Is the Jack Smith indictment of Donald Trump "Election Interference"? (Poll)

Is Jack Smith's indictment of Trump in the 2024 presidential election cycle election interference?

  • Yes

    Votes: 54 60.7%
  • No

    Votes: 35 39.3%

  • Total voters
    89
Ok, Trump is grasping at straws. We'll need to wait for the trial to see how it all works out.
If Barr is correct Trump is toast. If Fitton is correct, Trump walks. We'll see.

Fitton (English Major, not a lawyer) isn't correct. He lost the Judicial Watch v. NARA case (Clinton Tape Case). Also the Clinton tape case had nothing to do with 18 USC 793(e) and national defense information which is a crime v. the PRA of 1978 which is administrative law with no criminal enforcement.

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True. My point being that the democrats wasted time on the trial since Trump was gone. The purpose of an impeachment is to remove a president.

There are two possible outcome from impeachment and and conviction, removal from office is only one of them.

WW
 
Dumbfuck, he was impeached on January 13th, 2021...
Was he, or was he not, still president on January 13th, 2021?
The answer exposes your extremely low IQ.
Impeachment means nothing dumbass. It means that there are articles that go to trial in the senate.
Did the 1/13/21 "impeachment" have ANY effect on Trump? Ans: NO.
Trump was long gone before the trial to "remove him" even started.
 
Yet again, you demonstrate your IQ is VERY low. Removing him from office was not the goal of holding an impeachment trial.
So you admit that the 2nd impeachment was a "political assassination" attempt to keep Trump from running for future office without any "high crime" being committed?
 
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Fitton (English Major, not a lawyer) isn't correct. He lost the Judicial Watch v. NARA case (Clinton Tape Case). Also the Clinton tape case had nothing to do with 18 USC 793(e) and national defense information which is a crime v. the PRA of 1978 which is administrative law with no criminal enforcement.

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Yep, I think we debated this before? If the Clinton tapes case is precedent the MAL boxes are Trump's personal property, if not he's toast. The PRA should govern a president moving docs out of the WH. He didn't steal them like Biden or Pence or Sandy Berger.
The Act often seems like the last refuge of the government when it lacks any other means to punish targeted persons. This includes the continued prosecution of Julian Assange for publishing classified information, an act that newspapers have regularly done throughout history to expose government lies and abuses.
In a curious way, the charges against Trump are welcomed as another opportunity for the courts to look at this insidious law. That need existed long before the raid on Mar-a-Lago.
 
So you admit that the 2nd impeachment was a "political assassination" attempt to keep Trump from running for future office without any crime being committed?

#1 Impeachment isn't a criminal trial.

#2 You describe that as if disqualifying Trump out of office again is a bad thing.

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Justice? Like Biden being indicted for stealing classified documents?
Justice? Like Hunter skating on his crimes?
Trump mishandled classified documents, did not sell them to US adversaries, or sell influence like the Bidens. The PRA is not a criminal statute.

The Espionage Act often seems like the last refuge of the government when it lacks any other means to punish targeted persons. This includes the continued prosecution of Julian Assange for publishing classified information, an act that newspapers have regularly done throughout history to expose government lies and abuses.
In a curious way, the charges against Trump are welcomed as another opportunity for the courts to look at this insidious law. That need existed long before the raid on Mar-a-Lago.

Can't indict a sitting president.
 
#1 Impeachment isn't a criminal trial.
#2 You describe that as if disqualifying Trump out of office again is a bad thing.
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1. True.
2. Democrats fucked with Trump for 4-years with the Russian Collusion LIE, and then tried to take away the voter's choice for president in 2024.

So if the choice in 2024 is Biden or Trump, you'd vote for Biden?
 
Yep, I think we debated this before? If the Clinton tapes case is precedent the MAL boxes are Trump's personal property, if not he's toast.

We have and you reverted. The Clinton tapes are irrelvant to DocsGate as the PRA is administrative law that governs the transfer of Presidential Records to the NARA.

18 USC 793(e) is criminal law that deals with the illgal willful retention of national defense information. The FPOTUS doesn't get to keep classified material after leaving office and then refuse to return it when told to do so by an officer of the United States Government.

The PRA should govern a president moving docs out of the WH.

FPOTUS's indictment has nothing to do with moving documents out of the White House as President. It is based on his failure to return them when notified AFTER he left the White House and was no longer President.

