Is this is our future?

[night_son]

WeChat and the Surveillance State

The above linked story is actually about what happened to a journalist from the BBC who was discussing with friends on mainland China about what was happening in Hong Kong during the recent protest.

Apparently, the truth about what transpired in Tiananmen Square is suppressed in China.

Which brings us to our current situation here in America. I'm sure that the above photo has evoked a sense of awareness in some. We are starting to see this right.

We also know that the US government is doing what it can to suppress the truth in America. They have been prosecuting whistle blowers in record numbers and currently have Julian Assange under indictment for disseminating the truth. For disclosing war crimes, for defending the defenseless.

The implications are real. We've already lost our government to a plutocracy. We are about to lose what little remains of a government watchdog. The winners in this battle, the plutocrats, will not only write the history, they will also control our present reality. Realize that the government and the plutocrats are essentially one.


Opinion -The Thought Police Are Coming

I agree. Just re-watched and reread 1984. The parallels between Orwell's fictional "future" and our burgeoning tech-tyrant colossus society are stunning. Very soon, if not already prevalent, social credit will be the only currency we struggle to accumulate; a currency no one wants to bank and everyone can't practically breathe without.

 

[Tehon]

You are an entirely ridiculous person, a perfect stereotype of a rage-filled brainless Trumpbot. Your master would be proud.

You are a total moron and an NPC. Perfect example of anti-American socialist. CNN is proud about their programming.

Look here Trumpbot, I am going to tell you something the snake-oil salesmen you listen to will never tell you. The red scare is a quaint old custom that only elderly assholes fall for. I am not a socialist as I grew up understanding the term but you people slinging the term around willy-nilly has robbed it of it stigma. Now it simply means not being a hateful dick like you.

More insults, more stupidity....

Yes, you are not a socialist in how you grew up understanding the term. You are a socialist in how Americans grew up understanding the term. Big government European style ultra high tax rates... free stuff for all, and of course... the open border so that Americans can be replaced with more socialists from Mexico.

An anti-liberty dysgenic shit-storm. Judging by cities in California you can take that last part literally.

Socialism means government ownership of the means of production. That's it. You are confusing that with the political/economic system in place in the entire civilized world. It's like you people calling yourselves conservative when you no longer fit the dictionary definition of not really wanting to change things much.

A typically half-assed definition of socialism but it is good to see one of you admit that "socialism means government ownership of the means of production." There is only one way to accomplish that - gov't confiscation of private wealth - and only one way to maintain it … totalitarianism.

Thankfully our prescient Founding Dads had the good sense to establish a constitution that serves to protect us from gov't tyranny, including but not limited to our freedom from unreasonable search & seizure.

If this country ever again must endure massive, violent civil unrest it will be triggered by the WashDC swamp attempting to usurp our constitutional rights and freedoms which have underpinned all this country has accomplished the last 2+ centuries.

They are usurping our rights right under our noses in plain site and all we do about it is nothing. It is all wrapped neatly in this partisan wrapper that no one has the cognitive ability to unwrap.

That is the entire point of this thread.

 

[SAYIT]

You are a total moron and an NPC. Perfect example of anti-American socialist. CNN is proud about their programming.

Look here Trumpbot, I am going to tell you something the snake-oil salesmen you listen to will never tell you. The red scare is a quaint old custom that only elderly assholes fall for. I am not a socialist as I grew up understanding the term but you people slinging the term around willy-nilly has robbed it of it stigma. Now it simply means not being a hateful dick like you.

More insults, more stupidity....

Yes, you are not a socialist in how you grew up understanding the term. You are a socialist in how Americans grew up understanding the term. Big government European style ultra high tax rates... free stuff for all, and of course... the open border so that Americans can be replaced with more socialists from Mexico.

An anti-liberty dysgenic shit-storm. Judging by cities in California you can take that last part literally.

