Is There Scientific Evidence Supporting the Floor of Noah?

[progressive hunter]

I don't think you can explain in your own words how we know how old the Earth and universe is. Yet, you believe the lie.

I don’t spend too much time contemplating the age or origin of the the earth and universe. However I do recognize overwhelming evidence (radiometric dating) that the age of the earth is measured in billions of years by very smart people who study it. In the last 100 years or so man’s knowledge has taken huge leaps. These knowledge leaps have ushered in the computer age and dispelled many old beliefs. But many people just like to believe dumb things, and there is really no harm in you thinking the earth is 6000 years old. Just like there is no harm in believing in Big Foot.

I believe there is a god, and I can believe there is a god while also believing the earth is billions of years old.

I guess you didnt know that RC dating doesnt go beyond 60K YRS

You are referring to radiocarbon dating or RC. That is not the same thing as radiometric dating. Clearly you are out of your element here, and I have been down this road with your ilk before. It always ends the same way. That is with me shaking my head that people can be so misinformed. So consider my head shook. I really don’t give a crap if you want to go through life believing in Santa Clause, the Easter bunny, big foot, or earth is 6000 years old.

Scientist Realizes Important Flaw in Radioactive Dating

The author of that website...

"This is the homepage of Dr. Jay L. Wile, who holds an earned PhD in nuclear chemistry. He is best known as the author of award-winning elementary, junior and senior high school science courses including the Science through HisStory (sic)"

Not sure a Junior High science teacher who can't spell "History" is an authoritative source on the subject.

like they say,,,
when you cant debunk the message attack the messenger,,,


there are other sources for the same info

 

[rightwinger]

How exactly did the rock layer bend? Was it the flood waters or the continents scooting all over the place?

It was chemistry from the sediments and water as the rock layer formed and the water and land pressure bent the layer while it hardened.

Once it hardened under water, there is no way to soften it and bend it again like unbaking a cake. The concrete will break.

Not sure what 'land pressure' is but please don't bother to explain, it would just make my head hurt.

As to 'there is no way to soften it and bend it', don't you think that lava is softened rock? Ever watch glass being blown? Once heated enough the solid glass flows easily.

but heat would leave a sign, and there are none

Metamorphic rock

you need another source than wikipedia,,,we all know the are more than biased,,,

Less biased than the Bible

 

[progressive hunter]

There does seem to be overwhelming evidence that certain proofs are being systematically ignored or redefined or hidden, in order to eliminate possible "confusion".

All ancient cultures in the Mesopotamian region tell a Great Flood story.

The conclusion, there was a great flood. Just saying the term "flood" implies they are familiar with flooding.

So the question is not if there was a great flood, the question is how far did it extend? Was it global?

Obviously it wasn't or the flora and fauna would all have died. It was devastating coastal flooding and it happened at different times and at different places all over the world. Rivers flood. Seas flooded during the glacial melt after the last ice age. There were floods. It is all pretty interesting.
Evidence suggests that more recently, about 7,600 years ago, at the end of a long dry period, it was flooded when the Mediterranean, having again become separate, broke through at the Bosporus, an event that may have scattered farmers from its shores into Europe and Asia. Some scientists have hypothesized that this event happened catastrophically and is the source of the biblical story of the Deluge.
Black Sea | Encyclopedia.com

Noah saved the animals, he did not save plants

All vegetative matter would have been flooded with over 20,000 feet of water for months. As water receded, it would have been covered in silt and sediment

It would take generations to recover, most would not

how do you know all was under 20K ft of water???

The flood covered the land
Mt Everest is 29,000 feet

today it is,,,

 

[fncceo]

I don’t spend too much time contemplating the age or origin of the the earth and universe. However I do recognize overwhelming evidence (radiometric dating) that the age of the earth is measured in billions of years by very smart people who study it. In the last 100 years or so man’s knowledge has taken huge leaps. These knowledge leaps have ushered in the computer age and dispelled many old beliefs. But many people just like to believe dumb things, and there is really no harm in you thinking the earth is 6000 years old. Just like there is no harm in believing in Big Foot.

I believe there is a god, and I can believe there is a god while also believing the earth is billions of years old.

I guess you didnt know that RC dating doesnt go beyond 60K YRS

You are referring to radiocarbon dating or RC. That is not the same thing as radiometric dating. Clearly you are out of your element here, and I have been down this road with your ilk before. It always ends the same way. That is with me shaking my head that people can be so misinformed. So consider my head shook. I really don’t give a crap if you want to go through life believing in Santa Clause, the Easter bunny, big foot, or earth is 6000 years old.

Scientist Realizes Important Flaw in Radioactive Dating

The author of that website...

"This is the homepage of Dr. Jay L. Wile, who holds an earned PhD in nuclear chemistry. He is best known as the author of award-winning elementary, junior and senior high school science courses including the Science through HisStory (sic)"

Not sure a Junior High science teacher who can't spell "History" is an authoritative source on the subject.

like they say,,,
when you cant debunk the message attack the messenger,,,


there are other sources for the same info

Which is strange you should choose him as your source.