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Donald Trump is a leading presidential candidate for the 2024 election.

By indicting Trump now Jack Smith is potentially removing the leading 2024 presidential candidate from voters.

Can the judge postpone or dismiss the indictment charges to be sure that the electorate can vote for their preferred president?

Lets take a poll, especially considering the past democrat charges against Trump (Russian collusion, the Steele Dossier, Operations Crossfire-Hurricane and Crossfire Razor, the FBI Gestapo paying Twitter & FB to censor the Biden laptop story, the CIA lying about the laptop calling it Russian Disinformation scamming 2020 voters, and the MSM's constant 95% negative coverage of Trump, but covering up for Biden, etc. You all know that "the LAW" is being subverted in favor of democrats.
Subversion? No. Justice, yes. When should trump be indicted? Sounds like a way to get him off the hook, because the guy would simply pardon himself, or threaten congress again in some way.
Nah--he needs to be held accountable and even his lawyers, who are dropping out like flies, know this.
 
Impeachment means nothing dumbass. It means that there are articles that go to trial in the senate.
Did the 1/13/21 "impeachment" have ANY effect on Trump? Ans: NO.
Trump was long gone before the trial to "remove him" even started.

You idiotically claimed they tried impeaching him after he left office. They impeached him while he was still president.

A shame you can't stop being stupid.
 
1. True.
2. Democrats fucked with Trump for 4-years with the Russian Collusion LIE, and then tried to take away the voter's choice for president in 2024.

So if the choice in 2024 is Biden or Trump, you'd vote for Biden?

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Bill Clinton says "Hi" after being hounded by the GOP for 8 years.

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So you admit that the 2nd impeachment was a "political assassination" attempt to keep Trump from running for future office without any "high crime" being committed?

That is one of the goals of impeachment. A fitting punishment for a president who sat idly by for hours while his supporters stormed the Capitol and threatened lawmakers and his own VP.
 
Yep, I think we debated this before? If the Clinton tapes case is precedent the MAL boxes are Trump's personal property, if not he's toast. The PRA should govern a president moving docs out of the WH. He didn't steal them like Biden or Pence or Sandy Berger.
The Act often seems like the last refuge of the government when it lacks any other means to punish targeted persons. This includes the continued prosecution of Julian Assange for publishing classified information, an act that newspapers have regularly done throughout history to expose government lies and abuses.
In a curious way, the charges against Trump are welcomed as another opportunity for the courts to look at this insidious law. That need existed long before the raid on Mar-a-Lago.

The Clinton tapes case is not precedent. It's not even about the same laws.
 
Subversion? No. Justice, yes. When should trump be indicted? Sounds like a way to get him off the hook, because the guy would simply pardon himself, or threaten congress again in some way.
Nah--he needs to be held accountable and even his lawyers, who are dropping out like flies, know this.
You think Trump is on the hook? For what, mishandling documents?

I look at the Bidens' bank accounts and I see money laundering and selling influence and bribery. You okay with those crimes?
 
1. True.
2. Democrats fucked with Trump for 4-years with the Russian Collusion LIE, and then tried to take away the voter's choice for president in 2024.

So if the choice in 2024 is Biden or Trump, you'd vote for Biden?

False. Mueller, a Republican, was appointed Special Counsel in May, 2017 by a Republican who was filling in for another Republican. You can't blame Democrats for that.
 
The FBI Gestapo had to know that when the banks reported suspicious money transfers, that was "money laundering" by the Bidens.

A pity you still have no proof. Seems that's why no related charges have come against any of the Bidens.
 
Justice? Like Biden being indicted for stealing classified documents?
Justice? Like Hunter skating on his crimes?
Trump mishandled classified documents, did not sell them to US adversaries, or sell influence like the Bidens. The PRA is not a criminal statute.

The Espionage Act often seems like the last refuge of the government when it lacks any other means to punish targeted persons. This includes the continued prosecution of Julian Assange for publishing classified information, an act that newspapers have regularly done throughout history to expose government lies and abuses.
In a curious way, the charges against Trump are welcomed as another opportunity for the courts to look at this insidious law. That need existed long before the raid on Mar-a-Lago.
But the Espionage Act is a criminal statute and you don’t actually have to give the info to anyone for there to be a violation.
 

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