Is This the Liberal View of Government?

[Harry Dresden]

how the hell do you guys expect to have any kind of debate the way you talk to each other.....look at me....i treat everyone with respect.....and get treated with respect in return....

 

[Harry Dresden]

This painting should help understand how conservatives feel about government.

is that you in the black crying Sallow?....

Nah, Shallow is the one trying to peak up Jesus' dress....

Jesus wears a dress?.....dont tell NovaSteve.....

 

[Little-Acorn]

No,

A honest supporter of the first world wants investigations into abuses and pushes for improvements in ideas. Name a first world country that doesn't invest in its infrastructure, science or R&D?

Note that when a liberal refers to "a country investing in its infrastructure, science, or R&D", they are invariably including only the tax money spent by government.

The amount actually spent by the country (i.e. citizens and companies directly), even though it is often hugely greater, is seldom mentioned by liberals.

To liberals, government is all.

 

[Uncensored2008]

If you had a dollah you could buy a clue, Unsensible0001.

Let's see, drop the SBA into the slot - out comes a clue..

It reads "Troll, demagogue, hack; as in a _______ grave"

But that would mean you'd have to stop whining and wasting your company's time listening to Nazi songs on Pandora.

And then again..if you weren't doing that..they'd have to pay ya..

Says the guy with the Internationale blaring in the server room...

 

[Uncensored2008]

Oh you have something against workers now?

You are with the free lunch crew?

So you admit they were good little Communists - no different at all than you?

 

[darroll]

The way it is

 

[Geaux4it]

Liberals in a nutshell

-Geaux

The six contradictions of socialism in the United States of America:

1. America is capitalist and greedy - yet half of the population is subsidized.

2. Half of the population is subsidized - yet they think they are victims.

3. They think they are victims - yet their representatives run the government.

4. Their representatives run the government - yet the poor keep getting poorer.

5. The poor keep getting poorer - yet they have things that people in
other countries only dream about.

6. They have things that people in other countries only dream about -
yet they want America to be more like those other
countries.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

No.

Liberal governments include representative governments and democracy.

As opposed to Conservative governments which include rule by force, decree or religion.

Are you saying that Obamacare is not a liberal government policy? For once, I agree with you.

That just leaves me one question, why do you support conservative government policies?

No it's not.

It was hatched by the Heritage Foundation, put up by Bob Dole as an alternative to HillaryCare and implemented by Mitt Romney in Massachusetts.

And it wasn't my first choice..but it's better than nothing.

That's why.

I guess that means you aren't a liberal.

I bet you are the only person that is surprised by that.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Is This the Liberal View of Government?

No, it’s a myth.

Liberals are pragmatists when it comes to social policy and governance, eschewing blind adherence to partisan doctrine and dogma. Liberals advocate policies demonstrated to be effective and likely successful predicated on facts and evidence, with the understanding that there are things government does well and consequently appropriate for government to address, and things government does poorly which should be addressed by the private sector.

Indeed, liberals seek to bring together public and private sectors to utilize the benefits both have to offer.

Liberals are not pragmatists.

 

[Indeependent]

Is This the Liberal View of Government?

No, it’s a myth.

Liberals are pragmatists when it comes to social policy and governance, eschewing blind adherence to partisan doctrine and dogma. Liberals advocate policies demonstrated to be effective and likely successful predicated on facts and evidence, with the understanding that there are things government does well and consequently appropriate for government to address, and things government does poorly which should be addressed by the private sector.

Indeed, liberals seek to bring together public and private sectors to utilize the benefits both have to offer.

Liberals are not pragmatists.

And Conservatives are TOO pragmatic.
That's how Europe became divided between the British and French Empires.
Gee, that foreign low wage labor was simply too pragmatic to pass over.
And all you needed was an ever shrinking over-taxed Mercantile Class to finance that pragmatism...Sound familiar?

 

[KNB]

Is This the Liberal View of Government?

No, it’s a myth.

