Israel Opens Dam Gates to Flood Gaza?

[georgephillip]

I'll keep it simple, Stupid:

The mentally ill trash again avoids the facts that destroy her claim, and she then reverts to personal insults to try and deflect from her failures.

Let's go back a step: the turd claims that Israel has a massive, all -powerful army, that is allowing it to "genocide" the arabs in the west bank and gaza.

The FACTS: In SEVENTY YEARS, the israelis have not "conquered" anything, and the arab population has not only massively increased, it enjoys the highest quality of life of any arab muslim country.

This forum really, really needs intelligent posters defending the arabs - the ones it has right now with this moron, pf tin-idiot, etc., are incapable of defending the arab side with any.

Since Jews are still in control of Gazan airspace, coastal waters, and the majority of land borders, their occupation of Gaza continues to this day.

And the fact that the so-called "democratically-elected" arab muslim regime in gaza is at war with israel has nothing to do with that, idiot?

Psychotic Jews and their US bitches (like you) lack the guts to cleanse Gaza today as they did Palestine 65 years ago because the world is watching and Israel, as a Jewish state, would go the way of White South Africa if they tried.

First off, asshole - I'm not jewish. Second, like azerbaijan israel could expel/deport EVERY single arab muslim today if it wanted, suffer a few years of economic sanctions, and then everything would revert back to normal, and not care one bit. I laugh at turds like this with their declarations: "the arab street will be AFLAME!" every time the US or Israel acts - yet it never happens. Go back to stormfront, you fucking turd.

Reading comprehension, remember?
You're not the Jew.
You are the psychotic, pathic bitch.
Even a devout dummy like yourself should be able to figure out the likely response if Israel tried to transfer millions of Arabs out of Palestine today.
Have someone read this to you.
2006 Lebanon War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Devout Dummy claims Israel hasn't conquered anything since 1943.
Is that right?
When did the Jewish state first lurch into existence?
1948.
Maybe you would be more effective posting in Hebrew?

 

[Kondor3]

I'll keep it simple, Stupid:

The mentally ill trash again avoids the facts that destroy her claim, and she then reverts to personal insults to try and deflect from her failures.

Let's go back a step: the turd claims that Israel has a massive, all -powerful army, that is allowing it to "genocide" the arabs in the west bank and gaza.

The FACTS: In SEVENTY YEARS, the israelis have not "conquered" anything, and the arab population has not only massively increased, it enjoys the highest quality of life of any arab muslim country.

This forum really, really needs intelligent posters defending the arabs - the ones it has right now with this moron, pf tin-idiot, etc., are incapable of defending the arab side with any.



And the fact that the so-called "democratically-elected" arab muslim regime in gaza is at war with israel has nothing to do with that, idiot?

Psychotic Jews and their US bitches (like you) lack the guts to cleanse Gaza today as they did Palestine 65 years ago because the world is watching and Israel, as a Jewish state, would go the way of White South Africa if they tried.

First off, asshole - I'm not jewish. Second, like azerbaijan israel could expel/deport EVERY single arab muslim today if it wanted, suffer a few years of economic sanctions, and then everything would revert back to normal, and not care one bit. I laugh at turds like this with their declarations: "the arab street will be AFLAME!" every time the US or Israel acts - yet it never happens. Go back to stormfront, you fucking turd.

Reading comprehension, remember?
You're not the Jew.
You are the psychotic, pathic bitch.
Even a devout dummy like yourself should be able to figure out the likely response if Israel tried to transfer millions of Arabs out of Palestine today.
Have someone read this to you.
2006 Lebanon War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Devout Dummy claims Israel hasn't conquered anything since 1943.
Is that right?
When did the Jewish state first lurch into existence?
1948.
Maybe you would be more effective posting in Hebrew?

Next-to-nothing would happen if the Israelis decided to expel all the Palestinians of either the West Bank or Gaza - especially Gaza - that Neanderthal collection of mad dogs.

Egypt is incapable of making effective war on Israel - at present and for a long time.

Syria is incapable of making effective war on Israel - at present and for a long time.

