teddyearp
Gold Member
Welcome to Tinmore's pretzel.Nobody has the right to violate the rights of others.
Then why did you imply, as you did with your question, that certain people have no inherent, universal human rights?
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Welcome to Tinmore's pretzel.Nobody has the right to violate the rights of others.
Then why did you imply, as you did with your question, that certain people have no inherent, universal human rights?
I understand it very well. Too bad I understand it well enough to catch you in your own lies and half truths.Do you actually understand written English? You don't make any sense.
Do colonialists have rights?
Link?
Wait, what?! Are you saying there are groups of peoples who do NOT have inherent human rights? Do tell? Which peoples? Which rights?
Colonial powers deny others inherent human rights, pretty straight forward stuff really.
That is not what Tinmore said, though. He asked if colonialists HAVE rights. Do they have inherent human rights?
Do colonialists have rights?
Link?
Wait, what?! Are you saying there are groups of peoples who do NOT have inherent human rights? Do tell? Which peoples? Which rights?
Colonial powers deny others inherent human rights, pretty straight forward stuff really.
That is not what Tinmore said, though. He asked if colonialists HAVE rights. Do they have inherent human rights?
In other words do colonialists actively engaged in depriving others of their inherent human rights have inherent human rights.
And you need help with that.
Do colonialists have rights?
Link?
Wait, what?! Are you saying there are groups of peoples who do NOT have inherent human rights? Do tell? Which peoples? Which rights?
Colonial powers deny others inherent human rights, pretty straight forward stuff really.
That is not what Tinmore said, though. He asked if colonialists HAVE rights. Do they have inherent human rights?
In other words do colonialists actively engaged in depriving others of their inherent human rights have inherent human rights.
And you need help with that.
I think it is VERY dangerous territory to claim that some people have no inherent human rights.
Wait, what?! Are you saying there are groups of peoples who do NOT have inherent human rights? Do tell? Which peoples? Which rights?
Colonial powers deny others inherent human rights, pretty straight forward stuff really.
That is not what Tinmore said, though. He asked if colonialists HAVE rights. Do they have inherent human rights?
In other words do colonialists actively engaged in depriving others of their inherent human rights have inherent human rights.
And you need help with that.
I think it is VERY dangerous territory to claim that some people have no inherent human rights.
Which is what colonialism does.
Colonial powers deny others inherent human rights, pretty straight forward stuff really.
That is not what Tinmore said, though. He asked if colonialists HAVE rights. Do they have inherent human rights?
In other words do colonialists actively engaged in depriving others of their inherent human rights have inherent human rights.
And you need help with that.
I think it is VERY dangerous territory to claim that some people have no inherent human rights.
Which is what colonialism does.
But again, that is not what you wrote. You wrote: ... do colonialists ... have inherent human rights?
Of course they do. We all do. That is why they are inherent.
Let's talk about these inherent human rights, then. What rights are we talking about?
Do the Arab Palestinians have a right to self-determination in their homeland?
Do the Jewish people have a right to self-determination in their homeland?
Does either party have an exclusive right to the homeland without the presence of the other group (an ethnically homogeneous territory)?
My answers: yes, yes, no, but...there has to be enough homogeneity to not threaten self-determination.
Let's talk about these inherent human rights, then. What rights are we talking about?
Do the Arab Palestinians have a right to self-determination in their homeland?
Do the Jewish people have a right to self-determination in their homeland?
Does either party have an exclusive right to the homeland without the presence of the other group (an ethnically homogeneous territory)?
My answers: yes, yes, no, but...there has to be enough homogeneity to not threaten self-determination.
Who's doing the colonizing?
Let's talk about these inherent human rights, then. What rights are we talking about?
Do the Arab Palestinians have a right to self-determination in their homeland?
Do the Jewish people have a right to self-determination in their homeland?
Does either party have an exclusive right to the homeland without the presence of the other group (an ethnically homogeneous territory)?
My answers: yes, yes, no, but...there has to be enough homogeneity to not threaten self-determination.
Who's doing the colonizing?
No one
Let's talk about these inherent human rights, then. What rights are we talking about?
Do the Arab Palestinians have a right to self-determination in their homeland?
Do the Jewish people have a right to self-determination in their homeland?
Does either party have an exclusive right to the homeland without the presence of the other group (an ethnically homogeneous territory)?
