Israel got its statehood using terrorisms

[watchingfromafar]

Well since you say you read so much than I'm sure you read about all the times the Jews offered a state for the Palestinian people

Rambo, Oh Wise One, this I never read so ---PROVE IT
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[surada]

On the geopolitics of water scarcity

Analysis of the Wazzani incident of 2002.

www.waternet.be

 

[Rambunctious]

Rambo, Oh Wise One, this I never read so ---PROVE IT
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Don't ask me to fix the damage done to you
by Public schools and the dishonest media... do your own research....

 

[Rigby5]

Don't ask me to fix the damage done to you
by Public schools and the dishonest media... do your own research....

Wrong.
Not once were the Palestinians ever given an even remotely reasonable offer.
First of all, Israel never agreed to the Right of Return by the Arabs that owned land in the Israeli side of the 1948 UN partition.
Second of all, Israel never agreed to leave Jerusalem or the West Bank that they had illegally invaded in 1967, in violation of the 1948 UN partition.

In fact, Israel never agreed to stop the blockade of Palestine.

 

[Rambunctious]

Wrong.
Not once were the Palestinians ever given an even remotely reasonable offer.
First of all, Israel never agreed to the Right of Return by the Arabs that owned land in the Israeli side of the 1948 UN partition.
Second of all, Israel never agreed to leave Jerusalem or the West Bank that they had illegally invaded in 1967, in violation of the 1948 UN partition.

In fact, Israel never agreed to stop the blockade of Palestine.

“I killed myself to give the Palestinians a state. I had a deal they turned down that would have given them all of Gaza,” Clinton said.

Bill Clinton: 'I killed myself to give the Palestinians a state'

It started when a spectator yelled, "What about Gaza?"

www.politico.com

Our public schools and the biased media is ruining the country....

 

[Roudy]

The true story not told in the western press

FIRST ACTS OF TERRORISM, COINING THE PHRASE

Hagana, Irgun and Stern gangs who threw bombs into buses, assassinated British and other officials and murdered Palestinians way before the Palestinians retaliated in kind. (what goes around comes around)https://rense.com//general21/pastzionist.htm

November 6, 1944. Zionist terrorists of the Stern Gang assassinated the British Minister Resident in the Middle East, Lord Moyne, in Cairo.

July 22, 1946. Zionist terrorists blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem,.,.,killing or injuring more than 200 persons.

October 1, 1946. The British Embassy in Rome was badly damaged by bomb explosions, for which Irgun claimed responsibility.

September 3, 1947. A postal bomb addressed to the British War Office exploded in the post office sorting room in London, injuring 2 persons. It was attributed to Irgun or Stern Gangs. (The Sunday Times, Sept. 24, 1972, p.8)

December ll, 1947. Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.

December 19, 1947. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blowing up two houses in the ruins of which were found the bodies of 10 Arabs, including 5 children. Haganah admitted responsibility for the attack.

December 13, 1947 -- February 10, 1948. Seven incidents of bomb-tossing at innocent Arab civilians in cafes and markets, killing 138 and wounding 271 others, During this period, there were 9 attacks on Arab buses. Zionists mined passenger trains on at least 4 occasions, killing 93 persons and wounding 161 others.

December 29, 1947. Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi.

June 1947. Letters sent to British Cabinet Ministers were found to contain bombs.

December ll, 1947. Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa ; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.

December 29, 1947. Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi.

January 4, 1948. Haganah terrorists wearing British Army uniforms penetrated into the center of Jaffa and blew up the Serai (the old Turkish Government House) killing more than 40 persons and wounding 98 others.

January 5, 1948. The Arab-owned Semiramis Hotel in Jerusalem was blown up, killing 20 persons.

January 7, 1948. Seventeen Arabs were killed by a bomb at the Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem, 3 of them while trying to escape. Further casualties, including the murder of a British officer near Hebron, were reported from different parts of the country.

January 16, 1948. Zionists blew up three Arab buildings. In the first, 8 children between the ages of 18 months and 12 years, died.

February 15, 1948. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blew up several houses, killing 11 Arabs, including 4 children.

March 3, 1948. Heavy damage was done to the Arab-owned Salam building in Haifa by Zionists who drove an army lorry ( truck) up to the building and escaped before the detonation of 400 Ib. of explosives; casualties numbered 11 Arabs and 3 Armenians killed and 23 injured.

March 22, 1948. A housing block in Iraq Street in Haifa was blown up killing 17 and injuring 100 others. Four members of the Stern Gang drove two truck-loads of explosives into the street and abandoned the vehicles before the explosion.

March 31, 1948. The Cairo-Haifa Express was mined, for the second time in a month, by an electronically-detonated land mine near Benyamina, killing 40 persons and wounding 60 others.