Socialism means government ownership of the means of production. That's it. You are confusing that with the political/economic system in place in the entire civilized world. It's like you people calling yourselves conservative when you no longer fit the dictionary definition of not really wanting to change things much.

A typically half-assed definition of socialism but it is good to see one of you admit that "socialism means government ownership of the means of production." There is only one way to accomplish that - gov't confiscation of private wealth - and only one way to maintain it … totalitarianism.

Thankfully our prescient Founding Dads had the good sense to establish a constitution that serves to protect us from gov't tyranny, including but not limited to our freedom from unreasonable search & seizure.

If this country ever again must endure massive, violent civil unrest it will be triggered by the WashDC swamp attempting to usurp our constitutional rights and freedoms which have underpinned all this country has accomplished the last 2+ centuries.

They are usurping our rights right under our noses in plain site and all we do about it is nothing. It is all wrapped neatly in this partisan wrapper that no one has the cognitive ability to unwrap.

That is the entire point of this thread.

You earlier noted that Trump is a "loose cannon" and the swamp cannot depend on him to cooperate. I'd say we can depend on him not to cooperate and I'd also say that was a major factor in his election.

Rational adults understand one must be willing to take the bad with the good. Idiots rant and rave about tissue stuck to the bottom of his shoe.

 

[occupied]

You are a total moron and an NPC. Perfect example of anti-American socialist. CNN is proud about their programming.

Look here Trumpbot, I am going to tell you something the snake-oil salesmen you listen to will never tell you. The red scare is a quaint old custom that only elderly assholes fall for. I am not a socialist as I grew up understanding the term but you people slinging the term around willy-nilly has robbed it of it stigma. Now it simply means not being a hateful dick like you.

More insults, more stupidity....

Yes, you are not a socialist in how you grew up understanding the term. You are a socialist in how Americans grew up understanding the term. Big government European style ultra high tax rates... free stuff for all, and of course... the open border so that Americans can be replaced with more socialists from Mexico.

An anti-liberty dysgenic shit-storm. Judging by cities in California you can take that last part literally.

Socialism means government ownership of the means of production. That's it. You are confusing that with the political/economic system in place in the entire civilized world. It's like you people calling yourselves conservative when you no longer fit the dictionary definition of not really wanting to change things much.

A typically half-assed definition of socialism but it is good to see one of you admit that "socialism means government ownership of the means of production." There is only one way to accomplish that - gov't confiscation of private wealth - and only one way to maintain it … totalitarianism.

Thankfully our prescient Founding Dads had the good sense to establish a constitution that serves to protect us from gov't tyranny, including but not limited to our freedom from unreasonable search & seizure.

If this country ever again must endure massive, violent civil unrest it will be triggered by the WashDC swamp attempting to usurp our constitutional rights and freedoms which have underpinned all this country has accomplished the last 2+ centuries.

They are usurping our rights right under our noses in plain site and all we do about it is nothing. It is all wrapped neatly in this partisan wrapper that no one has the cognitive ability to unwrap.

That is the entire point of this thread.

You want to discuss cyber-anything with this bunch? They are mostly a bunch geriatric cranks that probably still use internet explorer on a machine they bought from Goodwill 10 years ago.

 

[Norman]

Look here Trumpbot, I am going to tell you something the snake-oil salesmen you listen to will never tell you. The red scare is a quaint old custom that only elderly assholes fall for. I am not a socialist as I grew up understanding the term but you people slinging the term around willy-nilly has robbed it of it stigma. Now it simply means not being a hateful dick like you.

More insults, more stupidity....

Yes, you are not a socialist in how you grew up understanding the term. You are a socialist in how Americans grew up understanding the term. Big government European style ultra high tax rates... free stuff for all, and of course... the open border so that Americans can be replaced with more socialists from Mexico.

An anti-liberty dysgenic shit-storm. Judging by cities in California you can take that last part literally.

Socialism means government ownership of the means of production. That's it. You are confusing that with the political/economic system in place in the entire civilized world. It's like you people calling yourselves conservative when you no longer fit the dictionary definition of not really wanting to change things much.

