Israel attacks civilians

[docmauser1]

Don't forget the one thing that actually made up the Israeli Supreme Courts mind on their decision, which is Gaza is completely dependent on Israel for electrical power.

Not quite, of course, they have a powerplant of their own, which the activist supreme court won't mention, and both hamas-fatah seem to be contesting who's the better thief, or so we get from the maannews.

 

[docmauser1]

Israel still controls everything and everybody through its crossings. Israel enters Gaza at will to kill anyone it likes and to destroy anything it likes.
Israel still controls the population registry in Gaza.
The Israeli navy patrols Palestine's territorial waters cutting off all traffic in that area.
Israel patrols Palestinian airspace and forbids all air traffic.

Gazabadians are having some cool occupation, indeed.

The Mubarak regime was paid by the US to do whatever Israel wanted. There have been some changes since his downfall.

But the ability to smell money remained, of course.

Rafah still requires PA Authority passports that can only be issued to Palestinians who have Israeli issued ID cards.

As that silly Amira Hass says "The same government that includes a call to end the blockade on Gaza in every one of its statements, in practice aids in imprisoning the Gazans by preventing many of them from holding valid Palestinian passports. Not only does the Fatah government refuse to send blank passports to Gaza to be filled out, thus forcing Gazans to use the services of special go-between agencies which send the applications to Ramallah, but its general intelligence service even intervenes - as has been revealed lately - and in many cases vetoes passports for Gaza residents."
Let'em print hamas passports and fatah passports.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israel still controls everything and everybody through its crossings. Israel enters Gaza at will to kill anyone it likes and to destroy anything it likes.
Israel still controls the population registry in Gaza.
The Israeli navy patrols Palestine's territorial waters cutting off all traffic in that area.
Israel patrols Palestinian airspace and forbids all air traffic.

Gazabadians are having some cool occupation, indeed.

The Mubarak regime was paid by the US to do whatever Israel wanted. There have been some changes since his downfall.

But the ability to smell money remained, of course.

Rafah still requires PA Authority passports that can only be issued to Palestinians who have Israeli issued ID cards.

As that silly Amira Hass says "The same government that includes a call to end the blockade on Gaza in every one of its statements, in practice aids in imprisoning the Gazans by preventing many of them from holding valid Palestinian passports. Not only does the Fatah government refuse to send blank passports to Gaza to be filled out, thus forcing Gazans to use the services of special go-between agencies which send the applications to Ramallah, but its general intelligence service even intervenes - as has been revealed lately - and in many cases vetoes passports for Gaza residents."
Let'em print hamas passports and fatah passports.

Not only does the Fatah government...

Fatah lost the elections. How is it the government?

 

[irosie91]

For the record----any resident of Gaza who wishes to leave Gaza can do so. For the record---EGYPT has full control over whether or not it wishes to allow Gazans into Egypt-------people like Tinny blame the fact that egyptians do not like Gazans on israel Several years ago CANADA offered citizenship to a quota of "palestinian refugees" Canada had to withdraw the policy or face threatened terrorist action The only people interested in maintaning the "suffering" of "palestinian refugees" are arabists and islamicists ----even tinny knows that but lies a lot about it

 

[P F Tinmore]

For the record----any resident of Gaza who wishes to leave Gaza can do so. For the record---EGYPT has full control over whether or not it wishes to allow Gazans into Egypt-------people like Tinny blame the fact that egyptians do not like Gazans on israel Several years ago CANADA offered citizenship to a quota of "palestinian refugees" Canada had to withdraw the policy or face threatened terrorist action The only people interested in maintaning the "suffering" of "palestinian refugees" are arabists and islamicists ----even tinny knows that but lies a lot about it

For the record----any resident of Gaza who wishes to leave Gaza can do so.

Why would they want to leave their homeland? Most stay to fight for their rights.

Could you provide more information on Canada.

