Israel: Serial Terror-Bomber

Gaza's civilians responsible for "electing" Hamas

So, in your opinion, it's ok to target the civilians in Gaza because they are "responsible" for electing Hamas?
I'll repeat, Israel were the only side trying to minimize civilian casualties, it can't go hand to hand with "its ok to target civilians".
I Do not feel any pity for those wish me to die, I Do feel pity for those who did not supported Hamas or the rest of the mob in the first place and just want to live in peace - but my first priority goes to the Israeli civilians.
Its not black and white as you try to conclude it, let me ask you this - you are standing in front of a man, one that already killed several innocent people and you know that if you won't shot him tomorrow he'll be executing another plan for mass killing of innocents, thing is that he stands nearby some kids, even his boy, you know that you can't take the shot without risk in hurting the kids - its most likely they'd get hurt, but you won't be able to catch him later and tomorrow he'd most certainly kill more..what would you do?
And you would kill him even if your strike killed 15 or 20 civilians too





YES if it saved untold thousands from being killed if I didn't.

Would you take the shot if it was the leader of ISIS surrounded by women and children to save thousands from being raped and murdered ?

Makes you a zionist terrorist Phoney!




Does it indeed, Then do explain who I am terrorising by targeting a military target with the intention of taking him/her out of the game. You really are being silly letting your hatred rule your thought processess
 
I too see a VERY clear distinction between Hamas and the Palestinian people too...

Hamas, terrorist organisation... Palestinian people, oppressed civilians...

Yes, you did specify Hamas and not Palestinians... But, even though we both consider them separate, you cannot oppress Hamas without oppressing the people of Gaza...

When sanctions are placed upon a country/region then it is not ONLY the government who suffers!
That is the part of which I have to remind you that the Palestinians chose Hamas to govern them for promising to take over Israel killing all Israelis (if they could) - correct me if I'm wrong.

To support your claim you would also have to say that every German was a Nazi and deserved to die...
Before you just to comparison I'd like to know if you agree with my previous post or not.

Of course the Palestinians voted for Hamas... The same way the Germans voted for Adolf Hitler!

...and so it was necessary for the civilized world to defend itself against the evils of Nazism, as it is necessary to fight IslamoNazism by groups like Hamas and ISIS.

Agreed
 
Gaza's civilians responsible for "electing" Hamas

So, in your opinion, it's ok to target the civilians in Gaza because they are "responsible" for electing Hamas?





No because they allow them to use civilian areas and act as human shields. This is covered in the Geneva conventions and turns the civilians into militia/military and so valid targets

Only in your deranged head Phoney...!





No actually written in the Geneva conventions. I know you don't like the idea of International law applying to anyone but the muslims, but it does.
 
Provide a link to support your comment...

The oppressed have a right to fight back...

So, when rockets are fired into Israel from Gaza.... Don't be too surprised!

And before you start bleating on about me supporting terrorism...

Shall be just say that one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter!

I do not support Hamas or terrorism.... I do not support the oppression by Israel either...

Gaza Strip smuggling tunnels - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
"The oppressed" are definitely not Hamas and they have absolutely no right to target civilians, period.
When the rockets are being fired into Israeli civilians it is more like the Gazan's who shouldn't be surprised when Israel retaliation brings a total disaster and say whatever you want but Israel were the only side trying to minimize civilian casualties and since it was the Gaza's civilians responsible for "electing" Hamas and Co. in the first place knowingly what they aim for there is no room for moral ground now that they woke up between a rock and a hard place.

The oppressed are definitely the Palestinians living in Gaza...

• The international law of occupation applies to Israel with respect to the Gaza Strip in the spheres in which it continues to exercise control.
• The closure – restricting movement of civilians and civilian goods to and from Gaza by air, sea and land – is unlawful.
• Israel may determine the routes by which goods and people enter and leave Gaza and may run security checks. Israel may enforce these conditions, including against ships.
• Changes in control over Rafah Crossing mitigate Israel’s responsibility but do not eliminate it because of Israel’s control over travel between Gaza and the West Bank, travel via air and sea, and other spheres of life, as well as due to post-occupation duties.

