Is The Next Civil War Going Down Right Now?

Has Civil War part two already begun in 2020 America?


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You're so spoiled that a little civil unrest has you thinking the end is nigh. This kind of thing happens all the time somewhere, it's just been while for us. Things will return to new normal at some point and things will be fine. Going to be a historic summer though.

I don't want your new normal.
Too bad, it's the way of the world and I accept that I have no control of it. Maybe the stupidest thing you can do is take society personally, it's like thinking bad weather is there just to ruin your day.
 
The Second Civil War in America will be over the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution.
Amendment II said:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

The prefatory clause reads, "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, ..."
Whether the right enumerated is intended to be conditioned on this clause or it's just being stated as a fact, no one should doubt its truth and satisfaction.

Move on, now, to the operative clause: "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

The right of the people is a universal human right, as for example those enumerated in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
To keep and bear Arms is to possess and carry firearms in more modern language.
Shall not be infringed is plain as day. There are to be no exceptions. Gun ownership is not to be made subject to registration, training, interstate commerce, background checks, mental health, honorable discharge, or any other qualifications. Anything else is High Treason against the Constitution of the United States of America, punishable by death.

The Second Civil War is just as much about slavery as the First Civil War was. Without our guns, we are slaves.

Excellent insight. Very possible.
 
You're so spoiled that a little civil unrest has you thinking the end is nigh. This kind of thing happens all the time somewhere, it's just been while for us. Things will return to new normal at some point and things will be fine. Going to be a historic summer though.

I don't want your new normal.
Too bad, it's the way of the world and I accept that I have no control of it. Maybe the stupidest thing you can do is take society personally, it's like thinking bad weather is there just to ruin your day.

So you think bad weather burns down stores and murders civilians for ideological causes, do you? Every last cow in every herd on the planet thinks the same: whatever's gonna happen, does. Until their turn in line to become Big Macs comes up.
 
The Second Civil War in America will be over the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution.
Amendment II said:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

The prefatory clause reads, "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, ..."
Whether the right enumerated is intended to be conditioned on this clause or it's just being stated as a fact, no one should doubt its truth and satisfaction.

Move on, now, to the operative clause: "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

The right of the people is a universal human right, as for example those enumerated in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
To keep and bear Arms is to possess and carry firearms in more modern language.
Shall not be infringed is plain as day. There are to be no exceptions. Gun ownership is not to be made subject to registration, training, interstate commerce, background checks, mental health, honorable discharge, or any other qualifications. Anything else is High Treason against the Constitution of the United States of America, punishable by death.

The Second Civil War is just as much about slavery as the First Civil War was. Without our guns, we are slaves.
It seems to me that the anti-2nd amendment side would be severely outgunned.
 
Typically I am among the first to debunk such flights of internet fantasy with extreme prejudice. The average rational minded American has in the past seemed to believe such events as those that transpired from 1861-65 could never possibly repeat on our domestic soil; soil that remains forever drenched in the blood and ringing screams of our boys who died to reunite America some one-hundred and fifty-five years ago. I used to agree with them. Like the rest of sane America, I once believed our civilization had paid off in full its blood debt.

However, more recent national events have served to not only change my mind about the possibility of civil war America 2.0, but have also led me to believe, somewhat strongly, that a second civil war has already begun. The first litmus test I used to employ in order to determine whether or not a second civil war could be happen or be happening was for there first to be two clearly identifiable armed American military forces, army corps size each, standing in open political opposition to one another. While that condition has not been met, in so far as I know, I've recently concluded it doesn't have to in order for a second civil war to happen.

What we seem to seeing as of this moment: June 2020, is some kind of three-way hybrid between a civil war, a years running coup d'état, and a domestic insurrection supported wholly or in part by at least one foreign enemy government, the Chinese. So who are the combatants in this civil war America part two? On one "side" so far, we've got Black Lives Matter and Antifa mob-rioters whose ranks are composed of lots of black street thugs, lots of white college age kids; a small, hard-core cadre of American radical leftist professors and the like, and an as yet unknown number of Chinese military advisors who are training the rest. On the other side, we've got the United States Armed Forces consisting of our Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, Coast Guard and Space Force and all reserve and national guard components of the same. All of which have been, thus far, prevented from using their lone or combined might to quell the ongoing insurrection. At this point, most police departments nationwide are little more than "observers".

