Israel, the 51st State of the USA & then maybe not (a repeat thread)

[watchingfromafar]

Israel defeated an invasion from combined armies of The Arab States and it did so this time by a huge victory. It did this without ANY aid or assistance from America. In fact,

I am sure you tell yourself this every night before going to bed in the hope that you will not have nightmares.

But damn it, when you awake the truth stares you in the face as you shave in the morning.

Israel managed not to be defeated because of America’s support in cash$ and weapons.

I, among many others intend to turn this around. The blind fold is coming off, Israel’s hideous ways are being exposed.

Soon, very soon the USA will cut off all cash$ and weapon deliveries to the Zionists.

You, fncceo, should go to Israel and defend your kind or remain a coward hiding in the closet when things get a bit tuff.

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[watchingfromafar]

Link?

Since you asked, I checked. I was wrong and right at the same time.
Here are Israel's exports
The natural resources of Israel include potash, copper ore, natural gas, phosphate rock, magnesium bromide, clays and sand. Additionally, cut diamonds are one of the leading exports of the country,
And I found this---

FLOWERS FROM ISRAEL - ISRAEL FLOWER EXPORTERS
Gamla Flowers - Cut Flowers from israel - wide variety Of Fillers & Foliage
One of our main focus is providing flowers from israel to all markes globall
we provide Israel Flowers grown in Israel and shipped from Israel.
- flowers from israel (israel-flowers.net)

Cut diamonds seems to be a great money maker and military technology except they do not have an industrial complex to make complex components.
I should have checked before opening my big mouth
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[Rigby5]

Israel, the 51st State of the USA & then maybe not

For all practical purposes Israel is America’s 51st State. The US gives Israel 10’s of $billions of dollars each year and yet American Citizen’s did not vote for this.

What’s up?
I think it is time for a national vote on this.

Either we bring in Israel as our 51st State and they pay their fair share or we stop the $billions in handouts.

How do you vote-?

This report provides an overview of U.S. foreign assistance to Israel. It includes a review of past aid programs, data on annual assistance, and analysis of current issues. For general information on Israel, see CRS Report RL33476, Israel: Background and U.S. Relations, by Jim Zanotti. Israel is the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign assistance since World War II. To date, the United States has provided Israel $127.4 billion (current, or non-inflation-adjusted, dollars) in bilateral assistance. Almost all U.S. bilateral aid to Israel is in the form of military assistance, although in the past Israel also received significant economic assistance.

BTW We, as in American citizens owe Israel nothing, nada, zip so I as---

In Jerusalem Israeli’s spit on Christians and the US press never reports it.

What’s up------?

Israel's not the 51st State. They are just terror victims trying to defend themselves. That's why we support them. Well, we not being Democrats. Democrats consistently support evil. If you pick any given issue, Democrats will support the side evil is on

Israel is not the 51st state, that is because the are the greatest terrorists in the world and would be prosecuted for their constant war crimes if they were under US federal jurisdiction.
Remember that the only thread Israel has to legitimize its existence at all is the 1948 UN partition, and clearly Jerusalem then is NOT part of Israel.
No other state has ever been allowed to get away with such blatant murder and land theft as Israel is obviously guilty of.

 

[Rigby5]

Link?

Since you asked, I checked. I was wrong and right at the same time.
Here are Israel's exports
The natural resources of Israel include potash, copper ore, natural gas, phosphate rock, magnesium bromide, clays and sand. Additionally, cut diamonds are one of the leading exports of the country,
And I found this---

View attachment 497631

FLOWERS FROM ISRAEL - ISRAEL FLOWER EXPORTERS
Gamla Flowers - Cut Flowers from israel - wide variety Of Fillers & Foliage
One of our main focus is providing flowers from israel to all markes globall
we provide Israel Flowers grown in Israel and shipped from Israel.
- flowers from israel (israel-flowers.net)

Cut diamonds seems to be a great money maker and military technology except they do not have an industrial complex to make complex components.
I should have checked before opening my big mouth
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Go back in history before the Zionist invasion and takeover, and you see it is Arab Palestine that created the flower exportation business.
Goes back to the 1800's.
They can just ship them further and faster these days.

 

[Rigby5]

During the six day war, this is how the Israelis showed their gratitude to America

What gratitude? The USA had an arms embargo against Israel from 1948 until AFTER the Six Day War. The Six Day War was the THIRD time Israel defeated an invasion from combined armies of The Arab States and it did so this time by a huge victory. It did this without ANY aid or assistance from America. In fact, the US was openly antagonistic towards the Jewish State until it became obvious it wasn't just going to go away. America decided, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

Wrong.
Almost all the Israeli arms came from the US, and the US military help evade the embargo that was in name only.
For example, the US sent the Zionists a fleet of B-17 bombers, crated P-51 Mustangs, M-4 Sherman tanks regunned in Czechoslovakia, etc.
The US military even smuggled in the heavy water to create nuclear weapons.

The 1948 war was started by Zionists massacring Arab villages like Dier Yassin.
The Suez crisis of 1956 was the illegal Israeli invasion of the Sinai.
The 6 day war of 1967 was the illegal Israeli invasion of Jerusalem and the West Bank.

Israel started ever single war there was in the MIdeast in which it was involved.
No one ever attacked Israel first except Yom Kippur war of 1973, when Egypt won back the Sinai which Israel had stolen.