My answers: yes, yes, no, but...there has to be enough homogeneity to not threaten self-determination.
Who's doing the colonizing?
No one
Who is engaged in seeking to deprive the so called rights of the other?
Both Britain and the Zionists called it colonialism during the Mandate period.Let's talk about these inherent human rights, then. What rights are we talking about?
Do the Arab Palestinians have a right to self-determination in their homeland?
Do the Jewish people have a right to self-determination in their homeland?
Does either party have an exclusive right to the homeland without the presence of the other group (an ethnically homogeneous territory)?
My answers: yes, yes, no, but...there has to be enough homogeneity to not threaten self-determination.
Who's doing the colonizing?
No one
Both Britain and the Zionists called it colonialism during the Mandate period.
Both Britain and the Zionists called it colonialism during the Mandate period.Let's talk about these inherent human rights, then. What rights are we talking about?
Do the Arab Palestinians have a right to self-determination in their homeland?
Do the Jewish people have a right to self-determination in their homeland?
Does either party have an exclusive right to the homeland without the presence of the other group (an ethnically homogeneous territory)?
My answers: yes, yes, no, but...there has to be enough homogeneity to not threaten self-determination.
Who's doing the colonizing?
No one
Now you want to refute the horse's mouth.
Not in use?Both Britain and the Zionists called it colonialism during the Mandate period.
Sure it was the term in general use at the time to mean immigration, especially when referring to land which was not in use.
It does not have the same meaning as you mean it here -- where a colonial power sends its own citizens to a foreign territory....
Let's talk about these inherent human rights, then. What rights are we talking about?
Do the Arab Palestinians have a right to self-determination in their homeland?
Do the Jewish people have a right to self-determination in their homeland?
Does either party have an exclusive right to the homeland without the presence of the other group (an ethnically homogeneous territory)?
My answers: yes, yes, no, but...there has to be enough homogeneity to not threaten self-determination.
Who's doing the colonizing?
No one
Who is engaged in seeking to deprive the so called rights of the other?
The only people even suggesting it on this thread are you and Tinmore.
Both Britain and the Zionists called it colonialism during the Mandate period.
Sure it was the term in general use at the time to mean immigration, especially when referring to land which was not in use.
It does not have the same meaning as you mean it here -- where a colonial power sends its own citizens to a foreign territory.
You can't colonize your own homeland.
Not in use?Both Britain and the Zionists called it colonialism during the Mandate period.
Sure it was the term in general use at the time to mean immigration, especially when referring to land which was not in use.
It does not have the same meaning as you mean it here -- where a colonial power sends its own citizens to a foreign territory....