Who then represents the opposition command structure? Who is commanding the enemy "troops"? Democrat politicians in cities across America are enabling the insurrection/coup to happen, however, they're not smart or shrewd enough tactically to be in overall command. Someone or something we haven't seen yet (and aren't likely to) is pulling the insurgents' strings behind some curtain. Could be the Chinese CP. Could be a conglomerate of radical leftist corporations. Could be an alliance between the two. And then there are high ranking far left intelligentsia who make social justice culture happen. But I doubt they're in charge.

So where is the divide or the split between American factions one can even remotely compare to the North and South circa the first American Civil War? There are many. First and foremost: Trump supporters and never-Trumpers. The politically correct and those who oppose them. Pro-life vs. Pro-child murder. Pro-American and Anti-American. However, outside of the ideological and cultural divide, a real split has occurred recently within the highest halls of power in our nation. Cabinet level politicians have come out to speak in open opposition to the President they serve. Former and current military officers have done the same, as have former and current members of federal law enforcement and the intelligence communities. Let's face it: instead of a North and South divide like last time, this time it's all about For Trump vs. Against Trump.

Speaking to actual newsworthy events of this second American Civil War . . . there are many, and you can find the links for yourselves. Chinese smuggling of weapons into America which are almost certainly intended to arm BLM/Antifa rioter-terrorists. Countless orders for police to stand-down in the face of mass coast to coast mob violence. The destruction of priceless historical memorials to some of the greatest heroes in our nation's history. The seemingly democrat sanctioned mob violence against everyday American citizens. Violent street clashes are going down out there as I write this.

What about a campaign of disinformation and propaganda to confuse us and turn us against each other? CNN, MSNBC, NPR, AP and many, many other news outlets are broadcasting FALSE information round the clock to American citizens everywhere.

So what happens next? I can only speculate. In the coming weeks or months we will see, if all allied broadcasts haven't been cut or censored, the crowds of mobs armed to the teeth and either seizing large parts of cities across America or mass murdering Trump supporters or both. We could see a well armed attack on the White House. We could see a mass defection from our standing Federal military forces when our great President inevitably invokes the Insurrection Act. At some point not too distant we will very likely see large scale full-blown battles in cities (first) across America, followed by the same in the suburbs and sticks. We could even witness a West Coast Chinese invasion welcomed by the governors of California, Oregon and Washington State. Pretty much . . . it ain't gonna be pretty.

What then might history, a century hence, record as the actual inciting event of our second American Civil War? Some will say it was Roe v. Wade and the resulting Supreme Court decision on that infamous case. Others? Perhaps the assassination of JFK. Others still? Depending on who "wins" one side will definitely claim it was either the election of Donald Trump or the death of George Floyd. What say you, America?
Not a chance....yet...........One side has not attacked yet. One side declared war. One side is trying furious appeasement. Once the other side spills some blood, then war can be declared.

The shortest Civil War in history.
At the rate Democrats are already shooting each other, I agree that it should be over pretty quickly!!!
 
It seems to me that the anti-2nd amendment side would be severely outgunned.
At a cursory glance, it might not seem so, because there are too many armed cops who oppose the Second Amendment. Nevertheless, they don't have enough guns off duty to save themselves from the punishment they are calling down upon themselves with their opposition to guns in the hands of private citizens.
 
Typically I am among the first to debunk such flights of internet fantasy with extreme prejudice. The average rational minded American has in the past seemed to believe such events as those that transpired from 1861-65 could never possibly repeat on our domestic soil; soil that remains forever drenched in the blood and ringing screams of our boys who died to reunite America some one-hundred and fifty-five years ago. I used to agree with them. Like the rest of sane America, I once believed our civilization had paid off in full its blood debt.

However, more recent national events have served to not only change my mind about the possibility of civil war America 2.0, but have also led me to believe, somewhat strongly, that a second civil war has already begun. The first litmus test I used to employ in order to determine whether or not a second civil war could be happen or be happening was for there first to be two clearly identifiable armed American military forces, army corps size each, standing in open political opposition to one another. While that condition has not been met, in so far as I know, I've recently concluded it doesn't have to in order for a second civil war to happen.