April 9, 1948. A combined force of Irgun Zvai Leumi and the Stern Gang, captured the Arab village of Deir Yassin and killed more than 200 unarmed civilians, including countless women and children. Older men and young women were paraded in chains in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem; 20 of the hostages were then in the quarry of Gevaat Shaul.

April 16, 1948. Zionists attacked the former British army camp at Tel Litvinsky, killing 90 Arabs there.

April 19, 1948. Fourteen Arabs were killed in a house in Tiberias, which was blown up by Zionist terrorists.

May 3, 1948. A book bomb addressed to a British Army officer, who had been stationed in Palestine exploded, killing his brother, Rex Farran.

May11, 1948. A letter bomb addressed to Sir Evelyn Barker, former Commanding Officer in Palestine, was detected in the nick of time by his wife.

If this doesn’t sicken you then you are part of the problem.

But don’t just reject or accept what I have posted.

Google “Israel shooting children”

Google “Israel illegal settlements”
Google Hagana, Irgun and Stern gangs
try this link
https://rense.com//general21/pastzionist.htm
Once done, come back and try to defend what you saw/read------
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Those gangs were formed AFTER Arab Muslim genocidal animals had committed massacres on Jews several times, like Israel’s response to the Arab barbarism of Oct 7.

Terrorist sympathizers never get it right.

 

[watchingfromafar]

by Public schools and the dishonest media... do your own research....

That is a long way to say I lied & I forgive you for it.

Please, just do not pass this fault on to your children
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[Rambunctious]

That is a long way to say I lied & I forgive you for it.

Please, just do not pass this fault on to your children
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What is it that you don't get about bringing up family on this board... read the rules jacko.....
Do it again and you will be reported....

 

[Rigby5]

“I killed myself to give the Palestinians a state. I had a deal they turned down that would have given them all of Gaza,” Clinton said.

Bill Clinton: 'I killed myself to give the Palestinians a state'

It started when a spectator yelled, "What about Gaza?"

www.politico.com

Our public schools and the biased media is ruining the country....

Wrong.
While they were negotiating at Camp David, Israel was racing to wipe out thousands of Arab homes before any deal would come into effect.
And that is no deal at all.
The only an acceptable deal if Israel follows the Rule of Law, and gives back ALL the properties it has stolen.

 

[Rigby5]

Those gangs were formed AFTER Arab Muslim genocidal animals had committed massacres on Jews several times, like Israel’s response to the Arab barbarism of Oct 7.

Terrorist sympathizers never get it right.

Wrong.
All the violence was always started by Zionists.
Like the 1929 riots in Hebron were caused by a Zionist shooting an Arab strawberry vendor over price.

The Palestinians were never armed.
The Zionists were illegal immigrants who smuggled weapons in with them.

The proof is who blew up the King David Hotel in order to make the British peace keepers leave?
Who gunned down the UN moderator Folke Bernadotte, so the UN could not keep the peace?
Who started massacring Arab villages like Deir Yassin?

 

[Rambunctious]

Wrong.
While they were negotiating at Camp David, Israel was racing to wipe out thousands of Arab homes before any deal would come into effect.
And that is no deal at all.
The only an acceptable deal if Israel follows the Rule of Law, and gives back ALL the properties it has stolen.

BULLSHIT... I was alive then and you are 100% wrong....
Israel is not the offender here no matter how hard you try to make them out to be just that...

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The facts are it is traditional Arab land, with the Canaanites going back 10,000 years.
The Hebrew tribes from Egypt invaded around 1000 BC, but only ruled for about 150 years before being defeated by the Assyrians, never to rule again.
The Romans pretended to make Jewish rule for about 100 years, but that was fake.
King Herod was a Roman who pretended to convert to Judaism.
And the Romans finally kicked them out from 60 AD to 160 AD.

You'll have to take that up with GOD

 

[Roudy]

Wrong.
All the violence was always started by Zionists.
Like the 1929 riots in Hebron were caused by a Zionist shooting an Arab strawberry vendor over price.

The Palestinians were never armed.
The Zionists were illegal immigrants who smuggled weapons in with them.

The proof is who blew up the King David Hotel in order to make the British peace keepers leave?
Who gunned down the UN moderator Folke Bernadotte, so the UN could not keep the peace?
Who started massacring Arab villages like Deir Yassin?

Idiot!!! The 1929 Hebron riots were started by Nazi Mufti, who was on Hitler’s payroll. Where do you get your information from, Hamas Suicide Times?

 

[Libby von H]

Israel has statehood, that is all that matters.
You want something higher, some review board, some Nazi vetting group to implement your anti-semitic dreams.

