Zone1 Is trump the Antichrist?

[hobelim]

Revelation is an account what was going on in John's own time. He was speaking of Nero.

Ahem, if that was true then Paul was exhorting Christians to SUBMIT to the Antichrist. This is not kosher!

So no. Trump may be the epitome and direct descendant of the talking serpent of old but the Antichrist is a false counterfeit Jesus conjured from the depths of a Roman hell and unleashed on the world in 325ce, a virgin diddling trinity who became a mangod only to be despised rejected tortured and crucified so that "believers" who celebrate his death and eat him in the form of a matzo made by human hands can sin with impunity for life and not die "the death" for defying the Law of my God, because he loved the Roman world so much of course. Derp.

Who wouldn't love a maudlin story about a mangod like that? The devil? lol...

NEWSFLASH!

Everything that you profess to believe about Jesus does not correspond to any real living being ever in existence. You believe in and worship the Antichrist. You might as well have 666 tattooed on the middle of your forehead.

The good news is that the terrifying reign of the Antichrist that believers have been shitting themselves about will end before many realize that they have been living during "the great tribulation" for their entire lives, UNAWARE.

 

[hadit]

Some theologians are beginning to question trump's support from the religious community. So many of the things he says are the antithesis of traditional religion's historic beliefs. From claiming he has never needed to pray for forgiveness to claim he is the chosen one, it's reasonable to question how and why he has such unwavering support from religious leaders. He might be the Antichrist foretold in the Bible.
1. The Wounded Head That Healed
• Revelation 13:3 describes a beast whose mortal wound was healed, and the world worshiped it.
• Trump’s political “death” in 2020 and his dramatic resurgence are interpreted as a symbolic fulfillment of this prophecy.
• His return is seen not as a comeback, but as a resurrection of deception—proof that the beast lives.

2. Blasphemy and Self-Deification
• The Antichrist speaks “great things and blasphemies” (Rev. 13:5).
• Trump’s self-exaltation—calling himself “the chosen one,” standing before churches with a Bible, and accepting praise as a divine instrument—is viewed as blasphemy incarnate.
• To this theologian, Trump does not serve God; he imitates Him to deceive.

3. Deception of the Elect
• Matthew 24:24 warns of false Christs who “will deceive, if possible, even the elect.”
• Evangelical support for Trump, despite his moral contradictions, is seen as the great falling away—a sign that even the faithful have been seduced.
• The theologian sees this as the fulfillment of 2 Thessalonians 2 “the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed.”

4. The Image and the Mark
• Revelation 13:15–17 speaks of an image of the beast and a mark without which none may buy or sell.
• Trump’s likeness appears on flags, coins, and apparel. His name becomes a brand, a symbol of allegiance.
• The theologian interprets this as proto-idolatry—a precursor to the mark of the beast.

5. Lawlessness and Pride
• The Antichrist is “the man of lawlessness” (2 Thess. 2:3), exalting himself above all that is called God.
• Trump’s defiance of legal norms, his disregard for truth, and his elevation of self above nation and law are seen as textbook signs.
• His pride is not strength—it is the serpent’s whisper in human form.

Trump is not merely a political figure—he is the beast foretold. His rise, fall, and return are not coincidences but cosmic signals. The theologian cries out: “Come out of her, my people!” (Rev. 18:4), warning that allegiance to Trump is spiritual compromise, and that the hour of judgment is near.

The short answer is no. The slightly longer answer is absolutely not. I could go on showing you where you went wrong, but you won't listen to me.

 

[Meriweather]

Ahem, if that was true then Paul was exhorting Christians to SUBMIT to the Antichrist.

Paul never exhorted anyone to worship anyone but God. What Paul (and Jesus) supported was (in Jesus' words): Give to Caesar what is Caesar's--and to God what is God's.

 

[hobelim]

Paul never exhorted anyone to worship anyone but God. What Paul (and Jesus) supported was (in Jesus' words): Give to Caesar what is Caesar--and to God what is God's.

Jesus said that in response to someone trying to trick him into committing a crime. His answer was brilliant.

To the average Roman shill standing around it seemed like he was advocating paying taxes and supporting brutal Roman occupation but to the faithful Jewish people standing around there he was saying the exact opposite.

Give Caesar nothing because nothing belonged to Caesar and everything belonged to God especially in Judea.