Acre Subdistrict
See also: Acre Subdistrict
- al-Bassa - military assault, expulsion by Yishuv forces, 14 May 1948[5]
- al-Birwa - military assault, 11 June 1948[5] or mid-July
- al-Damun - military assault, 15–16 July 1948.[5]
- al-Ghabisiyya[5]
- al-Kabri – military assault, fear, 21 May 1948.[5]
- al-Manshiyya – military assault, 14 May 1948[5]
- al-Mansura – expulsion by Yishuv forces, early November 1948[5]
- al-Nabi Rubin
- al-Nahr - military assault, 21 May 1948.[5]
- al-Ruways
- al-Sumayriyya military assault, 14 May 1948[5]
- al-Tall (Tell) - military assault, 21 May 1948[5]
- Amqa - military assault, 10–11 July 1948.[5]
- Arab al-Samniyya
Beersheba Subdistrict
- Az-Zeeb (al-Zib) - military assault, 14 May 1948[5]
- Dayr al-Qassi
- Iqrit - expulsion by Yishuv forces, early November 1948.[5]
- Kafr 'Inan – expulsion by Yishuv forces, February 1949[5]
- Khirbat Iribbin
- Khirbat Jiddin
- Kuwaykat – military assault, 10 July 1948.[5]
- Mi'ar
- Sha'ab[6]
- Suhmata - military assault, 30 October 1948[5]
- Suruh - expulsion by Yishuv forces, early November 1948[5]
- Tarbikha, expulsion by Yishuv forces, early November 1948[5]
- Umm al-Faraj - military assault, 21 May 1948[5]
See also: Beersheba Subdistrict
Beisan Subdistrict
- al-Imara
- al-Jammama
- al-Khalasa
- Beersheba, military assault, expulsions, 20 October 1948
- Umm al-Rashrash
See also: Beisan Subdistrict
- al-Ashrafiyya
- Al-Bira
- al-Fatur
- al-Ghazzawiyya
- al-Hamidiyya
- Al-Hamra
- al-Khunayzir
- al-Murassas
- al-Sakhina
- al-Samiriyya
- Khirbat Al-Taqa
- Khirbat Umm Sabuna
- Khirbat Zawiya
- Masil al-Jizl
- Qumya
- Sirin - Arab evacuation order, April–May 1948.[7]
- Tall al-Shawk
- Umm 'Ajra
- Yubla
- Zab'a
Gaza Subdistrict
The well at al-Khalasa, 1900–26
Israeli troops in Beersheba, 20 October 1948
See also: Gaza Subdistrict
- al-Batani al-Gharbi
- al-Batani al-Sharqi
- al-Faluja
- al-Jaladiyya
- al-Jiyya
- al-Jura
- al-Khisas
- al-Masmiyya al-Kabira
- al-Masmiyya al-Saghira
- al-Muharraqa
- al-Sawafir al-Gharbiyya
- al-Sawafir al-Shamaliyya
- al-Sawafir al-Sharqiyya
- Arab Suqrir
- Isdud
- al-Majdal
- Barbara
- Barqa
- Bayt 'Affa
- Bayt Daras
- Bayt Jirja
- Bayt Tima
- Bil'in
- Burayr
- Dayr Sunayd
- Dimra
- Hamama
- Hatta
- Hiribya
- Huj
- Hulayqat
- Ibdis
- Iraq al-Manshiyya
- Iraq Suwaydan
- Julis
- Jusayr
- Karatiyya
- Kawfakha
- Kawkaba
- Najd
- Ni'ilya
- Qastina
- Simsim
- Summil
- Tall al-Turmus
- Yasur
Haifa Subdistrict
Al-Faluja, 28 February 1949
See also: Haifa Subdistrict
- Abu Shusha
- Abu Zurayq
- al-Butaymat
- al-Ghubayya al-Fawqa
- al-Ghubayya al-Tahta
- Al-Jalama
- al-Kafrayn
- al-Mansi
- Al-Mazar
- al-Rihaniyya
- al-Sarafand
- al-Sindiyana
- al-Tira
- Arab al-Fuqara
- Arab al-Nufay'at
- Arab Zahrat al-Dumayri
- Atlit
- Ayn Ghazal
- Balad al-Sheikh
- Barrat Qisarya
- Burayka
- Qisarya
- Daliyat al-Rawha'
- Ayn Hawd
- Hawsha
- Ijzim
- Jaba'
- Kabara
- Kafr Lam
- Khirbat Al-Burj
- Khirbat Al-Dumun
- Khirbat Al-Kasayir
- Khirbat Al-Manara
- Khirbat Al-Mansura
- Khirbat al-Sarkas
- Khirbat al-Sawamir
Hebron Subdistrict
- Khirbat al-Shuna
- Khirbat Lid
- Khirbat Qumbaza
- Khirbat Sa'sa'
- Khubbayza
- Naghnaghiya
- Qamun
- Qannir
- Qira
- Sabbarin
