Israel has the Capability to be More Selective

[montelatici]

Yes, I can see how the unilateral humanitarian ceasefires have added to the aggression. They received warning.

And what good did the warning do? Where could they go to get out of harms way?

Warning someone that you are going to kill them is not amazingly generous.

Killing the RIGHT PEOPLE is better.

The RIGHT PEOPLE are hiding behind their WIFES and BABIES.

about a week ago, innocent Palestinian civilians went out to protest, asking "why does hamas use our houses for rockets storaging? The Zionists bomb our houses and kill our families because of it!"

They protested Hamas' policy of using their houses as defense. Guess what happened to them? They were shot dead. ALL those who protested. many others who thought of doing so were suddenly forced to say they support the "resistance" no matter the cost.

Hamas' people hide beneath hospitals and schools. So how can you bomb the RIGHT people without hurting the rest?

"about a week ago, innocent Palestinian civilians went out to protest, asking "why does hamas use our houses for rockets storaging? "

Liar.

 

[RandallFlagg]

I wish to go on record here--------I served in the navy (well----actually having nothing to do with
anything related to fighting or even ships)----HOWEVER I did hear stories------I honestly believe
that there is almost no way for a guy in a plane with bombs to avoid killing civiilians on the
ground------the only thing they can do is warn people to leave ahead of time IF there is
an ahead of time. If there is ---"bomb" fire-------the guy in the plane is supposed to drop
a bomb on it. If there is a predetermined target ----the guy in the plane has a mission to drop
a bomb on it. -----If the ENEMY provides "information----we are BEACEFUL arrrrabbs "---
the guy giving out orders to the guy in the plane need not believe it. So far------I fail to see how
anyone can come to any conclusion whatsoever------re "war crime" inflicted on gaza

I served on the ground in Viet Nam (Infantry) and you are correct. Whether it be a "dumb" munition (as in an unguided bomb) or a "smart" munition (as in guided - by laser or wire) there is no way NOT to inflict civilian causalities.

The people in the Gaza Strip were warned REPEATEDLY over a period of 6 weeks to get OUT of the area. Most complied. The problem is that these terrorists (that the left loves SO dearly) are using civilians as human shields - they are hiding their Katusha rockets in schools, Mosques and hospitals, where civilians congregate.

Yet the Nazi left in America blame Israel when civilians are regrettably killed. Tough shit.

I have been in the vicinity of carpet bombing by B-52s. A mile away and I thought my guts were going to come out of my body. Never again. The military tells me to leave - I'm gone.

Make no mistake about it. The BAD GUYS here are the Animals from Hamas.

If the VC or NVA (depending on when and where you were) were using a village as a base, how long until soldiers came and destroyed the place, or it was bombed?

Generally, it would be determined by the size and location of the village. Usually, a unit was tasked with clearing the village and destroying anything of "military value". We came across several villages where the VC had a stronghold with the village and it's honcho (or Chief). When I was wounded, it was on route to clear a suspected VC village. We were ambushed and I was hit with shrapnel from a RPG.

As I recall, it was usually villages along the Ho Chi Minh and the Long DAU trail that were hit by B52s. We were coming back from a patrol one afternoon when the word came down to "seek cover". About 5 minutes later, we could hear the 52s coming. I will NEVER forget what that felt like? it seemed like they were 50 yards from us when, in fact, they were over a mile away. God awful.

 

[Coyote]

And what good did the warning do? Where could they go to get out of harms way?

Warning someone that you are going to kill them is not amazingly generous.

Killing the RIGHT PEOPLE is better.

The RIGHT PEOPLE are hiding behind their WIFES and BABIES.

about a week ago, innocent Palestinian civilians went out to protest, asking "why does hamas use our houses for rockets storaging? The Zionists bomb our houses and kill our families because of it!"

They protested Hamas' policy of using their houses as defense. Guess what happened to them? They were shot dead. ALL those who protested. many others who thought of doing so were suddenly forced to say they support the "resistance" no matter the cost.

Hamas' people hide beneath hospitals and schools. So how can you bomb the RIGHT people without hurting the rest?

"about a week ago, innocent Palestinian civilians went out to protest, asking "why does hamas use our houses for rockets storaging? "

Liar.

IS she?

What Happens When Palestinians Protest Hamas - Israel Today | Israel News

Maybe not.