A typically half-assed definition of socialism but it is good to see one of you admit that "socialism means government ownership of the means of production." There is only one way to accomplish that - gov't confiscation of private wealth - and only one way to maintain it … totalitarianism.

Thankfully our prescient Founding Dads had the good sense to establish a constitution that serves to protect us from gov't tyranny, including but not limited to our freedom from unreasonable search & seizure.

If this country ever again must endure massive, violent civil unrest it will be triggered by the WashDC swamp attempting to usurp our constitutional rights and freedoms which have underpinned all this country has accomplished the last 2+ centuries.

They are usurping our rights right under our noses in plain site and all we do about it is nothing. It is all wrapped neatly in this partisan wrapper that no one has the cognitive ability to unwrap.

That is the entire point of this thread.

You want to discuss cyber-anything with this bunch? They are mostly a bunch geriatric cranks that probably still use internet explorer on a machine they bought from Goodwill 10 years ago.

CS minor here, what are your credentials to make such an outlandishly racist and incorrect statement?

Leftists still stuck on their dinosaur written paper, while we conquered the much more advanced internet. It must hurt...

You must be writing your messages from your commandore 64. That's all that the allowance could afford in mom's basement.

 

[SAYIT]

They are usurping our rights right under our noses in plain site and all we do about it is nothing. It is all wrapped neatly in this partisan wrapper that no one has the cognitive ability to unwrap. That is the entire point of this thread.

You want to discuss cyber-anything with this bunch? They are mostly a bunch geriatric cranks that probably still use internet explorer on a machine they bought from Goodwill 10 years ago.

It's comical that pompous, low-info leftards continue to stick to Shrillary's "basket of deplorables" message.

Allow me to respectfully suggest you run on that again in 2020.

 

[occupied]

More insults, more stupidity....

Yes, you are not a socialist in how you grew up understanding the term. You are a socialist in how Americans grew up understanding the term. Big government European style ultra high tax rates... free stuff for all, and of course... the open border so that Americans can be replaced with more socialists from Mexico.

An anti-liberty dysgenic shit-storm. Judging by cities in California you can take that last part literally.

Socialism means government ownership of the means of production. That's it. You are confusing that with the political/economic system in place in the entire civilized world. It's like you people calling yourselves conservative when you no longer fit the dictionary definition of not really wanting to change things much.

A typically half-assed definition of socialism but it is good to see one of you admit that "socialism means government ownership of the means of production." There is only one way to accomplish that - gov't confiscation of private wealth - and only one way to maintain it … totalitarianism.

Thankfully our prescient Founding Dads had the good sense to establish a constitution that serves to protect us from gov't tyranny, including but not limited to our freedom from unreasonable search & seizure.

If this country ever again must endure massive, violent civil unrest it will be triggered by the WashDC swamp attempting to usurp our constitutional rights and freedoms which have underpinned all this country has accomplished the last 2+ centuries.

They are usurping our rights right under our noses in plain site and all we do about it is nothing. It is all wrapped neatly in this partisan wrapper that no one has the cognitive ability to unwrap.

That is the entire point of this thread.

You want to discuss cyber-anything with this bunch? They are mostly a bunch geriatric cranks that probably still use internet explorer on a machine they bought from Goodwill 10 years ago.

CS minor here, what are your credentials to make such an outlandishly racist and incorrect statement?

Leftists still stuck on their dinosaur written paper, while we conquered the much more advanced internet. It must hurt...

You must be writing your messages from your commandore 64. That's all that the allowance could afford in mom's basement.

You're educated? I'd get my money back.

 

[Norman]

Socialism means government ownership of the means of production. That's it. You are confusing that with the political/economic system in place in the entire civilized world. It's like you people calling yourselves conservative when you no longer fit the dictionary definition of not really wanting to change things much.

