Israel will never Change

[Hollie]

But, you deny the right of the native Christians and Muslims to defend themselves from the Zionist Jew invasion. You believe that the Muslims and Christians should not have resisted the Jewish invasion and eventual colonization and takeover of Palestine. That's what is hypocritical.

Your Jew Invasion™ nonsense is so silly. It's clear that you will lie and sputter the most nonsensical claims / slogans to promote your insensate Jooooooo hatreds but you make yourself quite the frantic, hair-on-fire screamer in doing so.

 

[teddyearp]

I GAVE WEST WALL THE SITES YOU SHOULD GO TO

WHERE?????? YOU ONLY GAVE HIM SEARCH TERMS. SORT OF.

 

[teddyearp]

Steve, you are a liar and you know it. Everything said about you here is true. You have started a thread that is full of half truths without a link to back it up, then when called on your tactics you start with persona; attacks. I am surprised this thread has even survived this long.

You are talking about this aren't you:

‘Serious concerns arose regarding excessive use of force, particularly in relation to incidents where Palestinian children were shot dead by Israeli security forces after carrying out or being suspected of carrying out stabbing attacks,’ UNICEF said in a report.

That number is 25, not 27. They were shot dead while carrying out stabbing attacks not murdered. How can you or the rest of the pro palestinian crew ever hope to have any credibility when all you do is post with half-truths and lies? How can you expect anyone to take a two state solution seriously like this?

Simple. You can't.

Oh yeah, link: 25 Palestinian children killed in 3 months - New Age

 

[Boston1]

The entire Arab Muslim colonial narrative depends on half truths and outright lies.

So why is anyone surprised that once again one of our local terrorist supporters is spewing half truths and lies ?

 

[westwall]

But, you deny the right of the native Christians and Muslims to defend themselves from the Zionist Jew invasion. You believe that the Muslims and Christians should not have resisted the Jewish invasion and eventual colonization and takeover of Palestine. That's what is hypocritical.

Christians and Jews seem to be able to work together. It's the Muslims that have so far shown little interest in doing so. I have found that when three people get together, and two of them can work together, as the Jews and Christians have, then it is the "other guy" who is the trouble maker.

 

[Shusha]

But, you deny the right of the native Christians and Muslims to defend themselves from the Zionist Jew invasion. You believe that the Muslims and Christians should not have resisted the Jewish invasion and eventual colonization and takeover of Palestine. That's what is hypocritical.

Personal, individual self-defense is different than collective self-defense, so this is off-topic. Start a new one if you want, though.

 

[Phoenall]

But, you deny the right of the native Christians and Muslims to defend themselves from the Zionist Jew invasion. You believe that the Muslims and Christians should not have resisted the Jewish invasion and eventual colonization and takeover of Palestine. That's what is hypocritical.

Firing illegal weapons across borders is not defence.............it is a war crime and an act of war.

 

[theliq]

Well considering Jews murdered the main man who with Mr Peres,could have brought Peace,I suppose at this juncture we will not know,you saw to that..I didn't you...Mr Rabin,Military Leader,Minister and Prime Minister saw the reality..........but as a nation you have regressed back to the Dark Ages,but you go on with your negative stance......but keep quite in future with all the DEATHS because that's what you want and desire

What nation are you lecturing me about? Given I am not an Israeli.

By your prose you are pro-Israeli....therefore Guilty by Association.....you can't have it both ways.....what you think and support is up to you....but don't come back to me trying to disassociate yourself from what you believe in(that is Moral Cowardise) I respect people who stick to their beliefs even if I don't agree with them..but can't abide Flip-Flop individuals....................you are either In or Out...........I thought more of you than that Mindful,and I think you thought you were being smart with your response....trouble is it made you look shallow......Now get back to what you really believe in,I much prefer you when you are honest but you can try to tone down the Abuse a little..steven

Didn't understand one word of that whatever it was supposed to be. Abuse, did you say?