Scale of Control Does Israel Control Gaza Gisha
Gaza-Israel conflict Is the fighting over - BBC News

Since when has the west bank had a sea coast.

Didn't say anything about west bank having a coast you dumbass!





Well how could the Palestinians cross from gaza to the west bank by sea then. As that is what you posted. And since when has it been LAW to allow free passage for terrorists across sovereign land

Where does it say that Phoney?????
 
I too see a VERY clear distinction between Hamas and the Palestinian people too...

Hamas, terrorist organisation... Palestinian people, oppressed civilians...

Yes, you did specify Hamas and not Palestinians... But, even though we both consider them separate, you cannot oppress Hamas without oppressing the people of Gaza...

When sanctions are placed upon a country/region then it is not ONLY the government who suffers!
That is the part of which I have to remind you that the Palestinians chose Hamas to govern them for promising to take over Israel killing all Israelis (if they could) - correct me if I'm wrong.

To support your claim you would also have to say that every German was a Nazi and deserved to die...
Before you just to comparison I'd like to know if you agree with my previous post or not.

Of course the Palestinians voted for Hamas... The same way the Germans voted for Adolf Hitler!
You are still jumping to comparisons too early.
So in different words we can say that the Palestinians supported Hamas goal (passively and actively ) and without their support in Hamas none (or at least) most of this wouldn't happen? - therefore if the Palestinians are responsible for Hamas there is no way they could not be responsible for the consequinces of their actions and the following events, correct me if I'm wrong.

I fail to see what point you are actually trying to make here...

Yes the Palestinians voted for Hamas...

"...most of this wouldn't happen?" Most of what?

So the comprison is "too early"... How so?
 
Gaza's civilians responsible for "electing" Hamas

So, in your opinion, it's ok to target the civilians in Gaza because they are "responsible" for electing Hamas?





No because they allow them to use civilian areas and act as human shields. This is covered in the Geneva conventions and turns the civilians into militia/military and so valid targets

Only in your deranged head Phoney...!





No actually written in the Geneva conventions. I know you don't like the idea of International law applying to anyone but the muslims, but it does.
Fire your weapons, and whatever you hit, declare it the target
 
Israel operates like America, other rogue NATO members and Saudi Arabia. It claims a divine right to terror-bomb other nations, groups and individuals at its discretion...
Awwwww... I take it that you don't much care for The West and its mode of dealing with these Militant Radical Islamist scum?

Never mind your hard-on over Israel.

I'll bet that really gets your goat (and your camel) in gripe-sessions at the local mosque.
 
Israel operates like America, other rogue NATO members and Saudi Arabia. It claims a divine right to terror-bomb other nations, groups and individuals at its discretion.

It calls naked aggression “self-defense.” It calls justifiable resistance “terrorism.” It willfully targets civilians. It invents reasons to justify its lawlessness. They ring hollow every time.

Since Obama launched lawless aggression against Syria in March 2011, Israel terror-bombed the country numerous times – always claiming military or national security justification.

Aggression is a war crime at all times under all circumstances. Israel is a serial offender.

In late April, IDF warplanes killed four people it called “armed terrorists” allegedly trying to plant bombs near Golan’s border between both countries.

The incident occurred in Israeli occupied Majdal Shams. An IDF spokesman claimed “terrorists” armed with explosives “were en route to imminent attack on our forces. Our air force neutralized the threat.”

No evidence corroborated Israel’s account of the incident. It does what it pleases. It invents reasons why post-facto. Often it neither confirms or denies attacks.

Netanyahu praised the “vigilance” of Israeli forces. Saying “(e)very attempt to attack Israeli soldiers or civilians will be met with a decisive response like this operation which thwarted the attack.”

