Is Talent and ability to accomplish major goals in life something that Trump (and his supporters) against?

[Nostra]

This is an opinion piece (mine). It is both an opinion but a question as well.

"Is talent and ability to accomplish goals in life something Trump (and his supporters) against?

This morning when I heard the news that Robert Redford died yesterday, this thought (the OP question) came into my mind. Robert Redford was vocally against Trump and his goals, but so are a huge amount of people that have shown high talent, have accomplished major goals in life, and are generally not only respected but lauded by most Americans.

Here is a partial list of them:

• SINGERS
• The Rolling Stones
• Neil Young
• Adele
• Rihanna
• The White Stripes
• Isaac Hayes
• Elton John
• Panic
• Prince .
• Foo Fighters
• Queen
• John Fogerty
• Beyoncé
• Taylor Swift .
• Bruce Springsteen
• Lady Gaga
• Katy Perry
• Adele
• Aerosmith
• Celine Dion
• Guns N' Roses
• Jack White
• John Legend
• Linkin Park
• Madonna
• Pharrell Williams
• R.E.M.
• Village People
• ACTORS
• Robert De Niro
• Mark Buffalo
• George Clooney
• Eva Longoria
• America Ferrera
• Kerry Washingtom
• Julia Roberts
• Rosie O'Donnell
• Bette Midler
• John Cusack
• MILITARY LEADERS
• John Bolton
• Dan Coats
• Mark Esper
• John Kelly
• Jim Mattis
• H.R. McMaster
• FORMER PRESIDENTS
• Barack Obama
• George W. Bush
• Bill Clinton
• Jimmy Carter

On the other side of the coin, the amount of talented and well-known singers/actors/military leaders/ex-presidents that have supported and lauded Trump, is a very small amount (less than 10).

On top of all of this, one thing that has also surprised me to the nth degree, is that those Americans that have achieved great success in life and are generally lauded and respected by Americans, have been debased and pissed-on by Trump supporters (across the board). To me, that means that having worked hard and having had the ability to reach one's goals in life has no importance to Trump supporters. That earning the respect and good treatment by Trump supporters, we all have to support Trump.............or otherwise we are garbage.

Is this (supporting one person and nothing else being important) what the American Dream has become (according to the Far Right)?

Jack White is on your list.

That makes you a White Supremacist.

 

[Luckyone]

Again, post the link about Prince disliking Trump, I have asked you over and over and you have failed to post it, just post it, it is that easy. I have asked in several posts, and you have ignored me.

As far as your video, I don’t watch childish immature videos, but feel free to be immature.

All I know is you are again butt hurt that not everyone rolls over and agrees with you. I said several posts, we need to agree to disagree and your ego can’t handle that. I can tell by your childish insults.

I am not at all interested, or see the point in reviewing Prince disliking Trump. I have said worse about Trump than anyone else. Seeing his words does not change the OP in any way, especially when you consider that every day, Trump says something horrible and disrestful about someone. As far as your other comment, I don’t care what you do or don’t do. I was just enjoying myself making fun of you! Thanks for being such a Trump puppet.

 

[Papageorgio]

I am not at all interested, or see the point in reviewing Prince disliking Trump. I have said worse about Trump than anyone else. Seeing his words does not change the OP in any way, especially when you consider that every day, Trump says something horrible and disrestful about someone. As far as your other comment, I don’t care what you do or don’t do. I was just enjoying myself making fun of you! Thanks for being such a Trump puppet.

You aren’t interested because there isn’t any quote, you lied, and then tried to run from it. Tells us all we need to know about you. Your ego is so fragile.

 

[Luckyone]

You aren’t interested because there isn’t any quote, you lied, and then tried to run from it. Tells us all we need to know about you. Your ego is so fragile.

Hahaha, you are dreaming in you fantasy world

 

[Papageorgio]

Hahaha, you are dreaming in you fantasy world

You lied, you were caught. No biggie to me, it’s not like you haven’t lied before but I am not interested in you anymore. Liars gonna lie. Haters gonna hate. Thanks, have a great night.

 

[Correll]

As I have ALWAYS stated, nothing and no one is ever perfect. If you look, you can always find examples that support a point of view. It is the extremes that count.

Like the OP shows, the extremes are in play with Trump. In the case of the OP, I showed where artists/singers/ex-presidents/military leader are in the extreme number against Trump than the number in favor of Trump. Can either side be wrong? Sure, but the probabilities favor the against-Trump side being right.
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No, they don't. Celebrities do not count more than regular people.

 

[ThisIsMe]

This OP was not really about Trump. This OP is about what is now important to the right and what is not. The Conservative side of our country (the Republicans) have always been for personal accomplishment. It has been all about what ONE person can accomplish for himself (through talent, ability, dedication and hard work). This trait has always been lauded and respected by the right.

With Trump this has changed, as all of those that accomplished that the Conservative right of the party has always had as being "the most important thing in life" has now being thrown away as all those people that I listed in the OP, are now being debased and criticized (instead of being lauded and respected for their accomplishments) just because they have vocally expressed their views on Trump.

That is pure hypocrisy

Yeah, but if they expressed pro trump views, they'd be debased and criticized as well, just by the other side.

Seems like, in Hollywood, of you lean right, you get black listed, which is why there are so few Republicans in the entertainment industry. It defies the law of averages. Any group or organization that swings 99% to one side is suspect. That doesnt happen organically.

 

[Papageorgio]

Yeah, but if they expressed pro trump views, they'd be debased and criticized as well, just by the other side.

Seems like, in Hollywood, of you lean right, you get black listed, which is why there are so few Republicans in the entertainment industry. It defies the law of averages. Any group or organization that swings 99% to one side is suspect. That doesnt happen organically.

That is my point, both sides don’t respect each other’s opinion and I am not one to believe that a celebrities opinion warrants any weight. The older I get the more this statement becomes true. They are out of touch, with real Americans and live in their own world. Some believe if they play a part in a movie, or right a song about something, they become experts, just foolish ego inflated thinking and that goes for both the left and the right.

 

[sartre play]

That is my point, both sides don’t respect each other’s opinion and I am not one to believe that a celebrities opinion warrants any weight. The older I get the more this statement becomes true. They are out of touch, with real Americans and live in their own world. Some believe if they play a part in a movie, or right a song about something, they become experts, just foolish ego inflated thinking and that goes for both the left and the right.

OPINION Maybe the left has more stars support Because they grew rich and famous Because..
They mostly came from the poor, working class, and middle class.
And relate more with Average Americans than Billionaires?

 

[Correll]

OPINION Maybe the left has more stars support Because they grew rich and famous Because..
They mostly came from the poor, working class, and middle class.
And relate more with Average Americans than Billionaires?

Except they often express contempt for those Average Americans.

 

[Papageorgio]

OPINION Maybe the left has more stars support Because they grew rich and famous Because..
They mostly came from the poor, working class, and middle class.
And relate more with Average Americans than Billionaires?

Seriously? You believe Katy Perry is in touch with the poor? You think Paltrow is in touch with the world at all? Alyssa Milano? DeNiro, does he ever drive anywhere, when was he last in a grocery store. Sorry, I don’t buy it.