Iraq is incapable of making effective war on Israel - at present and for a long time.

Libya is incapable of making effective war on Israel - at present and for a long time.

Lebanon is incapable of making effective war on Israel - at present and for a long time.

Jordan will keep its mouth shut and accept the refugees rather than go to war again.

NATO sure-as-hell isn't going to go to war with Israel over the mad-dog Palestinians.

The UN is a toothless old lady's debating society and will be impotent in this matter.

Nobody is going to go to war with Israel if they decide to clean-out that nest of vipers in Gaza.

Hell, the Egyptians know they're mad dogs, and are joined with Israel in the Gaza Blockade.

The Muslim world won't do shit, other than launch a few terror attacks and piss and moan and wave their toy-store swords.

The rest of the world doesn't care enough about the Palestinians to step-in, either, so long as they're merely expelled rather than exterminated.

Nobody cares enough to go to war with Israel over the dumb-asses in Hamas and the idiots who voted them in.

At least not beyond a few months or a couple of years of economic sanctions or real boycott, which the Israelis could weather with very little inconvenience...

Our colleague 'rhodescholar' is quite probably and entirely correct, based upon history of the past several decades, the current state of neighboring Arab countries, and the continuously-shrinking parcels of land that make up what's left of Rump Palestine.

 

[peach174]

"The Al Mezan Center for Human Rights also blames Israel for supposedly opening up a dam in order to flood poor Gazans during torrential rains last week:
"For the second time in the past ten years, at approximately 6pm on Monday 18 January 2010, Israel opened the floodgates of one of the dams in the Gaza Valley..."

Now, can you tell us how many dams Israel controls in the Gaza Valley?

Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News: I found the "dam!"

There are four or five and all are reservoirs not dams. They don't have flood gates and none of the them are big enough to flood the cities of Gaza.

Google Map
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Isra...sspn=12.47589,26.784668&hnear=Israel&t=m&z=12

How did you manage to distinguish the number of reservoirs from dams, count the number of floodgates, and determine they lacked sufficient volume to flood Gaza from the map you linked to?

NONE of them are dams, they are all reservoirs.
Google Earth Deir el-Balch where they claim that Israel flooded that city.
Notice the nearest body of water, which is a reservoir not a dam. zoom in. There are no floodgates in that nearest body of water.
Download Google Earth and type in the city of Deir el-Balch.
Find out for yourself.

 

[georgephillip]

There are four or five and all are reservoirs not dams. They don't have flood gates and none of the them are big enough to flood the cities of Gaza.

Google Map
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Isra...sspn=12.47589,26.784668&hnear=Israel&t=m&z=12

How did you manage to distinguish the number of reservoirs from dams, count the number of floodgates, and determine they lacked sufficient volume to flood Gaza from the map you linked to?

NONE of them are dams, they are all reservoirs.
Google Earth Deir el-Balch where they claim that Israel flooded that city.
Notice the nearest body of water, which is a reservoir not a dam. zoom in. There are no floodgates in that nearest body of water.
Download Google Earth and type in the city of Deir el-Balch.
Find out for yourself.

According to Nehemia Shahaf, an Israeli official responsible for the drainage system in that part of the Negev, there was a single dam near Tze'elim in Israel which had no gates and stood only one meter tall. Shahaf claims the flood waters were so high this particular dam couldn't stop them from reaching Gaza. I'm still not clear on how many other dams might be located in that general area; however, I haven't seen any credible pro-Palestinian sources offer any proof that Israel deliberately facilitated the recent flooding of Gaza.

 

[aris2chat]

Picture and map of the "dam" in question have been posted.

How did you manage to distinguish the number of reservoirs from dams, count the number of floodgates, and determine they lacked sufficient volume to flood Gaza from the map you linked to?

NONE of them are dams, they are all reservoirs.
Google Earth Deir el-Balch where they claim that Israel flooded that city.
Notice the nearest body of water, which is a reservoir not a dam. zoom in. There are no floodgates in that nearest body of water.
Download Google Earth and type in the city of Deir el-Balch.
Find out for yourself.