- Tantura
- Tiberias
- Umm ash Shauf
- Umm az-Zinat
- Wa'arat al-Sarris
- Wadi Ara
- Yajur
See also: Hebron Subdistrict
- 'Ajjur
- al-Dawayima - massacre[8]
- al-Qubayba
- az-Zakariyya
- Barqusya
- Bayt Jibrin
Jaffa Subdistrict
Bayt Jibrin, 2005
See also: Jaffa Subdistrict
- Abu Kishk
- al-'Abbasiyya
- al-Haram
- al-Jammasin al-Gharbi
- al-Jammasin al-Sharqi
- al-Khayriyya
- al-Mas'udiyya
- al-Mirr
- al-Muwaylih
- al-Safiriyya
- al-Sawalima
- al-Shaykh Muwannis
- Bayt Dajan
- Biyar 'Adas
- Fajja
- Ijlil al-Qibliyya
Jenin Subdistrict
Yazur, 2008
See also: Jenin Subdistrict
Jerusalem Subdistrict
Zir'in, 1918
See also: Jerusalem Subdistrict
- al-Burayj
- al-Jura
- al-Qabu
- al-Walaja
- Allar
- al-Qastal
- Aqqur
- Artuf
- Ayn Karim
- Bayt 'Itab
- Bayt Mahsir
- Bayt Naqquba
- Bayt Thul
- Bayt Umm al-Mays
- Dayr 'Amr
- Dayr Aban
- Dayr al-Hawa
- Dayr al-Shaykh
- Dayr Rafat
- Deir Yassin
- Ishwa
- Islin
- Jarash
- Kasla
- Khirbat al-'Umur
- Khirbat Al-Lawz
- Khirbat al-Tannur
- Khirbat Ism Allah
Nazareth Subdistrict
Postcard from Ayn Karim (Ein Karem)
Deir Yassin, now part of the Kfar Shaul Mental Health Center
See also: Nazareth Subdistrict
Ramle Subdistrict
See also: Ramle Subdistrict
- Abu al-Fadl
- Abu Shusha
- Ajanjul
- al-Barriyya
- al-Burj
- al-Haditha
- al-Khayma
- al-Kunayyisa
- al-Maghar
- al-Mansura
- al-Mukhayzin
- al-Muzayri'a
- al-Na'ani
- al-Qubab
- al-Qubayba
- al-Tina
- al-Tira
- Aqir
- Barfiliya
- Bashshit
- Bayt Jiz
- Bayt Nabala
- Bayt Shanna
- Bayt Susin
- Bir Ma'in
- Bir Salim
- Daniyal
- Dayr Abu Salama
- Dayr Ayyub
- Dayr Muhaysin
- Dayr Tarif
- Idnibba
- Innaba
- Jilya
- Jimzu
- Kharruba
- Khirbat al-Buwayra
- Khirbat al-Duhayriyya
- Khirbat Bayt Far
- Khirbat Zakariyya
Safad Subdistrict
- Khulda
- Latrun
- Majdal Yaba
- Nabi Rubin
- Qatra
- Qazaza
- Qula
- Sajad
- Salbit
- Sarafand al-Amar
- Sarafand al-Kharab
- Saydun
- Shahma
- Shilta
- Umm Kalkha
- Wadi Hunayn
- Yibna
- Zarnuqa
See also: Safad Subdistrict
- 'Akbara
- Abil al-Qamh
- al-'Abisiyya
- al-'Ulmaniyya
- al-'Urayfiyya
- al-Butayha
- al-Buwayziyya
- al-Dawwara
- al-Dirbashiyya
- al-Dirdara
- al-Hamra'
- al-Husayniyya
- al-Ja'una
- al-Khalisa
- al-Khisas
- Al-Malkiyya
- al-Manshiyya
- al-Mansura
- al-Muftakhira
- al-Na'ima
- al-Nabi Yusha'
- al-Qudayriyya
- al-Ras al-Ahmar
- al-Salihiyya
- al-Sammu'i
- al-Sanbariyya
- al-Shawka al-Tahta
- al-Shuna
- al-Wayziyya
- al-Zahiriyya al-Tahta
- al-Zanghariyya
- al-Zuq al-Fawqani
- al-Zuq al-Tahtani
- Alma
- Ammuqa
- Arab al-Shamalina
- Arab al-Zubayd
- Baysamun
- Biriyya
- Dallata
- Dayshum
- Ein al-Zeitun
- Fara
- Farradiyya
- Fir'im
- Ghabbatiyya
- Ghuraba
- Harrawi
- Hunin
- Jahula
- Jubb Yusuf
- Kafr Bir'im
- Khan al-Duwayr
- Khirbat al-Muntar
- Khirbat Karraza
- Khiyam al-Walid
- Kirad al-Baqqara
- Kirad al-Ghannama
- Lazzaza
- Madahil
- Mallaha
- Mansurat al-Khayt
- Marus
- Meiron
- Mughr al-Khayt
- Qabba'a
- Qadas
- Qaddita
- Qaytiyya
- Sa'sa'
- Sabalan
- Safad
- Safsaf - massacre[9]
- Saliha - massacre[8]
- Taytaba
- Tulayl
- Yarda
- al-Zawiya
Tiberias Subdistrict
Ein al-Zeitun
Safad, 1908
See also: Tiberias Subdistrict
Tulkarm Subdistrict
See also: Tulkarm Subdistrict
OK, buddy, whatever you want tot believe.
Qaqun, 2008