Blame Balfour and a ton of others but Israel didn't give itself a new homeland

 

[surada]

Wrong.
Not once were the Palestinians ever given an even remotely reasonable offer.
First of all, Israel never agreed to the Right of Return by the Arabs that owned land in the Israeli side of the 1948 UN partition.
Second of all, Israel never agreed to leave Jerusalem or the West Bank that they had illegally invaded in 1967, in violation of the 1948 UN partition.

In fact, Israel never agreed to stop the blockade of Palestine.

Original Party Platform of the Likud Party

Encyclopedia of Jewish and Israeli history, politics and culture, with biographies, statistics, articles and documents on topics from anti-Semitism to Zionism.

www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org

The Right of the Jewish People to the Land of Israel (Eretz Israel)
a. The right of the Jewish people to the land of Israel is eternal and indisputable and is linked with the right to security and peace; therefore, Judea and Samaria will not be handed to any foreign administration; between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty.

b. A plan which relinquishes parts of western Eretz Israel, undermines our right to the country, unavoidably leads to the establishment of a "Palestinian State," jeopardizes the security of the Jewish population, endangers the existence of the State of Israel. and frustrates any prospect of peace.

Genuine Peace-Our Central Objective
a. The Likud government will place its aspirations for peace at the top of its priorities and will spare no effort to promote peace. The Likud will act as a genuine partner at peace treaty negotiations with our neighbors, as is customary among the nations. The Likud government will attend the Geneva Conference. .

b. The Likud governments peace initiative will he positive. Directly or through a friendly state. Israel will invite her neighbors to hold direct negotiations, in order to sign without pre-conditions on either side and without any solution formula invented by outsiders (invented outside ).

At the negotiations each party will he free to make any proposals it deems lit.

Settlement
Settlement. both urban and rural. in all parts of the Land of Israel is the focal point of the Zionist effort to redeem the country, to maintain vital security areas and serves as a reservoir of strength and inspiration for the renewal of the pioneering spirit. The Likud government will call on the younger generation in Israel and the dispersions to settle and help every group and individual in the task of inhabiting and cultivating the wasteland, while taking care not to dispossess anyone.

Arab Terror Organizations
The PLO is no national liberation organization but an organization of assassins, which the Arab countries use as a political and military tool, while also serving the interests of Soviet imperialism, to stir up the area. Its aim is to liquidate the State of Israel, set up an Arab country instead and make the Land of Israel part of the Arab world. The Likud government will strive to eliminate these murderous organizations in order to prevent them from carrying out their bloody deeds

 

[Roudy]

Original Party Platform of the Likud Party

Encyclopedia of Jewish and Israeli history, politics and culture, with biographies, statistics, articles and documents on topics from anti-Semitism to Zionism.

www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org

The Right of the Jewish People to the Land of Israel (Eretz Israel)
a. The right of the Jewish people to the land of Israel is eternal and indisputable and is linked with the right to security and peace; therefore, Judea and Samaria will not be handed to any foreign administration; between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty.

b. A plan which relinquishes parts of western Eretz Israel, undermines our right to the country, unavoidably leads to the establishment of a "Palestinian State," jeopardizes the security of the Jewish population, endangers the existence of the State of Israel. and frustrates any prospect of peace.

Genuine Peace-Our Central Objective
a. The Likud government will place its aspirations for peace at the top of its priorities and will spare no effort to promote peace. The Likud will act as a genuine partner at peace treaty negotiations with our neighbors, as is customary among the nations. The Likud government will attend the Geneva Conference. .

b. The Likud governments peace initiative will he positive. Directly or through a friendly state. Israel will invite her neighbors to hold direct negotiations, in order to sign without pre-conditions on either side and without any solution formula invented by outsiders (invented outside ).

At the negotiations each party will he free to make any proposals it deems lit.

Settlement
Settlement. both urban and rural. in all parts of the Land of Israel is the focal point of the Zionist effort to redeem the country, to maintain vital security areas and serves as a reservoir of strength and inspiration for the renewal of the pioneering spirit. The Likud government will call on the younger generation in Israel and the dispersions to settle and help every group and individual in the task of inhabiting and cultivating the wasteland, while taking care not to dispossess anyone.

Arab Terror Organizations
The PLO is no national liberation organization but an organization of assassins, which the Arab countries use as a political and military tool, while also serving the interests of Soviet imperialism, to stir up the area. Its aim is to liquidate the State of Israel, set up an Arab country instead and make the Land of Israel part of the Arab world. The Likud government will strive to eliminate these murderous organizations in order to prevent them from carrying out their bloody deeds

Yada yada yada, blah blah blah. Right of the Jewish people in Their holy land was granted by the British and French, who took over the remains of the Ottoman Empire, and according to the UN codified San Remo conference.