Yet, we do hear over and over that the Palestinians "deserve" this for electing Hamas into power (even thought the election was about corruption and domestic issues).

They "deserve" to be killed by Israeli's and they get killed by Hamas for protesting Hamas' actions. How fucked is that?

 

[The Rabbi]

The RIGHT PEOPLE are hiding behind their WIFES and BABIES.

about a week ago, innocent Palestinian civilians went out to protest, asking "why does hamas use our houses for rockets storaging? The Zionists bomb our houses and kill our families because of it!"

They protested Hamas' policy of using their houses as defense. Guess what happened to them? They were shot dead. ALL those who protested. many others who thought of doing so were suddenly forced to say they support the "resistance" no matter the cost.

Hamas' people hide beneath hospitals and schools. So how can you bomb the RIGHT people without hurting the rest?

"about a week ago, innocent Palestinian civilians went out to protest, asking "why does hamas use our houses for rockets storaging? "

Liar.

IS she?

What Happens When Palestinians Protest Hamas - Israel Today | Israel News

Maybe not.

Yet, we do hear over and over that the Palestinians "deserve" this for electing Hamas into power (even thought the election was about corruption and domestic issues).

They "deserve" to be killed by Israeli's and they get killed by Hamas for protesting Hamas' actions. How fucked is that?

They voted for Hamas. Now they're suffering the consequences. I'd call it poetic justice or something, the same way I feel seeing pathetic pictures of Germans just after WW2. Yeah its sad but if they hadnt supported that asshole they wouldn't be there. And if the tables were turned the Germans and the Palestinians would be exulting over the defeat and humiliation of their enemy.

 

[RandallFlagg]

"about a week ago, innocent Palestinian civilians went out to protest, asking "why does hamas use our houses for rockets storaging? "

Liar.

IS she?

What Happens When Palestinians Protest Hamas - Israel Today | Israel News

Maybe not.

Yet, we do hear over and over that the Palestinians "deserve" this for electing Hamas into power (even thought the election was about corruption and domestic issues).

They "deserve" to be killed by Israeli's and they get killed by Hamas for protesting Hamas' actions. How fucked is that?

They voted for Hamas. Now they're suffering the consequences. I'd call it poetic justice or something, the same way I feel seeing pathetic pictures of Germans just after WW2. Yeah its sad but if they hadnt supported that asshole they wouldn't be there. And if the tables were turned the Germans and the Palestinians would be exulting over the defeat and humiliation of their enemy.

Indeed. No dIfference between them and those asshole Germans who sat on the curb when the allies found the camps and said "but we didn't know" while they lived a mile from the camps.

These folks LOVE Hamas. Now they HATE Hamas. Again, they were warned to get the hell out and they chose to stay. Live with it.

 

[dilloduck]

If women and children are as evil as Hamas why is Israel even concerned about collateral damage ? Just carpet bomb the whole place. Apparently there are no innocents there to bother with.

 

[Ropey]

Get this straight:

Israel can target "The Rockets"
Israel can target "The Tunnels"

But they CAN NOT target the people using the tunnels or firing the rockets.

Insanity ... 

 

[montelatici]

The RIGHT PEOPLE are hiding behind their WIFES and BABIES.

about a week ago, innocent Palestinian civilians went out to protest, asking "why does hamas use our houses for rockets storaging? The Zionists bomb our houses and kill our families because of it!"

They protested Hamas' policy of using their houses as defense. Guess what happened to them? They were shot dead. ALL those who protested. many others who thought of doing so were suddenly forced to say they support the "resistance" no matter the cost.

Hamas' people hide beneath hospitals and schools. So how can you bomb the RIGHT people without hurting the rest?

"about a week ago, innocent Palestinian civilians went out to protest, asking "why does hamas use our houses for rockets storaging? "

Liar.

IS she?

What Happens When Palestinians Protest Hamas - Israel Today | Israel News

Maybe not.

Yet, we do hear over and over that the Palestinians "deserve" this for electing Hamas into power (even thought the election was about corruption and domestic issues).

They "deserve" to be killed by Israeli's and they get killed by Hamas for protesting Hamas' actions. How fucked is that?: ]

You are quoting an article from Israel Today? Oh dear, you must believe I was born yesterday. You could try quoting something just a tad bit less, how can I say, Israeli?

