Is this Khashoggi Killing going to Turn out to be Trump's Benghazi, in a weird sort of way??

[Uncensored2008]

What did you know, and when did you know it, Mr President?

Did you know thru intelligence that Khashoggi was in Danger before he went to Turkey, Mr. President?

Why are you lying, with and for, a Saudi Prince, about his brutal, grotesque and cruel murder, Mr. President?

What's so weird about it? Tolerating gross violations of human rights has been the US Mid East policy for decades.

maybe it has been, but at least we pretended like it mattered...

we attacked Iraq for what the 15 Saudi terrorists did on 9/11!

Exactly. We attacked Iraq.

Stormy is it true trump has a micro penis?

You can find out here.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GC83R9T/?tag=usmb-20

Why read a book by some worn out prostitute?

If you want a real book, read https://www.amazon.com/Militant-Nor...cracy/dp/154608195X&tag=ff0d01-20?tag=usmb-20

 

[RealDave]

What did you know, and when did you know it, Mr President?

Did you know thru intelligence that Khashoggi was in Danger before he went to Turkey, Mr. President?

Why are you lying with and for, a Saudi Prince, and his brutal, grotesque and cruel murder, Mr. President?

Trump has nothing to do with this, dumbass, so how could it possible be "his Benghazi?" Did the guy work for Trump?

And you know this how?? Did the Saudis tell Trump, Kushner they would take care of this reporter for writing bad things about Trump? Did the Saudis consider the reporter an enemy of the Saudi government like Trump says?

So now you're claiming that Trump has to prove he had nothing to do with it despite the total lack of evidence? Did you morons learn nothing from the Kavanaugh hearings?

There is a question about Trump's believing the Saudi story. It is why is he doing it?

1) he actually thinks this older man picked a fight with 18 men & he was killed & then sawed up with a bone saw that was conveniently brought in by these18 mem.
2) Trump thinks the Saudis were involved but does not want to risk getting then pissed off at America and does not care about global repercussions and the US reputation for human rights.
3) He does not want ti puss off one of his better customers for his personal business.
4) He OK'd the plan all the way with the idea he would back them up.

Why are these possible?

1) Trump's history of lying
2 His refusing to divest of his personal businesses
3) His obvious past decisions that benefited his personal business

Here is what we learned about the Kavanaugh fiasco

1) 80% of the documentation regarding Kavanaugh was hidden
2) The Senate considered Kavanaugh in an election year when they refused Garland
3) In 2016, the people had to decide, in 2017 the voters can't decide
4) The confirmation process was rushed
5) An accusser stepped forward about a sexual assault. Republicans called her a liar. Trump mocked her. Both testified before the committee. Ford was calm. Kav was nutso, screaming, crying, & lied under oath.
6) the FBI was ordered to investigate. Trump lied about the scope. Many were not even questioned. Ford & Kav not questioned.

We learned what a lying bunch Trump, McConnell & grassley are.

This is why we know Rump will accept the Saudi story even though most know it is total bullshit.

Trump will cover up a Country murdering mmbers of the press & political opponents like he did with Putim, Kim, Duterte.

And we have learned that the Republican Party will do nothing.

We learned that the Trumpettes also don't care that our once great country has because a laughing stock as it embraces despots, steals children, and creates a trade war over nothing.

MAGA? What ******* idiot thinks this is making America great?

 

[JustAnotherNut]

So now you're claiming that Trump has to prove he had nothing to do with it despite the total lack of evidence? Did you morons learn nothing from the Kavanaugh hearings?

Trump isn't calling Khashoggi just a guy in an embassy killed "randomly" as he happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Hmmmmm . . . . so?

*sigh* How short the memories.

Obabble dismissed the Islamic slaying of Jews in a deli in France as just being some folks in the wrong place at the wrong time.

He also went to play golf right after James Foley was beheaded by ISIS (and did nothing to save him).

He also gave $1.5 billion in cash to the Iranians, along with a host of other goodies.

It was a settlement on a long time dispute about arms sales.

so they say.....but timing is everything. Don't forget he paid that sum right after our people were taken captive, and as soon as he paid it they were released

 

[OldLady]

Missing journalist Jamal Khashoggi had a complicated past involving interviews with Osama bin Laden and close ties to the Saudi royal family

Some actual historical perspective is needed. This article provides some.

