Israel Destroys Peace...

Do show a reliable link to this. one that shows the WORLD supports terrorism, mass murder and killing children in the name of land theft and religion.
Your personal opinion of a particular link, doesn't mean shit!

And applying for UN recognition, is not terrorism.

BTW, there isn't a single country on the planet that supports your position and that includes the Israeli High Court.
 
Non Jews Citizens ARE treated equally in Israel. The rights to buy property law might differ slightly, but that doesn't mean that they are TREATED badly.
Go to Israel for a month, wear a cross, act like a Christian. Then get back to me and tell me if you were treated badly..

LiveLeak.com - Jews attacking Christian Women for wearing a cross



The very Jews you laud over when they go to gaza and side with the terrorists. Shows that you don't have a clue about what is really happening in the M.E.

It is the same man that was in the other video with pamphlets. I sounds like the christians entered an Orthodox neighborhood. They are a very closed group and don't have much care for even jews who are not orthodox.

This one man does not express his arguments clearly. I would not consider him as typical of either jew or orthodox. Druze in many ways are also a very closed group with certain prejudices about outsiders.

You are getting desperate to create a wedge between christians and jews?
You can find dozens of crackpot speakers at hyde park on soap boxes. There are people who believe themselves christians with signs about the end of the world.
You can go anywhere in the world and find someone that is so crazed that they will attack or verbalize their beliefs against those of another group, race, religion, etc.
In a population of 8 million, you don't think there would be a few examples of bias, or verbally obnoxious?

I remember in NY there were areas that were closed on the sabbath. No car could drive on those streets, you had to take a detour. It was no hardship.

Saudi, you don't wear a cross that could be seen. US military is the same way. Keep it under your t-shirt.

There are various geometric symbols like the tuareg cross that are used by muslims, but they are not a christian "crucifix".

Bad form trying to create a wedge in an attempt to defame Judaism as a faith.
 
Phoenall, you posted that Islamists eat their enemies entails, you refuse to link that statement to a source. Its sounds very demented...

I should refuse to debate you because you're obviously a liar. How can one achieve a TRUE peace with honesty even to his enemies. Israel refuses to deal with reality...The world wants peace and the 67 borders.

Israel is on the wrong side of History.



Here you again, from an ex Islamic terrorist no less

The scene of the Palestinians rending a Jew apart to get at his entrails so they could eat them. Look at the blood around the mans mouth

Arabs-waving-entrails-of-butchered-Israelis-in-Ramallah-300x242.jpg


And if one thinks that the Muslim have evolved into a modern mindset, one must remember what took place in Ramallah in which two Israeli soldiers were beaten and tortured to death, their bodies thrown down a window to the sounds of “Allahu Akbar”, and their flesh then chewed by the crowd.

Arabs waving entrails of butchered Israelis in Ramallah

Muslims in Ramallah held body parts of Israeli while they cried out “I eat the flesh of my occupier!”

The spirit of cannibalism is alive an well in Egypt. Just look at what the Egyptian cleric Muhammad Hussein YaÂ’qub said in this video:


Then this from Syria




What a tool this nut is.




Would you like the passages from the Koran that allow this to happen ?
 
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The very Jews you laud over when they go to gaza and side with the terrorists. Shows that you don't have a clue about what is really happening in the M.E.

It is the same man that was in the other video with pamphlets. I sounds like the christians entered an Orthodox neighborhood. They are a very closed group and don't have much care for even jews who are not orthodox.

This one man does not express his arguments clearly. I would not consider him as typical of either jew or orthodox. Druze in many ways are also a very closed group with certain prejudices about outsiders.

You are getting desperate to create a wedge between christians and jews?
You can find dozens of crackpot speakers at hyde park on soap boxes. There are people who believe themselves christians with signs about the end of the world.
You can go anywhere in the world and find someone that is so crazed that they will attack or verbalize their beliefs against those of another group, race, religion, etc.
In a population of 8 million, you don't think there would be a few examples of bias, or verbally obnoxious?

I remember in NY there were areas that were closed on the sabbath. No car could drive on those streets, you had to take a detour. It was no hardship.

Saudi, you don't wear a cross that could be seen. US military is the same way. Keep it under your t-shirt.

There are various geometric symbols like the tuareg cross that are used by muslims, but they are not a christian "crucifix".

Bad form trying to create a wedge in an attempt to defame Judaism as a faith.