 

[dilloduck]

Get this straight:

Israel can target "The Rockets"
Israel can target "The Tunnels"

But they CAN NOT target the people using the tunnels or firing the rockets.

Insanity ... 

well they've hit thousands of them

 

[Coyote]

IS she?

What Happens When Palestinians Protest Hamas - Israel Today | Israel News

Maybe not.

Yet, we do hear over and over that the Palestinians "deserve" this for electing Hamas into power (even thought the election was about corruption and domestic issues).

They "deserve" to be killed by Israeli's and they get killed by Hamas for protesting Hamas' actions. How fucked is that?

They voted for Hamas. Now they're suffering the consequences. I'd call it poetic justice or something, the same way I feel seeing pathetic pictures of Germans just after WW2. Yeah its sad but if they hadnt supported that asshole they wouldn't be there. And if the tables were turned the Germans and the Palestinians would be exulting over the defeat and humiliation of their enemy.

Indeed. No dIfference between them and those asshole Germans who sat on the curb when the allies found the camps and said "but we didn't know" while they lived a mile from the camps.

These folks LOVE Hamas. Now they HATE Hamas. Again, they were warned to get the hell out and they chose to stay. Live with it.

Where could they go? Designated "safe places" were bombed. They aren't allowed to leave Gaza. I guess that makes it more sporting - shooting fish in a barrel.

Huge difference between the Palestinians and the Germans and to make comparisons shows a total ignorance of history.

 

[RandallFlagg]

They voted for Hamas. Now they're suffering the consequences. I'd call it poetic justice or something, the same way I feel seeing pathetic pictures of Germans just after WW2. Yeah its sad but if they hadnt supported that asshole they wouldn't be there. And if the tables were turned the Germans and the Palestinians would be exulting over the defeat and humiliation of their enemy.

Indeed. No dIfference between them and those asshole Germans who sat on the curb when the allies found the camps and said "but we didn't know" while they lived a mile from the camps.

These folks LOVE Hamas. Now they HATE Hamas. Again, they were warned to get the hell out and they chose to stay. Live with it.

Where could they go? Designated "safe places" were bombed. They aren't allowed to leave Gaza. I guess that makes it more sporting - shooting fish in a barrel.

Huge difference between the Palestinians and the Germans and to make comparisons shows a total ignorance of history.

Then please tell me where the estimated 48,000 Palestinians who had left before this started went......

I'll be waiting.

Oh, and again, you nazis are incorrect. The comparison between Germany and Palestinians is, indeed, spot on. They stand by and laugh when jews are killed. The shoe is on the other foot now and suddenly they are ignorant. Screw 'em and screw any "so called" American who sides with them. Shoe fit?

 

[dilloduck]

Indeed. No dIfference between them and those asshole Germans who sat on the curb when the allies found the camps and said "but we didn't know" while they lived a mile from the camps.

These folks LOVE Hamas. Now they HATE Hamas. Again, they were warned to get the hell out and they chose to stay. Live with it.

Where could they go? Designated "safe places" were bombed. They aren't allowed to leave Gaza. I guess that makes it more sporting - shooting fish in a barrel.

Huge difference between the Palestinians and the Germans and to make comparisons shows a total ignorance of history.

Then please tell me where the estimated 48,000 Palestinians who had left before this started went......

I'll be waiting.

Oh, and again, you nazis are incorrect. The comparison between Germany and Palestinians is, indeed, spot on. They stand by and laugh when jews are killed. The shoe is on the other foot now and suddenly they are ignorant. Screw 'em and screw any "so called" American who sides with them. Shoe fit?

I'm all ears. Where did they go ?

 

[Coyote]

Indeed. No dIfference between them and those asshole Germans who sat on the curb when the allies found the camps and said "but we didn't know" while they lived a mile from the camps.

These folks LOVE Hamas. Now they HATE Hamas. Again, they were warned to get the hell out and they chose to stay. Live with it.

Where could they go? Designated "safe places" were bombed. They aren't allowed to leave Gaza. I guess that makes it more sporting - shooting fish in a barrel.

Huge difference between the Palestinians and the Germans and to make comparisons shows a total ignorance of history.

Then please tell me where the estimated 48,000 Palestinians who had left before this started went......

I'll be waiting.

Oh, and again, you nazis are incorrect. The comparison between Germany and Palestinians is, indeed, spot on. They stand by and laugh when jews are killed. The shoe is on the other foot now and suddenly they are ignorant. Screw 'em and screw any "so called" American who sides with them. Shoe fit?