 

[irosie91]

For the record----any resident of Gaza who wishes to leave Gaza can do so. For the record---EGYPT has full control over whether or not it wishes to allow Gazans into Egypt-------people like Tinny blame the fact that egyptians do not like Gazans on israel Several years ago CANADA offered citizenship to a quota of "palestinian refugees" Canada had to withdraw the policy or face threatened terrorist action The only people interested in maintaning the "suffering" of "palestinian refugees" are arabists and islamicists ----even tinny knows that but lies a lot about it

For the record----any resident of Gaza who wishes to leave Gaza can do so.

Why would they want to leave their homeland? Most stay to fight for their rights.

Could you provide more information on Canada.

Try again people of YOUR ILK compare gaza to AUSCHWITZ and ---of course---leave out the fact that getting OUT of Auschwitz was the real issue. as to GAZA being a "homeland" -----sorry---but it is actually no-one's real "HOMELAND" it is just a bit along the edge between egypt and Israel and for many many years was mostly just wasteland----very few people lived there. HISTORICALLY it was populated and even productive---. The theory presented in the nazi literature (written by nazi war criminals in egypt and syria---during the post world war II era) was that ISRAEL FORCED ARABS TO LIVE THERE against their wills. During the time that Gaza was part of EGYPT----ie until the war of 1967----Living in Gaza was described in islamic propaganda as BEING IN A CONCENTRATION CAMP------in fact gazan arabs did live in barbed wire enclosed camps----were prevented BY EGYPT from entering egypt and lived on UN support---water--in pails and food Medical care was virtually non-existent-----even childhood innoculations As to the canada policy------it was long ago----like in the 1980s I will try to find a citation. In any case-----if you do not know that there has been a concerted effort to force palestinian "refugees" to maintane a "refugee" status -------you are a very ill-informed person Did you know that if an arab citizen MARRIES a "palestinian refugee" That person becomes a "palestinian refugee along with any children they have? One of my clients was married to and later divorced a gazan palestinian "refugee" Admittedly she was a bit bitter toward him-------but I got the low down on the situation

 

[P F Tinmore]

For the record----any resident of Gaza who wishes to leave Gaza can do so. For the record---EGYPT has full control over whether or not it wishes to allow Gazans into Egypt-------people like Tinny blame the fact that egyptians do not like Gazans on israel Several years ago CANADA offered citizenship to a quota of "palestinian refugees" Canada had to withdraw the policy or face threatened terrorist action The only people interested in maintaning the "suffering" of "palestinian refugees" are arabists and islamicists ----even tinny knows that but lies a lot about it

For the record----any resident of Gaza who wishes to leave Gaza can do so.

Why would they want to leave their homeland? Most stay to fight for their rights.

Could you provide more information on Canada.

Try again people of YOUR ILK compare gaza to AUSCHWITZ and ---of course---leave out the fact that getting OUT of Auschwitz was the real issue. as to GAZA being a "homeland" -----sorry---but it is actually no-one's real "HOMELAND" it is just a bit along the edge between egypt and Israel and for many many years was mostly just wasteland----very few people lived there. HISTORICALLY it was populated and even productive---. The theory presented in the nazi literature (written by nazi war criminals in egypt and syria---during the post world war II era) was that ISRAEL FORCED ARABS TO LIVE THERE against their wills. During the time that Gaza was part of EGYPT----ie until the war of 1967----Living in Gaza was described in islamic propaganda as BEING IN A CONCENTRATION CAMP------in fact gazan arabs did live in barbed wire enclosed camps----were prevented BY EGYPT from entering egypt and lived on UN support---water--in pails and food Medical care was virtually non-existent-----even childhood innoculations As to the canada policy------it was long ago----like in the 1980s I will try to find a citation. In any case-----if you do not know that there has been a concerted effort to force palestinian "refugees" to maintane a "refugee" status -------you are a very ill-informed person Did you know that if an arab citizen MARRIES a "palestinian refugee" That person becomes a "palestinian refugee along with any children they have? One of my clients was married to and later divorced a gazan palestinian "refugee" Admittedly she was a bit bitter toward him-------but I got the low down on the situation

Holy smokescreen, Batman!