What we seem to seeing as of this moment: June 2020, is some kind of three-way hybrid between a civil war, a years running coup d'état, and a domestic insurrection supported wholly or in part by at least one foreign enemy government, the Chinese. So who are the combatants in this civil war America part two? On one "side" so far, we've got Black Lives Matter and Antifa mob-rioters whose ranks are composed of lots of black street thugs, lots of white college age kids; a small, hard-core cadre of American radical leftist professors and the like, and an as yet unknown number of Chinese military advisors who are training the rest. On the other side, we've got the United States Armed Forces consisting of our Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, Coast Guard and Space Force and all reserve and national guard components of the same. All of which have been, thus far, prevented from using their lone or combined might to quell the ongoing insurrection. At this point, most police departments nationwide are little more than "observers".

Who then represents the opposition command structure? Who is commanding the enemy "troops"? Democrat politicians in cities across America are enabling the insurrection/coup to happen, however, they're not smart or shrewd enough tactically to be in overall command. Someone or something we haven't seen yet (and aren't likely to) is pulling the insurgents' strings behind some curtain. Could be the Chinese CP. Could be a conglomerate of radical leftist corporations. Could be an alliance between the two. And then there are high ranking far left intelligentsia who make social justice culture happen. But I doubt they're in charge.

So where is the divide or the split between American factions one can even remotely compare to the North and South circa the first American Civil War? There are many. First and foremost: Trump supporters and never-Trumpers. The politically correct and those who oppose them. Pro-life vs. Pro-child murder. Pro-American and Anti-American. However, outside of the ideological and cultural divide, a real split has occurred recently within the highest halls of power in our nation. Cabinet level politicians have come out to speak in open opposition to the President they serve. Former and current military officers have done the same, as have former and current members of federal law enforcement and the intelligence communities. Let's face it: instead of a North and South divide like last time, this time it's all about For Trump vs. Against Trump.

Speaking to actual newsworthy events of this second American Civil War . . . there are many, and you can find the links for yourselves. Chinese smuggling of weapons into America which are almost certainly intended to arm BLM/Antifa rioter-terrorists. Countless orders for police to stand-down in the face of mass coast to coast mob violence. The destruction of priceless historical memorials to some of the greatest heroes in our nation's history. The seemingly democrat sanctioned mob violence against everyday American citizens. Violent street clashes are going down out there as I write this.

What about a campaign of disinformation and propaganda to confuse us and turn us against each other? CNN, MSNBC, NPR, AP and many, many other news outlets are broadcasting FALSE information round the clock to American citizens everywhere.

So what happens next? I can only speculate. In the coming weeks or months we will see, if all allied broadcasts haven't been cut or censored, the crowds of mobs armed to the teeth and either seizing large parts of cities across America or mass murdering Trump supporters or both. We could see a well armed attack on the White House. We could see a mass defection from our standing Federal military forces when our great President inevitably invokes the Insurrection Act. At some point not too distant we will very likely see large scale full-blown battles in cities (first) across America, followed by the same in the suburbs and sticks. We could even witness a West Coast Chinese invasion welcomed by the governors of California, Oregon and Washington State. Pretty much . . . it ain't gonna be pretty.

What then might history, a century hence, record as the actual inciting event of our second American Civil War? Some will say it was Roe v. Wade and the resulting Supreme Court decision on that infamous case. Others? Perhaps the assassination of JFK. Others still? Depending on who "wins" one side will definitely claim it was either the election of Donald Trump or the death of George Floyd. What say you, America?
Not a chance....yet...........One side has not attacked yet. One side declared war. One side is trying furious appeasement. Once the other side spills some blood, then war can be declared.

The shortest Civil War in history.

Excellent assessment.
Thanks. I took my stupid pills a few hrs ago. Lol
 
No Civil War

Just a cleansing of the evils of Trump
 
Typically I am among the first to debunk such flights of internet fantasy with extreme prejudice. The average rational minded American has in the past seemed to believe such events as those that transpired from 1861-65 could never possibly repeat on our domestic soil; soil that remains forever drenched in the blood and ringing screams of our boys who died to reunite America some one-hundred and fifty-five years ago. I used to agree with them. Like the rest of sane America, I once believed our civilization had paid off in full its blood debt.