 

[Rigby5]

we elected leaders that decide who gets foreign aid and who doesn’t

As an American citizen at the age of 71, I did not vote for the following--
Arabs were not the “first” to engage in “terrorism”, The Zionists coined the phrase

November 6, 1944. Zionist terrorists of the Stern Gang assassinated the British Minister Resident in the Middle East, Lord Moyne, in Cairo.
July 22, 1946. Zionist terrorists blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem,.,.,killing or injuring more than 200 persons.
October 1, 1946. The British Embassy in Rome was badly damaged by bomb explosions, for which Irgun claimed responsibility.
September 3, 1947. A postal bomb addressed to the British War Office exploded in the post office sorting room in London, injuring 2 persons. It was attributed to Irgun or Stern Gangs. (The Sunday Times, Sept. 24, 1972, p.8)
December ll, 1947. Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.
December 19, 1947. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blowing up two houses in the ruins of which were found the bodies of 10 Arabs, including 5 children. Haganah admitted responsibility for the attack.
mber 13, 1947 -- February 10, 1948. Seven incidents of bomb-tossing at innocent Arab civilians in cafes and markets, killing 138 and wounding 271 others, During this period, there were 9 attacks on Arab buses. Zionists mined passenger trains on at least 4 occasions, killing 93 persons and wounding 161 others.
December 29, 1947. Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi.
June 1947. Letters sent to British Cabinet Ministers were found to contain bombs.
December ll, 1947. Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa ; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.
December 29, 1947. Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi.
January 4, 1948. Haganah terrorists wearing British Army uniforms penetrated into the center of Jaffa and blew up the Serai (the old Turkish Government House) killing more than 40 persons and wounding 98 others.
January 5, 1948. The Arab-owned Semiramis Hotel in Jerusalem was blown up, killing 20 persons.
January 16, 1948. Zionists blew up three Arab buildings. In the first, 8 children between the ages of 18 months and 12 years, died.
February 15, 1948. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blew up several houses, killing 11 Arabs, including 4 children.
March 3, 1948. Heavy damage was done to the Arab-owned Salam building in Haifa by Zionists who drove an army lorry ( truck) up to the building and escaped before the detonation of 400 Ib. of explosives; casualties numbered 11 Arabs and 3 Armenians killed and 23 injured.
March 22, 1948. A housing block in Iraq Street in Haifa was blown up killing 17 and injuring 100 others. Four members of the Stern Gang drove two truck-loads of explosives into the street and abandoned the vehicles before the explosion.
March 31, 1948. The Cairo-Haifa Express was mined, for the second time in a month, by an electronically-detonated land mine near Benyamina, killing 40 persons and wounding 60 others.
April 9, 1948. A combined force of Irgun Zvai Leumi and the Stern Gang, captured the Arab village of Deir Yassin and killed more than 200 unarmed civilians, including countless women and children. Older men and young women were paraded in chains in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem; 20 of the hostages were then in the quarry of Gevaat Shaul.
April 16, 1948. Zionists attacked the former British army camp at Tel Litvinsky, killing 90 Arabs there.
April 19, 1948. Fourteen Arabs were killed in a house in Tiberias, which was blown up by Zionist terrorists.
May 3, 1948. A book bomb addressed to a British Army officer, who had been stationed in Palestine exploded, killing his brother, Rex Farran.
May11, 1948. A letter bomb addressed to Sir Evelyn Barker, former Commanding Officer in Palestine, was detected in the nick of time by his wife.
April 25, 1948 -- May 13, 1948. Wholesale looting of Jaffa was carried out following armed attacks by Irgun and Haganah terrorists. They stripped and carried away everything they could, destroying what they could not take with them.

Israeli intelligence service, Mossad, has confirmed that the Israeli art students were, in fact, part of a major Israeli intelligence operation and that they were conducting surveillance of the activities of the 9-11 hijackers. They also worked with the Israeli Urban Moving System employees in New Jersey who were seen in at least two Jersey City locations -- Liberty State Park and The Doric apartment building -- celebrating the impact of the first plane into the World Trade Center.

The Israelis at Liberty State Park were dressed in Arab-style clothing when they were witnessed celebrating the first attack. The FBI later confiscated a videotape they filmed of the first attack.
http://tinyurl.com/8ss8r7r

I add this--
The USS Liberty incident was an attack on a United States Navy technical research ship, USS Liberty, by Israeli Air Force jet fighter aircraft and Israeli Navy motor torpedo boats, on 8 June 1967, during the Six-Day War. The combined air and sea attack killed 34 crew members (naval officers, seamen, two marines, and one civilian NSA employee), wounded 171 crew members, and severely damaged the ship. At the time, the ship was in international waters north of the Sinai Peninsula, about 25.5 nmi (29.3 mi; 47.2 km) northwest from the Egyptian city of Arish.
USS Liberty incident - Wikipedia

Google Irgun, Haganah and Stern gangs
Irgun - Wikipedia
Haganah - Wikipedia
Stern Gang | Zionist extremist organization | Britannica

BTW: The Haganah gang later became the Israeli Defense Force (IDF)
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actually the french did during the french revolution

but yes the Israelites fought for their independence from British rule. Lots of other nations have as well

and yea if you voted for a senator or congressman you voted for them to speak for you about foreign aid

Wrong.
The British NEVER ruled Palestine.
It was ruled by the Ottoman empire until they were defeated by the Arabs in WWI.
The Treaty of San Remo and Sevres gave the Arab Palestine independence, and the British only got the Mandate to protect them until they had a government that could be recognized.

