ISIS v Israel: Which Borders Change?

[georgephillip]

ISIS has ambitions beyond Syria and Iraq.
What happens when those plans reach the "shores of Tel Aviv?"

Experts Warn Israel of Possible ISIS Threat - Defense/Security - News - Arutz Sheva

"'Everyone is busy killing one another in the Arab world - it gives Israel a 'time out' to reorganize and to prepare itself for the long run,' Neriah stated.

"'If Iraq falls in the hands of ISIS, then we will have a terrorist state - where terrorists will be trained, will be equipped, will be financed by an [entire] state and not by an organization which is [in] hiding.'"

Even if Iraq doesn't fall, ISIS already holds/controls a substantial amount of real estate.

"The Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (alternatively translated as Islamic State in Iraq and Syria or Islamic State in Iraq and al-Shām) (Arabic: الدولة الاسلامية في العراق والشام* al-Dawlah al-Islāmīyah fī al-ʻIrāq wa-al-Shām or Arabic: داعش* Dāʻish), abbreviated ISIL or ISIS, is an unrecognized state and active jihadist militant group in Iraq and Syria influenced by Wahhabism.[31]

"In its unrecognized self-proclaimed status as an independent state, it claims the territory of Iraq and Syria, with implied future claims intended over more of the Levant, including Lebanon, Israel, Palestine, Jordan, Cyprus, and Southern Turkey.[32][33]

"Several leaders of the organization have claimed that American President George W. Bush's invasion of Iraq in 2003 led them to wage jihad against the U.S., and that American military action made it easier for them to recruit militants and eventually retake control of the country.[34]"

Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Sunni Man]

Israel has been strangely silent about the ISIS freedom fighters success in Syria and Iraq. ..

 

[dilloduck]

Maybe because they were so hoping that ISIS could overthrow Assad ?

 

[Sunni Man]

Someway.....somehow.....the Israel's are involved with the situation.

We just don't know to what extent. ..

 

[toastman]

Someway.....somehow.....the Israel's are involved with the situation.

We just don't know to what extent. ..

Haha of course the Muslim brings up Israel when there is no connection, but is silent about the actual Muslim group itself who is committing acts of terror anywhere they go in the name of Allah

 

[Sunni Man]

As I have said many times in the past, "Anytime there is conflict, chaos, or war, in the ME region;

Israel is either financing , supplying the weapons, or orchestrating the event behind the scenes".

Nothing goes on in the ME without Israel's involvement. ..

 

[Bleipriester]

Maybe because they were so hoping that ISIS could overthrow Assad ?

I think the Israeli politicians and people would prefer Assad as the Syrian/Israeli border is Israel´s most peaceful border. But nobody knows what the Mossad is going to cause all day.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Israel knows ISIS is backed by Obama so they have to tread carefully

 

[Bleipriester]

ISIS has ambitions beyond Syria and Iraq.
What happens when those plans reach the "shores of Tel Aviv?"

Experts Warn Israel of Possible ISIS Threat - Defense/Security - News - Arutz Sheva

"'Everyone is busy killing one another in the Arab world - it gives Israel a 'time out' to reorganize and to prepare itself for the long run,' Neriah stated.

"'If Iraq falls in the hands of ISIS, then we will have a terrorist state - where terrorists will be trained, will be equipped, will be financed by an [entire] state and not by an organization which is [in] hiding.'"

Even if Iraq doesn't fall, ISIS already holds/controls a substantial amount of real estate.

"The Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (alternatively translated as Islamic State in Iraq and Syria or Islamic State in Iraq and al-Shām) (Arabic: الدولة الاسلامية في العراق والشام* al-Dawlah al-Islāmīyah fī al-ʻIrāq wa-al-Shām or Arabic: داعش* Dāʻish), abbreviated ISIL or ISIS, is an unrecognized state and active jihadist militant group in Iraq and Syria influenced by Wahhabism.[31]

"In its unrecognized self-proclaimed status as an independent state, it claims the territory of Iraq and Syria, with implied future claims intended over more of the Levant, including Lebanon, Israel, Palestine, Jordan, Cyprus, and Southern Turkey.[32][33]

"Several leaders of the organization have claimed that American President George W. Bush's invasion of Iraq in 2003 led them to wage jihad against the U.S., and that American military action made it easier for them to recruit militants and eventually retake control of the country.[34]"

Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

ISIS` influence in Syria is shrinking day by day. ISIS is surrounded by Kurds and other non-ISIS Islamist terrorists. The Islamists send suicide car bombs to each other.
And there is the Syrian Arab Army. The SAA is continuously advancing, this maps show how quickly they retake their homeland from the terrorists:

January 2014:

March 2014:

 

[georgephillip]

Israel has been strangely silent about the ISIS freedom fighters success in Syria and Iraq. ..

