Is the US to blame for all of Cuba's ills?

[Tom Paine 1949]

The Cuban government won't allow Americans to trade freely with Cuban citizens.
The Cuban government won't allow Americans to freely invest in Cuban businesses.

This is certainly partly true, but the whole point is to get this to change over time, as has been the case with the Europeans. This is precisely why the U.S. should end the blockade — to put the burden of explaining the CP’s unwillingness to open up more … on the Cuban CP!

 

[gipper]

What stupid thing to claim since the rest of the world has been trading with Cuba for decades now.

Fact check: US embargo doesn't prevent Cuba from trading with other countries​

Daniel Funke
USA TODAY
July 15, 2021

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The rest of the world has been free to trade with Cuba for the last 46 years, even some trade between America and Cuba exist too.

There is no true blockade anymore.

Wrong again. The US has effectively prevented much of the world from trading with Cuba. It has also sabotaged their economy in many heinous ways.

Get informed. Please.

 

[gipper]

What were our horrendous "attacks"?
How could our "attacks" kill any Cubans?
Be specific.

See? Right there proves you don’t know what’s going on. Get informed. It’s not hard.

 

[Sunsettommy]

What stupid thing to claim since the rest of the world has been trading with Cuba for decades now.

Wrong again. The US has effectively prevented much of the world from trading with Cuba. It has also sabotaged their economy in many heinous ways.

Get informed. Please.

CUBA

China,
Spain
Germany
Cyprus
Hong Kong
Portugal
France
Russia
Canada
Brazil
Australia
Turkey
Japan
Singapore
Macau
United States
Turkey
Belgium
Poland
Netherlands
Sweden
Slovakia
Argentina
Chile
Uruguay
Columbia
Mexico
Canada
Costa Rica
United Kingdom
Switzerland
Greece

These nations are listed as trade partners for year 2019.

You should get informed first before making a fool of yourself, this trade openness has been this way for many years now to varying degree.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

This is certainly partly true, but the whole point is to get this to change over time

So, in the meantime, we'd be directly supporting their commie dictators?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

See? Right there proves you don’t know what’s going on. Get informed. It’s not hard.

It must be so complicated that you can't give any specifics.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

Toddsterpatriot not only quotes me out of context, but confuses advocating free trade and the basic human rights to travel and support one’s family with … “directly supporting” a particular government. Pathetic.

 

[d0gbreath]

Couldn't we annex Cuba and rename it East Florida?

 

[gipper]

CUBA

China,
Spain
Germany
Cyprus
Hong Kong
Portugal
France
Russia
Canada
Brazil
Australia
Turkey
Japan
Singapore
Macau
United States
Turkey
Belgium
Poland
Netherlands
Sweden
Slovakia
Argentina
Chile
Uruguay
Columbia
Mexico
Canada
Costa Rica
United Kingdom
Switzerland
Greece

These nations are listed as trade partners for year 2019.

You should get informed first before making a fool of yourself, this trade openness has been this way for many years now to varying degree.

Give me the list of trading partners from 1960 to 2000.

 

[gipper]

It must be so complicated that you can't give any specifics.

Yes apparently specifics are required because you’re a DUMB ASS.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Toddsterpatriot not only quotes me out of context, but confuses advocating free trade and the basic human rights to travel and support one’s family with … “directly supporting” a particular government. Pathetic.

Well, if all trade and all investment goes thru the commie government, you'd be
supporting the commie government.

Sorry if that was too complex for your simple mind.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yes apparently specifics are required because you’re a DUMB ASS.

Now you can run away.......because it's all too complex. LOL!

 

[AZrailwhale]

CUBA

China,
Spain
Germany
Cyprus
Hong Kong
Portugal
France
Russia
Canada
Brazil
Australia
Turkey
Japan
Singapore
Macau
United States
Turkey
Belgium
Poland
Netherlands
Sweden
Slovakia
Argentina
Chile
Uruguay
Columbia
Mexico
Canada
Costa Rica
United Kingdom
Switzerland
Greece

These nations are listed as trade partners for year 2019.

You should get informed first before making a fool of yourself, this trade openness has been this way for many years now to varying degree.

Cuba's problem is that it doesn't produce much of anything in demand on the world's markets. It's businesses are poorly run by the party and scarce resources are allocated to the powerful party members, not the needy people. At least Venezuela had oil before the party appointed hacks destroyed the oil business there.

 

[gipper]

Now you can run away.......because it's all too complex. LOL!

Lol. You failed to watch the Dore vid I posted above. Much of the information you are completely unaware of is discussed there.

 

[gipper]

This is certainly partly true, but the whole point is to get this to change over time, as has been the case with the Europeans. This is precisely why the U.S. should end the blockade — to put the burden of explaining the CP’s unwillingness to open up more … on the Cuban CP!

The problem with that is our rapacious oligarchs don’t want to take the chance that communism might succeed.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Lol. You failed to watch the Dore vid I posted above. Much of the information you are completely unaware of is discussed there.

The Dore video will explain how we're responsible for Cuban deaths?

 

[Rigby5]

CUBA

China,
Spain
Germany
Cyprus
Hong Kong
Portugal
France
Russia
Canada
Brazil
Australia
Turkey
Japan
Singapore
Macau
United States
Turkey
Belgium
Poland
Netherlands
Sweden
Slovakia
Argentina
Chile
Uruguay
Columbia
Mexico
Canada
Costa Rica
United Kingdom
Switzerland
Greece

These nations are listed as trade partners for year 2019.

You should get informed first before making a fool of yourself, this trade openness has been this way for many years now to varying degree.

Sure , by 2019.
But we were not discussing the fact the US has dropped most of the illegal trade sanctions against Cuba since Castro died.
We were discussing how the US used to illegally try to prevent any country from trading with Cuba,

 

[Rigby5]

Well, if all trade and all investment goes thru the commie government, you'd be
supporting the commie government.

Sorry if that was too complex for your simple mind.

Which is everyone's first amendment right.
You can not legally dictate who anyone does business with in the US, unless there is a declared war.

 

[struth]

And the discussion is whether or not our sanctions helped or hurt their situation.

Nobody has been able to argue where it has helped.

sure it has…have you not been paying attention to the people protesting for a new free govt?

 

[struth]

Which is everyone's first amendment right.
You can not legally dictate who anyone does business with in the US, unless there is a declared war.

where did you get this idea that the US. Govt can’t regulate international trade?