But the Zionist did blow up the King David Hotel to murder the British peacekeepers, so that the Zionists would massacre Arab villages with impunity.
The Zionists also gunned down the UN Moderator, Folke Bernadotte, so the UN would not interfere in their plans for mass murder.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The Treaty of San Remo and Sevres gave the Arab Palestine independence

But enough about Jordan.

 

[Rigby5]

There are very good reasons why the United States supports Israel so vigorously.

The first is that America routinely takes sides with the underdog and that the Jews were the ultimate underdogs of the 20th century.

The second is that America was most affected emotionally amongst all the liberators of the Nazi concentration camps as WWII drew to a close.

The third is that the British had taken over Palestine from the Ottomans at the end of WWI under the League of Nations (United Nations) Mandate.

The fourth is that the British had promised the Jews of Palestine a homeland within their spiritual-ancestral homeland of Palestine when WWI ended.

The fifth is that the British reneged on their promise after hundreds of thousands of Jews had fled there before, during and after the butchery of WWII.

The sixth is that the Muslim-Arabs of the region were decidedly anti-Western and that Israel could be made to serve as an operating base in an emergency.

The seventh is that the Muslim-Arabs of the region have repeatedly promised to drive the Jews of Palestine-Israel into the Mediterranean Sea to drown them.

The eighth is that the Muslim-Arabs of the region control a great deal of fossil fuel and require a powerful regional superpower counter to keep them in line.

The ninth is that the Muslim-Arab nations of the region willingly jumped into the Soviet sphere in the 1950s and beyond and a beachhead was required.

The tenth is that the Jews of Israel do far more good with the land than the Muslim-Arabs of the region ever did or ever will do.

The eleventh is that the Jews of Israel have far more in common with The West than they do with Muslim-Arabs and the bonds of friendship are stronger.

The twelfth is that Americans will never again allow the Jews to be slaughtered the way that EuroTrash did in the mid-twentieth.

The thirteenth is that it pleases us to befriend and assist and stand alongside Israel.

The fourteenth is because the Muslim-Arab nations of the region have poured countless blood and treasure into wars with Israel and are now done with that.

The fifteenth is because Via Victus - Woe to the Vanquished - the Muzzies have lost and need to relocate to the East Bank of the Jordan.

There is no Arab Cavalry coming over the hill to rescue the so-called 'Palestinians' who have been rotting in refugee camps and towns since 1948.

Time to help the Israelis achieve their ultimate goal - the realization of the League of Nations Partition Plan for Palestine of 1922...

A Muslim-Arab "Palestine already exists... it's called "Jordan"... and the Muzzies in Gaza and what little remains of the West Bank need to be pushed across to the East Bank as a permanent relocation.

With both Gaza and the West Bank entirely in Israeli hands, Israel becomes vastly more defensible and there will be no further "internal" disturbances.

And, within a generation or two of any-such forced resettlement, and decades of relative peace and the opportunity to live and grow elsewhere beyond the disturbances and violence of the present day, so-called Palestinians will be absorbed into Jordanian national life and cease to be an existential threat.

Wrong mostly.

Jews have never been the underdog, but have consistently been arrogant and demanding, working for the aristocracy as Viziers, tax collectors, bureaucrats, and bankers.

The majority of the concentration camps were in the east, and the US had no exposure to them.
The work camps in the west the US did liberate, were actually run mostly by the inmates themselves, and and the appalling conditions were mostly caused by the US cutting off DDT and US bombing, and causing starvation and epidemics like typhus, dysentery, etc.

The British were never to have rule over Palestine, but instead were mandated to prepare the Arab for independence in repayment for their participation in the great Arab Revolt against the Ottoman Empire (Lawrence of Arabia).

The Jews of Palestine had been promised nothing because they did nothing.
The Jews of Europe were promised easy immigration to a homeland inside of an Arab, Molsem, independent Palestine.
In fact, before the Palestinians would agree to allowing Jewish immigration at all, they had to pledge to NOT want any Jewish sovereignty at all, ever.

Anyone claiming Jews were at risk under Moslem rule is obviously lying.
First of all Jews had almost always lived best under Moslem rule, the Jews were never attacked or harmed by Moslems.
It is the Christians of Spain and Germany who attacked them The Inquisition, the Crusades, the Holocaust, etc.
If Jews were afraid of Moslems, they would not have emigrated to Palestine in the first place.

Zionism is the most evil, illegal, and anti-Jewish movement the world has ever seen.
Judaism says we are supposed to be in atonement for the sins of arrogance and pride, so the Messiah comes.
Zionists are atheists, not Jews.

 

[Quasar44]

Israel is its own little nation
The size of NJ and better than most nations

 

[Rigby5]

The Treaty of San Remo and Sevres gave the Arab Palestine independence

But enough about Jordan.

Wrong.
TransJordan was split Palestine and Jordan to exclude any Jewish immigration at all into Jordan.
But Jewish immigration to Palestine was still to have quotas and remain under Moslem rule.