Imagine if every country used warplanes, attack helicopters or heavy ground weapons to counter alleged homeland or border area threats – real or invented. Imagine communities being battlegrounds more than already.

Four deaths were reported this time – perhaps noncombatant civilians wrongfully accused.

Israel covertly collaborates with anti-Assad takfiri terrorists – arming them and treating their wounded.
Israel Serial Terror-Bomber RINF Alternative News Alternative Media

Israel wants nations and organizations it attacks denied the right of self-defense. It wants the right to terrorize them freely.





Since when is targeting children in schools " justifiable resistance "



"At least 44 civilians were killed, 227 injured at six U.N.-run schools during last summer’s conflict....
A U.N. report says that Israel killed at least 44 civilians and injured 227 others at six shelters the agency administered during last summer’s conflict in Gaza.....The new report says the worst single civilian death toll in its shelters occurred at the Jabalia Elementary Girls School on July 30, when four Israel Defense Forces artillery shells struck the school, killing 17 or 18 people. Witnesses told U.N. investigators that there was no nearby militant activity, the report said.

U.N. Says Israel Killed Civilians in Schools Gazans Hid Arms - WSJ
Shit happens, in war.

Especially in warfare against savage Neanderthals who routinely embed war assets in schools and mosques and hospitals and residential neighborhoods.

Don't want to get hurt?

Don't fire rockets at an adversary living a few miles away who out-punches you by a 1000-to-1 ratio.

Duh.

The idiot leadership of Hamas is definitely a few fries short of a Happy Meal.
 
That is the part of which I have to remind you that the Palestinians chose Hamas to govern them for promising to take over Israel killing all Israelis (if they could) - correct me if I'm wrong.

To support your claim you would also have to say that every German was a Nazi and deserved to die...
Before you just to comparison I'd like to know if you agree with my previous post or not.

Of course the Palestinians voted for Hamas... The same way the Germans voted for Adolf Hitler!
You are still jumping to comparisons too early.
So in different words we can say that the Palestinians supported Hamas goal (passively and actively ) and without their support in Hamas none (or at least) most of this wouldn't happen? - therefore if the Palestinians are responsible for Hamas there is no way they could not be responsible for the consequinces of their actions and the following events, correct me if I'm wrong.

I fail to see what point you are actually trying to make here...

Yes the Palestinians voted for Hamas...

"...most of this wouldn't happen?" Most of what?

So the comprison is "too early"... How so?
Gaza's civilians responsible for "electing" Hamas

So, in your opinion, it's ok to target the civilians in Gaza because they are "responsible" for electing Hamas?





No because they allow them to use civilian areas and act as human shields. This is covered in the Geneva conventions and turns the civilians into militia/military and so valid targets

Only in your deranged head Phoney...!





No actually written in the Geneva conventions. I know you don't like the idea of International law applying to anyone but the muslims, but it does.
Fire your weapons, and whatever you hit, declare it the target

That's how Palestinians operate.

Heyvoun.
 
Terrorism is the intentional targeting and killing of civilians for political or ideological purposes. Which Israel doesn't do, but for Muslims especially Palestinian savages it is business as usual. That's why Hamas is designated officially by the US and Western nations as a terrorist organization, and Israel isn't.

You started with nothing and you still have most of it left.

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Have a scan through the 975,000 Google results and tell me that Israel does not target civilians for political or ideological purposes...

Google

First page is all ANTI ISREALI BIASED SOURCES so why go any further than that. Now find an unbiased source to prove your claims or admit that you LIE

Wow, Phoney... Didn't you find any unbiased sources?

Do you know why?

Because the truth hurts!!!

So, toddle off and find me an unbiased source that states different...

I just gave you 975,000 links to look at and you can't give me ONE!
No, you gave 0 links – just an asinine Google search. You have been given several and even showed how those used to support your position thus far have actually supported the opposite. See above, WHY should I or anyone take you seriously when your hate is predicated on ignorance of the situation. If it was based on reality then you would have brought something to support it in the last week.