There are hundreds of examples. Even the right-wing, fundamentalist Christian group "National Prayer Network" has a whole blog discussing Jewish attacks on Christians.
 
Do show a reliable link to this. one that shows the WORLD supports terrorism, mass murder and killing children in the name of land theft and religion.
Your personal opinion of a particular link, doesn't mean shit!

And applying for UN recognition, is not terrorism.

BTW, there isn't a single country on the planet that supports your position and that includes the Israeli High Court.



They already have UN recognition, and a government, and a capital in East Jerusalem. They only thing they don't have is a border as they refuse to negotiate one, instead they demand that the world gives in to them and takes the land away from the Jews.

Now the practise of the Palestinians to fire rockets at Schools, playgrounds and kindergartens is well documented with their leaders admitting it as a fact. Also the practise of mass murder is well documented when hamas and fatah went to war and threw people from the tops of buildings, murdered each others children and terrorised the inhabitants of Palestine. That many nations and the UN have declared hamas to be a terrorist organisation, and many view all Palestinians as terrorists.

So why are the applying for UN recognition, if not to force the UN to invade Israel and wipe out the Jews so they can steal all the land.
 
The very Jews you laud over when they go to gaza and side with the terrorists. Shows that you don't have a clue about what is really happening in the M.E.

It is the same man that was in the other video with pamphlets. I sounds like the christians entered an Orthodox neighborhood. They are a very closed group and don't have much care for even jews who are not orthodox.

This one man does not express his arguments clearly. I would not consider him as typical of either jew or orthodox. Druze in many ways are also a very closed group with certain prejudices about outsiders.

You are getting desperate to create a wedge between christians and jews?
You can find dozens of crackpot speakers at hyde park on soap boxes. There are people who believe themselves christians with signs about the end of the world.
You can go anywhere in the world and find someone that is so crazed that they will attack or verbalize their beliefs against those of another group, race, religion, etc.
In a population of 8 million, you don't think there would be a few examples of bias, or verbally obnoxious?

I remember in NY there were areas that were closed on the sabbath. No car could drive on those streets, you had to take a detour. It was no hardship.

Saudi, you don't wear a cross that could be seen. US military is the same way. Keep it under your t-shirt.

There are various geometric symbols like the tuareg cross that are used by muslims, but they are not a christian "crucifix".

Bad form trying to create a wedge in an attempt to defame Judaism as a faith.

There are hundreds of examples. Even the right-wing, fundamentalist Christian group "National Prayer Network" has a whole blog discussing Jewish attacks on Christians.
Are these some of the cases?


Christian girls in Egypt are being kidnapped, raped, made to convert and forced into marriages due to the “twin-headed cultural hydra” of “deep-seeded Muslim and male supremacism,” warns a 2012 study that is getting renewed attention.

International Christian Concern is reporting that 2014 has already seen a spike in the number of Christian girls in Egypt being abducted. Sexual harassment, sexual assault, rapes, forced conversions, forced marriages and even being forced into working without pay (slavery) are all major problems.

Just four attorneys said they had over 550 cases over five years of Christian girls applying to have their religious identity restored by the Egyptian government after being kidnapped and forced into converting to Islam. One attorney said he personally knew of at least 1,600 cases of forced conversions.



Christian Girls in Egypt Kidnapped, Raped, Converted | #1 News Site on the Threat of Islamic Extremism
 
It is the same man that was in the other video with pamphlets. I sounds like the christians entered an Orthodox neighborhood. They are a very closed group and don't have much care for even jews who are not orthodox.

This one man does not express his arguments clearly. I would not consider him as typical of either jew or orthodox. Druze in many ways are also a very closed group with certain prejudices about outsiders.

You are getting desperate to create a wedge between christians and jews?
You can find dozens of crackpot speakers at hyde park on soap boxes. There are people who believe themselves christians with signs about the end of the world.
You can go anywhere in the world and find someone that is so crazed that they will attack or verbalize their beliefs against those of another group, race, religion, etc.
In a population of 8 million, you don't think there would be a few examples of bias, or verbally obnoxious?

I remember in NY there were areas that were closed on the sabbath. No car could drive on those streets, you had to take a detour. It was no hardship.

Saudi, you don't wear a cross that could be seen. US military is the same way. Keep it under your t-shirt.

There are various geometric symbols like the tuareg cross that are used by muslims, but they are not a christian "crucifix".

Bad form trying to create a wedge in an attempt to defame Judaism as a faith.