Read the 1922 Churchill Whitepaper that explained the law.

The Avalon Project : British White Paper of June 1922

[...
Unauthorized statements have been made to the effect that the purpose in view is to create a wholly Jewish Palestine. Phrases have been used such as that Palestine is to become "as Jewish as England is English." His Majesty's Government regard any such expectation as impracticable and have no such aim in view. Nor have they at any time contemplated, as appears to be feared by the Arab deegation, the disappearance or the subordination of the Arabic population, language, or culture in Palestine. They would draw attention to the fact that the terms of the Declaration referred to do not contemplate that Palestine as a whole should be converted into a Jewish National Home, but that such a Home should be founded `in Palestine.' In this connection it has been observed with satisfaction that at a meeting of the Zionist Congress, the supreme governing body of the Zionist Organization, held at Carlsbad in September, 1921, a resolution was passed expressing as the official statement of Zionist aims "the determination of the Jewish people to live with the Arab people on terms of unity and mutual respect, and together with them to make the common home into a flourishing community, the upbuilding of which may assure to each of its peoples an undisturbed national development."

It is also necessary to point out that the Zionist Commission in Palestine, now termed the Palestine Zionist Executive, has not desired to possess, and does not possess, any share in the general administration of the country. Nor does the special position assigned to the Zionist Organization in Article IV of the Draft Mandate for Palestine imply any such functions. That special position relates to the measures to be taken in Palestine affecting the Jewish population, and contemplates that the organization may assist in the general development of the country, but does not entitle it to share in any degree in its government.

Further, it is contemplated that the status of all citizens of Palestine in the eyes of the law shall be Palestinian, and it has never been intended that they, or any section of them, should possess any other juridical status. So far as the Jewish population of Palestine are concerned it appears that some among them are apprehensive that His Majesty's Government may depart from the policy embodied in the Declaration of 1917. It is necessary, therefore, once more to affirm that these fears are unfounded, and that that Declaration, re affirmed by the Conference of the Principle Allied Powers at San Remo and again in the Treaty of Sevres, is not susceptible of change.
...}

 

[Rigby5]

Israel is its own little nation
The size of NJ and better than most nations

Wrong.
Israel is an illegal nation of 6 million Jews ruling over 12 million Moslems, most of whom are not allowed to vote.
Only about 1 million Moslems are allowed to vote in Israel.
And Israel would not be doing well if not for $5 billion a year in US foreign aid.

 

[NightFox]

Israel, the 51st State of the USA & then maybe not

For all practical purposes Israel is America’s 51st State. The US gives Israel 10’s of $billions of dollars each year and yet American Citizen’s did not vote for this.

What’s up?
I think it is time for a national vote on this.

Either we bring in Israel as our 51st State and they pay their fair share or we stop the $billions in handouts.

How do you vote-?

This report provides an overview of U.S. foreign assistance to Israel. It includes a review of past aid programs, data on annual assistance, and analysis of current issues. For general information on Israel, see CRS Report RL33476, Israel: Background and U.S. Relations, by Jim Zanotti. Israel is the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign assistance since World War II. To date, the United States has provided Israel $127.4 billion (current, or non-inflation-adjusted, dollars) in bilateral assistance. Almost all U.S. bilateral aid to Israel is in the form of military assistance, although in the past Israel also received significant economic assistance.

BTW We, as in American citizens owe Israel nothing, nada, zip so I as---

In Jerusalem Israeli’s spit on Christians and the US press never reports it.

What’s up------?

Israel's not the 51st State. They are just terror victims trying to defend themselves. That's why we support them. Well, we not being Democrats. Democrats consistently support evil. If you pick any given issue, Democrats will support the side evil is on

Israel is not the 51st state, that is because the are the greatest terrorists in the world and would be prosecuted for their constant war crimes if they were under US federal jurisdiction.
Remember that the only thread Israel has to legitimize its existence at all is the 1948 UN partition, and clearly Jerusalem then is NOT part of Israel.
No other state has ever been allowed to get away with such blatant murder and land theft as Israel is obviously guilty of.

Really? The history of the institution of the State indicates that when it comes to "blatant murder and land theft" that the Israeli's are rank AMATEURS.

"The positive testimony of history is that the State invariably had its origin in conquest and confiscation. No primitive State known to history originated in any other manner." -- Albert J. Nock

 

[struth]

we elected leaders that decide who gets foreign aid and who doesn’t

As an American citizen at the age of 71, I did not vote for the following--
Arabs were not the “first” to engage in “terrorism”, The Zionists coined the phrase