 

[Meriweather]

Jesus said that in response to someone trying to trick him into committing a crime. His answer was brilliant.

To the average Roman shill standing around it seemed like he was advocating paying taxes and supporting brutal Roman occupation but to the faithful Jewish people there he was saying the exact opposite.

Render unto Caesar nothing because nothing belonged to Caesar and everything belonged to God especially in Judea.

We were talking about Paul and his view on government. Paul was not telling anyone to worship government or government leaders.

 

[Zebra]

Some theologians are beginning to question trump's support from the religious community. So many of the things he says are the antithesis of traditional religion's historic beliefs. From claiming he has never needed to pray for forgiveness to claim he is the chosen one, it's reasonable to question how and why he has such unwavering support from religious leaders. He might be the Antichrist foretold in the Bible.
1. The Wounded Head That Healed
• Revelation 13:3 describes a beast whose mortal wound was healed, and the world worshiped it.
• Trump’s political “death” in 2020 and his dramatic resurgence are interpreted as a symbolic fulfillment of this prophecy.
• His return is seen not as a comeback, but as a resurrection of deception—proof that the beast lives.

2. Blasphemy and Self-Deification
• The Antichrist speaks “great things and blasphemies” (Rev. 13:5).
• Trump’s self-exaltation—calling himself “the chosen one,” standing before churches with a Bible, and accepting praise as a divine instrument—is viewed as blasphemy incarnate.
• To this theologian, Trump does not serve God; he imitates Him to deceive.

3. Deception of the Elect
• Matthew 24:24 warns of false Christs who “will deceive, if possible, even the elect.”
• Evangelical support for Trump, despite his moral contradictions, is seen as the great falling away—a sign that even the faithful have been seduced.
• The theologian sees this as the fulfillment of 2 Thessalonians 2 “the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed.”

4. The Image and the Mark
• Revelation 13:15–17 speaks of an image of the beast and a mark without which none may buy or sell.
• Trump’s likeness appears on flags, coins, and apparel. His name becomes a brand, a symbol of allegiance.
• The theologian interprets this as proto-idolatry—a precursor to the mark of the beast.

5. Lawlessness and Pride
• The Antichrist is “the man of lawlessness” (2 Thess. 2:3), exalting himself above all that is called God.
• Trump’s defiance of legal norms, his disregard for truth, and his elevation of self above nation and law are seen as textbook signs.
• His pride is not strength—it is the serpent’s whisper in human form.

Trump is not merely a political figure—he is the beast foretold. His rise, fall, and return are not coincidences but cosmic signals. The theologian cries out: “Come out of her, my people!” (Rev. 18:4), warning that allegiance to Trump is spiritual compromise, and that the hour of judgment is near.

should have been a poll ....

 

[Zebra]

The Democrat party is most likely to be the anti-Christ.

it is not a person

 

[hobelim]

We were talking about Paul and his view on government. Paul was not telling anyone to worship government or government leaders.

When Paul wrote to SUBMIT to "the governing authorities" OR ELSE the head of the government was Nero who personally organized and unleashed the first of many Christian persecutions. If Nero was the antichrist as you claimed Paul was in essence telling Christians to submit to the Antichrist. Thats the way the cookie crumbles.

 

[wamose]

it is not a person

That's true, but they all seem to be turning into the same totalitarian person.

 

[hobelim]

That's true, but they all seem to be turning into the same totalitarian person.

If people think that God, the supreme being, is a cruel, antisemitic, homophobic, misogynistic, capricious, puerile and perverted petty tyrant "believers" will strive to reflect the image and likeness of that false god, the Antichrist, a trinity that diddled a virgin to become an edible sacrificial Jewish mangod whose supernatural "miracles of the lie" that scripture is to be taken literally does not correspond to any real living being ever in existence.

 

[The Irish Ram]

• Trump’s political “death” in 2020 and his dramatic resurgence are interpreted as a symbolic fulfillment of this prophecy.
• His return is seen not as a comeback, but as a resurrection of deception—proof that the beast lives

Pure speculation and nothing to do with the prophesy. It is not symbolic, it is an actual event.