However, more recent national events have served to not only change my mind about the possibility of civil war America 2.0, but have also led me to believe, somewhat strongly, that a second civil war has already begun. The first litmus test I used to employ in order to determine whether or not a second civil war could be happen or be happening was for there first to be two clearly identifiable armed American military forces, army corps size each, standing in open political opposition to one another. While that condition has not been met, in so far as I know, I've recently concluded it doesn't have to in order for a second civil war to happen.

What we seem to seeing as of this moment: June 2020, is some kind of three-way hybrid between a civil war, a years running coup d'état, and a domestic insurrection supported wholly or in part by at least one foreign enemy government, the Chinese. So who are the combatants in this civil war America part two? On one "side" so far, we've got Black Lives Matter and Antifa mob-rioters whose ranks are composed of lots of black street thugs, lots of white college age kids; a small, hard-core cadre of American radical leftist professors and the like, and an as yet unknown number of Chinese military advisors who are training the rest. On the other side, we've got the United States Armed Forces consisting of our Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, Coast Guard and Space Force and all reserve and national guard components of the same. All of which have been, thus far, prevented from using their lone or combined might to quell the ongoing insurrection. At this point, most police departments nationwide are little more than "observers".

Who then represents the opposition command structure? Who is commanding the enemy "troops"? Democrat politicians in cities across America are enabling the insurrection/coup to happen, however, they're not smart or shrewd enough tactically to be in overall command. Someone or something we haven't seen yet (and aren't likely to) is pulling the insurgents' strings behind some curtain. Could be the Chinese CP. Could be a conglomerate of radical leftist corporations. Could be an alliance between the two. And then there are high ranking far left intelligentsia who make social justice culture happen. But I doubt they're in charge.

So where is the divide or the split between American factions one can even remotely compare to the North and South circa the first American Civil War? There are many. First and foremost: Trump supporters and never-Trumpers. The politically correct and those who oppose them. Pro-life vs. Pro-child murder. Pro-American and Anti-American. However, outside of the ideological and cultural divide, a real split has occurred recently within the highest halls of power in our nation. Cabinet level politicians have come out to speak in open opposition to the President they serve. Former and current military officers have done the same, as have former and current members of federal law enforcement and the intelligence communities. Let's face it: instead of a North and South divide like last time, this time it's all about For Trump vs. Against Trump.

Speaking to actual newsworthy events of this second American Civil War . . . there are many, and you can find the links for yourselves. Chinese smuggling of weapons into America which are almost certainly intended to arm BLM/Antifa rioter-terrorists. Countless orders for police to stand-down in the face of mass coast to coast mob violence. The destruction of priceless historical memorials to some of the greatest heroes in our nation's history. The seemingly democrat sanctioned mob violence against everyday American citizens. Violent street clashes are going down out there as I write this.

What about a campaign of disinformation and propaganda to confuse us and turn us against each other? CNN, MSNBC, NPR, AP and many, many other news outlets are broadcasting FALSE information round the clock to American citizens everywhere.

So what happens next? I can only speculate. In the coming weeks or months we will see, if all allied broadcasts haven't been cut or censored, the crowds of mobs armed to the teeth and either seizing large parts of cities across America or mass murdering Trump supporters or both. We could see a well armed attack on the White House. We could see a mass defection from our standing Federal military forces when our great President inevitably invokes the Insurrection Act. At some point not too distant we will very likely see large scale full-blown battles in cities (first) across America, followed by the same in the suburbs and sticks. We could even witness a West Coast Chinese invasion welcomed by the governors of California, Oregon and Washington State. Pretty much . . . it ain't gonna be pretty.

What then might history, a century hence, record as the actual inciting event of our second American Civil War? Some will say it was Roe v. Wade and the resulting Supreme Court decision on that infamous case. Others? Perhaps the assassination of JFK. Others still? Depending on who "wins" one side will definitely claim it was either the election of Donald Trump or the death of George Floyd. What say you, America?
Not a chance....yet...........One side has not attacked yet. One side declared war. One side is trying furious appeasement. Once the other side spills some blood, then war can be declared.