A typically half-assed definition of socialism but it is good to see one of you admit that "socialism means government ownership of the means of production." There is only one way to accomplish that - gov't confiscation of private wealth - and only one way to maintain it … totalitarianism.

Thankfully our prescient Founding Dads had the good sense to establish a constitution that serves to protect us from gov't tyranny, including but not limited to our freedom from unreasonable search & seizure.

If this country ever again must endure massive, violent civil unrest it will be triggered by the WashDC swamp attempting to usurp our constitutional rights and freedoms which have underpinned all this country has accomplished the last 2+ centuries.

They are usurping our rights right under our noses in plain site and all we do about it is nothing. It is all wrapped neatly in this partisan wrapper that no one has the cognitive ability to unwrap.

That is the entire point of this thread.

You want to discuss cyber-anything with this bunch? They are mostly a bunch geriatric cranks that probably still use internet explorer on a machine they bought from Goodwill 10 years ago.

CS minor here, what are your credentials to make such an outlandishly racist and incorrect statement?

Leftists still stuck on their dinosaur written paper, while we conquered the much more advanced internet. It must hurt...

You must be writing your messages from your commandore 64. That's all that the allowance could afford in mom's basement.

You're educated? I'd get my money back.

I have multiple degrees.

You should get your money back indeed. You were offered complete trash. Then you can update to a proper machine.

 

[occupied]

They are usurping our rights right under our noses in plain site and all we do about it is nothing. It is all wrapped neatly in this partisan wrapper that no one has the cognitive ability to unwrap. That is the entire point of this thread.

You want to discuss cyber-anything with this bunch? They are mostly a bunch geriatric cranks that probably still use internet explorer on a machine they bought from Goodwill 10 years ago.

It's comical that pompous, low-info leftards continue to stick to Shrillary's "basket of deplorables" message.

Allow me to respectfully suggest you run on that again in 2020.

Why are you even arguing that the bulk of this board's Trump supporters are old white guys? Been here long enough to know.

 

[occupied]

A typically half-assed definition of socialism but it is good to see one of you admit that "socialism means government ownership of the means of production." There is only one way to accomplish that - gov't confiscation of private wealth - and only one way to maintain it … totalitarianism.

Thankfully our prescient Founding Dads had the good sense to establish a constitution that serves to protect us from gov't tyranny, including but not limited to our freedom from unreasonable search & seizure.

If this country ever again must endure massive, violent civil unrest it will be triggered by the WashDC swamp attempting to usurp our constitutional rights and freedoms which have underpinned all this country has accomplished the last 2+ centuries.

They are usurping our rights right under our noses in plain site and all we do about it is nothing. It is all wrapped neatly in this partisan wrapper that no one has the cognitive ability to unwrap.

That is the entire point of this thread.

You want to discuss cyber-anything with this bunch? They are mostly a bunch geriatric cranks that probably still use internet explorer on a machine they bought from Goodwill 10 years ago.

CS minor here, what are your credentials to make such an outlandishly racist and incorrect statement?

Leftists still stuck on their dinosaur written paper, while we conquered the much more advanced internet. It must hurt...

You must be writing your messages from your commandore 64. That's all that the allowance could afford in mom's basement.

You're educated? I'd get my money back.

I have multiple degrees.

You should get your money back indeed. You were offered complete trash. Then you can update to a proper machine.

It's even sadder that with all that education you sound like a regular old run-of-the-mill Trumpbot.

 

[Norman]

They are usurping our rights right under our noses in plain site and all we do about it is nothing. It is all wrapped neatly in this partisan wrapper that no one has the cognitive ability to unwrap.

That is the entire point of this thread.

You want to discuss cyber-anything with this bunch? They are mostly a bunch geriatric cranks that probably still use internet explorer on a machine they bought from Goodwill 10 years ago.

CS minor here, what are your credentials to make such an outlandishly racist and incorrect statement?

Leftists still stuck on their dinosaur written paper, while we conquered the much more advanced internet. It must hurt...