Iranian and Iraqi leaders are trying to link ISIS with Israel and the US:

"Iranian Army Chief of Staff Gen. Hassan Firouzabadi claimed Wednesday that Israel created and supports the terrorist Islamic State of Iraq and Syria.

“ISIS is Israel’s cover up for distancing the revolutionary forces from Israeli borders and creating a margin of security for the Zionists, and the Zionist media have also admitted this fact,” he said, Fars News Agency reported..."

"Meanwhile, the commander of Iran’s Basij force, Brig.-Gen.

"Mohammed Reza Naqdi, said on Wednesday that recent attacks by ISIS are part of a new US plot.

“The scene they have created in Iraq is the result of the United States’ behind-the-scene attempts to sow discord and they are certainly the main mastermind of these events,” said Naqdi, Fars reported.

"Naqdi attributed this to the US and its allies’ desire for Iraq’s oil."

Iraq and Syria never posed an existential threat to the Jewish state; however, decades ago both were legitimate states with rights under international law. The US and its ME proxy has decided to break each sovereign state into a series of warring sub-states with no protection under international law.

It seems likely to two greatest threats to peace in the world, the US and Israel, haven't underestimated the threat of blowback on their homelands. The national security state is well established in both "democracies."

Iran army chief accuses Israel of creating ISIS | JPost | Israel News

 

[georgephillip]

Maybe because they were so hoping that ISIS could overthrow Assad ?

That would make it much easier for the IDF to occupy southern Lebanon as far as the Litani river. On the other hand, Assad is the known devil as far as Jews are concerned, and whatever Muslim takes his place in Damascus is unknown (maybe.)

 

[georgephillip]

As I have said many times in the past, "Anytime there is conflict, chaos, or war, in the ME region;

Israel is either financing , supplying the weapons, or orchestrating the event behind the scenes".

Nothing goes on in the ME without Israel's involvement. ..

Has ISIS had anything to say about Israel aside from the standard Muslim boilerplate?

 

[toastman]

As I have said many times in the past, "Anytime there is conflict, chaos, or war, in the ME region;

Israel is either financing , supplying the weapons, or orchestrating the event behind the scenes".

Nothing goes on in the ME without Israel's involvement. ..

Sunni Troll, anytime there s chaos, conflict or war in the ME, Islamic militants and dictators are behind it.
And there's no need to research that because it's in front of our faces.

But since you cannot stand the fact that Muslims are behind all of the chaos, you always try to blame Israel without providing ANY evidence whatsoever.
But facts are facts Sunni Troll, and the facts are that MUSLIMS are killing, oppressing and destroying everything in their path.
I'm sorry you can't handle the truth.

 

[georgephillip]

Israel knows ISIS is backed by Obama so they have to tread carefully

"Israel is the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign assistance since World War II. To date,
the United States has provided Israel $121 billion (current, or non-inflation-adjusted, dollars) in
bilateral assistance.

"Almost all U.S. bilateral aid to Israel is in the form of military assistance,
although in the past Israel also received significant economic assistance. Strong congressional
support for Israel has resulted in Israel receiving benefits not available to any other countries; for
example, Israel can use some U.S. military assistance both for research and development in the
United States and for military purchases from Israeli manufacturers."

http://fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf

 

[toastman]

Israel has been strangely silent about the ISIS freedom fighters success in Syria and Iraq. ..

Iranian and Iraqi leaders are trying to link ISIS with Israel and the US:

"Iranian Army Chief of Staff Gen. Hassan Firouzabadi claimed Wednesday that Israel created and supports the terrorist Islamic State of Iraq and Syria.

“ISIS is Israel’s cover up for distancing the revolutionary forces from Israeli borders and creating a margin of security for the Zionists, and the Zionist media have also admitted this fact,” he said, Fars News Agency reported..."

"Meanwhile, the commander of Iran’s Basij force, Brig.-Gen.

"Mohammed Reza Naqdi, said on Wednesday that recent attacks by ISIS are part of a new US plot.

“The scene they have created in Iraq is the result of the United States’ behind-the-scene attempts to sow discord and they are certainly the main mastermind of these events,” said Naqdi, Fars reported.

"Naqdi attributed this to the US and its allies’ desire for Iraq’s oil."

Iraq and Syria never posed an existential threat to the Jewish state; however, decades ago both were legitimate states with rights under international law. The US and its ME proxy has decided to break each sovereign state into a series of warring sub-states with no protection under international law.

