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Israel is a Settler Colonialism Enterprise - Prove it

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Racially, the Palestinians May Be the Real Jews ...
Dec 06, 2020 · The irony, as Israel’s first Prime Minister David Ben Gurion and its second President Yitzhak ben Zvi accepted, is that the Palestinians, not the Jewish settlers, are the descendants of the ancient Hebrews. [see e.g. Dov Ivri’s Most Palestinians Are Descendants Of Jews]. Ben Gurion even sent Moshe Dayan with a rabbi to convert the Bedouin!
You get this article from a blogger. Have you done the homework of checking who Tony Greenstein is, and what his credentials are as a Historian, DNA researcher or anything else?

THIS is Tony Greenstein:

Tony Greenstein is a Jewish anti-Zionist and a founding member of Palestine Solidarity Campaign and Jews for Boycotting Israeli Goods.

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---------In other words......he has every reason to say anything which goes against the truth of the Hashkenazi Jews and the Palestinians.

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In 2013, Greenstein was secretary of the Brighton and Hove Unemployed Workers Centre, a community centre in Hollingdean.[2][3] He was a founder member of the Palestine Solidarity Campaign and in the 1980s, he ran the Labour Movement Campaign for Palestine.[4][5] In 2005, he stood unsuccessfully for parliament in the Brighton Pavilion constituency for the Alliance for Green Socialism, getting 188 votes.[6]

Greenstein was barred from joining the Labour Party in 2015 and then joined after the election of Jeremy Corbyn as leader.[7]He was suspended in 2016 regarding accusations of antisemitism and then expelled in February 2018 after a review by Labour's National Constitutional Committee.[8] In 2019, Greenstein sued the Campaign Against Antisemitism for libel over its claim that he was a "notorious antisemite".[9] The High Court dismissed the claim in 2020.[10] Greenstein had previously co-founded Labour Against the Witchhunt and told a Jewish Voice for Labour meeting during the 2018 Labour Party Conferencethat charges of antisemitism in the UK Labour Party were designed to destabilise Corbyn.


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“Three Lord and Lady Justices sitting at the Court of Appeal have dismissed an appeal by Tony Greenstein against aspects of a High Court ruling, deciding in favour of Campaign Against Antisemitism,” said the group.

“The High Court had struck out Mr Greenstein’s libel claims against us, ruling that it was permissible for us to call him a “notorious antisemite” in articles on our website, in an example of litigation humiliatingly backfiring.”

Greenstein had appealed on grounds that the CAA’s references to his spent convictions was made in malice, a claim which was rejected by the Court of Appeal.

Judges ruled that among other reasons it was acceptable to include the spent convictions because “the law has long recognised that it is only fair for someone to know the character of a person who is attacking the character of another.”

Bankruptcy proceedings have been issued against Greenstein by the group, which is seeking permission from the High Court for officials to seize his assets and pay the court costs from them.

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Tony Greenstein, a Jew Notoriously Antisemite


I rest my case.

 
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Do the proper research of each article, of each writer, each source.

I am not going to do it for you.
 
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Again, you do not read well:

The American archeologist Eric Cline reported in his book Jerusalem Besieged: “Although some would disagree, historians and archeologists have generally concluded that most, if not all, modern Palestinians are probably more closely related to the Arabs of Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Jordan, and other countries than they are to the ancient Jebusites, Canaanites, or Philistines. The major movements of those Arabs into the region occurred after 600 CE, more than 1,600 years after David and the Israelites had vanquished the original inhabitants of the land.” This fact is confirmed by Sherif Hussein, the Guardian of Islamic Holy Places of Arabia, who stated that the Palestinians ancestors had only been in the region for 1,000 years.

 
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Even the Bible says you're half brothers.
It does not.

And you insist in not showing the source.

Why, oh Why, Oh WhyO
 

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It does not.

And you insist in not showing the source.

Why, oh Why, Oh WhyO


Sure. Moses had an Arab wife named Zipporah. Abraham had an Egyptian wife named Hagar and an Arab wife named Keturah. He had 6 sons with Keturah.
 
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“If we investigate the origins of the Felahim [Palestinians], there is no doubt that much Jewish blood runs in their veins.”

-David Ben Gurion, (first) Prime Minister of Israel (1948 -1953, 1955 – 1963)
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What is the source for it? What year was it said? Are you sure that it does not mean that some Jews have married Arabs, especially in the 20th century, and therefore Jewish blood would be running in their veins, just as Arab blood would be running in their children's veins?