You must be writing your messages from your commandore 64. That's all that the allowance could afford in mom's basement.

You're educated? I'd get my money back.

I have multiple degrees.

You should get your money back indeed. You were offered complete trash. Then you can update to a proper machine.

It's even sadder that with all that education you sound like a regular old run-of-the-mill Trumpbot.

Everything which doesn't 100% agree with the opinion of a CNN NPC sounds like a Trump bot. You don't need a higher education degree to know that.

 

[SAYIT]

They are usurping our rights right under our noses in plain site and all we do about it is nothing. It is all wrapped neatly in this partisan wrapper that no one has the cognitive ability to unwrap. That is the entire point of this thread.

You want to discuss cyber-anything with this bunch? They are mostly a bunch geriatric cranks that probably still use internet explorer on a machine they bought from Goodwill 10 years ago.

It's comical that pompous, low-info leftards continue to stick to Shrillary's "basket of deplorables" message.

Allow me to respectfully suggest you run on that again in 2020.

Why are you even arguing that the bulk of this board's Trump supporters are old white guys? Been here long enough to know.

I'm not arguing that the bulk of this board's Trump supporters are old white guys ... you are, and your arrogant opinion is that they are a "basket of deplorables."

Again, allow me to respectfully suggest you run on that again in 2020.

 

[occupied]

You want to discuss cyber-anything with this bunch? They are mostly a bunch geriatric cranks that probably still use internet explorer on a machine they bought from Goodwill 10 years ago.

CS minor here, what are your credentials to make such an outlandishly racist and incorrect statement?

Leftists still stuck on their dinosaur written paper, while we conquered the much more advanced internet. It must hurt...

You must be writing your messages from your commandore 64. That's all that the allowance could afford in mom's basement.

You're educated? I'd get my money back.

I have multiple degrees.

You should get your money back indeed. You were offered complete trash. Then you can update to a proper machine.

It's even sadder that with all that education you sound like a regular old run-of-the-mill Trumpbot.

Everything which doesn't 100% agree with the opinion of a CNN NPC sounds like a Trump bot. You don't need a higher education degree to know that.

I meant that you sound like someone who is uneducated. Your opinions are cookie-cutter Trumpbot and as uninformed as someone who has never read a book.

 

[Norman]

CS minor here, what are your credentials to make such an outlandishly racist and incorrect statement?

Leftists still stuck on their dinosaur written paper, while we conquered the much more advanced internet. It must hurt...

You must be writing your messages from your commandore 64. That's all that the allowance could afford in mom's basement.

You're educated? I'd get my money back.

I have multiple degrees.

You should get your money back indeed. You were offered complete trash. Then you can update to a proper machine.

It's even sadder that with all that education you sound like a regular old run-of-the-mill Trumpbot.

Everything which doesn't 100% agree with the opinion of a CNN NPC sounds like a Trump bot. You don't need a higher education degree to know that.

I meant that you sound like someone who is uneducated. Your opinions are cookie-cutter Trumpbot and as uninformed as someone who has never read a book.

Why the hell would I care what someone living in his mother's basements tapped to CNN thinks? You could not complete real education if your life dependent on it. Gender studies is not education.

 

[occupied]

They are usurping our rights right under our noses in plain site and all we do about it is nothing. It is all wrapped neatly in this partisan wrapper that no one has the cognitive ability to unwrap. That is the entire point of this thread.

You want to discuss cyber-anything with this bunch? They are mostly a bunch geriatric cranks that probably still use internet explorer on a machine they bought from Goodwill 10 years ago.

It's comical that pompous, low-info leftards continue to stick to Shrillary's "basket of deplorables" message.

Allow me to respectfully suggest you run on that again in 2020.

Why are you even arguing that the bulk of this board's Trump supporters are old white guys? Been here long enough to know.

I'm not arguing that the bulk of this board's Trump supporters are old white guys ... you are, and your arrogant opinion is that they are a "basket of deplorables."