• Trump’s self-exaltation—calling himself “the chosen one,” standing before churches with a Bible, and accepting praise as a divine instrument—is viewed as blasphemy incarnate.
• To this theologian, Trump does not serve God; he imitates Him to deceive

Pure speculation and has nothing to do with prophesy. Trump has never declared himself God.
My own speculation is that he very well may have been chosen by God to stall the advance of the NWO. His 2 victories have been a lull in the WEF plan. They have had to reset the "Great Reset" twice now and have declared that the only obstacles in their way are Trump and Putin.

• Evangelical support for Trump, despite his moral contradictions, is seen as the great falling away—a sign that even the faithful have been seduced.
• The theologian sees this as the fulfillment of 2 Thessalonians 2 “the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed

Evangelicals still support Trump because of our moral convictions. The perfect Christian President doesn't exist.
The falling away started before Trump decided to run for office. 90% of the kids that are religious starting college, are nonreligious coming out. UNTIL NOW. THIS is what you are seeing in these kids in droves:
Acts 2:17-18
‘In the last days, God says, I will pour out My Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams

There is a video somewhere here where kids were literally singing Bible prophesy.

• Trump’s likeness appears on flags, coins, and apparel. His name becomes a brand, a symbol of allegiance.
• The theologian interprets this as proto-idolatry—a precursor to the mark of the beast

Not even close. Is he going to nail his coins to your right hand or forehead? Truth is, they have, you will not buy or sell without his mark all over Europe. It starts with digital ID's and will progress to the Gates serum that can microchip you with a chip so small it can sit on the end of a needle. The world will love the beast. Trump, not so much. Him they are trying to kill.

The rest of the op is just pure bullshit propaganda...

 

[Lockback]

 

[JLW]

No, the Antichrist is not Trump. The Antichrist has standards.

 

[pal]

No, the Antichrist is not Trump. The Antichrist has standards.

Exactly. Trump is not the Antichrist.

 

[Lockback]

Here's your Antichrist right here: a treasonous creep who has done everything in his power to destroy the country that helped him become a billionaire.
**** him.

 

[DennisPTate]

Some theologians are beginning to question trump's support from the religious community. So many of the things he says are the antithesis of traditional religion's historic beliefs. From claiming he has never needed to pray for forgiveness to claim he is the chosen one, it's reasonable to question how and why he has such unwavering support from religious leaders. He might be the Antichrist foretold in the Bible.
1. The Wounded Head That Healed
• Revelation 13:3 describes a beast whose mortal wound was healed, and the world worshiped it.
• Trump’s political “death” in 2020 and his dramatic resurgence are interpreted as a symbolic fulfillment of this prophecy.
• His return is seen not as a comeback, but as a resurrection of deception—proof that the beast lives.

2. Blasphemy and Self-Deification
• The Antichrist speaks “great things and blasphemies” (Rev. 13:5).
• Trump’s self-exaltation—calling himself “the chosen one,” standing before churches with a Bible, and accepting praise as a divine instrument—is viewed as blasphemy incarnate.
• To this theologian, Trump does not serve God; he imitates Him to deceive.

3. Deception of the Elect
• Matthew 24:24 warns of false Christs who “will deceive, if possible, even the elect.”
• Evangelical support for Trump, despite his moral contradictions, is seen as the great falling away—a sign that even the faithful have been seduced.
• The theologian sees this as the fulfillment of 2 Thessalonians 2 “the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed.”

4. The Image and the Mark
• Revelation 13:15–17 speaks of an image of the beast and a mark without which none may buy or sell.
• Trump’s likeness appears on flags, coins, and apparel. His name becomes a brand, a symbol of allegiance.
• The theologian interprets this as proto-idolatry—a precursor to the mark of the beast.

5. Lawlessness and Pride
• The Antichrist is “the man of lawlessness” (2 Thess. 2:3), exalting himself above all that is called God.
• Trump’s defiance of legal norms, his disregard for truth, and his elevation of self above nation and law are seen as textbook signs.
• His pride is not strength—it is the serpent’s whisper in human form.

Trump is not merely a political figure—he is the beast foretold. His rise, fall, and return are not coincidences but cosmic signals. The theologian cries out: “Come out of her, my people!” (Rev. 18:4), warning that allegiance to Trump is spiritual compromise, and that the hour of judgment is near.

No, I believe that President Donald J. Trump has a massive "Cyrus Calling" on his life and Presidency that can be better understood if we will read and pray for understanding on Isaiah chapter forty five, verses one to thirteen.