According to Nehemia Shahaf, an Israeli official responsible for the drainage system in that part of the Negev, there was a single dam near Tze'elim in Israel which had no gates and stood only one meter tall. Shahaf claims the flood waters were so high this particular dam couldn't stop them from reaching Gaza. I'm still not clear on how many other dams might be located in that general area; however, I haven't seen any credible pro-Palestinian sources offer any proof that Israel deliberately facilitated the recent flooding of Gaza.

 

[georgephillip]

The mentally ill trash again avoids the facts that destroy her claim, and she then reverts to personal insults to try and deflect from her failures.

Let's go back a step: the turd claims that Israel has a massive, all -powerful army, that is allowing it to "genocide" the arabs in the west bank and gaza.

The FACTS: In SEVENTY YEARS, the israelis have not "conquered" anything, and the arab population has not only massively increased, it enjoys the highest quality of life of any arab muslim country.

This forum really, really needs intelligent posters defending the arabs - the ones it has right now with this moron, pf tin-idiot, etc., are incapable of defending the arab side with any.



And the fact that the so-called "democratically-elected" arab muslim regime in gaza is at war with israel has nothing to do with that, idiot?



First off, asshole - I'm not jewish. Second, like azerbaijan israel could expel/deport EVERY single arab muslim today if it wanted, suffer a few years of economic sanctions, and then everything would revert back to normal, and not care one bit. I laugh at turds like this with their declarations: "the arab street will be AFLAME!" every time the US or Israel acts - yet it never happens. Go back to stormfront, you fucking turd.

Reading comprehension, remember?
You're not the Jew.
You are the psychotic, pathic bitch.
Even a devout dummy like yourself should be able to figure out the likely response if Israel tried to transfer millions of Arabs out of Palestine today.
Have someone read this to you.
2006 Lebanon War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Devout Dummy claims Israel hasn't conquered anything since 1943.
Is that right?
When did the Jewish state first lurch into existence?
1948.
Maybe you would be more effective posting in Hebrew?

Next-to-nothing would happen if the Israelis decided to expel all the Palestinians of either the West Bank or Gaza - especially Gaza - that Neanderthal collection of mad dogs.

Egypt is incapable of making effective war on Israel - at present and for a long time.

Syria is incapable of making effective war on Israel - at present and for a long time.

Iraq is incapable of making effective war on Israel - at present and for a long time.

Libya is incapable of making effective war on Israel - at present and for a long time.

Lebanon is incapable of making effective war on Israel - at present and for a long time.

Jordan will keep its mouth shut and accept the refugees rather than go to war again.

NATO sure-as-hell isn't going to go to war with Israel over the mad-dog Palestinians.

The UN is a toothless old lady's debating society and will be impotent in this matter.

Nobody is going to go to war with Israel if they decide to clean-out that nest of vipers in Gaza.

Hell, the Egyptians know they're mad dogs, and are joined with Israel in the Gaza Blockade.

The Muslim world won't do shit, other than launch a few terror attacks and piss and moan and wave their toy-store swords.

The rest of the world doesn't care enough about the Palestinians to step-in, either, so long as they're merely expelled rather than exterminated.

Nobody cares enough to go to war with Israel over the dumb-asses in Hamas and the idiots who voted them in.

At least not beyond a few months or a couple of years of economic sanctions or real boycott, which the Israelis could weather with very little inconvenience...

Our colleague 'rhodescholar' is quite probably and entirely correct, based upon history of the past several decades, the current state of neighboring Arab countries, and the continuously-shrinking parcels of land that make up what's left of Rump Palestine.

Your colleague rhodescholar is quite probably (not to mention entirely) one of the least credible posters I've come across in the four years I've been here. Look at its signature if you're still confused.

Even if your heroic Jew had the guts to attempt to transfer millions of indigenous Palestinians from their lands the world would hardly have to resort to bloodshed to stop them.

The EU alone could bring squeals from the porkers in Tel Aviv, London, and New York:

"Steps by European companies and governments to restrict business with West Bank settlements are rekindling longstanding fears in Israel of a broader economic boycott over its treatment of the Palestinians.