Depth of what words mean.

He clearly was not saying that Arab, not Palestinian, blood has been running in Jewish blood for 3000 years.
 
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Sure. Moses had an Arab wife named Zipporah. Abraham had an Egyptian wife named Hagar and an Arab wife named Keturah. He had 6 sons with Keturah.
Quit repeating this trash. You should be ashamed of yourself for insisting that Jews do not exist anymore, and that they are actually Arabs with all the indigenous rights the Jewish people would have to any part of the Jewish homeland.

Shame on you!!!
 

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Again, you do not read well:

The American archeologist Eric Cline reported in his book Jerusalem Besieged: “Although some would disagree, historians and archeologists have generally concluded that most, if not all, modern Palestinians are probably more closely related to the Arabs of Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Jordan, and other countries than they are to the ancient Jebusites, Canaanites, or Philistines. The major movements of those Arabs into the region occurred after 600 CE, more than 1,600 years after David and the Israelites had vanquished the original inhabitants of the land.” This fact is confirmed by Sherif Hussein, the Guardian of Islamic Holy Places of Arabia, who stated that the Palestinians ancestors had only been in the region for 1,000 years.


Your author is confusing Arabs with Muslims. That is a very stupid mistake for an historian to make.
 

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Much, much earlier Herodotus said Palestine was a province of Syria..
noun

a native or inhabitant of Palestine.

Also called Palestinian Arab. an Arab formerly living in Palestine who advocates the establishment of an Arab homeland there.

Palestinian Definition & Meaning | Dictionary.com

Palestine, area of the eastern Mediterranean region, comprising parts of modern Israel and the Palestinian territories of the Gaza Strip (along the coast of the Mediterranean Sea) and the West Bank (west of the Jordan River).

The term Palestine has been associated variously and sometimes controversially with this small region, which some have asserted also includes Jordan. Both the geographic area designated by the name and the political status of it have changed over the course of some three millennia.

The word Palestine derives from Philistia, the name given by Greek writers to the land of the Philistines,
who in the 12th century BCE occupied a small pocket of land on the southern coast, between modern Tel Aviv–Yafo and Gaza. The name was revived by the Romans in the 2nd century CE in “Syria Palaestina,”
Palestine | History, People, & Religion | Britannica
The Palestinian people also referred to as Palestinians or Palestinian Arabs are an ethnonational group comprising the modern descendants of the peoples who have lived in Palestine continuously over the centuries and who today are largely culturally and linguistically Arab.
Palestinians - Wikipedia

Pal•es•tin•i•an
1. a native or inhabitant of ancient or modern Palestine
.
2. an Arab born in Palestine or descended from Arabs of Palestine.
adj.
3. of or pertaining to Palestine or Palestinians.
Palestinians - definition of Palestinians by The Free Dictionary

Also called Ho·ly Land. Biblical name Canaan. an ancient country in southwest Asia, on the east coast of the Mediterranean.
Palestine Definition & Meaning | Dictionary.com
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Quit repeating this trash. You should be ashamed of yourself for insisting that Jews do not exist anymore, and that they are actually Arabs with all the indigenous rights the Jewish people would have to any part of the Jewish homeland.

Shame on you!!!

I have never said Jews do no exist. Clearly you do exist and you belong to the Jewish faith.
 

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noun

a native or inhabitant of Palestine.

Also called Palestinian Arab. an Arab formerly living in Palestine who advocates the establishment of an Arab homeland there.

Palestinian Definition & Meaning | Dictionary.com

Palestine, area of the eastern Mediterranean region, comprising parts of modern Israel and the Palestinian territories of the Gaza Strip (along the coast of the Mediterranean Sea) and the West Bank (west of the Jordan River).

The term Palestine has been associated variously and sometimes controversially with this small region, which some have asserted also includes Jordan. Both the geographic area designated by the name and the political status of it have changed over the course of some three millennia.