The really pathetic part is that there is information out there to address – information that shows Israel reactions are very harsh and a debate on what the future should look like but you can’t have that conversation – you are to focused on hate and vitrol to even see who is the real predicator of the violence and death.

Well, my "assinine Google search"... It's a link that links to a further 975,000 links! So, there is a link...

Some members here do provide links, correct... My post refers to one member who fails to support a single word he says! That makes him a joke!

However, let's move on....

Which conversation would you like to have about the Israel Palestine situation because yes I can and will have that conversation...

I have no hate, just a strong view of Israel and it's belligerent politics...

So, fire away...

what about the terrorists on the other side ?





how do you negotiate peace with non-belligerent terrorists, who pose for pictures like this ?



what's all that about up there? you know what -- AND to top it off, they're the Government of the Palestinians...."terrorists."



.... in general, want to be known as: Belligerent or a sniveling, cowardly, evil terrorist ?

ordered from cairo - 30 minutes or less (or it's free).....
 
What's the matter, can't read, you ******* moron? :lmao:

The animals used the schools for military purposes.

AGENCY DEMANDS FULL RESPECT FOR THE SANCTITY OF ITS PREMISES IN GAZA
Gaza

Today, in the course of the regular inspection of its premises, UNRWA discovered rockets hidden in a vacant school in the Gaza Strip. As soon as the rockets were discovered, UNRWA staff were withdrawn from the premises. The school is situated between two other UNRWA schools that currently each accommodate 1,500 internally displaced persons.

UNRWA strongly and unequivocally condemns the group or groups responsible for this flagrant violation of the inviolability of its premises under international law.


55. On 16 July 2015, a 120 MM mortar tube, a mortar bipod and twenty 120 MM mortar-round containers, with ammunition, were discovered under a blanket in the corner of a locked classroom. The weapom’y was photographed.

56. UNRWA senior management notified the local authorities in Gaza and asked that the weapons be removed. The United Nations Department of Safety and Security (UNDSS) contacted the Special Protection Unit (SPU) of the local police and also asked that the weapons be removed, apparently through the local police’s explosive ordnance detachment. The SPU asked that the United Nations guarantee that the IDF would not strike while the weapons were being removed and that a United Nations vehicle be used to remove the weapons. DSS refused.

57. The Board was informed that UNRWA had received testimony that two individuals identifying themselves as policemen had come to the school, alleged that they knew who was responsible for the cache of weapons and left a telephone number. Upon being contacted, one of these individuals stated that the weapons would be removed fi’om the school in the early morning. The Board was further informed that, early in the morning of 17 July, the door to the classroom in question was found locked, with no signs of forced entry or exit, and that it was noted that the weapons had been removed.

58. On 17 July, UNRWA informed Israel’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs about the finding of the weapons and their subsequent disappearance. In the afternoon of 17 July, UNRWA issued a press release stating that a cache of approximately 20 rockets (sic) had been found hidden in a vacant school. Under a misapprehension that the explosive ordnance detachment of the local police had removed the weapom’y, the press release stated that UNRWA had informed the relevant parties and had successfully taken all necessary measures for the removal of the objects in order to preserve the safety and security of the school.

59. The Board found that, in the light of the situation in the vicinity, the security measures at the school were weak prior to and on the day of the incident, partly due to the fact that the personnel charged with the school’s security were subject to life-threatening circumstances. It also found that an unidentified Palestinian armed group had used the school premises to hide the weaponry.

Incident (i): Presence of weaponry at the UNRWA Jabalia Elementary “C” and Ayyobiya Boys School on 22 July 2014

60. The Jabalia Elementary “C” and Ayyobiya Boys School is one in a row of five schools situated in an urban area to the east of the Jabalia refugee camp. Behind the school is a large open area with small-scale agricultural land. The Board was informed that this area was known for its use as a firing site for armed groups and that it had been targeted by the IDF in past conflicts.
I've already addressed this nonsense.