"After facing criticism from activist groups in the Netherlands, Vitens, the Dutch drinking-water company, said this week that it was cutting ties with Mekorot, Israel’s national water company, because it had business in the occupied West Bank.

"Separately, UK Trade & Investment, the business promotion body, published guidance last week warning companies of the risks of doing business with Israeli settlements, including 'legal and economic risks' and 'potential reputational implications'.

"This week it also emerged that Romania had stopped sending construction workers to Israel if it does not receive a guarantee that they will not work in the West Bank.

"The moves followed recently issued European Union guidelines prohibiting the awarding of EU grants, loans or prizes to Israeli entities on occupied Palestinian lands. The Palestinians have also been pressing European governments to instruct their companies not to do business in the settlements, which are illegal under international law.

European moves against settlements revive Israel boycott fears | BDSmovement.net

Would you care to hazard a guess about how world-wide public opinion would divide if Jews began the mass expulsion of millions of indigenous Palestinians from Palestine in 2014?

 

[Billo_Really]

Seriously, Georgie - do you imagine that calling others names is going to enhance your arguments? How does that work: is it some Marxist dialectic magic?

You call George out on the name-calling, but say nothing about rhodescholar's foul mouth.

You're something else, dude.

 

[Kondor3]

"...Your colleague rhodescholar is quite probably (not to mention entirely) one of the least credible posters I've come across in the four years I've been here. Look at its signature if you're still confused..."

Our colleague can defend herself. Your opinion of her credibility does not impair her ability to convey her thoughts nor for others to perceive some of those as credible.

"...Even if your heroic Jew had the guts to attempt to transfer millions of indigenous Palestinians from their lands the world would hardly have to resort to bloodshed to stop them..."

If they take that approach the whole thing will be wrapped up in a matter of weeks and 'the world' will be swinging after the bell has rung.

"...The EU alone could bring squeals from the porkers in Tel Aviv, London, and New York:..."

Porkers? Jews = Pigs? I'm sure a few of our Jewish colleagues will be along soon enough to invite you to go pound sand.

Meanwhile...

So-called EU sanctions against Israeli companies operating in the West Bank are imperfectly fashioned and inconsistently applied; a bone tossed to the Arabs to keep the oil flowing; destined to wither on the vine after a brief appearance.

There are a thousand-and-one ways for the Israelis to get around pissant sanctions by the EU, the United States will get the EU to back off (if not now, once Obama leaves office) and in the meantime the US will make-good on any deficiencies using your tax dollars.

If the Jews of Israel decide to evict and expel the Palestinians - or even just the Gazans - the workd will piss and moan for a few months and then it's back to business as usual.

Nobody cares enough about the mad-dog Palestinians to do any more than that.

Business is business.

 

[georgephillip]

"...Your colleague rhodescholar is quite probably (not to mention entirely) one of the least credible posters I've come across in the four years I've been here. Look at its signature if you're still confused..."

Our colleague can defend herself. Your opinion of her credibility does not impair her ability to convey her thoughts nor for others to perceive some of those as credible.

"...Even if your heroic Jew had the guts to attempt to transfer millions of indigenous Palestinians from their lands the world would hardly have to resort to bloodshed to stop them..."

If they take that approach the whole thing will be wrapped up in a matter of weeks and 'the world' will be swinging after the bell has rung.

"...The EU alone could bring squeals from the porkers in Tel Aviv, London, and New York:..."

Porkers? Jews = Pigs? I'm sure a few of our Jewish colleagues will be along soon enough to invite you to go pound sand.

Meanwhile...

So-called EU sanctions against Israeli companies operating in the West Bank are imperfectly fashioned and inconsistently applied; a bone tossed to the Arabs to keep the oil flowing; destined to wither on the vine after a brief appearance.

There are a thousand-and-one ways for the Israelis to get around pissant sanctions by the EU, the United States will get the EU to back off (if not now, once Obama leaves office) and in the meantime the US will make-good on any deficiencies using your tax dollars.

If the Jews of Israel decide to evict and expel the Palestinians - or even just the Gazans - the workd will piss and moan for a few months and then it's back to business as usual.