 

[progressive hunter]

It was chemistry from the sediments and water as the rock layer formed and the water and land pressure bent the layer while it hardened.

Once it hardened under water, there is no way to soften it and bend it again like unbaking a cake. The concrete will break.

Not sure what 'land pressure' is but please don't bother to explain, it would just make my head hurt.

As to 'there is no way to soften it and bend it', don't you think that lava is softened rock? Ever watch glass being blown? Once heated enough the solid glass flows easily.

but heat would leave a sign, and there are none

Metamorphic rock

you need another source than wikipedia,,,we all know the are more than biased,,,

Less biased than the Bible

when did I refer to the bible???

 

[progressive hunter]

I guess you didnt know that RC dating doesnt go beyond 60K YRS

You are referring to radiocarbon dating or RC. That is not the same thing as radiometric dating. Clearly you are out of your element here, and I have been down this road with your ilk before. It always ends the same way. That is with me shaking my head that people can be so misinformed. So consider my head shook. I really don’t give a crap if you want to go through life believing in Santa Clause, the Easter bunny, big foot, or earth is 6000 years old.

Scientist Realizes Important Flaw in Radioactive Dating

The author of that website...

"This is the homepage of Dr. Jay L. Wile, who holds an earned PhD in nuclear chemistry. He is best known as the author of award-winning elementary, junior and senior high school science courses including the Science through HisStory (sic)"

Not sure a Junior High science teacher who can't spell "History" is an authoritative source on the subject.

like they say,,,
when you cant debunk the message attack the messenger,,,


there are other sources for the same info

Which is strange you should choose him as your source.

its called google and he was at the top of a long list of articles

 

[Dick Foster]

I thought pretty much everyone had dirt floors back then but if scientists say there's evidence Noah had flooring back then, it must be true. Was it Pergo? Pergo is good stuff, it looks like wood but wears like steel.

 

[Indeependent]

God is stupid. He made plants before sunlight.

Which Genesis story did you read? The very first thing G-d created was light. Vegetation was created on Day 3.

Actually, Dark (Choshek) was created first and it enveloped Light (Or).

He created the heavens and the earth ... they were dark, so he lit them. The say way we created VR worlds in Blender.

Read the verse...light was enveloped by darkness.
Light always has to emerge from darkness.
We also don’t really concretely know what shemayim and eretz are.

1. In the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth.


2Now the earth was astonishingly empty, and darkness was on the face of the deep, and the spirit of God was hovering over the face of the water.


3And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light.

4And God saw the light that it was good, and God separated between the light and between the darkness.

5And God called the light day, and the darkness He called night, and it was evening and it was morning, one day.

The way I read that is that G-d created the universe originally in the dark. He provided light to all corners of the universe. Then he created separate areas of light and dark.

Rashi's commentary complicates this by claiming the order of events in scripture aren't necessarily the order in which they happened.

The midrash quotes various verses in Tanach that elaborate on these verses.
The first thing that was created was a “dark” fire.
The word y’hee indicates bringing something that exists into another state, thus Or being drawn out of Choshek.
I can’t translate these words because the more I study the more I realize how bad the translations are.
Choshek is a paralyzing force.
Or is an invigorating force.
Some say that Choshek is really Or as perceived by fools.

 

[Indeependent]

There does seem to be overwhelming evidence that certain proofs are being systematically ignored or redefined or hidden, in order to eliminate possible "confusion".

All ancient cultures in the Mesopotamian region tell a Great Flood story.

The conclusion, there was a great flood. Just saying the term "flood" implies they are familiar with flooding.

So the question is not if there was a great flood, the question is how far did it extend? Was it global?

Obviously it wasn't or the flora and fauna would all have died. It was devastating coastal flooding and it happened at different times and at different places all over the world. Rivers flood. Seas flooded during the glacial melt after the last ice age. There were floods. It is all pretty interesting.
Evidence suggests that more recently, about 7,600 years ago, at the end of a long dry period, it was flooded when the Mediterranean, having again become separate, broke through at the Bosporus, an event that may have scattered farmers from its shores into Europe and Asia. Some scientists have hypothesized that this event happened catastrophically and is the source of the biblical story of the Deluge.
Black Sea | Encyclopedia.com

Noah saved the animals, he did not save plants

All vegetative matter would have been flooded with over 20,000 feet of water for months. As water receded, it would have been covered in silt and sediment

It would take generations to recover, most would not

how do you know all was under 20K ft of water???

The flood covered the land
Mt Everest is 29,000 feet

Are there living creatures on Mt. Everest.
Mt. Ever Rest...sounds very peaceful.

 

[fncceo]

Carl Sagan tells a story about reading the book "Worlds in Collision" by Emmanuel Velikovski. In that book, Velikovski attributes all the events of biblical history to cosmological events. For example, Velikovski claims that when Joshua stopped the sun in the sky, that was actually caused by a comet passing close to the Earth that slowed Earth's rotation.

Sagan remarked to an Anthropologist friend that while the Physics and Astronomy in the book were clearly impossible, he was impressed by the historical detail in the book.