If you don't have the gray matter to understand my response, then you really shouldn't be participating in conversations such as these.

how about a little white-matter..



keep pretending these open fields -- are just innocent firing ranges for 'armed groups.' armed groups ?


yeah, armed groups...



(remember al queda paid a visit to them last year)? go ahead, pretend they didn't..............
 
Gaza Strip smuggling tunnels - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
"The oppressed" are definitely not Hamas and they have absolutely no right to target civilians, period.
When the rockets are being fired into Israeli civilians it is more like the Gazan's who shouldn't be surprised when Israel retaliation brings a total disaster and say whatever you want but Israel were the only side trying to minimize civilian casualties and since it was the Gaza's civilians responsible for "electing" Hamas and Co. in the first place knowingly what they aim for there is no room for moral ground now that they woke up between a rock and a hard place.

The oppressed are definitely the Palestinians living in Gaza...

• The international law of occupation applies to Israel with respect to the Gaza Strip in the spheres in which it continues to exercise control.
• The closure – restricting movement of civilians and civilian goods to and from Gaza by air, sea and land – is unlawful.
• Israel may determine the routes by which goods and people enter and leave Gaza and may run security checks. Israel may enforce these conditions, including against ships.
• Changes in control over Rafah Crossing mitigate Israel’s responsibility but do not eliminate it because of Israel’s control over travel between Gaza and the West Bank, travel via air and sea, and other spheres of life, as well as due to post-occupation duties.

Scale of Control Does Israel Control Gaza Gisha
Gaza-Israel conflict Is the fighting over - BBC News

Since when has the west bank had a sea coast.

Didn't say anything about west bank having a coast you dumbass!





Well how could the Palestinians cross from gaza to the west bank by sea then. As that is what you posted. And since when has it been LAW to allow free passage for terrorists across sovereign land

Where does it say that Phoney?????





" Israel’s control over travel between Gaza and the West Bank, travel via air and sea"
 
Gaza's civilians responsible for "electing" Hamas

So, in your opinion, it's ok to target the civilians in Gaza because they are "responsible" for electing Hamas?





No because they allow them to use civilian areas and act as human shields. This is covered in the Geneva conventions and turns the civilians into militia/military and so valid targets

Only in your deranged head Phoney...!





No actually written in the Geneva conventions. I know you don't like the idea of International law applying to anyone but the muslims, but it does.
Fire your weapons, and whatever you hit, declare it the target





Not hard with the population numbers if gaza, most being hamas followers
 
That is the part of which I have to remind you that the Palestinians chose Hamas to govern them for promising to take over Israel killing all Israelis (if they could) - correct me if I'm wrong.

To support your claim you would also have to say that every German was a Nazi and deserved to die...
Before you just to comparison I'd like to know if you agree with my previous post or not.

Of course the Palestinians voted for Hamas... The same way the Germans voted for Adolf Hitler!
You are still jumping to comparisons too early.
So in different words we can say that the Palestinians supported Hamas goal (passively and actively ) and without their support in Hamas none (or at least) most of this wouldn't happen? - therefore if the Palestinians are responsible for Hamas there is no way they could not be responsible for the consequinces of their actions and the following events, correct me if I'm wrong.

I fail to see what point you are actually trying to make here...

Yes the Palestinians voted for Hamas...

"...most of this wouldn't happen?" Most of what?

So the comprison is "too early"... How so?
You still don't see the entire picture and this is why you can't make any comparison before you understand the entire picture which is why I'm walking you step by step on the responsibility for 'Protective Edge' and the situation in Gaza, so back to the subject - the Palestinians were fully responsible for Hamas - and they knew Hamas will attempt to attack Israel and they wanted their piece in it which is why they (most of them) elected Hamas - to attack Israel, if you do not agree lets go a little back, in case you do - I'd like to know again why are you not supporting Hamas if you do support the Palestinians which supports Hamas?
Another question, if you do support the Palestinians which supports Hamas, why are you still claiming they are the oppressed or that they have the right to attack civilians and Israel doesn't?
Take your time.
 
