cnm, et al,
I would invite you to revisit this.
Clearly, there are those that will never be convinced differently. And while many continue to argue with them for peace solutions, there are those for which clearly — oppose sovereign equality, the principle of equal rights and self-determination, and political independence. They will never be convinced unless they are held the exception.
Clearly, there are those that claim they are above concept of settling disputes by peaceful means; and promote conflict as the preferred means of resolution.
cnm said:
Which parts of not destroying Arab villages in Israel and ceasing to blockade and occupy Palestinian territory, among other things, escaped your attention?
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It is rather absurd for the Hostile Arab Palestinian to assume that they can engage in a one-sided Jihad, Deadly Fedayeen Action, a series of Hostile Insurgency Operations, Radicalized Islamic Behaviors, and Asymmetric Acts of Violence — AND NOT — suffer any retaliation; or PAY THE PRICE for ignoring the general accepted Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States.
There is no reason to assume that Israel will adopt the most effective and practical measures for the prevention of the acts of Jihad, Deadly Fedayeen Action, Hostile Insurgency Operations, Radicalized Islamic Behaviors, and Asymmetric Violence directed against the nation of Israel or its citizens, just as any other nation might respond. IT IS more reasonable to assume that Israel will pursue a course of action for the prosecution and punishment of their perpetrators — and — the nation and leadership and citizenry that support such act.
IF the family, the farm, the people the business/corporation (etc, etc, etc) are found in material support of the Jihadist, Deadly Fedayeen, Hostile Insurgents, Radicalized Islamists, and Asymmetric Fighters, they should not assume it will not come under destruction when a significant military objectives or advantage is involved.
cnm said:
And you seem surprised Israel is regarded as a pariah nation.
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“Pariah” (or outcast) is just a word used to invoke diplomatic and social trauma on a people that have throughout history been outcasts, victims to the pillage and plundering by nearly the entire civilized world, subjected to the religious torture, persecution and murder throughout the Catholic Inquisition, suffering the mass expulsion as a people all across Europe, — and — later herded by the millions into death camps. Today those same civilizations and more — claim the moral right and have the audacity to call the Jewish people the “Pariah.” I suppose you will not be surprised if the “Pariah” finally stands-up for itself and establishes it safe haven to protect themselves against all those civilized countries of the world that leave them in the hands of people that wold further persecute them in the name of their religion and deity (PBUH).
Today, the big plan being pushed like a hungry used car salesman is the Saudi Plan (Arab Peace Initiative) based on the Arab and Palestinian interpretation of UN Resolutions 242 and 338. It is a two-fold plan:
• To basically a set-up Israelis to abandon their practical defensive perimeter to indefensible positions so that the Arab League may once again mount an attack on Israel.
• To initially recover territorial losses from previous acts of aggression such that the Arab suffer no penalty for their violations of international law.
•To set the conditions to plunder the wealth of the Jewish People, the most developed country in the entire regions and replace it with leaders that have proven themselves total losers in the past.
The incentive for Israel — “full diplomatic and normal relations” with the entire Arab World, in exchange for a “comprehensive peace agreement” with the Palestinians.
The Saudi Plan suggests that it holds the "respect for the right of every state in the area to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries.” Who actually believes that? While it is possible that it is true — there is no past history that suggest that.
Withdrawal to the pre-1967 Lines is actually the withdrawal to the 1949 Armistice Lines; which as you know was never intended to be permanent boundaries.
Finally, the rub to this all is that it makes the salacious assumption that the principle responsibility for peace rests with the Israelis; as if the Israelis took control of the West Bank and Gaza Strip from the Hostile Arab Palestinians. Nothing could be further from the truth.
• The West Bank was taken from the Jordan after Jordan opens fire on Israeli Territory in 1967.
• The Gaza Strip was taken from Egyptian Military Control after Egypt pushed the UN Emergency Force (Peace Keepers) out of the way under the threat of force, and moved 100,000 troops and a 1000 tanks right up to the Israeli Border. A clear intent to incite and incident; which it did.
The Arab Palestinians had no real political involvement in the basic issues. They were not party to the conflict. Nor were they recognized under the Vienna Convention as being competent to be a party to a treaty.
In fact, in 1967, there was no formed Provisional Government that represented the Palestinian People. And even today, the question of the sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian People remains a question.
Most Respectfully,
R