It seems likely to two greatest threats to peace in the world, the US and Israel, haven't underestimated the threat of blowback on their homelands. The national security state is well established in both "democracies."

Iran army chief accuses Israel of creating ISIS | JPost | Israel News

Muslim governments pointing the finger at Israel, what's new?

I would LOVE to see what evidence they have for this accusation...

Oh, wait....

 

[georgephillip]

ISIS has ambitions beyond Syria and Iraq.
What happens when those plans reach the "shores of Tel Aviv?"

Experts Warn Israel of Possible ISIS Threat - Defense/Security - News - Arutz Sheva

"'Everyone is busy killing one another in the Arab world - it gives Israel a 'time out' to reorganize and to prepare itself for the long run,' Neriah stated.

"'If Iraq falls in the hands of ISIS, then we will have a terrorist state - where terrorists will be trained, will be equipped, will be financed by an [entire] state and not by an organization which is [in] hiding.'"

Even if Iraq doesn't fall, ISIS already holds/controls a substantial amount of real estate.

"The Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (alternatively translated as Islamic State in Iraq and Syria or Islamic State in Iraq and al-Shām) (Arabic: الدولة الاسلامية في العراق والشام* al-Dawlah al-Islāmīyah fī al-ʻIrāq wa-al-Shām or Arabic: داعش* Dāʻish), abbreviated ISIL or ISIS, is an unrecognized state and active jihadist militant group in Iraq and Syria influenced by Wahhabism.[31]

"In its unrecognized self-proclaimed status as an independent state, it claims the territory of Iraq and Syria, with implied future claims intended over more of the Levant, including Lebanon, Israel, Palestine, Jordan, Cyprus, and Southern Turkey.[32][33]

"Several leaders of the organization have claimed that American President George W. Bush's invasion of Iraq in 2003 led them to wage jihad against the U.S., and that American military action made it easier for them to recruit militants and eventually retake control of the country.[34]"

Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

ISIS` influence in Syria is shrinking day by day. ISIS is surrounded by Kurds and other non-ISIS Islamist terrorists. The Islamists send suicide car bombs to each other.
And there is the Syrian Arab Army. The SAA is continuously advancing, this maps show how quickly they retake their homeland from the terrorists:

January 2014:

March 2014:

The most recent map is three months old; whatever amount of Syrian real estate that ISIS winds up with it will likely be contiguous with large swathes of Iraq. The sovereign states of Syria and Iraq will give way to a collection of warring enclaves based largely on religion. Iran could turn out one of the big winners:

"Iranian interference in Syria and Iraq grew strong due to American and Western support and it continues to grow strong because no party attempted to stop it. The West's decision to enter into negotiations with Iran is the first since Khomeini's revolution. The recent Iranian-American rapprochement was due in large part to America's bitterness and hostility towards Al-Qaeda.

"Thus, the US now seeks to strengthen the Shia zone of influence in order to balance the over-whelming Sunni majority.

"Not only will the creation of a strong Shia political power lead Sunni countries to enter a long conflict with Iran, but it will also help Iran achieve its dream of reviving the Persian Empire."

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/articles/middle-east/12261-an-analysis-of-the-events-in-iraq-and-their-regional-implications-

 

[georgephillip]

Israel has been strangely silent about the ISIS freedom fighters success in Syria and Iraq. ..

Iranian and Iraqi leaders are trying to link ISIS with Israel and the US:

"Iranian Army Chief of Staff Gen. Hassan Firouzabadi claimed Wednesday that Israel created and supports the terrorist Islamic State of Iraq and Syria.

“ISIS is Israel’s cover up for distancing the revolutionary forces from Israeli borders and creating a margin of security for the Zionists, and the Zionist media have also admitted this fact,” he said, Fars News Agency reported..."

"Meanwhile, the commander of Iran’s Basij force, Brig.-Gen.

"Mohammed Reza Naqdi, said on Wednesday that recent attacks by ISIS are part of a new US plot.

“The scene they have created in Iraq is the result of the United States’ behind-the-scene attempts to sow discord and they are certainly the main mastermind of these events,” said Naqdi, Fars reported.

"Naqdi attributed this to the US and its allies’ desire for Iraq’s oil."

Iraq and Syria never posed an existential threat to the Jewish state; however, decades ago both were legitimate states with rights under international law. The US and its ME proxy has decided to break each sovereign state into a series of warring sub-states with no protection under international law.

It seems likely to two greatest threats to peace in the world, the US and Israel, haven't underestimated the threat of blowback on their homelands. The national security state is well established in both "democracies."

