"Israel Made the Desert Bloom" is a Myth, They Stole the Land from Farmers Who Were Already There for Hundreds of Years

[Zebra]

Israelis made the desert bloom!

 

[Dogmaphobe]

munkle knows nothing of Israel.

And gets all his talking points from hate sites

 

[Grau]

jews have been here for thousands of yrs,,

Prove it.

 

[progressive hunter]

Prove it.

the archeological finds prove it,,

 

[Grau]

the archeological finds prove it,,

You clearly don't know about the much earlier finds frequently destroyed by Zionist vandals posing as "archeologists".

Read and learn.

 

[progressive hunter]

You clearly don't know about the much earlier finds frequently destroyed by Zionist vandals posing as "archeologists".

Read and learn.

prove one,,

 

[Grau]

prove one,,

As you said, " The archeological finds prove it."

 

[toomuchtime_]

Even pro-Israel Wikipeadia acknowledges it. The biggest lie of all the many lies is that all the poor European Jews wanted was a little place to call their own, so they took a barren desert and make it bloom. Total complete horseshit.

Olive trees take decades to bear their best fruit. So when you cut down a Palestinian family's olive trees your are cutting down their main means of support which takes generations to nurture.

Okay maybe there is nothing we can do about it but we can dispense with the bullshit lies. It's a land grab. Period. nB4 I knock on your door and say you gotta leave because God gave your house to me.

1948 Palestinian expulsion and flight - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"In the 1948 Palestine war, more than 700,000 Palestinian Arabs – about half of Mandatory Palestine's predominantly Arab population – fled from their homes or were expelled. Expulsions and attacks against Palestinians were carried out by the Zionist paramilitaries Haganah, Irgun, and Lehi, which merged to become the Israel Defense Forces after the establishment of Israel part way through the war.[a] The expulsion and flight was a central component of the fracturing, dispossession, and displacement of Palestinian society, known as the Nakba.[4] Dozens of massacres targeting Arabs were conducted by Israeli military forces and between 400 and 600 Palestinian villages were destroyed. Village wells were poisoned in a biological warfare programme and properties were looted to prevent Palestinian refugees from returning.[5][6] Other sites were subject to Hebraization of Palestinian place names."





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Both the Ottoman Empire and the British Empire kept careful records of land ownership and neither have records of any land being stolen from Arabs by Jews at least until 1948 when the British left, so there is no basis in fact for your allegation that Arabs had been victimized by the Jewish migration to Palestine.
There are records of Jewish organizations buying large tracts of land from wealthy Arab families and of these Jewish organizations compensating Arab workers who lost their means of livelihood because of these sales despite the fact that they were not legally compelled to.

Similarly, there are no records of Jewish efforts to ethnically cleanse Arabs from the land, but there are records of Arabs ethnically cleansing Jews from communities that had existed since biblical times.

You are trying to paint a picture of the Arabs as victims and the Jews as aggressors, but as I have pointed out, there is no basis in fact for these allegations. The cause of the conflict is the 7th century edict that Jews, Christians, Zoroastrians and members of other monotheistic religions were to be 2nd class citizens, subject to a special set of rules aimed at showing they were inferior to Muslims and subject to special taxes. For the last 1400 years all Jews that lived in Muslim lands were subject to these rules and taxes but this new wave of migrants to Palestine refused to abide by them, and that led the Arabs to make war against them. The Arabs have not been victims, they have been failed aggressors.

 

[progressive hunter]

As you said, " The archeological finds prove it."

it proves jews are the original inhabitants,, or at least the oldest proven ones,,

 

[Hector12]

Both the Ottoman Empire and the British Empire kept careful records of land ownership and neither have records of any land being stolen from Arabs by Jews at least until 1948 when the British left, so there is no basis in fact for your allegation that Arabs had been victimized by the Jewish migration to Palestine.
There are records of Jewish organizations buying large tracts of land from wealthy Arab families and of these Jewish organizations compensating Arab workers who lost their means of livelihood because of these sales despite the fact that they were not legally compelled to.

Similarly, there are no records of Jewish efforts to ethnically cleanse Arabs from the land, but there are records of Arabs ethnically cleansing Jews from communities that had existed since biblical times.

You are trying to paint a picture of the Arabs as victims and the Jews as aggressors, but as I have pointed out, there is no basis in fact for these allegations. The cause of the conflict is the 7th century edict that Jews, Christians, Zoroastrians and members of other monotheistic religions were to be 2nd class citizens, subject to a special set of rules aimed at showing they were inferior to Muslims and subject to special taxes. For the last 1400 years all Jews that lived in Muslim lands were subject to these rules and taxes but this new wave of migrants to Palestine refused to abide by them, and that led the Arabs to make war against them. The Arabs have not been victims, they have been failed aggressors.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

You clearly don't know about the much earlier finds frequently destroyed by Zionist vandals posing as "archeologists".

Read and learn.

Grow up.

 

[Grau]

Grow up.

Try again when you can better defend blatant and internationally condemned Zionist genocide.

Maybe if your pampered posterior had ever seen the world or experienced adversity you wouldn't gleefully support the torturous Zionist genocide opposed by loyal and educated Americans.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The killing by the IDF and Hamas are beyond the bar.

Both sides need to labeled illegal military organizations.

They need to stand down.

Anyone who refuses needs to be shot through the forehead.