Thus saith the Lord to my anointed Cyrus, whose right hand I have taken hold of, to subdue nations before his face, and to turn the backs of kings, and to open the doors before him, and the gates shall not be shut. 2 I will go before thee, and will humble the great ones of the earth: I will break in pieces the gates of brass, and will burst the bars of iron. 3 And I will give thee hidden treasures, and the concealed riches of secret places: that thou mayest know that I am the Lord who call thee by thy name, the God of Israel. 4 For the sake of my servant Jacob, and Israel my elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have made a likeness of thee, and thou hast not known me. 5 I am the Lord, and there is none else: there is no God, besides me: I girded thee, and thou hast not known me:

6 That they may know who are from the rising of the sun, and they who are from the west, that there is none besides me. I am the Lord, and there is none else: 7 I form the light, and create darkness, I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord that do all these things. 8 Drop down dew, ye heavens, from above, and let the clouds rain the just: let the earth be opened, and bud forth a saviour: and let justice spring up together: I the Lord have created him. 9 Woe to him that gainsayeth his maker, a sherd of the earthen pots: shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it: What art thou making, and thy work is without hands? 10 Woe to him that saith to his father: Why begettest thou? and to the woman: Why dost thou bring forth?

[7] "Create evil": The evils of afflictions and punishments, but not the evil of sin.

11 Thus saith the Lord the Holy One of Israel, his maker: Ask me of things to come, concerning my children, and concerning the work of my hands give ye charge to me. 12 I made the earth: and I created man upon it: my hand stretched forth the heavens, and I have commanded all their host. 13 I have raised him up to justice, and I will direct all his ways: he shall build my city, and let go my captives, not for ransom, nor for presents, saith the Lord the God of hosts.

Douay-Rheims Bible, Isaias (Isaiah) Chapter 45

Catholic Bible Study Online, Douay-Rheims Version. Complete text, index, search, Bible verse, bible story, scripture, book, prophesy, christian ...

www.drbo.org

 

[DennisPTate]

Here's your Antichrist right here: a treasonous creep who has done everything in his power to destroy the country that helped him become a billionaire.
**** him.

Yes, Mr. George Soros is one astonishingly bad dude!

He stated emphatically that he was out to attempt to destroy the USA Economy and the USA Dollar, and he has certainly used his influence to attempt to accomplish just that. BigMedia tends to support George Soros and attempts to do a Wrap Up Smear on his main rival, President Donald J. Trump!

 

[Lockback]

Yes, Mr. George Soros is one astonishingly bad dude!

He stated emphatically that he was out to attempt to destroy the USA Economy and the USA Dollar, and he has certainly used his influence to attempt to accomplish just that. BigMedia tends to support George Soros and attempts to do a Wrap Up Smear on his main rival, President Donald J. Trump!

The American media and their sinister Democrat Party brethren are completely corrupt and in the tank for Soros and the Communists.

 

[OneIsTheWord]

No, just the beginnging

 

[DennisPTate]

The American media and their sinister Democrat Party brethren are completely corrupt and in the tank for Soros and the Communists.

You are absolutely correct!

And we Canadians are not at all better, our CBC has behaved like it was the "Propoganda Arm of Canada's Liberal Party"....... but on the other side of the question, perhaps Pierre Poilievre might have been able to go against the CBC in a manner that would have been less controversial than the way that he chose to tackle the topic?


I might have postulated creating "CBC Volunteerism Dollars and CBC Volunteerish Hours" and postulate marketing the CBC to CANADIAN INVESTORS with a plan to attempt to set in motion a series of events that would lead to proving that the National Debts of both Canada and the USA are significantly practical jokes being played on terribly under informed citizens in both the USA and Canada.

This idea could even be linked to the suggestion that Mr. Wayne Gretzsky should at least talk about campaigning for the office of Prime Minister of Canada?

Thread 'Donald Trump urges Wayne Gretzky to run for prime minister in meeting'

Dec 25, 2024

Here is the deal, hockey is so popular here, perhaps more than anything even religion; that this is probably accurate. It doesn't matter who would be campaigning against him, he could even run an as Independent and have a real chance of winning. His influence has waned significantly though over the years, so he might not have as clear a path as he would like. The late 80s early 90s would have been a good time for this.

Also, he wouldn't be immune to opposition research which might expose more than he'd like after a life of generally squeaky clean existence (as an example, Ovechkin has...

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