Iran army chief accuses Israel of creating ISIS | JPost | Israel News

Muslim governments pointing the finger at Israel, what's new?

I would LOVE to see what evidence they have for this accusation...

Oh, wait....

You wouldn't believe it any way.

 

[Bleipriester]

The most recent map is three months old; whatever amount of Syrian real estate that ISIS winds up with it will likely be contiguous with large swathes of Iraq. The sovereign states of Syria and Iraq will give way to a collection of warring enclaves based largely on religion. Iran could turn out one of the big winners:

"Iranian interference in Syria and Iraq grew strong due to American and Western support and it continues to grow strong because no party attempted to stop it. The West's decision to enter into negotiations with Iran is the first since Khomeini's revolution. The recent Iranian-American rapprochement was due in large part to America's bitterness and hostility towards Al-Qaeda.

"Thus, the US now seeks to strengthen the Shia zone of influence in order to balance the over-whelming Sunni majority.

"Not only will the creation of a strong Shia political power lead Sunni countries to enter a long conflict with Iran, but it will also help Iran achieve its dream of reviving the Persian Empire."

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/a...ents-in-iraq-and-their-regional-implications-

The Syrian army will continue until all parts of Syria are secured. The SAA has the full support of the population, regardless of their faith.

 

[irosie91]

Iranian and Iraqi leaders are trying to link ISIS with Israel and the US:

"Iranian Army Chief of Staff Gen. Hassan Firouzabadi claimed Wednesday that Israel created and supports the terrorist Islamic State of Iraq and Syria.

“ISIS is Israel’s cover up for distancing the revolutionary forces from Israeli borders and creating a margin of security for the Zionists, and the Zionist media have also admitted this fact,” he said, Fars News Agency reported..."

"Meanwhile, the commander of Iran’s Basij force, Brig.-Gen.

"Mohammed Reza Naqdi, said on Wednesday that recent attacks by ISIS are part of a new US plot.

“The scene they have created in Iraq is the result of the United States’ behind-the-scene attempts to sow discord and they are certainly the main mastermind of these events,” said Naqdi, Fars reported.

"Naqdi attributed this to the US and its allies’ desire for Iraq’s oil."

Iraq and Syria never posed an existential threat to the Jewish state; however, decades ago both were legitimate states with rights under international law. The US and its ME proxy has decided to break each sovereign state into a series of warring sub-states with no protection under international law.

It seems likely to two greatest threats to peace in the world, the US and Israel, haven't underestimated the threat of blowback on their homelands. The national security state is well established in both "democracies."

Iran army chief accuses Israel of creating ISIS | JPost | Israel News

Muslim governments pointing the finger at Israel, what's new?

I would LOVE to see what evidence they have for this accusation...

Oh, wait....

You wouldn't believe it any way.

hundreds of millions do believe it-----that is why terrorism is rampant
across the globe

 

[toastman]

Iranian and Iraqi leaders are trying to link ISIS with Israel and the US:

"Iranian Army Chief of Staff Gen. Hassan Firouzabadi claimed Wednesday that Israel created and supports the terrorist Islamic State of Iraq and Syria.

“ISIS is Israel’s cover up for distancing the revolutionary forces from Israeli borders and creating a margin of security for the Zionists, and the Zionist media have also admitted this fact,” he said, Fars News Agency reported..."

"Meanwhile, the commander of Iran’s Basij force, Brig.-Gen.

"Mohammed Reza Naqdi, said on Wednesday that recent attacks by ISIS are part of a new US plot.

“The scene they have created in Iraq is the result of the United States’ behind-the-scene attempts to sow discord and they are certainly the main mastermind of these events,” said Naqdi, Fars reported.

"Naqdi attributed this to the US and its allies’ desire for Iraq’s oil."

Iraq and Syria never posed an existential threat to the Jewish state; however, decades ago both were legitimate states with rights under international law. The US and its ME proxy has decided to break each sovereign state into a series of warring sub-states with no protection under international law.

It seems likely to two greatest threats to peace in the world, the US and Israel, haven't underestimated the threat of blowback on their homelands. The national security state is well established in both "democracies."

Iran army chief accuses Israel of creating ISIS | JPost | Israel News

Muslim governments pointing the finger at Israel, what's new?

I would LOVE to see what evidence they have for this accusation...

Oh, wait....

You wouldn't believe it any way.

Sorry, I don't believe in conspiracy theories like you do.
Everyone knows how Muslim leaders always blame Israel when there is no evidence at all backing up their claim. But there is always that group of people that will believe anything they read if it trashes Israel.

So, about that evidence?