Trump isn’t “covering up” for anyone.

Here is another good article.

Missing Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi’s ties to Osama bin Laden explained

Seems to have more substance than just blaming Trump.

This is just like the "some good people on both sides" all over again. People are going to scream and argue about it for days. Trump is amoral and all decisions rest on the $$ involved. So we might as well hang it up.
Congress won't force the issue, either. Maybe they'll send a proclamation or whatever it is they do.

 

[RealDave]

Yes, because some Arab being killed by another in a foreign shithole is so important to the US.

He was a legal American Resident and an American Journalist.

But that matters naught!

We speak OUT against the brutal murdering of people who have never been charged or tried.

Like the couple in Britain poisoned by Putin

Like Kim's brutal killing of his brother in another country.

And like the journalists around the world being murdered by their authoritarian govts.

We do not create an alibi for the murderers out in the public for everyone to see, as Trump has tried to do.... it gives these murderers a THUMBS UP, and that simply IS NOT what we stand for, as the leader of the free world, as a democracy....

Trump has made a mistake in doing what he did.... own it!

I still can't get over the level of stupidity this thread offers.

How many journalists were beheaded, burned and drowned during Obama's tenure? Some of the ACTUAL CITIZENS.

You're such a hack it defies logic

Has any President in our History, come forth as Trump did and try to CREATE a STORY and excuse for the murderer?

Really?

I do not understand the defending of Trump, on this matter?

Even Trumpsters, should KNOW President Trump should not be out there making up an excuse for the murderer in front of the whole world.

Sheesh

Those defending this,

moral compasses, have gone haywire, imo!

Obama made excuses for black thugs who attacked white people. He also constantly made excuses for the mass slaughter conducted by Muslim Jihadists.

He also made excuses for murdering a 16 year old American citizen. A murder HE personally ordered.

Has any president other than Obama ordered the murder of the CHILD of an enemy?

EVER?

But Care4all doesn't give a shit, only the party matters.

That American citizen that moved to Yemen & trained bombers to attack Americans.

Al Alwaki's son was NOT the target of the strike in which he was killed.

So you are once again proved to be a lying **** when you said Obama order him killedc.

 

[OldLady]

What did you know, and when did you know it, Mr President?

Did you know thru intelligence that Khashoggi was in Danger before he went to Turkey, Mr. President?

Why are you lying with and for, a Saudi Prince, and his brutal, grotesque and cruel murder, Mr. President?

Trump has nothing to do with this, dumbass, so how could it possible be "his Benghazi?" Did the guy work for Trump?

Even if you find Trump on top of your wife, you will find him an excuse....dude take a break from sucking his sack of nuts.

"Excuse" for what? How is Trump involved with this? It takes a special kind of stupid to blame Trump for something the U.S. government had no involvement with whatsoever.

Not talking about this specific thing....but you are his virtual lawyer...I wanna see you once admit he fucked up....and god knows he does everyday multiple times.

I'll tell you how he fucked up on this issue.

1. He promised to be tough on Saudi arabia.
2. Je broke the promise by dancing with them.
3. He gave the ok for his son in law to strike deals with Saudis and cozy up to them.
4. The hypocrite never called the Saudis on their crimes against humanity in Yemen and sanctioned.
5. He sent the fat Pompeo to have a cup of tea with the murderer and smile for photos.

Islamic governments murder dissidents all the time.

What would you like Trump to do?

Human rights in Iran - Wikipedia

Obama delivered pallets of cash to Iran. The Iranian government murders people all the time.

As you know, we owed that money to them from years before. We had held back the payment due to sanctions because of Iran's bad behavior, and an international court finally found in their favor and told us to cough it up.
So we did.

 

[RealDave]

Trump isn't calling Khashoggi just a guy in an embassy killed "randomly" as he happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Hmmmmm . . . . so?

*sigh* How short the memories.

Obabble dismissed the Islamic slaying of Jews in a deli in France as just being some folks in the wrong place at the wrong time.

He also went to play golf right after James Foley was beheaded by ISIS (and did nothing to save him).

He also gave $1.5 billion in cash to the Iranians, along with a host of other goodies.