There is NO BIGGER FOOL than a Zionist Fool...............even when you are polite to them they have a MIND OF A CRACKHEAD.and comprehend nothing....I have noted that a lot of Posters have a very poor level of comprehension and understanding of the written word..Hey,Ho but there you go

Mindful =..DUH......I didn't understand one word of that...DUH

No, the bigger fools are the morons such a yourself who spew unsubstantiated propaganda and somehow think it meaningful. Israel is far from perfect, but given the stellar record of the Islamic countries around it, it is THE shining beacon of reason in the region. Murderers who happen to be in the IDF are PROSECUTED for their crime you blithering jackass.

Those who commit mass murder in those wonderful paradises around them are instead lauded for their murders.

You are one of the most truly fucked up morons on this particular planet.

So I assume you are talking about the Zionist/Israeli killings of Palestinians since 1946....equals 150,000 Palestinian Deaths,Israel a SHINING BEACON,you have to be kidding.........this is not Propaganda it is Fact........you reckon all these IDF and Settler Murderers are prosecuted.......now we know you and you Zionist Possee are a complete joke,anyhow stick to the rules of USMB ...we are talking about Israel NOT other surrounding despots.This is a Pal/Israeli forum..........you should start a threat in the Middle East section........

 

[theliq]

... Israel Will Never Change which is what CAZIES like you want.....Have a Happy Murderous Life Then.....said without predudice

Do you believe in the concept of self-defense? On a personal level, do you believe that you have the right to try to stop someone if they attack you with a knife? Do you believe you have the right to use force to do so? Do you believe you even have the right to use lethal force to do so?

See, I believe in the concept of self-defense. I believe in the concept of using force to prevent an attack against you . I even go so far as to teach self-defense to young women. I teach them how to protect themselves against attacks. Not only do I see nothing wrong with it -- I actively promote it.

You think this makes me a murderer? Or crazy?

I know what article you got your OP from. I read it. The Palestinian children in question were all - each and every one - individuals who were active lethal threats using deadly weapons in order to attempt to kill someone. So, yes, I believe, that there was every right using the concept of self-defense for those individuals to be stopped, using lethal force if necessary.

Here's the thing: I think you do too. I think if I asked you if your daughter was being attacked with a knife -- do you have the right to try to prevent her death or injury? Of course, you would say you do. Would you call yourself a murderer is you did? Of course, you would not.

So where does that leave your OP? Since the article you appeared to be quoting from was very clear that the deaths of the individuals in question was caused by THEIR OWN use of lethal force -- you can not claim ignorance or useful idiot status.

You were deliberately using lies in order to demonize Israel. You were deliberately withholding information in order to demonize Israel. And you are deliberately attacking people you perceive to be Jews, including myself, and shifting blame from the actual events broadly onto all Jews by calling me a murderer.

No it was TRUTH and FACT actually...a concept that is NOT in the Zionist Mantra obviously.........I believe in self defence but you have to admit most of the Palestinian deaths are and never have been self defence as is clearly show in the behaviour of the SNIPER.....and he would only be the tip of the ICE BERG,when reading some of your possee's comments,I believe this mentality is widespread with some.

I will ask you and others a question....Do you want the situation in Israel to CONTINUE,if so...Why..............If not,what do you propose...Thanks for your post steven. One of the few who wants a Peaceful solution for both sides

You Lie when you say every Palestinian child is a lethal weapon....I remind you of the incident when a Palestinian boy was BURN'T ALIVE by 3 Jews...were their homes BULLDOZED NO......were they IMPRISIONED..? I don't think they were.

Why is it that you think that it's only your Burden that is the Heavyist

 

[theliq]

Steve, you are a liar and you know it. Everything said about you here is true. You have started a thread that is full of half truths without a link to back it up, then when called on your tactics you start with persona; attacks. I am surprised this thread has even survived this long.

You are talking about this aren't you:

‘Serious concerns arose regarding excessive use of force, particularly in relation to incidents where Palestinian children were shot dead by Israeli security forces after carrying out or being suspected of carrying out stabbing attacks,’ UNICEF said in a report.