The word Palestine derives from Philistia, the name given by Greek writers to the land of the Philistines,
who in the 12th century BCE occupied a small pocket of land on the southern coast, between modern Tel Aviv–Yafo and Gaza. The name was revived by the Romans in the 2nd century CE in “Syria Palaestina,”
Palestine | History, People, & Religion | Britannica
The Palestinian people also referred to as Palestinians or Palestinian Arabs are an ethnonational group comprising the modern descendants of the peoples who have lived in Palestine continuously over the centuries and who today are largely culturally and linguistically Arab.
Palestinians - Wikipedia

Pal•es•tin•i•an
1. a native or inhabitant of ancient or modern Palestine
.
2. an Arab born in Palestine or descended from Arabs of Palestine.
adj.
3. of or pertaining to Palestine or Palestinians.
Palestinians - definition of Palestinians by The Free Dictionary

Also called Ho·ly Land. Biblical name Canaan. an ancient country in southwest Asia, on the east coast of the Mediterranean.
Palestine Definition & Meaning | Dictionary.com
Denial is not a river in Egypt
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Philistia is not associated with Palestine. Phillistines were sea people from some where in the Greek Islands. They settled the coastal region AFTER the Exodus.
 

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Jewish people would have to any part of the Jewish homeland.
There is no such thing as a Jewish “homeland”

(Gen 47:1 KJV) Then Joseph came and told Pharaoh, and said, My father [ISRAEL] and my brethren, and their flocks, and their herds, and all that they have, are come out of the land of Canaan; and, behold, they are in the land of Goshen.

(Gen 47:3 KJV)
And Pharaoh said unto his brethren, What is your occupation? And they said unto Pharaoh, Thy servants are shepherds, both we, and also our fathers.
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Philistia is not associated with Palestine.
Philistia was a confederation of cities of Sea Peoples in the Southwest Levant, which included the cities of Ashdod, Ashkelon, Ekron, Gath, Gaza and for a time Jaffa. It was populated by the Peleset or Philistines, who are believed to have been an Indo-European people who settled in Canaan around the year 1200 BC.
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Philistia was a confederation of cities of Sea Peoples in the Southwest Levant, which included the cities of Ashdod, Ashkelon, Ekron, Gath, Gaza and for a time Jaffa. It was populated by the Peleset or Philistines, who are believed to have been an Indo-European people who settled in Canaan around the year 1200 BC.
Wikipedia
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Exodus 13:17 mentions the Philistines but they weren't there at the time of the Exodus.

The Philistines lost their independence to Tiglath-Pileser III of Assyria by 732 BC, and revolts in following years were all crushed. Later, Nebuchadrezzar II of Babylon eventually conquered all of Syria and the Kingdom of Judah, and the former Philistine cities became part of the Neo-Babylonian Empire.
 
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Racially, the Palestinians May Be the Real Jews ...
Dec 06, 2020 · The irony, as Israel’s first Prime Minister David Ben Gurion and its second President Yitzhak ben Zvi accepted, is that the Palestinians, not the Jewish settlers, are the descendants of the ancient Hebrews. [see e.g. Dov Ivri’s Most Palestinians Are Descendants Of Jews]. Ben Gurion even sent Moshe Dayan with a rabbi to convert the Bedouin!

Most Palestinians Are Descendants Of Jews | Dov Ivry | The ...

Aug 21, 2016 · Most of what we now call “Palestinian Arabs” are descendants of Jews. Among the Bedouin that could reach 100 per cent. Ben-Gurion’s efforts didn’t go anywhere but give him credit for the ...


The subject says Most Palestinians, the article says SOME.

"If you add to that the fact that at least some of the Palestinian Arabs, who know that that their forebears are Jews, will want to rejoin their people, the demographic impediment to annexing Judea and Samaria is a chimera."

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Dov Ivry is a blogger. Not a historian or an archeologist, or DNA researcher.

He shows no sources at all to what he says at the top of the article but eventually writes that "some" Palestinian Arabs"........

And ends with the following:

No new legislation in the Knesset is required for annexation. A law passed in 1967 is already on the books. All the cabinet has to do is implement it.

What is the alternative? There is none. We’ve been “negotiating” for 23 years and haven’t got to first base. This is not going to change. They are never going to get part of our capital Jerusalem nor the Jordan Valley. They are not going to obtain a sovereign state, rather a demilitarized satrapy, without control of air space or borders. That’s not good enough for them. Meanwhile the people there live under a tyrannical regime in which the elites get rich off this charade and the poor get nothing but a high unemployment rate. Human rights are unknown. Once annexed, the people are liberated. They will be given democracy, with freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, habeas corpus, and also, not to be sneezed at, opportunity, because they will be able to work everywhere.

The ordinary people there have no voice. All you hear as you did in Europe under the Communists from their rulers is how wonderful things are and how everyone supports the regime. That wasn’t true there and it isn’t true in Judea and Samaria.