 

[Grau]

it proves jews are the original inhabitants,, or at least the oldest proven ones,,

Which "Jews"?

If you had ever studied Ancient Middle Eastern history you wouldn't make such a stupid claim.

Look up and study the Natufians, for example:


"Forgotten Civilizations of the Holy Land"


EXCERPT "The 3rd millennium BCE Levantine civilizations that rivaled the greatness of Egypt and Mesopotamia. Historians have long considered the Levant, also known as Syria-Palestine, a land bridge connecting the older and more important civilizations of Mesopotamia and Egypt.

We'll look at the recent archaeological finds which suggest the inhabitants of this region --known as Natufians-- developed pre-neolithic permanent settlements that may be the earliest in the world. Overtime, these sites grew into great cities at the centre of great civilizations, most notably Ebla, considered by some the first recorded world power, and its rival Mari." CONTINUED

Next, read and learn instead of parroting Zionist propaganda:

"The Canaanites, Hittites, Hivites, Perizzites, Girgashites, Amorites, and Jebusites"

Topical Bible: The Canaanites, Hittites, Hivites, Perizzites, Girgashites, Amorites, and Jebusites

EXCERPT "The Canaanites, Hittites, Hivites, Perizzites, Girgashites, Amorites, and Jebusites are frequently mentioned in the Old Testament as the inhabitants of the land of Canaan before the arrival of the Israelites. These groups are often collectively referred to as the "nations" or "peoples" that occupied the Promised Land, which God pledged to the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob." CONTINUED


Finally, the ruling Zionists destroy evidence of earlier civilizations to solidify their self serving "God gave it to me." myth:


"Israel Is Using Archeology To Erase Non-Jewish History"

Opinion | Israel Is Using Archeology To Erase Non-Jewish History

Israel's claiming sovereignty based on archaeological finds isn't a reflection of Jerusalem's multi-cultural archaeological reality.

forward.com

EXCERPT "The fact that both sides engage in archaeological warfare doesn’t mean the playing field is level. Israel controls the Historic Basin and the quantity of ancient sites under its auspices give it the capacity to shape the historic city.

Moreover, archaeology in Israel has always been linked to the project of nation building. The historian Amos Elon once commented that Israeli archaeologists do not only dig for knowledge and objects, but for a reassurance of their roots." CONTINUED

 

[Grau]

prove one,,

Please see my Post # 34 of this thread.

 

[Hector12]

Try again when you can better defend blatant and internationally condemned Zionist genocide.

Maybe if your pampered posterior had ever seen the world or experienced adversity you wouldn't gleefully support the torturous Zionist genocide opposed by loyal and educated Americans.

The Israelis have the right to do what they need to do to survive in Israel. The Palestinians have had plenty of time to leave.

 

[progressive hunter]

Which "Jews"?

If you had ever studied Ancient Middle Eastern history you wouldn't make such a stupid claim.

Look up and study the Natufians, for example:


"Forgotten Civilizations of the Holy Land"


EXCERPT "The 3rd millennium BCE Levantine civilizations that rivaled the greatness of Egypt and Mesopotamia. Historians have long considered the Levant, also known as Syria-Palestine, a land bridge connecting the older and more important civilizations of Mesopotamia and Egypt.

We'll look at the recent archaeological finds which suggest the inhabitants of this region --known as Natufians-- developed pre-neolithic permanent settlements that may be the earliest in the world. Overtime, these sites grew into great cities at the centre of great civilizations, most notably Ebla, considered by some the first recorded world power, and its rival Mari." CONTINUED

Next, read and learn instead of parroting Zionist propaganda:

"The Canaanites, Hittites, Hivites, Perizzites, Girgashites, Amorites, and Jebusites"

Topical Bible: The Canaanites, Hittites, Hivites, Perizzites, Girgashites, Amorites, and Jebusites

EXCERPT "The Canaanites, Hittites, Hivites, Perizzites, Girgashites, Amorites, and Jebusites are frequently mentioned in the Old Testament as the inhabitants of the land of Canaan before the arrival of the Israelites. These groups are often collectively referred to as the "nations" or "peoples" that occupied the Promised Land, which God pledged to the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob." CONTINUED


Finally, the ruling Zionists destroy evidence of earlier civilizations to solidify their self serving "God gave it to me." myth:


"Israel Is Using Archeology To Erase Non-Jewish History"

Opinion | Israel Is Using Archeology To Erase Non-Jewish History

Israel's claiming sovereignty based on archaeological finds isn't a reflection of Jerusalem's multi-cultural archaeological reality.

forward.com

EXCERPT "The fact that both sides engage in archaeological warfare doesn’t mean the playing field is level. Israel controls the Historic Basin and the quantity of ancient sites under its auspices give it the capacity to shape the historic city.

Moreover, archaeology in Israel has always been linked to the project of nation building. The historian Amos Elon once commented that Israeli archaeologists do not only dig for knowledge and objects, but for a reassurance of their roots." CONTINUED

jews are jews,,

 

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[cnm]

The killing by the IDF and Hamas are beyond the bar.

Both sides need to labeled illegal military organizations.

They need to stand down.

Anyone who refuses needs to be shot through the forehead.

Americans love that 'both sides' bullshit even when it is obvious one side is an egregious offender.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Americans love that 'both sides' bullshit even when it is obvious one side is an egregious offender.

Hamas, yes, oh yes, is an offender.