There are hundreds of examples. Even the right-wing, fundamentalist Christian group "National Prayer Network" has a whole blog discussing Jewish attacks on Christians.
Are these some of the cases?


Christian girls in Egypt are being kidnapped, raped, made to convert and forced into marriages due to the “twin-headed cultural hydra” of “deep-seeded Muslim and male supremacism,” warns a 2012 study that is getting renewed attention.

International Christian Concern is reporting that 2014 has already seen a spike in the number of Christian girls in Egypt being abducted. Sexual harassment, sexual assault, rapes, forced conversions, forced marriages and even being forced into working without pay (slavery) are all major problems.

Just four attorneys said they had over 550 cases over five years of Christian girls applying to have their religious identity restored by the Egyptian government after being kidnapped and forced into converting to Islam. One attorney said he personally knew of at least 1,600 cases of forced conversions.



Christian Girls in Egypt Kidnapped, Raped, Converted | #1 News Site on the Threat of Islamic Extremism

So, your point is that since Muslims are attacking Christians, Jews should be allowed to as well? If not, what is your point?
 
There are hundreds of examples. Even the right-wing, fundamentalist Christian group "National Prayer Network" has a whole blog discussing Jewish attacks on Christians.
Are these some of the cases?


Christian girls in Egypt are being kidnapped, raped, made to convert and forced into marriages due to the “twin-headed cultural hydra” of “deep-seeded Muslim and male supremacism,” warns a 2012 study that is getting renewed attention.

International Christian Concern is reporting that 2014 has already seen a spike in the number of Christian girls in Egypt being abducted. Sexual harassment, sexual assault, rapes, forced conversions, forced marriages and even being forced into working without pay (slavery) are all major problems.

Just four attorneys said they had over 550 cases over five years of Christian girls applying to have their religious identity restored by the Egyptian government after being kidnapped and forced into converting to Islam. One attorney said he personally knew of at least 1,600 cases of forced conversions.



Christian Girls in Egypt Kidnapped, Raped, Converted | #1 News Site on the Threat of Islamic Extremism

So, your point is that since Muslims are attacking Christians, Jews should be allowed to as well? If not, what is your point?

Come on, Haniya or Defeat57 (whickever one of you is posting at the moment), you cab't ciompare what is happening to unfortunate Christians in the Muslim world to whatever is happening in Israel. The Christians basically live a good life in israel, and we can't say the same for their lives in the Muslim countries. Bringing up the Christians is a new gimmick for Muslims like Haniya and Defeat67 while the Christians are truly suffering in the Muslim world and which of course Muslim posters close their eyes to.
 
Are these some of the cases?


Christian girls in Egypt are being kidnapped, raped, made to convert and forced into marriages due to the “twin-headed cultural hydra” of “deep-seeded Muslim and male supremacism,” warns a 2012 study that is getting renewed attention.

International Christian Concern is reporting that 2014 has already seen a spike in the number of Christian girls in Egypt being abducted. Sexual harassment, sexual assault, rapes, forced conversions, forced marriages and even being forced into working without pay (slavery) are all major problems.

Just four attorneys said they had over 550 cases over five years of Christian girls applying to have their religious identity restored by the Egyptian government after being kidnapped and forced into converting to Islam. One attorney said he personally knew of at least 1,600 cases of forced conversions.



Christian Girls in Egypt Kidnapped, Raped, Converted | #1 News Site on the Threat of Islamic Extremism

So, your point is that since Muslims are attacking Christians, Jews should be allowed to as well? If not, what is your point?

Come on, Haniya or Defeat57 (whickever one of you is posting at the moment), you cab't ciompare what is happening to unfortunate Christians in the Muslim world to whatever is happening in Israel. The Christians basically live a good life in israel, and we can't say the same for their lives in the Muslim countries. Bringing up the Christians is a new gimmick for Muslims like Haniya and Defeat67 while the Christians are truly suffering in the Muslim world and which of course Muslim posters close their eyes to.

So the Presbyterians are just whiners and antisemites because they criticize Jewish fire-bombings of churches?

Palestinian Christians are under attack in Israel and the occupied Palestinian territories.

"Israeli settlers have been vandalizing Palestinian churches, monasteries, cemeteries, and other Christian institutions and property in alarming numbers over the past three years.

These crimes are thought to be part of the larger “price-tag” movement, a campaign started by Israeli settlers in 2011 both to intimidate Palestinians into leaving their land and to establish a punitive “price” Palestinians must pay for perceived setbacks to the security and geographic expansion of the Jewish state.