That number is 25, not 27. They were shot dead while carrying out stabbing attacks not murdered. How can you or the rest of the pro palestinian crew ever hope to have any credibility when all you do is post with half-truths and lies? How can you expect anyone to take a two state solution seriously like this?

Simple. You can't.

Oh yeah, link: 25 Palestinian children killed in 3 months - New Age

Nonsense Teddy,Don't you think it odd that I got Screwed by the Zionistas on here but knew the truth about the statement that the UNICEF put out ..24 hours before the lemmings...Yep as usual they shot their collective mouths off.....Theliq the LIAR,ANTI-SEMITE,ISLAMO (which of course I am none of these) etc,.but as per normal I made them look like Idiots,yet some still think it's not true.......Teddy what can you do with people like that ????????steve but thanks for another link,which Westwall has found difficulty finding himself

 

[theliq]

But, you deny the right of the native Christians and Muslims to defend themselves from the Zionist Jew invasion. You believe that the Muslims and Christians should not have resisted the Jewish invasion and eventual colonization and takeover of Palestine. That's what is hypocritical.

Christians and Jews seem to be able to work together. It's the Muslims that have so far shown little interest in doing so. I have found that when three people get together, and two of them can work together, as the Jews and Christians have, then it is the "other guy" who is the trouble maker.

Your poor standard of education throughout history is so limited........In Moorish Spain both Arabs and Jews joined together to repel the Christians......also which Religion has Slaughtered MORE Jews than anyone else...you got it CHRISTIANS......instead of your inane knee jerk reactions,why don't you analyse the real facts,and show a modicum of reality in your posts.steven

 

[Indeependent]

But, you deny the right of the native Christians and Muslims to defend themselves from the Zionist Jew invasion. You believe that the Muslims and Christians should not have resisted the Jewish invasion and eventual colonization and takeover of Palestine. That's what is hypocritical.

Christians and Jews seem to be able to work together. It's the Muslims that have so far shown little interest in doing so. I have found that when three people get together, and two of them can work together, as the Jews and Christians have, then it is the "other guy" who is the trouble maker.

Your poor standard of education throughout history is so limited........In Moorish Spain both Arabs and Jews joined together to repel the Christians......also which Religion has Slaughtered MORE Jews than anyone else...you got it CHRISTIANS......instead of your inane knee jerk reactions,why don't you analyse the real facts,and show a modicum of reality in your posts.steven

Would you mind very much inserting a space after your commas?
While I'm at it, use 3 periods to emphasize a point rather than 8.

 

[theliq]

But, you deny the right of the native Christians and Muslims to defend themselves from the Zionist Jew invasion. You believe that the Muslims and Christians should not have resisted the Jewish invasion and eventual colonization and takeover of Palestine. That's what is hypocritical.

Christians and Jews seem to be able to work together. It's the Muslims that have so far shown little interest in doing so. I have found that when three people get together, and two of them can work together, as the Jews and Christians have, then it is the "other guy" who is the trouble maker.

Your poor standard of education throughout history is so limited........In Moorish Spain both Arabs and Jews joined together to repel the Christians......also which Religion has Slaughtered MORE Jews than anyone else...you got it CHRISTIANS......instead of your inane knee jerk reactions,why don't you analyse the real facts,and show a modicum of reality in your posts.steven

Would you mind very much inserting a space after your commas?
While I'm at it, use 3 periods to emphasize a point rather than 8.

Thank you for that Indie,SPACE...see, got it one go. steve

 

[westwall]

But, you deny the right of the native Christians and Muslims to defend themselves from the Zionist Jew invasion. You believe that the Muslims and Christians should not have resisted the Jewish invasion and eventual colonization and takeover of Palestine. That's what is hypocritical.

Christians and Jews seem to be able to work together. It's the Muslims that have so far shown little interest in doing so. I have found that when three people get together, and two of them can work together, as the Jews and Christians have, then it is the "other guy" who is the trouble maker.