It was a settlement on a long time dispute about arms sales.

so they say.....but timing is everything. Don't forget he paid that sum right after our people were taken captive, and as soon as he paid it they were released

The Sadis tranfered a 100 million the other day. Paying off Trumo???

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Khashoggi has absolutely nothing to do with us.

 

[OldLady]

Trump has nothing to do with any of this. Did the Washington post know of the danger and send him anyway?

He didn't really work for the Post. He was a free lancer who wrote occasional opinion pieces that were picked up by the Post.


16 Journalists were murdered in Mexico over the summer - not a peep from the fascist press. Why is this guy the 24/7 news cycle?

Were they killed by the government? I don't think the government was stupid enough to do it in their own offices, if they did.

 

[Uncensored2008]

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That American citizen that moved to Yemen & trained bombers to attack Americans.

Al Alwaki's son was NOT the target of the strike in which he was killed.

So you are once again proved to be a lying **** when you said Obama order him killedc.

No motherfucking liar, that American Citizen was the CHILD of Al Alwaki. Obama murdered the CHILD as a message to the father.

Again, has any American president EVER done something so heinous?

Obama is more Robert Mugabe than Robert Kennedy.

 

[RealDave]

What's so weird about it? Tolerating gross violations of human rights has been the US Mid East policy for decades.

maybe it has been, but at least we pretended like it mattered...

we attacked Iraq for what the 15 Saudi terrorists did on 9/11!

Exactly. We attacked Iraq.

Stormy is it true trump has a micro penis?

You can find out here.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GC83R9T/?tag=usmb-20

Why read a book by some worn out prostitute?

If you want a real book, read https://www.amazon.com/Militant-Nor...cracy/dp/154608195X&tag=ff0d01-20?tag=usmb-20

Good enough for Trump to have an affair. You probably get exciting thinking about Trump kissing the lips that sucked a thousand dicks.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Trump has nothing to do with this, dumbass, so how could it possible be "his Benghazi?" Did the guy work for Trump?

Even if you find Trump on top of your wife, you will find him an excuse....dude take a break from sucking his sack of nuts.

"Excuse" for what? How is Trump involved with this? It takes a special kind of stupid to blame Trump for something the U.S. government had no involvement with whatsoever.

Not talking about this specific thing....but you are his virtual lawyer...I wanna see you once admit he fucked up....and god knows he does everyday multiple times.

I'll tell you how he fucked up on this issue.

1. He promised to be tough on Saudi arabia.
2. Je broke the promise by dancing with them.
3. He gave the ok for his son in law to strike deals with Saudis and cozy up to them.
4. The hypocrite never called the Saudis on their crimes against humanity in Yemen and sanctioned.
5. He sent the fat Pompeo to have a cup of tea with the murderer and smile for photos.

Islamic governments murder dissidents all the time.

What would you like Trump to do?

Human rights in Iran - Wikipedia

Obama delivered pallets of cash to Iran. The Iranian government murders people all the time.

As you know, we owed that money to them from years before. We had held back the payment due to sanctions because of Iran's bad behavior, and an international court finally found in their favor and told us to cough it up.
So we did.

Bullshit Comrade Nazi.

We no more "owed that money" than we owe assets seized from the Nazis.

 

[OldLady]

On 60minutes, Trump blasted the situation and he said there would be consequences.

What the **** do left wingers want?

He has you fools spinning in circles.

Trump vows 'severe punishment' if Saudis killed Jamal Khashoggi

We've known for 2 and a half weeks who viciously murdered Khashoggi, what is Trump waiting for...? And during those 2 1/2 weeks he has done nothing but try to help the Prince CREATE a story that was mutually good for both of them.... and that's just awful that he has done that, so openly, imo.

No, we didn't have "evidence." At least not that we could admit to. The "fight breaking out" story is really stupid. Where is his body? Why was it necessary to hide his death? Why did they need to repaint walls? Why 15 guys with a bone saw? Were they the ones who started the fight? Was it 15 to 1?
Dumb explanation that no one anywhere will believe. But for countries that find it advantageous to remain friendly with Saudi Arabia, it will probably do.
I wonder why the UN hasn't been called in yet. I definitely don't agree that the US needs to conduct its own investigation. That is not our playground.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Trump has nothing to do with any of this. Did the Washington post know of the danger and send him anyway?