"Price tag" attacks are not aimed exclusively at Christian Palestinians. Secular and Muslim Palestinians are regularly victimized by the price tag attacks as well. But many attacks have, indeed, targeted Christian institutions."

A Palestinian monastery near Jerusalem, for example, was firebombed and vandalized on Aug. 19. The walls of the Beit Jamal monastery, which is inhabited by the Sisters of Bethlehem order, were defaced with Stars of David and the words “price tag,” “death to Gentiles” and “revenge” written in Hebrew.

Vandals scrawled “revenge” and “price tag” on several tombs in a Palestinian Orthodox cemetery in Jaffa, Israel in June of this year.

In May 2013, Israeli settlers slashed the tires of a car belonging to the lawyer for the Society of St. Yves Catholic Center for Human Rights, in the Sheikh Jarrah neighborhood of Jerusalem.

The words “Jesus is a Monkey” appeared in Hebrew on the Church of the Dormition in occupied East Jerusalem in May 2013. The same church had also been attacked in October 2012, when “Jesus is a son of a *****, price tag” was spray painted on its walls.

The Church is believed by many Christians to be the site where the Virgin Mary died.

The Assembly of Catholic Ordinaries in the Holy Land attributed the 2012 attacks in a statement on its website to “the education of the young in some [Israeli] schools where contempt and intolerance are taught.”

To solve the problem, the statement went on to say, “the Assembly again asks that radical changes be made in the education system, otherwise the same causes will produce the same effects over and over.”

In September 2012, the entrance door to the Latrun Monastery was set on fire and “Jesus is a monkey” was written in Hebrew on one of the walls. “We try to do everything with love,” said the abbot, Father Louie. “We are saddened by this incident. It’s a shame that some people are unwilling to live with and accept people who are different.”

The Israeli government, while officially condemning price tag attacks, has prosecuted few of the alleged attackers.

Meanwhile, the government has stepped up its own campaign of demolishing Palestinian homes, seizing Palestinian land, revoking PalestiniansÂ’ residency permits, and invading Palestinian institutions, including churches and monasteries. These efforts are part of an official plan to Judaicize East Jerusalem and parts of the West Bank ― Palestinian territories that have been under Israeli occupation since 1967.

Only the most populous Palestinian cities are not under full Israeli military control, but these places, including their religious institutions, are regularly occupied by the Israeli Defense Forces.

In late July, for instance, Israeli soldiers invaded the Cremisan Monastery in Bethlehem, in the occupied Palestinian West Bank, detaining the people inside before finally releasing them. The adjacent convent and its land are scheduled to be annexed by Israel, in violation of international law.

The raid was thought to be in response to the Salesian SistersÂ’ seven-year legal battle to block the planned annexation. The Israeli government is planning to extend its Separation Barrier through the property, thus placing the monastery and 75% of the conventÂ’s land on the Israeli side and the convent and a primary school on the Palestinian side.

The Israeli government has seized and/or demolished more than 28,000 Palestinian properties since 1967, according to the Israeli Committee Against Housing Demolitions (ICAHD). At least 30 houses have been destroyed in East Jerusalem alone since January 2013, according to the Israeli human rights group, Btselem."

Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) - News & Announcements - Palestinian Christians under attack
 
There are hundreds of examples. Even the right-wing, fundamentalist Christian group "National Prayer Network" has a whole blog discussing Jewish attacks on Christians.
Are these some of the cases?


Christian girls in Egypt are being kidnapped, raped, made to convert and forced into marriages due to the “twin-headed cultural hydra” of “deep-seeded Muslim and male supremacism,” warns a 2012 study that is getting renewed attention.

International Christian Concern is reporting that 2014 has already seen a spike in the number of Christian girls in Egypt being abducted. Sexual harassment, sexual assault, rapes, forced conversions, forced marriages and even being forced into working without pay (slavery) are all major problems.

Just four attorneys said they had over 550 cases over five years of Christian girls applying to have their religious identity restored by the Egyptian government after being kidnapped and forced into converting to Islam. One attorney said he personally knew of at least 1,600 cases of forced conversions.



Christian Girls in Egypt Kidnapped, Raped, Converted | #1 News Site on the Threat of Islamic Extremism

So, your point is that since Muslims are attacking Christians, Jews should be allowed to as well? If not, what is your point?
Just General Information for the mentally impaired who defend Islamic terrorism.
 
Are these some of the cases?