Citizenship will be open to anyone affirming allegiance to the State of Israel. In previous annexations in Jerusalem and the Golan Heights only a minority has take up the offer but these people see themselves as having options. In Judea and Samaria the only option will be to pay the taxes and enjoy the social benefits or just pay the taxes.

A major benefit to Israel through annexation is that it can outlaw membership in terrorist organizations such as Hamas and this will make it much easier to control terrorist activities.

I’ve got all the details, if I am permitted to say so, in this book, “Judea And Samaria: It’s Time To Annex.”

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You have not read the whole article and thought that he was anti Israel, and with the truth about "The Palestinians" being Jewish, or the original Jews, as you and others insist that the way to destroy Israel is to insist that Ashkenazi Jews converted to Judaism, that the Palestinian Arabs are the real indigenous Jews, and other fairy tales Jew haters can come up with.


It does not work.

Never will.
 
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Philistia is not associated with Palestine. Phillistines were sea people from some where in the Greek Islands. They settled the coastal region AFTER the Exodus.
They are the people Herodotus borrowed their word, to create the word Palestine in the 5th century BC.

Live with it.
 
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Exodus 13:17 mentions the Philistines but they weren't there at the time of the Exodus.

The Philistines lost their independence to Tiglath-Pileser III of Assyria by 732 BC, and revolts in following years were all crushed. Later, Nebuchadrezzar II of Babylon eventually conquered all of Syria and the Kingdom of Judah, and the former Philistine cities became part of the Neo-Babylonian Empire.
You have totally lost it.

The article I showed you shows that the reason Herodotus named the coastal area of the land, Palestine, was because the Philistines had lived there.

Being both of Greek origin, he was curious about their history.

King David defeated the Philistines and the Nation of Israel was born with Jerusalem as its capital.

Whatever happened to the Philistines later on is also history. Now.....there isn't ONE Philistine left who remembers their history to be able to tell it.

It has nothing to do with denying that Jews are the indigenous people of the land.
 

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Clearly you do exist and you belong to the Jewish faith.
I must disagree, the Israelites abandoned the “Jewish faith”. The Jewish faith requires the Jews to follow the “Ten Commandments”

Ten Commandments
1. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
2. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
3. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
4. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
5. Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.
6. Thou shalt not kill. [ The Israelites have murdered dozens upon dozens of Palestinian children

https://tinyurl.com/3m7h4pfb]

7. Thou shalt not commit adultery.
[ I have no direct proof of them violating this but knowing what they are I am sure they have violated this too]
8. Thou shalt not steal. [They have stolen property and continue to do so]
https://tinyurl.com/2fnsydj7

9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
[lying is what they do best]
10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour’s.

(Mal 3:5 KJV) And I will come near to you to judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers, and against the adulterers, and against false swearers, and against those that oppress the hireling in his wages, the widow, and the fatherless, and that turn aside the stranger from his right, and fear not me, saith the LORD of hosts.

(Jer 14:8 KJV) O the hope of Israel, the saviour thereof in time of trouble, why shouldest thou be as a stranger in the land, and as a wayfaring man that turneth aside to tarry for a night?

(Ezek 14:7 KJV) For every one of the house of Israel, or of the stranger that sojourneth in Israel, which separateth himself from me, and setteth up his idols in his heart, and putteth the stumblingblock of his iniquity before his face, and cometh to a prophet to inquire of him concerning me; I the LORD will answer him by myself:

(Deu 1:16 KJV) And I charged your judges at that time, saying, Hear the causes between your brethren, and judge righteously between every man and his brother, and the stranger that is with him.
(The Israelis violated this over and over)


(Deu 10:19 KJV) Love ye therefore the stranger: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

(Deu 24:19 KJV) When thou cuttest down thine harvest in thy field, and hast forgot a sheaf in the field, thou shalt not go again to fetch it: it shall be for the stranger, for the fatherless, and for the widow: that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hands. (The Israelis violated this over and over)

(Deu 24:20 KJV) When thou beatest thine olive tree, thou shalt not go over the boughs again: it shall be for the stranger, for the fatherless, and for the widow. (The Israelis violated this over and over)

(Deu 24:21 KJV) When thou gatherest the grapes of thy vineyard, thou shalt not glean it afterward: it shall be for the stranger, for the fatherless, and for the widow (The Israelis violated this over and over)

(Jer 7:6 KJV) If ye oppress not the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, and shed not innocent blood in this place, neither walk after other gods to your hurt: (The Israelis violated this over and over)

NOTE: The term “stranger is referenced 128 times in the Bible

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