Is this really your president? Cause he isn't mine.

[Anathema]

And I'm not either. And you're an idiot magaturd. The 1st amendment gives you that opportunity

Actually I’m NOT a MAGA support. At least not a Trumpist MAGA supporter. I do believe we need to Make America Great Again; but I don’t believe DJT is the one who can do that.

 

[francoHFW]

It WAS the United States of America. That name was wrongly usurped by a group of power mongers willing to allow 600,000+ people to die in order to force Federal Supremacy on the entirety on a nation; even after a dozen states attempted to peacefully remove themselves from the nation.

So slavery. lol. What I don't like about 1861 was it was the beginning of the corporate industrial GOP giveaway to the rich BS wing of the party. We can thank them any number of corrupt bubbles and busts. A million before Woodrow Wilson and then 1929!!!! 1989 2008...Trump would have had one after 7 years, but did it with silly vax advice in 2020.

 

[Anathema]

So slavery. lol. What I don't like about 1861 was it was the beginning of the corporate industrial GOP giveaway to the rich BS wing of the party

I have no use for either party. I don’t believe the US Government should be giving to anyone who isn’t employed by the government (which should be a fairly minimal number of people).

 

[surada]

Current "leader" my eye.

I thought you were an American.

 

[francoHFW]

They are nowhere near strong enough. The power of each individual STATE needs to supersede that of the Federal Government, just as the powers of the Counties and Cities/Towns need to supersede those of the State Government.

That is the only way for a truely decent Government to exist.

What we need is 8 years of Dem landslide and no more gop garbage propaganda...living wage daycare free health care, great infrastructure and vacations, CHEAP COLLEGE AND TRAINING, TAXING THE RICH, AN ID CARD TO STOP ILLEGAL WORKERS...like every other modern country....

I have no use for either party. I don’t believe the US Government should be giving to anyone who isn’t employed by the government (which should be a fairly minimal number of people).

The days of go west young man is over, no frontier anymore. Time to grow up and make our economy fair and invest in America and Americans again...That small gov't GOP baloney just means a giveaway to the rich- and back to poor houses and potters fields and gilded age misery.....And I want a six week vacation like everyone else dammit. I am retired tho...

 

[BULLDOG]

He is the American president until kicked out of office by the voters or the Senate, sad to say, but he is extremely divisive and, after this cannot hope to effectively govern the entire nation. He is now limited to imposing his will by force, always hoping the last yank on the chain won't be the one that ignites the final fire.

Just because you intend to be a whiny baby and oppose everything he does, you don't think he is an effective president? Thats silly. He's already accomplished a lot, even with you pouting in the corner.

 

[francoHFW]

They are nowhere near strong enough. The power of each individual STATE needs to supersede that of the Federal Government, just as the powers of the Counties and Cities/Towns need to supersede those of the State Government.

That is the only way for a truely decent Government to exist.

Man there would be lots of horrible places lol....like Mississippi

 

[Anathema]

What we need is 8 years of Dem landslide and no more gop garbage propaganda...living wage daycare free health care, great infrastructure and vacations, CHEAP COLLEGE AND TRAINING, TAXING THE RICH, AN ID CARD TO STOP ILLEGAL WORKERS...like every other modern country....

You truly DO want blood in the streets and another UNcovil war, don’t you?

Have you ever thought that many of our ancestors came here because they DIDN’T want to be just like every European country?

If modern Europe is “civilization”, give me barbarism every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

The days of go west young man is over, no frontier anymore. Time to grow up and make our economy fair and invest in America and Americans again...That small gov't GOP baloney just means a giveaway to the rich- and back to poor houses and potters fields and gilded age misery

The days of Go West are only over because there’s nowhere left to go. YOU grow up and realize Fairness doesn’t exist and never did. I know that all too well from personal experience.

I’d rather give my money to the rich than the poor. I’ve never gotten anything from a poor man. I have from the rich.

I have great admiration for the gilded age, thank you very much.

Man there would be lots of horrible places lol....like Mississippi

I’m more than fine with that.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Actually I’m NOT a MAGA support. At least not a Trumpist MAGA supporter. I do believe we need to Make America Great Again; but I don’t believe DJT is the one who can do that.

Fine. I won't refer to you as a magaturd. MAGA is a bumper sticker. America has always been great. I'm an unapologetic never Trumper, not a liberal, nor progressive.

 

[francoHFW]

You truly DO want blood in the streets and another UNcovil war, don’t you?

Have you ever thought that many of our ancestors came here because they DIDN’T want to be just like every European country?