What did all that crap have to do with my question?

 

[docmauser1]

Israel still controls everything and everybody through its crossings. Israel enters Gaza at will to kill anyone it likes and to destroy anything it likes.
Israel still controls the population registry in Gaza.
The Israeli navy patrols Palestine's territorial waters cutting off all traffic in that area.
Israel patrols Palestinian airspace and forbids all air traffic.

Gazabadians are having some cool occupation, indeed.But the ability to smell money remained, of course.As that silly Amira Hass says "The same government that includes a call to end the blockade on Gaza in every one of its statements, in practice aids in imprisoning the Gazans by preventing many of them from holding valid Palestinian passports. Not only does the Fatah government refuse to send blank passports to Gaza to be filled out, thus forcing Gazans to use the services of special go-between agencies which send the applications to Ramallah, but its general intelligence service even intervenes - as has been revealed lately - and in many cases vetoes passports for Gaza residents."
Let'em print hamas passports and fatah passports.

Not only does the Fatah government...

Fatah lost the elections. How is it the government?

If the leftie-leftist Haaretz woman says it's a government, then it's a government!

 

[P F Tinmore]

BETHLEHEM, (PIC)-- The Israeli occupation authority (IOA) sent its demolition teams to Beit Jala village in Bethlehem and destroyed a house under construction and part of a restaurant on Thursday.

Local sources said that the 100-meter square house was owned by George Khaliliya.

They added that the IOA teams razed a kitchen and toilets in a restaurant owned by Ramzi Qaisiya, which were destroyed last April but Qaisiya rebuilt them.

Qaisiya charged that the demolition was illegal since the building was built before Israel’s occupation of the West Bank in 1967.

IOA demolishes two buildings in Bethlehem village

 

[irosie91]

BETHLEHEM, (PIC)-- The Israeli occupation authority (IOA) sent its demolition teams to Beit Jala village in Bethlehem and destroyed a house under construction and part of a restaurant on Thursday.

Local sources said that the 100-meter square house was owned by George Khaliliya.

They added that the IOA teams razed a kitchen and toilets in a restaurant owned by Ramzi Qaisiya, which were destroyed last April but Qaisiya rebuilt them.

Qaisiya charged that the demolition was illegal since the building was built before Israel’s occupation of the West Bank in 1967.

IOA demolishes two buildings in Bethlehem village

House demolitions in bethlehem cannot be done without a COURT ORDER-----that means the owner was informed and had the right to contest the order (just like such court orders in the USA)

your article does not even address the fact that there was a court order ----what the basis of the court order was or whether or not the owner contested the court order. Propagandaist claims that Israel simply shows up with bulldozers and runs over houses are lies-----LEAVING OUT THE DETAILS in order to support that lie------is filthy mendacity

 

[P F Tinmore]

BETHLEHEM, (PIC)-- The Israeli occupation authority (IOA) sent its demolition teams to Beit Jala village in Bethlehem and destroyed a house under construction and part of a restaurant on Thursday.

Local sources said that the 100-meter square house was owned by George Khaliliya.

They added that the IOA teams razed a kitchen and toilets in a restaurant owned by Ramzi Qaisiya, which were destroyed last April but Qaisiya rebuilt them.

Qaisiya charged that the demolition was illegal since the building was built before Israel’s occupation of the West Bank in 1967.

IOA demolishes two buildings in Bethlehem village

House demolitions in bethlehem cannot be done without a COURT ORDER-----that means the owner was informed and had the right to contest the order (just like such court orders in the USA)

your article does not even address the fact that there was a court order ----what the basis of the court order was or whether or not the owner contested the court order. Propagandaist claims that Israel simply shows up with bulldozers and runs over houses are lies-----LEAVING OUT THE DETAILS in order to support that lie------is filthy mendacity

Israeli kangaroo court.

 

[irosie91]

Why would they want to leave their homeland? Most stay to fight for their rights.