Nobody cares enough about the mad-dog Palestinians to do any more than that.

Business is business.

How many weeks will be required to ethnically cleanse Palestine of millions of Arabs?
More or less than the amount required to occupy Lebanon as far as the Litani river?

 

[rhodescholar]

Reading comprehension, remember? You're not the Jew.
You are the psychotic, pathic bitch.Even a devout dummy like yourself should be able to figure out the likely response if Israel tried to transfer millions of Arabs out of Palestine today. Have someone read this to you.
2006 Lebanon War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Devout Dummy claims Israel hasn't conquered anything since 1943.
Is that right?When did the Jewish state first lurch into existence?1948.
Maybe you would be more effective posting in Hebrew?

Mentally ill idiot is getting angry since she's so easily destroyed - and knows we are right - israel could deport 4 million arab muslims TODAY and there is not a single thing the arab filth could do to stop it.

1943, turd? Where did that come from, idiot?

 

[rhodescholar]

however, I haven't seen any credible pro-Palestinian sources offer any proof that Israel deliberately facilitated the recent flooding of Gaza.

So are you going to retract your moronic claim, or are just too stupid to do so?

 

[rhodescholar]

Your colleague rhodescholar is quite probably (not to mention entirely) one of the least credible posters I've come across in the four years I've been here.

Who regularly humiliates you on every topic you post on.

Even if your heroic Jew had the guts to attempt to transfer millions of indigenous Palestinians from their lands the world would hardly have to resort to bloodshed to stop them.

LOL, the chimp is still claiming "the arab street will be aflame"...yeah, you made that claim after afghanistan and iraq, how'd that work out for you, baghdad bob? Was every american blown up in their tank the way you claimed, chimp?

The EU alone could bring squeals from the porkers in Tel Aviv, London, and New York:

Too funny - israel's trade with asia and elsewhere grows every day, and the EU has been trying to force israel to do things for decades with no success. Not even Turkey wants to join the irrelevent EU anymore. Try facts for a change, chimp.

Would you care to hazard a guess about how world-wide public opinion would divide if Jews began the mass expulsion of millions of indigenous Palestinians from Palestine in 2014?

No more than the turds like you whining about assad's mass ethnic cleansing in syria - not a peep. It must really suck to be a loser like you, on the losing side of every debate.

 

[georgephillip]

however, I haven't seen any credible pro-Palestinian sources offer any proof that Israel deliberately facilitated the recent flooding of Gaza.

So fuckbrain, are you going to retract your moronic claim, or are just too stupid to do so?

What "claim" do you "think" I made?
I asked a question, and so far the evidence indicates its answer is "no."
'Jew know????

 

[Samson]

See if you can stay on topic this time

"Gaza officials blamed Israel for the flooding, saying it caused Wadi Gaza to overflow and flood residential neighborhoods by opening dams outside the Strip. Palestinian sources said these dams normally keep the water level in Gaza low.

Nehemia Shahaf, the Israeli municipal official responsible for the drainage system in part of the northern Negev, said there was one dam in the area, a one-meter cement structure in the Tze’elim area that directs water to a reservoir in Israeli territory, but that it could not be opened or closed. Shahaf said the water level was so high that the dam couldn’t stop it from reaching Gaza."

Gaza floods, thousands evacuated - but get reprieve from blackouts - National Israel News | Haaretz

Why, Mr. George, they blame the Jews for everything, even if there happens to be an earthquake. In many incidents here in the U.S. dams have been opened because the levels have been so high as a result of heavy rains and dams have even overflowed. Did the levees protect everyone during Katrina? Some times dams manage to collapse. What do you think happened to the Baldwin Hills Dam where people are gathering on the 50th anniversary of that catastrophe. Did you blame the Jews for that too when you were a kid?

Jews weren't occupying Baldwin Hills fifty years ago.
Jews are the Occupying Power in Gaza and they are responsible for things like opening dam gates in order to flush as many Arabs as possible into the Mediterranean. Something all good hasbara would endorse, right?

The plan was to flood the tunnels full of contraban weapons.