If modern Europe is “civilization”, give me barbarism every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

The days of Go West are only over because there’s nowhere left to go. YOU grow up and realize Fairness doesn’t exist and never did. I know that all too well from personal experience.

I’d rather give my money to the rich than the poor. I’ve never gotten anything from a poor man. I have from the rich.

I have great admiration for the gilded age, thank you very much.

I’m more than fine with that.

The Gilded Age was a horror for the huge majority. Read "The Good Old Days- They Were Terrible!". We haven't had such bad inequality and upward mobility again UNTIL NOW!! You hate life in NZ and Oz too? Same damn thing. It is fair capitalism and democracy, known as SOCIALISM everywhere but savage capitalist English speakers. NOT COMMUNISM dammit lol....

Getting fair capitalism and good vacations lol will not turn us into overpopulated, perhaps OVER civilized EU...We can continue to be crazy a-holes lol...

 

[francoHFW]

You truly DO want blood in the streets and another UNcovil war, don’t you?

Have you ever thought that many of our ancestors came here because they DIDN’T want to be just like every European country?

If modern Europe is “civilization”, give me barbarism every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

The days of Go West are only over because there’s nowhere left to go. YOU grow up and realize Fairness doesn’t exist and never did. I know that all too well from personal experience.

I’d rather give my money to the rich than the poor. I’ve never gotten anything from a poor man. I have from the rich.

I have great admiration for the gilded age, thank you very much.

I’m more than fine with that.

You're from New England and you think Mississippi is great. You are kind of a babbling idiot....lol. I like the Berkshires but not my gd prep school and like RI.

The Europe they left was monarchies and war scarred, now it's perhaps too fair and civilized....and crowded...I blame the GOP BC/abortion crap...luckily WNY has less people than the fifties, but too damn many GOP law and order rural cops...

 

[Anathema]

America has always been great. I'm an unapologetic never Trumper, not a liberal, nor progressive

No it has not always been great, and most certainly is not in this day and age.

It sounds like you’re a moderate/centrist Republican; which is just as bad as being a Stalinist Progressive in my mind.

 

[surada]

You truly DO want blood in the streets and another UNcovil war, don’t you?

Have you ever thought that many of our ancestors came here because they DIDN’T want to be just like every European country?

If modern Europe is “civilization”, give me barbarism every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

The days of Go West are only over because there’s nowhere left to go. YOU grow up and realize Fairness doesn’t exist and never did. I know that all too well from personal experience.

I’d rather give my money to the rich than the poor. I’ve never gotten anything from a poor man. I have from the rich.

I have great admiration for the gilded age, thank you very much.

I’m more than fine with that.

Have you been to Europe?

 

[Anathema]

The Gilded Age was a horror for the huge majority. Read "The Good Old Days- They Were Terrible!". We haven't had such bad inequality and upward mobility again UNTIL NOW!!

I’m a student of medieval and renaissance history.,I know how unpleasant those days were. I still find them preferable to this modern Western society. I’m not a believer in Equslity, Freedom, societal mobility, etc…

You hate life in NZ and Oz too? Same damn thing. It is fair capitalism and democracy,

Don’t know. I don’t study foreign nations, as there is nothing there I have any interest in.

Getting fair capitalism and good vacations lol will not turn us into overpopulated, perhaps OVER civilized EU...We can continue to be crazy a-holes lol...

I’m not willing to take a chance on that. Fairness isn’t actually possible except through equity, which I’ll die before I’m involved with.

 

[Anathema]

Have you been to Europe?

Nope. Only time I’ve ever been out of the US was on a Caribbean cruise and I never got off the ship.,

 

[surada]

Nope. Only time I’ve ever been out of the US was on a Caribbean cruise and I never got off the ship.,

Europe is quite nice.. very clean and they have a high standard of living, great healthcare and education. I've been many times and lived in Switzerland for a year.

 

[bodecea]

If you live in the U.S. he is your President just like Trump was!

He may not live in the U.S.....we have lots of foreign trolls on our forums.

 

[Anathema]

Europe is quite nice.. very clean and they have a high standard of living, great healthcare and education. I've been many times and lived in Switzerland for a year

The Europe I would prefer is the original Wurope. That one that has crumbled into stone dust if it wasn’t destroyed durin WWII. The medieval Europe.

When things are provided by the government instead of being earned; I don’t consider it living.

I would be thst “angry American “ tourist thst most Europeans hate.

 

[bodecea]

Nope. Only time I’ve ever been out of the US was on a Caribbean cruise and I never got off the ship.,

Sad

 

[Anathema]

Sad

I didn’t want to be on the cruise to begin with. It was our fifth anniversary trip. My wife had always wanted to do a cruise. So we did a cruise.