He didn't really work for the Post. He was a free lancer who wrote occasional opinion pieces that were picked up by the Post.


16 Journalists were murdered in Mexico over the summer - not a peep from the fascist press. Why is this guy the 24/7 news cycle?

Were they killed by the government? I don't think the government was stupid enough to do it in their own offices, if they did.

Yes, they were killed by the Mexican government and the ruling cartels.

But you don't give a shit, the party hasn't programmed you to care about that.


{
Gunmen on Friday killed a Mexican journalist who had received threats after reporting on corruption in the southern state of Chiapas, his newspaper said, in what was at least the ninth murder of a reporter in the country this year.

Mario Gomez, a reporter with El Heraldo de Chiapas, is the latest victim in a wave of violence against the press in Mexico, the second-deadliest country in the world for journalists after war-torn Syria, according to the watchdog group Reporters Without Borders.

"He had recently filed a complaint because he was receiving threats," a colleague at the paper told AFP on condition of anonymity.

Gomez, 35, had also been threatened in 2016 for publishing articles on corruption by two state officials, according to the media rights group Article 19.

El Heraldo said Gomez, a general news correspondent in the town of Yajalon, was leaving his house to go to work when two unidentified men arrived and "murdered him in cold blood" with a series of shots to the abdomen at point-blank range.}

Journalist murdered in Mexico, ninth of 2018

Not a peep from fascist CNN or the Stalinist press of MSNPC.

 

[OldLady]

Even if you find Trump on top of your wife, you will find him an excuse....dude take a break from sucking his sack of nuts.

"Excuse" for what? How is Trump involved with this? It takes a special kind of stupid to blame Trump for something the U.S. government had no involvement with whatsoever.

Not talking about this specific thing....but you are his virtual lawyer...I wanna see you once admit he fucked up....and god knows he does everyday multiple times.

I'll tell you how he fucked up on this issue.

1. He promised to be tough on Saudi arabia.
2. Je broke the promise by dancing with them.
3. He gave the ok for his son in law to strike deals with Saudis and cozy up to them.
4. The hypocrite never called the Saudis on their crimes against humanity in Yemen and sanctioned.
5. He sent the fat Pompeo to have a cup of tea with the murderer and smile for photos.

Islamic governments murder dissidents all the time.

What would you like Trump to do?

Human rights in Iran - Wikipedia

Obama delivered pallets of cash to Iran. The Iranian government murders people all the time.

As you know, we owed that money to them from years before. We had held back the payment due to sanctions because of Iran's bad behavior, and an international court finally found in their favor and told us to cough it up.
So we did.

Bullshit Comrade Nazi.

We no more "owed that money" than we own assets seized from the Nazis.

Well that's a convenient opinion. I guess you'd need to take it up with the Court, though.

 

[Uncensored2008]

"Excuse" for what? How is Trump involved with this? It takes a special kind of stupid to blame Trump for something the U.S. government had no involvement with whatsoever.

Not talking about this specific thing....but you are his virtual lawyer...I wanna see you once admit he fucked up....and god knows he does everyday multiple times.

I'll tell you how he fucked up on this issue.

1. He promised to be tough on Saudi arabia.
2. Je broke the promise by dancing with them.
3. He gave the ok for his son in law to strike deals with Saudis and cozy up to them.
4. The hypocrite never called the Saudis on their crimes against humanity in Yemen and sanctioned.
5. He sent the fat Pompeo to have a cup of tea with the murderer and smile for photos.

Islamic governments murder dissidents all the time.

What would you like Trump to do?

Human rights in Iran - Wikipedia

Obama delivered pallets of cash to Iran. The Iranian government murders people all the time.

As you know, we owed that money to them from years before. We had held back the payment due to sanctions because of Iran's bad behavior, and an international court finally found in their favor and told us to cough it up.
So we did.

Bullshit Comrade Nazi.

We no more "owed that money" than we own assets seized from the Nazis.

Well that's a convenient opinion. I guess you'd need to take it up with the Court, though.

What court Comrade? Obama didn't go to court, he unilaterally bribed the Iranian Mullahs.