The shortest Civil War in history.
At the rate Democrats are already shooting each other, I agree that it should be over pretty quickly!!!
Best reality TV show of all time. A bunch of violent libturds attacking mostly dumb libturds. So a few statues have to take one for the team. So be it.
 
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You're so spoiled that a little civil unrest has you thinking the end is nigh. This kind of thing happens all the time somewhere, it's just been while for us. Things will return to new normal at some point and things will be fine. Going to be a historic summer though.

I don't want your new normal.
Too bad, so sad....


We didn't like your new lawless, deceitful, chaotic normal.... either.... but we didn't break out in to civil war over it....

Killing is for pussies....
 
You're so spoiled that a little civil unrest has you thinking the end is nigh. This kind of thing happens all the time somewhere, it's just been while for us. Things will return to new normal at some point and things will be fine. Going to be a historic summer though.

I don't want your new normal.
Too bad, so sad....


We didn't like your new lawless, deceitful, chaotic normal.... either.... but we didn't break out in to civil war over it....

Killing is for pussies....

We don’t need a Civil War

We have an election coming up
 
You're so spoiled that a little civil unrest has you thinking the end is nigh. This kind of thing happens all the time somewhere, it's just been while for us. Things will return to new normal at some point and things will be fine. Going to be a historic summer though.

I don't want your new normal.
Too bad, it's the way of the world and I accept that I have no control of it. Maybe the stupidest thing you can do is take society personally, it's like thinking bad weather is there just to ruin your day.

So you think bad weather burns down stores and murders civilians for ideological causes, do you? Every last cow in every herd on the planet thinks the same: whatever's gonna happen, does. Until their turn in line to become Big Macs comes up.
You think I approve of the anarchy? I do not. I simply accept that it's part of living on earth. Sometimes people get pissed and things get broke. If you look at the history of America things like this used to happen all of the time when the elites dismissed the complaints of the masses for too long. All of this could have been prevented had someone did anything to reign in the prison industrial complex.
 
Typically I am among the first to debunk such flights of internet fantasy with extreme prejudice. The average rational minded American has in the past seemed to believe such events as those that transpired from 1861-65 could never possibly repeat on our domestic soil; soil that remains forever drenched in the blood and ringing screams of our boys who died to reunite America some one-hundred and fifty-five years ago. I used to agree with them. Like the rest of sane America, I once believed our civilization had paid off in full its blood debt.

However, more recent national events have served to not only change my mind about the possibility of civil war America 2.0, but have also led me to believe, somewhat strongly, that a second civil war has already begun. The first litmus test I used to employ in order to determine whether or not a second civil war could be happen or be happening was for there first to be two clearly identifiable armed American military forces, army corps size each, standing in open political opposition to one another. While that condition has not been met, in so far as I know, I've recently concluded it doesn't have to in order for a second civil war to happen.

What we seem to seeing as of this moment: June 2020, is some kind of three-way hybrid between a civil war, a years running coup d'état, and a domestic insurrection supported wholly or in part by at least one foreign enemy government, the Chinese. So who are the combatants in this civil war America part two? On one "side" so far, we've got Black Lives Matter and Antifa mob-rioters whose ranks are composed of lots of black street thugs, lots of white college age kids; a small, hard-core cadre of American radical leftist professors and the like, and an as yet unknown number of Chinese military advisors who are training the rest. On the other side, we've got the United States Armed Forces consisting of our Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, Coast Guard and Space Force and all reserve and national guard components of the same. All of which have been, thus far, prevented from using their lone or combined might to quell the ongoing insurrection. At this point, most police departments nationwide are little more than "observers".

Who then represents the opposition command structure? Who is commanding the enemy "troops"? Democrat politicians in cities across America are enabling the insurrection/coup to happen, however, they're not smart or shrewd enough tactically to be in overall command. Someone or something we haven't seen yet (and aren't likely to) is pulling the insurgents' strings behind some curtain. Could be the Chinese CP. Could be a conglomerate of radical leftist corporations. Could be an alliance between the two. And then there are high ranking far left intelligentsia who make social justice culture happen. But I doubt they're in charge.