Pretty smart.

 

[Shaarona]

however, I haven't seen any credible pro-Palestinian sources offer any proof that Israel deliberately facilitated the recent flooding of Gaza.

So fuckbrain, are you going to retract your moronic claim, or are just too stupid to do so?

That's some language for a woman.

 

[georgephillip]

Reading comprehension, remember? You're not the Jew.
You are the psychotic, pathic bitch.Even a devout dummy like yourself should be able to figure out the likely response if Israel tried to transfer millions of Arabs out of Palestine today. Have someone read this to you.
2006 Lebanon War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Devout Dummy claims Israel hasn't conquered anything since 1943.
Is that right?When did the Jewish state first lurch into existence?1948.
Maybe you would be more effective posting in Hebrew?

Mentally ill idiot is getting angry since she's so easily destroyed - and knows we are right - israel could deport 4 million arab muslims TODAY and there is not a single thing the arab filth could do to stop it.

1943, turd? Where did that come from, idiot?

Check out Post #80, J'Bitch.
The one where you claimed Jews hadn't conquered anything in 70 years...
Then see if you can manage the math.
BTW, Zio-trash, if Israel tried to transfer 4 million Arabs from Palestine, 40 million protesters would fill the streets around the planet. How many would support Israel? Only a few pathic Jew-first fucks like you.

 

[georgephillip]

Why, Mr. George, they blame the Jews for everything, even if there happens to be an earthquake. In many incidents here in the U.S. dams have been opened because the levels have been so high as a result of heavy rains and dams have even overflowed. Did the levees protect everyone during Katrina? Some times dams manage to collapse. What do you think happened to the Baldwin Hills Dam where people are gathering on the 50th anniversary of that catastrophe. Did you blame the Jews for that too when you were a kid?

Jews weren't occupying Baldwin Hills fifty years ago.
Jews are the Occupying Power in Gaza and they are responsible for things like opening dam gates in order to flush as many Arabs as possible into the Mediterranean. Something all good hasbara would endorse, right?

The plan was to flood the tunnels full of contraban weapons.

Pretty smart.

Egyptians thought of that plan first.
I hope you're not suggesting Egyptians are smarter than Jews?

 

[Indeependent]

Reading comprehension, remember? You're not the Jew.
You are the psychotic, pathic bitch.Even a devout dummy like yourself should be able to figure out the likely response if Israel tried to transfer millions of Arabs out of Palestine today. Have someone read this to you.
2006 Lebanon War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Devout Dummy claims Israel hasn't conquered anything since 1943.
Is that right?When did the Jewish state first lurch into existence?1948.
Maybe you would be more effective posting in Hebrew?

Mentally ill idiot is getting angry since she's so easily destroyed - and knows we are right - israel could deport 4 million arab muslims TODAY and there is not a single thing the arab filth could do to stop it.

1943, turd? Where did that come from, idiot?

OMG! You are busting my gut!
You are proof that facts can be hilarious!

 

[docmauser1]

BTW, Zio-trash, if Israel tried to transfer 4 million Arabs from Palestine, 40 million protesters would fill the streets around the planet.

And none of those street-fillers actually cares about palistanians anyway, of course.

 

[Kondor3]

"...How many weeks will be required to ethnically cleanse Palestine of millions of Arabs? More or less than the amount required to occupy Lebanon as far as the Litani river?"

You keep clinging to the stalemate of 2006 in Lebanon as some kind of 'Turning of the Tide'. Only in your dreams, I'm afraid. Hezbollah had improved its training and weapons and surprised the IDF folk. They won't make that mistake again, nor will they cripple their forces next time with impractical fire-mission constraints re: civilian casualties.

And Hamas iin Gaza is nowhere near as good as Hezbollah; even with the bar set low for Hezbollah in comparison to the Syrian or Jordanian or Iraqi or Egyptian armed forces.

And, to answer your question of 'how many weeks' to implement?

It all depends on how much advance warning they give the population to clear out, and the extent of the firepower they choose to bring to bear on the day after the warning-period expires, and whether they just go in and level the place, eh?