November 6, 1944. Zionist terrorists of the Stern Gang assassinated the British Minister Resident in the Middle East, Lord Moyne, in Cairo.
July 22, 1946. Zionist terrorists blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem,.,.,killing or injuring more than 200 persons.
October 1, 1946. The British Embassy in Rome was badly damaged by bomb explosions, for which Irgun claimed responsibility.
September 3, 1947. A postal bomb addressed to the British War Office exploded in the post office sorting room in London, injuring 2 persons. It was attributed to Irgun or Stern Gangs. (The Sunday Times, Sept. 24, 1972, p.8)
December ll, 1947. Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.
December 19, 1947. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blowing up two houses in the ruins of which were found the bodies of 10 Arabs, including 5 children. Haganah admitted responsibility for the attack.
mber 13, 1947 -- February 10, 1948. Seven incidents of bomb-tossing at innocent Arab civilians in cafes and markets, killing 138 and wounding 271 others, During this period, there were 9 attacks on Arab buses. Zionists mined passenger trains on at least 4 occasions, killing 93 persons and wounding 161 others.
December 29, 1947. Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi.
June 1947. Letters sent to British Cabinet Ministers were found to contain bombs.
December ll, 1947. Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa ; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.
December 29, 1947. Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi.
January 4, 1948. Haganah terrorists wearing British Army uniforms penetrated into the center of Jaffa and blew up the Serai (the old Turkish Government House) killing more than 40 persons and wounding 98 others.
January 5, 1948. The Arab-owned Semiramis Hotel in Jerusalem was blown up, killing 20 persons.
January 16, 1948. Zionists blew up three Arab buildings. In the first, 8 children between the ages of 18 months and 12 years, died.
February 15, 1948. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blew up several houses, killing 11 Arabs, including 4 children.
March 3, 1948. Heavy damage was done to the Arab-owned Salam building in Haifa by Zionists who drove an army lorry ( truck) up to the building and escaped before the detonation of 400 Ib. of explosives; casualties numbered 11 Arabs and 3 Armenians killed and 23 injured.
March 22, 1948. A housing block in Iraq Street in Haifa was blown up killing 17 and injuring 100 others. Four members of the Stern Gang drove two truck-loads of explosives into the street and abandoned the vehicles before the explosion.
March 31, 1948. The Cairo-Haifa Express was mined, for the second time in a month, by an electronically-detonated land mine near Benyamina, killing 40 persons and wounding 60 others.
April 9, 1948. A combined force of Irgun Zvai Leumi and the Stern Gang, captured the Arab village of Deir Yassin and killed more than 200 unarmed civilians, including countless women and children. Older men and young women were paraded in chains in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem; 20 of the hostages were then in the quarry of Gevaat Shaul.
April 16, 1948. Zionists attacked the former British army camp at Tel Litvinsky, killing 90 Arabs there.
April 19, 1948. Fourteen Arabs were killed in a house in Tiberias, which was blown up by Zionist terrorists.
May 3, 1948. A book bomb addressed to a British Army officer, who had been stationed in Palestine exploded, killing his brother, Rex Farran.
May11, 1948. A letter bomb addressed to Sir Evelyn Barker, former Commanding Officer in Palestine, was detected in the nick of time by his wife.
April 25, 1948 -- May 13, 1948. Wholesale looting of Jaffa was carried out following armed attacks by Irgun and Haganah terrorists. They stripped and carried away everything they could, destroying what they could not take with them.

Israeli intelligence service, Mossad, has confirmed that the Israeli art students were, in fact, part of a major Israeli intelligence operation and that they were conducting surveillance of the activities of the 9-11 hijackers. They also worked with the Israeli Urban Moving System employees in New Jersey who were seen in at least two Jersey City locations -- Liberty State Park and The Doric apartment building -- celebrating the impact of the first plane into the World Trade Center.

The Israelis at Liberty State Park were dressed in Arab-style clothing when they were witnessed celebrating the first attack. The FBI later confiscated a videotape they filmed of the first attack.
http://tinyurl.com/8ss8r7r

I add this--
The USS Liberty incident was an attack on a United States Navy technical research ship, USS Liberty, by Israeli Air Force jet fighter aircraft and Israeli Navy motor torpedo boats, on 8 June 1967, during the Six-Day War. The combined air and sea attack killed 34 crew members (naval officers, seamen, two marines, and one civilian NSA employee), wounded 171 crew members, and severely damaged the ship. At the time, the ship was in international waters north of the Sinai Peninsula, about 25.5 nmi (29.3 mi; 47.2 km) northwest from the Egyptian city of Arish.
USS Liberty incident - Wikipedia

Google Irgun, Haganah and Stern gangs
Irgun - Wikipedia
Haganah - Wikipedia
Stern Gang | Zionist extremist organization | Britannica

BTW: The Haganah gang later became the Israeli Defense Force (IDF)
-

actually the french did during the french revolution

but yes the Israelites fought for their independence from British rule. Lots of other nations have as well

and yea if you voted for a senator or congressman you voted for them to speak for you about foreign aid

Wrong.
The British NEVER ruled Palestine.
It was ruled by the Ottoman empire until they were defeated by the Arabs in WWI.
The Treaty of San Remo and Sevres gave the Arab Palestine independence, and the British only got the Mandate to protect them until they had a government that could be recognized.

But the Zionist did blow up the King David Hotel to murder the British peacekeepers, so that the Zionists would massacre Arab villages with impunity.
The Zionists also gunned down the UN Moderator, Folke Bernadotte, so the UN would not interfere in their plans for mass murder.

check out British Mandate after WW1

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The Treaty of San Remo and Sevres gave the Arab Palestine independence

But enough about Jordan.

Wrong.
TransJordan was split Palestine and Jordan to exclude any Jewish immigration at all into Jordan.
But Jewish immigration to Palestine was still to have quotas and remain under Moslem rule.

Read the 1922 Churchill Whitepaper that explained the law.