Could you provide more information on Canada.

Try again people of YOUR ILK compare gaza to AUSCHWITZ and ---of course---leave out the fact that getting OUT of Auschwitz was the real issue. as to GAZA being a "homeland" -----sorry---but it is actually no-one's real "HOMELAND" it is just a bit along the edge between egypt and Israel and for many many years was mostly just wasteland----very few people lived there. HISTORICALLY it was populated and even productive---. The theory presented in the nazi literature (written by nazi war criminals in egypt and syria---during the post world war II era) was that ISRAEL FORCED ARABS TO LIVE THERE
against their wills. During the time that Gaza was part of EGYPT----ie until the war of 1967----Living in Gaza was described in islamic propaganda as BEING IN A CONCENTRATION CAMP------in fact gazan arabs did live in barbed wire enclosed camps----were prevented BY EGYPT from entering egypt and lived on UN support---water--in pails and food Medical care was virtually non-existent-----even childhood innoculations As to the canada policy------it was long ago----like in the 1980s I will try to find a citation. In any case-----if you do not know that there has been a concerted effort to force palestinian "refugees" to maintane a "refugee" status -------you are a very ill-informed person Did you know that if an arab citizen MARRIES a "palestinian refugee" That person becomes a "palestinian refugee along with any children they have? One of my clients was married to and later divorced a gazan palestinian "refugee" Admittedly she was a bit bitter toward him-------but I got the low down on the situation

Holy smokescreen, Batman!

What did all that crap have to do with my question?

you asked no QUESTION-----you simply made the assertion that Gazans have agreed to stay in a place that was identical to AUSCHWITZ because in so doing you they are FIGHTING FOR THEIR "HOMELAND" Gazans have agreed to see their children starved and tortured and gassed to death because GAZA IS THEIR HOMELAND I have provided you with correct information about Gazans and Gaza I doubt that you were ever in the same room with a gazan-----and probably never had a conversation about Gaza and Gazans with an egyptian------and clearly you know nothing about the HISTORY OF GAZA----or "palestinians" for that matter----------you babble propaganda like a parrot

 

[P F Tinmore]

Try again people of YOUR ILK compare gaza to AUSCHWITZ and ---of course---leave out the fact that getting OUT of Auschwitz was the real issue. as to GAZA being a "homeland" -----sorry---but it is actually no-one's real "HOMELAND" it is just a bit along the edge between egypt and Israel and for many many years was mostly just wasteland----very few people lived there. HISTORICALLY it was populated and even productive---. The theory presented in the nazi literature (written by nazi war criminals in egypt and syria---during the post world war II era) was that ISRAEL FORCED ARABS TO LIVE THERE
against their wills. During the time that Gaza was part of EGYPT----ie until the war of 1967----Living in Gaza was described in islamic propaganda as BEING IN A CONCENTRATION CAMP------in fact gazan arabs did live in barbed wire enclosed camps----were prevented BY EGYPT from entering egypt and lived on UN support---water--in pails and food Medical care was virtually non-existent-----even childhood innoculations As to the canada policy------it was long ago----like in the 1980s I will try to find a citation. In any case-----if you do not know that there has been a concerted effort to force palestinian "refugees" to maintane a "refugee" status -------you are a very ill-informed person Did you know that if an arab citizen MARRIES a "palestinian refugee" That person becomes a "palestinian refugee along with any children they have? One of my clients was married to and later divorced a gazan palestinian "refugee" Admittedly she was a bit bitter toward him-------but I got the low down on the situation

Holy smokescreen, Batman!

What did all that crap have to do with my question?

you asked no QUESTION-----you simply made the assertion that Gazans have agreed to stay in a place that was identical to AUSCHWITZ because in so doing you they are FIGHTING FOR THEIR "HOMELAND" Gazans have agreed to see their children starved and tortured and gassed to death because GAZA IS THEIR HOMELAND I have provided you with correct information about Gazans and Gaza I doubt that you were ever in the same room with a gazan-----and probably never had a conversation about Gaza and Gazans with an egyptian------and clearly you know nothing about the HISTORY OF GAZA----or "palestinians" for that matter----------you babble propaganda like a parrot

WOW, how much of that did I actually say?