Liberals are pragmatists when it comes to social policy and governance, eschewing blind adherence to partisan doctrine and dogma. Liberals advocate policies demonstrated to be effective and likely successful predicated on facts and evidence, with the understanding that there are things government does well and consequently appropriate for government to address, and things government does poorly which should be addressed by the private sector.

Indeed, liberals seek to bring together public and private sectors to utilize the benefits both have to offer.

Liberals are not pragmatists.

And right-wing Christian Conservatives are?

 

[mamooth]

"Bitter conservative ideologues tell those dirty liberals what they really believe. Film at 11."

Ideologues don't understand pragmastism, of course. That's why the right can't recognize it, much less engage in it.

 

[Darkwind]

Is This the Liberal View of Government?

No.

Liberal governments include representative governments and democracy.

As opposed to Conservative governments which include rule by force, decree or religion.

Because Obamacare (A liberal law, conceived in tyranny) is not placed upon us by force, by religious cultists that worship a phoney global warming God.

Yeah....

 

[Indeependent]

Is This the Liberal View of Government?

No.

Liberal governments include representative governments and democracy.

As opposed to Conservative governments which include rule by force, decree or religion.

Because Obamacare (A liberal law, conceived in tyranny) is not placed upon us by force, by religious cultists that worship a phoney global warming God.

Yeah....

The ACA is simply a straw man argument.
Our Free Market (Alone amongst the nations) is what got us to this point.

And if someone can't run a business without illegals or business visas, I suggest not going into business.

 

[Little-Acorn]

Is This the Liberal View of Government?

Indeed, liberals seek to bring together public and private sectors to utilize the benefits both have to offer.

And they fail, every time, due to their fundamental misunderstanding that normal people believe the government they created, must play in their lives.

And then they try again, using the same tactics and misunderstanding, only more so, and they fail yet again.

And then they try yet again, ad infinitum.

And with each failure, their conviction increases that someone other than themselves and their philosophy are at fault.

And they become even more inexplicably convinced that if they apply even more liberalism (socialism), they will eventually succeed.

 

[Pheonixops]

Is This the Liberal View of Government?

No.

Liberal governments include representative governments and democracy.

As opposed to Conservative governments which include rule by force, decree or religion.

Because Obamacare (A liberal law, conceived in tyranny) is not placed upon us by force, by religious cultists that worship a phoney global warming God.

Yeah....

If it was truly a Liberal law, it would have been voluntary and not mandatory.

 

[Mojo2]

Is This the Liberal View of Government?

No.

Liberal governments include representative governments and democracy.

As opposed to Conservative governments which include rule by force, decree or religion.

You reveal your UK orientation.

When has the US had a "Conservative government"?

And when have Conservatives ever ruled by decree, force or religion?

Your strawman exists ONLY in your fuzzy brained head.

You sick, lyin, self-deluded bastard.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Is This the Liberal View of Government?

No.

Liberal governments include representative governments and democracy.

As opposed to Conservative governments which include rule by force, decree or religion.

You reveal your UK orientation.

When has the US had a "Conservative government"?

And when have Conservatives ever ruled by decree, force or religion?

Your strawman exists ONLY in your fuzzy brained head.

You sick, lyin, self-deluded bastard.

You can call him a sick, deluded, lying bastard - or you can just call him Shallow...

 

[BlindBoo]

Nope.

But both sides in DC believe "that the federal government is an irreplaceable tool for making Congressmen(and those that support them) richer."

 

[Uncensored2008]

No.

Liberal governments include representative governments and democracy.

As opposed to Conservative governments which include rule by force, decree or religion.

Because Obamacare (A liberal law, conceived in tyranny) is not placed upon us by force, by religious cultists that worship a phoney global warming God.

Yeah....

If it was truly a Liberal law, it would have been voluntary and not mandatory.

Obama would never support anything that was truly liberal, nor would the democratic party.

Leftism is the antithesis of liberalism.