To support your claim you would also have to say that every German was a Nazi and deserved to die...
Before you just to comparison I'd like to know if you agree with my previous post or not.

Of course the Palestinians voted for Hamas... The same way the Germans voted for Adolf Hitler!
You are still jumping to comparisons too early.
So in different words we can say that the Palestinians supported Hamas goal (passively and actively ) and without their support in Hamas none (or at least) most of this wouldn't happen? - therefore if the Palestinians are responsible for Hamas there is no way they could not be responsible for the consequinces of their actions and the following events, correct me if I'm wrong.

I fail to see what point you are actually trying to make here...

Yes the Palestinians voted for Hamas...

"...most of this wouldn't happen?" Most of what?

So the comprison is "too early"... How so?
You still don't see the entire picture and this is why you can't make any comparison before you understand the entire picture which is why I'm walking you step by step on the responsibility for 'Protective Edge' and the situation in Gaza, so back to the subject - the Palestinians were fully responsible for Hamas - and they knew Hamas will attempt to attack Israel and they wanted their piece in it which is why they (most of them) elected Hamas - to attack Israel, if you do not agree lets go a little back, in case you do - I'd like to know again why are you not supporting Hamas if you do support the Palestinians which supports Hamas?
Another question, if you do support the Palestinians which supports Hamas, why are you still claiming they are the oppressed or that they have the right to attack civilians and Israel doesn't?
Take your time.

Exactly. It wasn't as if Hamas attempted a hostile takeover, the Gazans knew exactly what they were going to get, and got it.
 
To support your claim you would also have to say that every German was a Nazi and deserved to die...
Before you just to comparison I'd like to know if you agree with my previous post or not.

Of course the Palestinians voted for Hamas... The same way the Germans voted for Adolf Hitler!
You are still jumping to comparisons too early.
So in different words we can say that the Palestinians supported Hamas goal (passively and actively ) and without their support in Hamas none (or at least) most of this wouldn't happen? - therefore if the Palestinians are responsible for Hamas there is no way they could not be responsible for the consequinces of their actions and the following events, correct me if I'm wrong.

I fail to see what point you are actually trying to make here...

Yes the Palestinians voted for Hamas...

"...most of this wouldn't happen?" Most of what?

So the comprison is "too early"... How so?
You still don't see the entire picture and this is why you can't make any comparison before you understand the entire picture which is why I'm walking you step by step on the responsibility for 'Protective Edge' and the situation in Gaza, so back to the subject - the Palestinians were fully responsible for Hamas - and they knew Hamas will attempt to attack Israel and they wanted their piece in it which is why they (most of them) elected Hamas - to attack Israel, if you do not agree lets go a little back, in case you do - I'd like to know again why are you not supporting Hamas if you do support the Palestinians which supports Hamas?
Another question, if you do support the Palestinians which supports Hamas, why are you still claiming they are the oppressed or that they have the right to attack civilians and Israel doesn't?
Take your time.

hahahaha...

Don't be a patronizing prick Daniyel...

The "picture" that you don't see is that every democratic country has the right to vote in a government... Whoever they choose... A 'free' choice...

Somewhere down the line the people may get a little disenchanted with their choice and not agree with their government... The people then have the right to change their mind and vote the party out at the next election...

Thats how people are, how democracy works...

So, every German a Nazi Daniyel?
 
15th post
Don't see any buyer's remorse for Hamas with the Palestinians. Even after years of war and blockade.
 
Prediction: if the Islamic State gets into a position to threaten Israel in any serious way, we will start seeing the mainstream media grow markedly sympathetic to it, with a spate of articles hailing the new “maturity” and “moderation” of the Islamic State.

“ISIS Approaches Israel: Islamic State Loyalists Thwarted By Syrian Rebels Along Golan Heights Border,” by Morgan Winsor, International Business Times, May 20, 2015:

You are being redirected...
 