 

[irosie91]

Holy smokescreen, Batman!

What did all that crap have to do with my question?

you asked no QUESTION-----you simply made the assertion that Gazans have agreed to stay in a place that was identical to AUSCHWITZ because in so doing you they are FIGHTING FOR THEIR "HOMELAND" Gazans have agreed to see their children starved and tortured and gassed to death because GAZA IS THEIR HOMELAND I have provided you with correct information about Gazans and Gaza I doubt that you were ever in the same room with a gazan-----and probably never had a conversation about Gaza and Gazans with an egyptian------and clearly you know nothing about the HISTORY OF GAZA----or "palestinians" for that matter----------you babble propaganda like a parrot

WOW, how much of that did I actually say?

All of it----in your own SUCCINCT and ELEGANT prose

 

[docmauser1]

BETHLEHEM, (PIC)-- The Israeli occupation authority (IOA) sent its demolition teams to Beit Jala village in Bethlehem and destroyed a house under construction and part of a restaurant on Thursday.

Palistanians should be having second thoughts about their settlement activity. And restaurant won't be missed, at least until the end of ramadan.

 

[P F Tinmore]

you asked no QUESTION-----you simply made the assertion that Gazans have agreed to stay in a place that was identical to AUSCHWITZ because in so doing you they are FIGHTING FOR THEIR "HOMELAND" Gazans have agreed to see their children starved and tortured and gassed to death because GAZA IS THEIR HOMELAND I have provided you with correct information about Gazans and Gaza I doubt that you were ever in the same room with a gazan-----and probably never had a conversation about Gaza and Gazans with an egyptian------and clearly you know nothing about the HISTORY OF GAZA----or "palestinians" for that matter----------you babble propaganda like a parrot

WOW, how much of that did I actually say?

All of it----in your own SUCCINCT and ELEGANT prose

It sounds more like your babble.

 

[irosie91]

WOW, how much of that did I actually say?

All of it----in your own SUCCINCT and ELEGANT prose

It sounds more like your babble.

If there is anything I have said in my interpretation of YOUR writings and you wish to REPUDIATE it -----go right ahead I posted that which I understood to be the meaning of your writing

 

[P F Tinmore]

All of it----in your own SUCCINCT and ELEGANT prose

It sounds more like your babble.

If there is anything I have said in my interpretation of YOUR writings and you wish to REPUDIATE it -----go right ahead I posted that which I understood to be the meaning of your writing

For one thing you mentioned AUSCHWITZ. I have never used the word or anything related to the Nazis.

 

[irosie91]

It sounds more like your babble.

If there is anything I have said in my interpretation of YOUR writings and you wish to REPUDIATE it -----go right ahead I posted that which I understood to be the meaning of your writing

For one thing you mentioned AUSCHWITZ. I have never used the word or anything related to the Nazis.

is that all? the term AUSCHWITZ has been used by your fellows as a poetic means to convey the idea that the "palestinians" are forced to live under inhumane conditions and are trapped IN GAZA Are you denying that idea or simply objecting to the poetic use of the symbolic "AUSCHWITZ" -----ie your complaint is a mild lack of PRECISION?

 

[P F Tinmore]

If there is anything I have said in my interpretation of YOUR writings and you wish to REPUDIATE it -----go right ahead I posted that which I understood to be the meaning of your writing

For one thing you mentioned AUSCHWITZ. I have never used the word or anything related to the Nazis.

is that all? the term AUSCHWITZ has been used by your fellows as a poetic means to convey the idea that the "palestinians" are forced to live under inhumane conditions and are trapped IN GAZA Are you denying that idea or simply objecting to the poetic use of the symbolic "AUSCHWITZ" -----ie your complaint is a mild lack of PRECISION?

No, it is you saying that I said things that I have never said.