The Avalon Project : British White Paper of June 1922

[...
Unauthorized statements have been made to the effect that the purpose in view is to create a wholly Jewish Palestine. Phrases have been used such as that Palestine is to become "as Jewish as England is English." His Majesty's Government regard any such expectation as impracticable and have no such aim in view. Nor have they at any time contemplated, as appears to be feared by the Arab deegation, the disappearance or the subordination of the Arabic population, language, or culture in Palestine. They would draw attention to the fact that the terms of the Declaration referred to do not contemplate that Palestine as a whole should be converted into a Jewish National Home, but that such a Home should be founded `in Palestine.' In this connection it has been observed with satisfaction that at a meeting of the Zionist Congress, the supreme governing body of the Zionist Organization, held at Carlsbad in September, 1921, a resolution was passed expressing as the official statement of Zionist aims "the determination of the Jewish people to live with the Arab people on terms of unity and mutual respect, and together with them to make the common home into a flourishing community, the upbuilding of which may assure to each of its peoples an undisturbed national development."

It is also necessary to point out that the Zionist Commission in Palestine, now termed the Palestine Zionist Executive, has not desired to possess, and does not possess, any share in the general administration of the country. Nor does the special position assigned to the Zionist Organization in Article IV of the Draft Mandate for Palestine imply any such functions. That special position relates to the measures to be taken in Palestine affecting the Jewish population, and contemplates that the organization may assist in the general development of the country, but does not entitle it to share in any degree in its government.

Further, it is contemplated that the status of all citizens of Palestine in the eyes of the law shall be Palestinian, and it has never been intended that they, or any section of them, should possess any other juridical status. So far as the Jewish population of Palestine are concerned it appears that some among them are apprehensive that His Majesty's Government may depart from the policy embodied in the Declaration of 1917. It is necessary, therefore, once more to affirm that these fears are unfounded, and that that Declaration, re affirmed by the Conference of the Principle Allied Powers at San Remo and again in the Treaty of Sevres, is not susceptible of change.
...}

TransJordan was split Palestine and Jordan to exclude any Jewish immigration at all into Jordan.

I know......an entire huge country, just for the Arabs.

 

[Juicin]

Israel, the 51st State of the USA & then maybe not

For all practical purposes Israel is America’s 51st State. The US gives Israel 10’s of $billions of dollars each year and yet American Citizen’s did not vote for this.

What’s up?
I think it is time for a national vote on this.

Either we bring in Israel as our 51st State and they pay their fair share or we stop the $billions in handouts.

How do you vote-?

This report provides an overview of U.S. foreign assistance to Israel. It includes a review of past aid programs, data on annual assistance, and analysis of current issues. For general information on Israel, see CRS Report RL33476, Israel: Background and U.S. Relations, by Jim Zanotti. Israel is the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign assistance since World War II. To date, the United States has provided Israel $127.4 billion (current, or non-inflation-adjusted, dollars) in bilateral assistance. Almost all U.S. bilateral aid to Israel is in the form of military assistance, although in the past Israel also received significant economic assistance.

BTW We, as in American citizens owe Israel nothing, nada, zip so I as---

In Jerusalem Israeli’s spit on Christians and the US press never reports it.

What’s up------?

Israel's not the 51st State. They are just terror victims trying to defend themselves. That's why we support them. Well, we not being Democrats. Democrats consistently support evil. If you pick any given issue, Democrats will support the side evil is on

lol yea the nazis were terror victims too

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Israel is its own little nation
The size of NJ and better than most nations

Wrong.
Israel is an illegal nation of 6 million Jews ruling over 12 million Moslems, most of whom are not allowed to vote.
Only about 1 million Moslems are allowed to vote in Israel.
And Israel would not be doing well if not for $5 billion a year in US foreign aid.

Israel is an illegal nation of 6 million Jews ruling over 12 million Moslems

You keep making that claim.

You have any backup for "12 million Moslems"?

Or did you just pull it out of your ass?

Only about 1 million Moslems are allowed to vote in Israel.

How many Jews can vote in nearby Moslem countries?
How many Moslems can vote in nearby Moslem countries?

And Israel would not be doing well if not for $5 billion a year in US foreign aid.

Less than 1.5% of GDP? Meh.

 

[Rigby5]

Israel, the 51st State of the USA & then maybe not

For all practical purposes Israel is America’s 51st State. The US gives Israel 10’s of $billions of dollars each year and yet American Citizen’s did not vote for this.

What’s up?
I think it is time for a national vote on this.

Either we bring in Israel as our 51st State and they pay their fair share or we stop the $billions in handouts.

How do you vote-?

This report provides an overview of U.S. foreign assistance to Israel. It includes a review of past aid programs, data on annual assistance, and analysis of current issues. For general information on Israel, see CRS Report RL33476, Israel: Background and U.S. Relations, by Jim Zanotti. Israel is the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign assistance since World War II. To date, the United States has provided Israel $127.4 billion (current, or non-inflation-adjusted, dollars) in bilateral assistance. Almost all U.S. bilateral aid to Israel is in the form of military assistance, although in the past Israel also received significant economic assistance.

BTW We, as in American citizens owe Israel nothing, nada, zip so I as---

In Jerusalem Israeli’s spit on Christians and the US press never reports it.

What’s up------?