Christian girls in Egypt are being kidnapped, raped, made to convert and forced into marriages due to the “twin-headed cultural hydra” of “deep-seeded Muslim and male supremacism,” warns a 2012 study that is getting renewed attention.

International Christian Concern is reporting that 2014 has already seen a spike in the number of Christian girls in Egypt being abducted. Sexual harassment, sexual assault, rapes, forced conversions, forced marriages and even being forced into working without pay (slavery) are all major problems.

Just four attorneys said they had over 550 cases over five years of Christian girls applying to have their religious identity restored by the Egyptian government after being kidnapped and forced into converting to Islam. One attorney said he personally knew of at least 1,600 cases of forced conversions.



Christian Girls in Egypt Kidnapped, Raped, Converted | #1 News Site on the Threat of Islamic Extremism

So, your point is that since Muslims are attacking Christians, Jews should be allowed to as well? If not, what is your point?
Just General Information for the mentally impaired who defend Islamic terrorism.

How does criticizing attacks on Christians become defending Islamic terrorism? :cuckoo:
 
The very Jews you laud over when they go to gaza and side with the terrorists. Shows that you don't have a clue about what is really happening in the M.E.

It is the same man that was in the other video with pamphlets. I sounds like the christians entered an Orthodox neighborhood. They are a very closed group and don't have much care for even jews who are not orthodox.

This one man does not express his arguments clearly. I would not consider him as typical of either jew or orthodox. Druze in many ways are also a very closed group with certain prejudices about outsiders.

You are getting desperate to create a wedge between christians and jews?
You can find dozens of crackpot speakers at hyde park on soap boxes. There are people who believe themselves christians with signs about the end of the world.
You can go anywhere in the world and find someone that is so crazed that they will attack or verbalize their beliefs against those of another group, race, religion, etc.
In a population of 8 million, you don't think there would be a few examples of bias, or verbally obnoxious?

I remember in NY there were areas that were closed on the sabbath. No car could drive on those streets, you had to take a detour. It was no hardship.

Saudi, you don't wear a cross that could be seen. US military is the same way. Keep it under your t-shirt.

There are various geometric symbols like the tuareg cross that are used by muslims, but they are not a christian "crucifix".

Bad form trying to create a wedge in an attempt to defame Judaism as a faith.

There are hundreds of examples. Even the right-wing, fundamentalist Christian group "National Prayer Network" has a whole blog discussing Jewish attacks on Christians.

And tell us of the many attacks by muslims on christians. The dead, the maimed, the tortured, those forced to convert, brutality against those who converted to christianity, the taking of children to be raised as muslims, the enslavement.

Stop making this as a wedge. There will always be some who got to the fanatical extreme in their beliefs and practices.

I have no love of orthodoxy. I don't care for organized religion in general. I have know enough people of all faiths to at least have some respect for what they believe. I don't have to agree, but I don't generally go out of my way to defame or insult them either.

If you want to talk on harassment of christians I can point you to countries where they need activist a great deal more than in Israel.
 
It is the same man that was in the other video with pamphlets. I sounds like the christians entered an Orthodox neighborhood. They are a very closed group and don't have much care for even jews who are not orthodox.

This one man does not express his arguments clearly. I would not consider him as typical of either jew or orthodox. Druze in many ways are also a very closed group with certain prejudices about outsiders.

You are getting desperate to create a wedge between christians and jews?
You can find dozens of crackpot speakers at hyde park on soap boxes. There are people who believe themselves christians with signs about the end of the world.
You can go anywhere in the world and find someone that is so crazed that they will attack or verbalize their beliefs against those of another group, race, religion, etc.
In a population of 8 million, you don't think there would be a few examples of bias, or verbally obnoxious?

I remember in NY there were areas that were closed on the sabbath. No car could drive on those streets, you had to take a detour. It was no hardship.

Saudi, you don't wear a cross that could be seen. US military is the same way. Keep it under your t-shirt.

There are various geometric symbols like the tuareg cross that are used by muslims, but they are not a christian "crucifix".

Bad form trying to create a wedge in an attempt to defame Judaism as a faith.

There are hundreds of examples. Even the right-wing, fundamentalist Christian group "National Prayer Network" has a whole blog discussing Jewish attacks on Christians.

And tell us of the many attacks by muslims on christians. The dead, the maimed, the tortured, those forced to convert, brutality against those who converted to christianity, the taking of children to be raised as muslims, the enslavement.

Stop making this as a wedge. There will always be some who got to the fanatical extreme in their beliefs and practices.