His friend only laughed and said that the historical detail disagreed with every modern-day scholar, but that he was impressed by the detailed Physics and Astronomy presented in the book.

 

[fncceo]

Are there living creatures on Mt. Everest.

There are a lot of dead ones lately.

 

[fncceo]

Which Genesis story did you read? The very first thing G-d created was light. Vegetation was created on Day 3.

Actually, Dark (Choshek) was created first and it enveloped Light (Or).

He created the heavens and the earth ... they were dark, so he lit them. The say way we created VR worlds in Blender.

Read the verse...light was enveloped by darkness.
Light always has to emerge from darkness.
We also don’t really concretely know what shemayim and eretz are.

1. In the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth.


2Now the earth was astonishingly empty, and darkness was on the face of the deep, and the spirit of God was hovering over the face of the water.


3And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light.

4And God saw the light that it was good, and God separated between the light and between the darkness.

5And God called the light day, and the darkness He called night, and it was evening and it was morning, one day.

The way I read that is that G-d created the universe originally in the dark. He provided light to all corners of the universe. Then he created separate areas of light and dark.

Rashi's commentary complicates this by claiming the order of events in scripture aren't necessarily the order in which they happened.

The midrash quotes various verses in Tanach that elaborate on these verses.
The first thing that was created was a “dark” fire.
The word y’hee indicates bringing something that exists into another state, thus Or being drawn out of Choshek.
I can’t translate these words because the more I study the more I realize how bad the translations are.
Choshek is a paralyzing force.
Or is an invigorating force.
Some say that Choshek is really Or as perceived by fools.

I think we can agree that light came before vegetation ... at least if we take the order as presented in scripture.

 

[Moonglow]

Is There Scientific Evidence Supporting the Floor of Noah?

Well that's a deep subject. While the majority believe that God flooded the Earth and not Noah it is confirmed he was on the floor of the Ark most of the time with sea sickness...

 

[Moonglow]

Actually, Dark (Choshek) was created first and it enveloped Light (Or).

He created the heavens and the earth ... they were dark, so he lit them. The say way we created VR worlds in Blender.

Read the verse...light was enveloped by darkness.
Light always has to emerge from darkness.
We also don’t really concretely know what shemayim and eretz are.

1. In the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth.


2Now the earth was astonishingly empty, and darkness was on the face of the deep, and the spirit of God was hovering over the face of the water.


3And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light.

4And God saw the light that it was good, and God separated between the light and between the darkness.

5And God called the light day, and the darkness He called night, and it was evening and it was morning, one day.

The way I read that is that G-d created the universe originally in the dark. He provided light to all corners of the universe. Then he created separate areas of light and dark.

Rashi's commentary complicates this by claiming the order of events in scripture aren't necessarily the order in which they happened.

The midrash quotes various verses in Tanach that elaborate on these verses.
The first thing that was created was a “dark” fire.
The word y’hee indicates bringing something that exists into another state, thus Or being drawn out of Choshek.
I can’t translate these words because the more I study the more I realize how bad the translations are.
Choshek is a paralyzing force.
Or is an invigorating force.
Some say that Choshek is really Or as perceived by fools.

I think we can agree that light came before vegetation ... at least if we take the order as presented in scripture.

And the invasion of Earth by the Tardigrade was now set in motion.

 

[fncceo]

Is There Scientific Evidence Supporting the Floor of Noah?

Well that's a deep subject. While the majority believe that God flooded the Earth and not Noah it is confirmed he was on the floor of the Ark most of the time with sea sickness...

Forget about seasickness ... can you imagine what the bottom of that ark looked like after all those months?

 

[Moonglow]

Are there living creatures on Mt. Everest.

There are a lot of dead ones lately.

I bet something is feasting upon his intestines as we speak.

 

[Moonglow]

Is There Scientific Evidence Supporting the Floor of Noah?

Well that's a deep subject. While the majority believe that God flooded the Earth and not Noah it is confirmed he was on the floor of the Ark most of the time with sea sickness...

Forget about seasickness ... can you imagine what the bottom of that ark looked like after all those months?

It was easy just to slide along on the floor.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Bullshit! Every civilization with documented history has writings about a great flood.

Yes, and a great fire, and a great plague, blah blah blah....

Yet still your ignorant ass came to be. Thinking you're smarter than all that proceeded you and shit. Yeah, no. You're an indoctrinated ignorant dipshit, sucks to be you. Maybe you could change and grow, IDGAF. You don't make my world go 'round ary a bit.

I suppose I should be more empathetic, but you're a fuckin' fucktard, so I'm all out of ***** to give.

Damn you are whiny.

No, there was no great flood, shaman gay cowboy.

 

[dannyboys]

Noah's Ark must be real. I personally have a piece of the "floor".
Bought it on EBAY for only $500.

 

[dannyboys]

Is There Scientific Evidence Supporting the Floor of Noah?

Well that's a deep subject. While the majority believe that God flooded the Earth and not Noah it is confirmed he was on the floor of the Ark most of the time with sea sickness...

Forget about seasickness ... can you imagine what the bottom of that ark looked like after all those months?

THe scrapings from the floor are often found in vegan main courses.