Israel's not the 51st State. They are just terror victims trying to defend themselves. That's why we support them. Well, we not being Democrats. Democrats consistently support evil. If you pick any given issue, Democrats will support the side evil is on

Israel is not the 51st state, that is because the are the greatest terrorists in the world and would be prosecuted for their constant war crimes if they were under US federal jurisdiction.
Remember that the only thread Israel has to legitimize its existence at all is the 1948 UN partition, and clearly Jerusalem then is NOT part of Israel.
No other state has ever been allowed to get away with such blatant murder and land theft as Israel is obviously guilty of.

Really? The history of the institution of the State indicates that when it comes to "blatant murder and land theft" that the Israeli's are rank AMATEURS.

"The positive testimony of history is that the State invariably had its origin in conquest and confiscation. No primitive State known to history originated in any other manner." -- Albert J. Nock

No other time in history has a foreign invasion of illegal immigrant ever tried to commit genocide of the indigenous natives like the European Zionists are doing to the Palestinian natives.

If you are referring to the Holocaust, the Germans felt the Jews were traitors due to their spying for the Allies in WWI.
The Jews were not native to Germany.
So it is not that unnatural for the Germans to then want the Jews to leave.

That is completely different then Palestine, where the Jews were not native, but instead illegally immigrated, and started murdering indigenous Arabs in order to make the natives leave.
The is horrific and unconscionable.

Normally when one state invades another, all that happens is that the people switch who they pay taxes to.
It is very rare that one side decides to commit genocide on the other.
Zionists are about the only people in history who ever did that, going back to the Biblical massacre of Canaanites in Jericho by Joshua.

 

[Quasar44]

Israel is its own little nation
The size of NJ and better than most nations

Wrong.
Israel is an illegal nation of 6 million Jews ruling over 12 million Moslems, most of whom are not allowed to vote.
Only about 1 million Moslems are allowed to vote in Israel.
And Israel would not be doing well if not for $5 billion a year in US foreign aid.

Israel is an illegal nation of 6 million Jews ruling over 12 million Moslems

You keep making that claim.

You have any backup for "12 million Moslems"?

Or did you just pull it out of your ass?

Only about 1 million Moslems are allowed to vote in Israel.

How many Jews can vote in nearby Moslem countries?
How many Moslems can vote in nearby Moslem countries?

And Israel would not be doing well if not for $5 billion a year in US foreign aid.

Less than 1.5% of GDP? Meh.

Most Mooslems are actually run by the PA

Israel is nearing 7 million jooze

 

[Rigby5]

we elected leaders that decide who gets foreign aid and who doesn’t

As an American citizen at the age of 71, I did not vote for the following--
Arabs were not the “first” to engage in “terrorism”, The Zionists coined the phrase

November 6, 1944. Zionist terrorists of the Stern Gang assassinated the British Minister Resident in the Middle East, Lord Moyne, in Cairo.
July 22, 1946. Zionist terrorists blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem,.,.,killing or injuring more than 200 persons.
October 1, 1946. The British Embassy in Rome was badly damaged by bomb explosions, for which Irgun claimed responsibility.
September 3, 1947. A postal bomb addressed to the British War Office exploded in the post office sorting room in London, injuring 2 persons. It was attributed to Irgun or Stern Gangs. (The Sunday Times, Sept. 24, 1972, p.8)
December ll, 1947. Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.
December 19, 1947. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blowing up two houses in the ruins of which were found the bodies of 10 Arabs, including 5 children. Haganah admitted responsibility for the attack.
mber 13, 1947 -- February 10, 1948. Seven incidents of bomb-tossing at innocent Arab civilians in cafes and markets, killing 138 and wounding 271 others, During this period, there were 9 attacks on Arab buses. Zionists mined passenger trains on at least 4 occasions, killing 93 persons and wounding 161 others.
December 29, 1947. Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi.
June 1947. Letters sent to British Cabinet Ministers were found to contain bombs.
December ll, 1947. Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa ; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.
December 29, 1947. Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi.
January 4, 1948. Haganah terrorists wearing British Army uniforms penetrated into the center of Jaffa and blew up the Serai (the old Turkish Government House) killing more than 40 persons and wounding 98 others.
January 5, 1948. The Arab-owned Semiramis Hotel in Jerusalem was blown up, killing 20 persons.
January 16, 1948. Zionists blew up three Arab buildings. In the first, 8 children between the ages of 18 months and 12 years, died.
February 15, 1948. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blew up several houses, killing 11 Arabs, including 4 children.
March 3, 1948. Heavy damage was done to the Arab-owned Salam building in Haifa by Zionists who drove an army lorry ( truck) up to the building and escaped before the detonation of 400 Ib. of explosives; casualties numbered 11 Arabs and 3 Armenians killed and 23 injured.
March 22, 1948. A housing block in Iraq Street in Haifa was blown up killing 17 and injuring 100 others. Four members of the Stern Gang drove two truck-loads of explosives into the street and abandoned the vehicles before the explosion.
March 31, 1948. The Cairo-Haifa Express was mined, for the second time in a month, by an electronically-detonated land mine near Benyamina, killing 40 persons and wounding 60 others.
April 9, 1948. A combined force of Irgun Zvai Leumi and the Stern Gang, captured the Arab village of Deir Yassin and killed more than 200 unarmed civilians, including countless women and children. Older men and young women were paraded in chains in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem; 20 of the hostages were then in the quarry of Gevaat Shaul.
April 16, 1948. Zionists attacked the former British army camp at Tel Litvinsky, killing 90 Arabs there.
April 19, 1948. Fourteen Arabs were killed in a house in Tiberias, which was blown up by Zionist terrorists.
May 3, 1948. A book bomb addressed to a British Army officer, who had been stationed in Palestine exploded, killing his brother, Rex Farran.
May11, 1948. A letter bomb addressed to Sir Evelyn Barker, former Commanding Officer in Palestine, was detected in the nick of time by his wife.
April 25, 1948 -- May 13, 1948. Wholesale looting of Jaffa was carried out following armed attacks by Irgun and Haganah terrorists. They stripped and carried away everything they could, destroying what they could not take with them.