Before you just to comparison I'd like to know if you agree with my previous post or not.

Of course the Palestinians voted for Hamas... The same way the Germans voted for Adolf Hitler!
You are still jumping to comparisons too early.
So in different words we can say that the Palestinians supported Hamas goal (passively and actively ) and without their support in Hamas none (or at least) most of this wouldn't happen? - therefore if the Palestinians are responsible for Hamas there is no way they could not be responsible for the consequinces of their actions and the following events, correct me if I'm wrong.

I fail to see what point you are actually trying to make here...

Yes the Palestinians voted for Hamas...

"...most of this wouldn't happen?" Most of what?

So the comprison is "too early"... How so?
You still don't see the entire picture and this is why you can't make any comparison before you understand the entire picture which is why I'm walking you step by step on the responsibility for 'Protective Edge' and the situation in Gaza, so back to the subject - the Palestinians were fully responsible for Hamas - and they knew Hamas will attempt to attack Israel and they wanted their piece in it which is why they (most of them) elected Hamas - to attack Israel, if you do not agree lets go a little back, in case you do - I'd like to know again why are you not supporting Hamas if you do support the Palestinians which supports Hamas?
Another question, if you do support the Palestinians which supports Hamas, why are you still claiming they are the oppressed or that they have the right to attack civilians and Israel doesn't?
Take your time.

hahahaha...

Don't be a patronizing prick Daniyel...

The "picture" that you don't see is that every democratic country has the right to vote in a government... Whoever they choose... A 'free' choice...

Somewhere down the line the people may get a little disenchanted with their choice and not agree with their government... The people then have the right to change their mind and vote the party out at the next election...

Thats how people are, how democracy works...

So, every German a Nazi Daniyel?





So when are the dictators now ruling in Palestine going to hold the next elections, if ever..................

So every dickhead a Jew hater inhumanity
 
Before you just to comparison I'd like to know if you agree with my previous post or not.

Of course the Palestinians voted for Hamas... The same way the Germans voted for Adolf Hitler!
You are still jumping to comparisons too early.
So in different words we can say that the Palestinians supported Hamas goal (passively and actively ) and without their support in Hamas none (or at least) most of this wouldn't happen? - therefore if the Palestinians are responsible for Hamas there is no way they could not be responsible for the consequinces of their actions and the following events, correct me if I'm wrong.

I fail to see what point you are actually trying to make here...

Yes the Palestinians voted for Hamas...

"...most of this wouldn't happen?" Most of what?

So the comprison is "too early"... How so?
You still don't see the entire picture and this is why you can't make any comparison before you understand the entire picture which is why I'm walking you step by step on the responsibility for 'Protective Edge' and the situation in Gaza, so back to the subject - the Palestinians were fully responsible for Hamas - and they knew Hamas will attempt to attack Israel and they wanted their piece in it which is why they (most of them) elected Hamas - to attack Israel, if you do not agree lets go a little back, in case you do - I'd like to know again why are you not supporting Hamas if you do support the Palestinians which supports Hamas?
Another question, if you do support the Palestinians which supports Hamas, why are you still claiming they are the oppressed or that they have the right to attack civilians and Israel doesn't?
Take your time.

hahahaha...

Don't be a patronizing prick Daniyel...

The "picture" that you don't see is that every democratic country has the right to vote in a government... Whoever they choose... A 'free' choice...

Somewhere down the line the people may get a little disenchanted with their choice and not agree with their government... The people then have the right to change their mind and vote the party out at the next election...

Thats how people are, how democracy works...

So, every German a Nazi Daniyel?
Oh right, the slight disenchantment of annihilating Israel and liberating Palestine by all means necessary is definitely why Hamas appealed to the Palestinians overy Fatah and the PIJ, the only difference which you thankfully pointed out is that Hamas does not agree for any short term recognition of Israel and Fatah does.
Now before you hump into false comparisons (again) let's discuss something you can provide answers and we can continue this debate like grownups, check my previous questions.
 

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