Your poor standard of education throughout history is so limited........In Moorish Spain both Arabs and Jews joined together to repel the Christians......also which Religion has Slaughtered MORE Jews than anyone else...you got it CHRISTIANS......instead of your inane knee jerk reactions,why don't you analyse the real facts,and show a modicum of reality in your posts.steven

Yeah, imagine that 700 years ago the alliances were different. Let me know when you get up to the modern era clown boy.

 

[theliq]

But, you deny the right of the native Christians and Muslims to defend themselves from the Zionist Jew invasion. You believe that the Muslims and Christians should not have resisted the Jewish invasion and eventual colonization and takeover of Palestine. That's what is hypocritical.

Christians and Jews seem to be able to work together. It's the Muslims that have so far shown little interest in doing so. I have found that when three people get together, and two of them can work together, as the Jews and Christians have, then it is the "other guy" who is the trouble maker.

Your poor standard of education throughout history is so limited........In Moorish Spain both Arabs and Jews joined together to repel the Christians......also which Religion has Slaughtered MORE Jews than anyone else...you got it CHRISTIANS......instead of your inane knee jerk reactions,why don't you analyse the real facts,and show a modicum of reality in your posts.steven

Yeah, imagine that 700 years ago the alliances were different. Let me know when you get up to the modern era clown boy.

You only answered part of the question,as usual.....as for clown boy...well I was Right all along.....you as a Mod should be reported,call me a Liar ect,. shows your ingnorant bias on this subject....but you have no answers to the current situation in this Israeli/Palestinian schism......by the way you have a short memory remember the Nazis,Russians etc., thought not..but keep trying,you are on a hiding to nothing on this thread.

 

[westwall]

But, you deny the right of the native Christians and Muslims to defend themselves from the Zionist Jew invasion. You believe that the Muslims and Christians should not have resisted the Jewish invasion and eventual colonization and takeover of Palestine. That's what is hypocritical.

Christians and Jews seem to be able to work together. It's the Muslims that have so far shown little interest in doing so. I have found that when three people get together, and two of them can work together, as the Jews and Christians have, then it is the "other guy" who is the trouble maker.

Your poor standard of education throughout history is so limited........In Moorish Spain both Arabs and Jews joined together to repel the Christians......also which Religion has Slaughtered MORE Jews than anyone else...you got it CHRISTIANS......instead of your inane knee jerk reactions,why don't you analyse the real facts,and show a modicum of reality in your posts.steven

Yeah, imagine that 700 years ago the alliances were different. Let me know when you get up to the modern era clown boy.

You only answered part of the question,as usual.....as for clown boy...well I was Right all along.....you as a Mod should be reported,call me a Liar ect,. shows your ingnorant bias on this subject....but you have no answers to the current situation in this Israeli/Palestinian schism......by the way you have a short memory remember the Nazis,Russians etc., thought not..but keep trying,you are on a hiding to nothing on this thread.

NO ONE has answers for the current situation. The Muslims demand the destruction of Israel. That doesn't leave much room for discussion now does it. As for the rest of your post, I answered that which demanded an answer. The rest was crap.

 

[Roudy]

Steve, you are a liar and you know it. Everything said about you here is true. You have started a thread that is full of half truths without a link to back it up, then when called on your tactics you start with persona; attacks. I am surprised this thread has even survived this long.

You are talking about this aren't you:

‘Serious concerns arose regarding excessive use of force, particularly in relation to incidents where Palestinian children were shot dead by Israeli security forces after carrying out or being suspected of carrying out stabbing attacks,’ UNICEF said in a report.

That number is 25, not 27. They were shot dead while carrying out stabbing attacks not murdered. How can you or the rest of the pro palestinian crew ever hope to have any credibility when all you do is post with half-truths and lies? How can you expect anyone to take a two state solution seriously like this?

Simple. You can't.

Oh yeah, link: 25 Palestinian children killed in 3 months - New Age

Have you guys ever considered that he might not be literate enough to know how to post a link? Let's not give the disadvantaged a hard time. It isn't his fault.

 

[Roudy]

But, you deny the right of the native Christians and Muslims to defend themselves from the Zionist Jew invasion. You believe that the Muslims and Christians should not have resisted the Jewish invasion and eventual colonization and takeover of Palestine. That's what is hypocritical.