Again, allow me to respectfully suggest you run on that again in 2020.

I'm an old white guy, I'm just not a dumbass with impaired reading comprehension. If I deplore anything it is the stereotype of a bitter old reactionary crank that so many seem to embrace. We all get old but if I live to be a hundred I will never be as old as some of these people are in their minds sitting around bitching about a world I no longer want to understand.

 

[occupied]

You're educated? I'd get my money back.

I have multiple degrees.

You should get your money back indeed. You were offered complete trash. Then you can update to a proper machine.

It's even sadder that with all that education you sound like a regular old run-of-the-mill Trumpbot.

Everything which doesn't 100% agree with the opinion of a CNN NPC sounds like a Trump bot. You don't need a higher education degree to know that.

I meant that you sound like someone who is uneducated. Your opinions are cookie-cutter Trumpbot and as uninformed as someone who has never read a book.

Why the hell would I care what someone living in his mother's basements tapped to CNN thinks? You could not complete real education if your life dependent on it. Gender studies is not education.

I've had an exceptional education and I live in a house I own outright. Guess again.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

WeChat and the Surveillance State

The above linked story is actually about what happened to a journalist from the BBC who was discussing with friends on mainland China about what was happening in Hong Kong during the recent protest.

Apparently, the truth about what transpired in Tiananmen Square is suppressed in China.

Which brings us to our current situation here in America. I'm sure that the above photo has evoked a sense of awareness in some. We are starting to see this right.

We also know that the US government is doing what it can to suppress the truth in America. They have been prosecuting whistle blowers in record numbers and currently have Julian Assange under indictment for disseminating the truth. For disclosing war crimes, for defending the defenseless.

The implications are real. We've already lost our government to a plutocracy. We are about to lose what little remains of a government watchdog. The winners in this battle, the plutocrats, will not only write the history, they will also control our present reality. Realize that the government and the plutocrats are essentially one.


Opinion -The Thought Police Are Coming

“We also know that the US government is doing what it can to suppress the truth in America.”

No, we don’t.

Granted, the current administration is hostile to the truth, contriving and propagating all manner of lies and misinformation, but the Federal government in general is not involved in any such conspiracy, with officials both elected and appointed speaking out against Trump’s lies and dishonesty.

And if Assange should stand trial in the United States, it won’t be in an effort to ‘silence’ him; Assange will be afforded comprehensive due process and the presumption of innocence.

As usual the problem isn’t ‘the government’ – the problem is the ignorance, stupidity, and apathy of the American people, Trump supporters being the most recent and glaring example.

We have met the enemy and he is us.

 

[whitehall]

Funny how nobody complained when the former president used the IRS to punish political enemies and used the FBI to illegally conduct a surveillance on a political opponent but apparently a BBC story gets the left all hysterical about something they call the "thought police" during a republican administration

 

[Pete7469]

Yes, those are the policies that I disagree with. The ones that marginalize your voice.

I appreciate that, but it's also a matter of private property.

Further, when certain voices are suppressed they gain a aura of "taboo" which attracts attention. This is why I support free speech. I want people to be able to be exposed to ALL speech, so they're free to choose between nanny state collectivism and equal misery enforced through omnipotent government, or a system that has already proven to produce the highest standards of living for the most people with opportunities to achieve vast wealth like no other place on earth.

So I'm happy that AssBook and Google have gone out of their way to revise history and suppress speech. It seems like my point of view is winning. I'm going to guess you see that also, much to your chagrin.

.

 

[anynameyouwish]

You mean the Technical Cleansing? That's not the future, that is now.... and the usual left wing communists are the originators.

"You mean the Technical Cleansing? That's not the future, that is now.... and the usual left wing communists are the originators."


By pointing to the left and ignoring the right you become part of the problem.

A rational reasonable person would be clever enough to understand that BOTH sides are waging war on "free speech" and "thought".


By accusing the left and defending the right you are helping the right to do what you say you don't want.