"you Nazi's".

So much for your credibility.

Come back when you can find where the Palestinians have set up concentration camps, gas chambers for the Jews and I'd like to know about the medical experiments they did on Jewish children plus how they rounded up Jews and exterminated them.

Poof. You are a silly boy.

 

[Ropey]

Get this straight:

Israel can target "The Rockets"
Israel can target "The Tunnels"

But they CAN NOT target the people using the tunnels or firing the rockets.

Insanity ... 

well they've hit thousands of them

That's the insanity. Expecting it not to be so.

 

[dilloduck]

Get this straight:

Israel can target "The Rockets"
Israel can target "The Tunnels"

But they CAN NOT target the people using the tunnels or firing the rockets.

Insanity ... 

well they've hit thousands of them

That's the insanity. Expecting it not to be so.

There are a lot of insane people in the world. I don't think they expected this carnage when Israel went into Gaza to "clean house". Maybe they don't understand that Israel does not consider any Palestinian to be innocent because they all voted for Hamas.

 

[Ropey]

well they've hit thousands of them

That's the insanity. Expecting it not to be so.

There are a lot of insane people in the world. I don't think they expected this carnage when Israel went into Gaza to "clean house". Maybe they don't understand that Israel does not consider any Palestinian to be innocent because they all voted for Hamas.

This is not about cleaning house. This is about not having tunnels into Israel.

Someday the insanity will end. I know that.

When, I'm not so sure.

 

[dilloduck]

That's the insanity. Expecting it not to be so.

There are a lot of insane people in the world. I don't think they expected this carnage when Israel went into Gaza to "clean house". Maybe they don't understand that Israel does not consider any Palestinian to be innocent because they all voted for Hamas.

This is not about cleaning house. This is about not having tunnels into Israel.

Someday the insanity will end. I know that.

When, I'm not so sure.

I guess killing everyone in Gaza will prevent anymore tunnels.

 

[Slyhunter]

There are a lot of insane people in the world. I don't think they expected this carnage when Israel went into Gaza to "clean house". Maybe they don't understand that Israel does not consider any Palestinian to be innocent because they all voted for Hamas.

This is not about cleaning house. This is about not having tunnels into Israel.

Someday the insanity will end. I know that.

When, I'm not so sure.

I guess killing everyone in Gaza will prevent anymore tunnels.

Not everyone. And sealing the border and not allowing any new people in will.

 

[The Rabbi]

Where could they go? Designated "safe places" were bombed. They aren't allowed to leave Gaza. I guess that makes it more sporting - shooting fish in a barrel.

Huge difference between the Palestinians and the Germans and to make comparisons shows a total ignorance of history.

Then please tell me where the estimated 48,000 Palestinians who had left before this started went......

I'll be waiting.

Oh, and again, you nazis are incorrect. The comparison between Germany and Palestinians is, indeed, spot on. They stand by and laugh when jews are killed. The shoe is on the other foot now and suddenly they are ignorant. Screw 'em and screw any "so called" American who sides with them. Shoe fit?

"you Nazi's".

So much for your credibility.

Come back when you can find where the Palestinians have set up concentration camps, gas chambers for the Jews and I'd like to know about the medical experiments they did on Jewish children plus how they rounded up Jews and exterminated them.

Poof. You are a silly boy.

Randall is exactly right. Sure Palestinians dont eat wurst and drink beer either. But the fundamental comparison on this point is true: Palestinians voted for Hamas, knowing what they stood for. Germans voted for Hitler knowing what he stood for. Both groups were fine inflicting suffering misery, death and carnage on others. When Hamas was sending rockets into Israel how many Palestinians asked whether it was right to target civilian areas like that? Yeah none. They all cheered it. And both groups suffer for their poor decisions. Boo hoo.

 

[The Rabbi]

That's the insanity. Expecting it not to be so.

There are a lot of insane people in the world. I don't think they expected this carnage when Israel went into Gaza to "clean house". Maybe they don't understand that Israel does not consider any Palestinian to be innocent because they all voted for Hamas.

This is not about cleaning house. This is about not having tunnels into Israel.

Someday the insanity will end. I know that.

When, I'm not so sure.

When Palestinians care as much asbout their children as Israelis care about their children. Thank you, Golda.