The San Remo Resolution passed on 25 April 1920 determined the allocation of Class "A" League of Nations mandates for the administration of three then-undefined Ottoman territories in the Middle East: "Palestine", "Syria" and "Mesopotamia". The boundaries of the three territories were "to be determined [at a later date] by the Principal Allied Powers", leaving the status of outlying areas such as Zorand Transjordan unclear.

The decisions of the San Remo conference confirmed the mandate allocations of the Conference of London. The San Remo Resolution adopted on 25 April 1920 incorporated the Balfour Declaration of 1917. It and Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations were the basic documents upon which the British Mandate for Palestine was constructed. Under the Balfour Declaration, the British government had undertaken to favour the establishment of a national home for the Jewish people.

 

[surada]

Yada yada yada, blah blah blah. Right of the Jewish people in Their holy land was granted by the British and French, who took over the remains of the Ottoman Empire, and according to the UN codified San Remo conference.

The San Remo Resolution passed on 25 April 1920 determined the allocation of Class "A" League of Nations mandates for the administration of three then-undefined Ottoman territories in the Middle East: "Palestine", "Syria" and "Mesopotamia". The boundaries of the three territories were "to be determined [at a later date] by the Principal Allied Powers", leaving the status of outlying areas such as Zorand Transjordan unclear.

The decisions of the San Remo conference confirmed the mandate allocations of the Conference of London. The San Remo Resolution adopted on 25 April 1920 incorporated the Balfour Declaration of 1917. It and Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations were the basic documents upon which the British Mandate for Palestine was constructed. Under the Balfour Declaration, the British government had undertaken to favour the establishment of a national home for the Jewish people.

The Jews weren't satisfied with the land they were given. Remember. They killed over 600 British peacekeepers. Sick people. Hitler really did a number on them.

 

[Roudy]

The Jews weren't satisfied with the land they were given. Remember. They killed over 600 British peacekeepers. Sick people. Hitler really did a number on them.

Wow, what jibberish and lies. Even the land that Israel ended up with, they settled on statehood and the next day the Arabs ganged up and attacked Israel. And that was the beginning of a series of failed aggressions by Arabs in their effort to destroy Israel, which all ended up with Israel getting bigger.

You guys have a very slow learning curve, that’s all.

 

[watchingfromafar]

Israel’s true history

Palestinian territory – encompassing the Gaza Strip and West Bank, including East Jerusalem – has been illegally occupied by Israel since 1967. Since then, the Israeli government has established a two-tiered legal and political system that provides comprehensive rights for Jewish Israeli settlers while imposing military rule and control on Palestinians without any basic protections or rights under international law. The Israeli government has also engaged in a regular practice of inhumane acts, as well as extrajudicial killings, torture, denial of fundamental human rights, arbitrary detention and collective punishment. The UN

According to a March 2022 report by the UN Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the OPT, Israel’s political system of entrenched rule in the OPT satisfies the prevailing evidentiary standard for the crime of apartheid. The Special Rapporteur determined in July 2021 that Israel’s occupation since 1967 has been characterized by settlement expansion that aims to permanently alter the ethnic demographics of East Jerusalem and amounts to a war crime. The UN Security Council (UNSC) previously adopted a resolution in December 2016 reaffirming that Israeli settlements in the OPT violate international law. The CoI reached similar conclusions in September 2022, reporting that the Israeli government’s policies and actions have led to the permanent occupation and de facto annexation of Palestinian territory, likely constituting crimes under international law, including war crimes. Both the CoI and Special Rapporteur have reported that this ongoing coercive environment has prevented Palestinians from fulfilling their right to self-determination and other fundamental human rights. In December 2022 the UN General Assembly requested the International Court of Justice to give an advisory opinion on the legal consequences of Israel’s ongoing occupation.

Palestinians are regularly subjected to violence by Israeli settlers, including physical attacks, shooting with live ammunition, torching of fields and livestock, theft and vandalization of property. Israeli security forces also perpetrate widespread attacks against Palestinians, particularly in occupied territory, which often lead to deadly escalations, including regular aerial bombardments of the Gaza Strip. According to the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) and the Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR), 2022 was the deadliest year for Palestinians residing in the Occupied West Bank, including East Jerusalem, since 2005, with over 150 Palestinians, including 26 children, killed by Israeli security forces.

Meanwhile, Israel’s air, sea and land blockade of Gaza has been in place since 2007​

The CoI concluded that the Israeli government has restricted civic space through a strategy of delegitimizing and silencing civil society, which is linked to its goal of maintaining permanent occupation at the expense of the rights of the Palestinian people.
Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territory - Global Centre for the Responsibility to Protect
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