I have no love of orthodoxy. I don't care for organized religion in general. I have know enough people of all faiths to at least have some respect for what they believe. I don't have to agree, but I don't generally go out of my way to defame or insult them either.

If you want to talk on harassment of christians I can point you to countries where they need activist a great deal more than in Israel.

I say kudos to those Christians operating in Muslim countries who are taking note of what is happening to their fellow Christians in those countries. They are very, very brave people.

Maybe Haniya and/or Defeat67 should make note of Raymond Ibramhim (a Christian with roots in Egypt) who keeps a list of the incidents of persecution of Christians in the Muslim world.
 
There are hundreds of examples. Even the right-wing, fundamentalist Christian group "National Prayer Network" has a whole blog discussing Jewish attacks on Christians.

And tell us of the many attacks by muslims on christians. The dead, the maimed, the tortured, those forced to convert, brutality against those who converted to christianity, the taking of children to be raised as muslims, the enslavement.

Stop making this as a wedge. There will always be some who got to the fanatical extreme in their beliefs and practices.

I have no love of orthodoxy. I don't care for organized religion in general. I have know enough people of all faiths to at least have some respect for what they believe. I don't have to agree, but I don't generally go out of my way to defame or insult them either.

If you want to talk on harassment of christians I can point you to countries where they need activist a great deal more than in Israel.

I say kudos to those Christians operating in Muslim countries who are taking note of what is happening to their fellow Christians in those countries. They are very, very brave people.

Maybe Haniya and/or Defeat67 should make note of Raymond Ibramhim (a Christian with roots in Egypt) who keeps a list of the incidents of persecution of Christians in the Muslim world.

people like Ibramhim and Shoebat can be extreme as well.
 
And tell us of the many attacks by muslims on christians. The dead, the maimed, the tortured, those forced to convert, brutality against those who converted to christianity, the taking of children to be raised as muslims, the enslavement.

Stop making this as a wedge. There will always be some who got to the fanatical extreme in their beliefs and practices.

I have no love of orthodoxy. I don't care for organized religion in general. I have know enough people of all faiths to at least have some respect for what they believe. I don't have to agree, but I don't generally go out of my way to defame or insult them either.

If you want to talk on harassment of christians I can point you to countries where they need activist a great deal more than in Israel.

I say kudos to those Christians operating in Muslim countries who are taking note of what is happening to their fellow Christians in those countries. They are very, very brave people.

Maybe Haniya and/or Defeat67 should make note of Raymond Ibramhim (a Christian with roots in Egypt) who keeps a list of the incidents of persecution of Christians in the Muslim world.

people like Ibramhim and Shoebat can be extreme as well.

I don't know about Shoebat, Aris, but I feel that these different organizations that are operating in Muslim countries are sending Ibrahim notice of what is happening. Even the Pope is worried about what is happening in the Middle East with regard to Christians so he must be well apprised of the situation there.
 
I say kudos to those Christians operating in Muslim countries who are taking note of what is happening to their fellow Christians in those countries. They are very, very brave people.

Maybe Haniya and/or Defeat67 should make note of Raymond Ibramhim (a Christian with roots in Egypt) who keeps a list of the incidents of persecution of Christians in the Muslim world.

people like Ibramhim and Shoebat can be extreme as well.

I don't know about Shoebat, Aris, but I feel that these different organizations that are operating in Muslim countries are sending Ibrahim notice of what is happening. Even the Pope is worried about what is happening in the Middle East with regard to Christians so he must be well apprised of the situation there.

He might have been given the facts but the way he presents them can be incitement. It is one thing to get people off their butts and take some action, but it might not always be the right or more constructive action.
I read Ibramhim, but I don't care for his style. I prefer a more moderate line.
JMHO
 
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Can somebody give a good reason why the US still helps Israel when they have caused trouble again?
 
The next set of actions by Israel if Abbas does join the 15 convention as a palestinian state, against the terms of the peace talks are going to hit hard.
Beside sactions on the tax collected for the palestinians, they are talking about annexing 60% of the west bank. It is going to hurt a lot more than BDS.
Palestinians really should seriously sit down and bartering out a deal. It is an art in the middle east that seems not to be utilized in the negotiations.
Barghouti is serving 5 life sentences, but if released he will likely win election. There might be a third of those on the list that could be released but the rest are guilty of several death.
Barghouti at least wants to seek a non violent path, but it also just might be to soften his chance for release.
 

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