Christians and Jews seem to be able to work together. It's the Muslims that have so far shown little interest in doing so. I have found that when three people get together, and two of them can work together, as the Jews and Christians have, then it is the "other guy" who is the trouble maker.

Your poor standard of education throughout history is so limited........In Moorish Spain both Arabs and Jews joined together to repel the Christians......also which Religion has Slaughtered MORE Jews than anyone else...you got it CHRISTIANS......instead of your inane knee jerk reactions,why don't you analyse the real facts,and show a modicum of reality in your posts.steven

Oh hellooooo, why are you so ignorant of history? It was the Arab Muslims who invaded Christian lands in Spain and then turned it into moorish Arab lands. The Christians then invaded and regained those lands. Yes, the Crusades and Inquisitions were a shameful barbaric time in Christian history. Non of which would have happened had Muslims not invaded Christian lands.

 

[theliq]

But, you deny the right of the native Christians and Muslims to defend themselves from the Zionist Jew invasion. You believe that the Muslims and Christians should not have resisted the Jewish invasion and eventual colonization and takeover of Palestine. That's what is hypocritical.

Christians and Jews seem to be able to work together. It's the Muslims that have so far shown little interest in doing so. I have found that when three people get together, and two of them can work together, as the Jews and Christians have, then it is the "other guy" who is the trouble maker.

Your poor standard of education throughout history is so limited........In Moorish Spain both Arabs and Jews joined together to repel the Christians......also which Religion has Slaughtered MORE Jews than anyone else...you got it CHRISTIANS......instead of your inane knee jerk reactions,why don't you analyse the real facts,and show a modicum of reality in your posts.steven

Yeah, imagine that 700 years ago the alliances were different. Let me know when you get up to the modern era clown boy.

You only answered part of the question,as usual.....as for clown boy...well I was Right all along.....you as a Mod should be reported,call me a Liar ect,. shows your ingnorant bias on this subject....but you have no answers to the current situation in this Israeli/Palestinian schism......by the way you have a short memory remember the Nazis,Russians etc., thought not..but keep trying,you are on a hiding to nothing on this thread.

NO ONE has answers for the current situation. The Muslims demand the destruction of Israel. That doesn't leave much room for discussion now does it. As for the rest of your post, I answered that which demanded an answer. The rest was crap.

Most Palestinians do not........but I agree it is a very difficult situation today.............(sorry Indie) with the current attitude of the Hamas and Right Wing Israelis so in that regard I agree with you.(this is my opinion,Not Crap)steve

 

[theliq]

But, you deny the right of the native Christians and Muslims to defend themselves from the Zionist Jew invasion. You believe that the Muslims and Christians should not have resisted the Jewish invasion and eventual colonization and takeover of Palestine. That's what is hypocritical.

Christians and Jews seem to be able to work together. It's the Muslims that have so far shown little interest in doing so. I have found that when three people get together, and two of them can work together, as the Jews and Christians have, then it is the "other guy" who is the trouble maker.

Your poor standard of education throughout history is so limited........In Moorish Spain both Arabs and Jews joined together to repel the Christians......also which Religion has Slaughtered MORE Jews than anyone else...you got it CHRISTIANS......instead of your inane knee jerk reactions,why don't you analyse the real facts,and show a modicum of reality in your posts.steven

Oh hellooooo, why are you so ignorant of history? It was the Arab Muslims who invaded Christian lands in Spain and then turned it into moorish Arab lands. The Christians then invaded and regained those lands. Yes, the Crusades and Inquisitions were a shameful barbaric time in Christian history. Non of which would have happened had Muslims not invaded Christian lands.

And as you forgot to mention,Roudy ..the inquisitions were the "final solution" to rid both Jews and Moors from this area moreover prior to the Moors/Berbers (who gave Jews religious freedom etc,the Christians never gave the Jews freedoms)that is why the Jews and Moors battled together to beat off the Christian Hordes.