 

[JustAnotherNut]

2) Trump thinks the Saudis were involved but does not want to risk getting then pissed off at America and does not care about global repercussions and the US reputation for human rights.

well up until this last week, Saudi Arabia was an ally. Why would Trump want to piss them off by screaming fowl just because Dingbats said so, without more info? It's not good foreign policy...….and normally you'd ***** if he did

2 His refusing to divest of his personal businesses

Any previous President that had a personal business before taking office didn't divest it why should Trump?

3) His obvious past decisions that benefited his personal business

Tell us Carter or Bush or any other business/President didn't make similar decisions


And what we learned about the 'Kavanaugh fiasco'...…..is that Dems make decisions based on political emotion rather than intellect, facts or common sense

 

[OldLady]

Trump has nothing to do with any of this. Did the Washington post know of the danger and send him anyway?

He didn't really work for the Post. He was a free lancer who wrote occasional opinion pieces that were picked up by the Post.


16 Journalists were murdered in Mexico over the summer - not a peep from the fascist press. Why is this guy the 24/7 news cycle?

Were they killed by the government? I don't think the government was stupid enough to do it in their own offices, if they did.

Yes, they were killed by the Mexican government and the ruling cartels.

But you don't give a shit, the party hasn't programmed you to care about that.


{
Gunmen on Friday killed a Mexican journalist who had received threats after reporting on corruption in the southern state of Chiapas, his newspaper said, in what was at least the ninth murder of a reporter in the country this year.

Mario Gomez, a reporter with El Heraldo de Chiapas, is the latest victim in a wave of violence against the press in Mexico, the second-deadliest country in the world for journalists after war-torn Syria, according to the watchdog group Reporters Without Borders.

"He had recently filed a complaint because he was receiving threats," a colleague at the paper told AFP on condition of anonymity.

Gomez, 35, had also been threatened in 2016 for publishing articles on corruption by two state officials, according to the media rights group Article 19.

El Heraldo said Gomez, a general news correspondent in the town of Yajalon, was leaving his house to go to work when two unidentified men arrived and "murdered him in cold blood" with a series of shots to the abdomen at point-blank range.}

Journalist murdered in Mexico, ninth of 2018

Not a peep from fascist CNN or the Stalinist press of MSNPC.

Thank you. I have heard about this on CNN and PBS. It's awful, and the media is VERY concerned. But as your article said, it was "unidentified men." We may very well suspect government officials he had called out for corruption, but like I already said, the Mexican government DID NOT MAKE THE STUPID MISTAKE OF DOING IT IN a government office, hiding the body, and then covering it up for two weeks.

 

[boedicca]

And you know this how?? Did the Saudis tell Trump, Kushner they would take care of this reporter for writing bad things about Trump? Did the Saudis consider the reporter an enemy of the Saudi government like Trump says?

So now you're claiming that Trump has to prove he had nothing to do with it despite the total lack of evidence? Did you morons learn nothing from the Kavanaugh hearings?

Trump isn't calling Khashoggi just a guy in an embassy killed "randomly" as he happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Hmmmmm . . . . so?

*sigh* How short the memories.

Obabble dismissed the Islamic slaying of Jews in a deli in France as just being some folks in the wrong place at the wrong time.

He also went to play golf right after James Foley was beheaded by ISIS (and did nothing to save him).

Trump will give the Saudis a pass on an obvious assassination. What government send the attackers in that deli? What government killed Foley?

The Saudis murdered a US based journalist & Trump is running around doing rallies & lying about it.

 

[JustAnotherNut]

Hmmmmm . . . . so?

*sigh* How short the memories.

Obabble dismissed the Islamic slaying of Jews in a deli in France as just being some folks in the wrong place at the wrong time.

He also went to play golf right after James Foley was beheaded by ISIS (and did nothing to save him).

He also gave $1.5 billion in cash to the Iranians, along with a host of other goodies.

It was a settlement on a long time dispute about arms sales.

so they say.....but timing is everything. Don't forget he paid that sum right after our people were taken captive, and as soon as he paid it they were released

The Sadis tranfered a 100 million the other day. Paying off Trumo???

sucka…...try again

Saudi Arabia 'Coincidentally' Wires $100 Million To U.S. Amid Khashoggi Controversy | HuffPost

The payment, which the Saudis had committed to in August, reportedly arrived on the same day that Pompeo landed in Riyadh.