So where is the divide or the split between American factions one can even remotely compare to the North and South circa the first American Civil War? There are many. First and foremost: Trump supporters and never-Trumpers. The politically correct and those who oppose them. Pro-life vs. Pro-child murder. Pro-American and Anti-American. However, outside of the ideological and cultural divide, a real split has occurred recently within the highest halls of power in our nation. Cabinet level politicians have come out to speak in open opposition to the President they serve. Former and current military officers have done the same, as have former and current members of federal law enforcement and the intelligence communities. Let's face it: instead of a North and South divide like last time, this time it's all about For Trump vs. Against Trump.

Speaking to actual newsworthy events of this second American Civil War . . . there are many, and you can find the links for yourselves. Chinese smuggling of weapons into America which are almost certainly intended to arm BLM/Antifa rioter-terrorists. Countless orders for police to stand-down in the face of mass coast to coast mob violence. The destruction of priceless historical memorials to some of the greatest heroes in our nation's history. The seemingly democrat sanctioned mob violence against everyday American citizens. Violent street clashes are going down out there as I write this.

What about a campaign of disinformation and propaganda to confuse us and turn us against each other? CNN, MSNBC, NPR, AP and many, many other news outlets are broadcasting FALSE information round the clock to American citizens everywhere.

So what happens next? I can only speculate. In the coming weeks or months we will see, if all allied broadcasts haven't been cut or censored, the crowds of mobs armed to the teeth and either seizing large parts of cities across America or mass murdering Trump supporters or both. We could see a well armed attack on the White House. We could see a mass defection from our standing Federal military forces when our great President inevitably invokes the Insurrection Act. At some point not too distant we will very likely see large scale full-blown battles in cities (first) across America, followed by the same in the suburbs and sticks. We could even witness a West Coast Chinese invasion welcomed by the governors of California, Oregon and Washington State. Pretty much . . . it ain't gonna be pretty.

What then might history, a century hence, record as the actual inciting event of our second American Civil War? Some will say it was Roe v. Wade and the resulting Supreme Court decision on that infamous case. Others? Perhaps the assassination of JFK. Others still? Depending on who "wins" one side will definitely claim it was either the election of Donald Trump or the death of George Floyd. What say you, America?
Democrats are arresting their opponents. It’s sad... republicans in office are scared to stand with trump

Agreed. No republican thus far has stood up for those suffering mob violence. No brave conservatives seem to exist in elected positions. Everyone of them is so damn worried about public image and winning elections. I'm a republican and I readily approve of this assessment.
These Repukes are as bad as the libturds. McCain and Co were all participants in multiple instances of overthrowing a duly elected goobermint. These traitor Repukes will be gutted with the rest of them. But we need them for the next 2 yrs before filed.
 
You're so spoiled that a little civil unrest has you thinking the end is nigh. This kind of thing happens all the time somewhere, it's just been while for us. Things will return to new normal at some point and things will be fine. Going to be a historic summer though.

I don't want your new normal.
Too bad, so sad....


We didn't like your new lawless, deceitful, chaotic normal.... either.... but we didn't break out in to civil war over it....

Killing is for pussies....

We don’t need a Civil War

We have an election coming up
If Trump wins, you libturds will be burning and trashing what is left that hasn't been busted up yet.
 
You might want to keep in mind that there was a(several, actually) very serious divides since long before President Trump ever came on the scene. The divides have just become steadily wider and more identifiable and now seem to be nearing a tipping point. The first American civil war was fought against the British with no identifiable military force on the (soon to be) American side to start with. This is almost universally true worldwide. Depending on whether you wish to consider it a separate war, The American Revolution part#2, or 2nd civil war the same is true of the War of 1812. It was also true of the civil war of which you speak. Throughout this time period wars were largely fought by armed militia units and/or individuals although they were often blessed by the various governments and then considered "regular" troops.
The reason I point this out is that there is a hugh real or potential armed militia that is only somewhat identifiable in America. And the overwhelming majority of the militia would come in on the same side and it is by no means determined where the police LEOs and military would stand.
From my viewpoint Obama was the most divisive alleged President ever.
 

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