Israeli intelligence service, Mossad, has confirmed that the Israeli art students were, in fact, part of a major Israeli intelligence operation and that they were conducting surveillance of the activities of the 9-11 hijackers. They also worked with the Israeli Urban Moving System employees in New Jersey who were seen in at least two Jersey City locations -- Liberty State Park and The Doric apartment building -- celebrating the impact of the first plane into the World Trade Center.

The Israelis at Liberty State Park were dressed in Arab-style clothing when they were witnessed celebrating the first attack. The FBI later confiscated a videotape they filmed of the first attack.
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I add this--
The USS Liberty incident was an attack on a United States Navy technical research ship, USS Liberty, by Israeli Air Force jet fighter aircraft and Israeli Navy motor torpedo boats, on 8 June 1967, during the Six-Day War. The combined air and sea attack killed 34 crew members (naval officers, seamen, two marines, and one civilian NSA employee), wounded 171 crew members, and severely damaged the ship. At the time, the ship was in international waters north of the Sinai Peninsula, about 25.5 nmi (29.3 mi; 47.2 km) northwest from the Egyptian city of Arish.
USS Liberty incident - Wikipedia

Google Irgun, Haganah and Stern gangs
Irgun - Wikipedia
Haganah - Wikipedia
Stern Gang | Zionist extremist organization | Britannica

BTW: The Haganah gang later became the Israeli Defense Force (IDF)
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actually the french did during the french revolution

but yes the Israelites fought for their independence from British rule. Lots of other nations have as well

and yea if you voted for a senator or congressman you voted for them to speak for you about foreign aid

Wrong.
The British NEVER ruled Palestine.
It was ruled by the Ottoman empire until they were defeated by the Arabs in WWI.
The Treaty of San Remo and Sevres gave the Arab Palestine independence, and the British only got the Mandate to protect them until they had a government that could be recognized.

But the Zionist did blow up the King David Hotel to murder the British peacekeepers, so that the Zionists would massacre Arab villages with impunity.
The Zionists also gunned down the UN Moderator, Folke Bernadotte, so the UN would not interfere in their plans for mass murder.

check out British Mandate after WW1

No, YOU check it out.
I KNOW what is says.
The British Mandate for Palestine was to prepare an Arab Moslem, Palestinian government for independence.

The Avalon Project : British White Paper of June 1922

{...
Unauthorized statements have been made to the effect that the purpose in view is to create a wholly Jewish Palestine. Phrases have been used such as that Palestine is to become "as Jewish as England is English." His Majesty's Government regard any such expectation as impracticable and have no such aim in view. Nor have they at any time contemplated, as appears to be feared by the Arab deegation, the disappearance or the subordination of the Arabic population, language, or culture in Palestine. They would draw attention to the fact that the terms of the Declaration referred to do not contemplate that Palestine as a whole should be converted into a Jewish National Home, but that such a Home should be founded `in Palestine.' In this connection it has been observed with satisfaction that at a meeting of the Zionist Congress, the supreme governing body of the Zionist Organization, held at Carlsbad in September, 1921, a resolution was passed expressing as the official statement of Zionist aims "the determination of the Jewish people to live with the Arab people on terms of unity and mutual respect, and together with them to make the common home into a flourishing community, the upbuilding of which may assure to each of its peoples an undisturbed national development."

It is also necessary to point out that the Zionist Commission in Palestine, now termed the Palestine Zionist Executive, has not desired to possess, and does not possess, any share in the general administration of the country. Nor does the special position assigned to the Zionist Organization in Article IV of the Draft Mandate for Palestine imply any such functions. That special position relates to the measures to be taken in Palestine affecting the Jewish population, and contemplates that the organization may assist in the general development of the country, but does not entitle it to share in any degree in its government.

Further, it is contemplated that the status of all citizens of Palestine in the eyes of the law shall be Palestinian, and it has never been intended that they, or any section of them, should possess any other juridical status. So far as the Jewish population of Palestine are concerned it appears that some among them are apprehensive that His Majesty's Government may depart from the policy embodied in the Declaration of 1917. It is necessary, therefore, once more to affirm that these fears are unfounded, and that that Declaration, re affirmed by the Conference of the Principle Allied Powers at San Remo and again in the Treaty of Sevres, is not susceptible of change. ...}

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

No other time in history has a foreign invasion of illegal immigrant ever tried to commit genocide of the indigenous natives

Genocide? Sounds horrible!
How many of those "indigenous natives" living in "Palestine" in 1948? How many today?