Bull Ring Is religion the greatest evil that has ever face humanity? RWS vs ding

[ding]

Point 8: Religion inspires a sense of wonder in nature and the universe.

 

[RWS]

Point #6: Religion teaches that we have a choice in how we behave.

MAJOR NO. If you had a choice, it would be a faith.

The Greek word for repent is "metanoia." Metanoia means to change your mind. Our thoughts, the flow of consciousness which determines our behaviors, can change. Metanoia has to do with moral activity, but goes beyond that. Jesus was teaching that we could change our mind about how we treat people. We don’t have to be unforgiving and cynical. We can change our mind about being negative. We can think positive thoughts and walk in faith instead of doubt. We can change our minds about sin. Rather than being caught in the strongholds of consistent habits of lust or selfishness, for example, we can experience freedom and selflessness. Jesus would not have told us to change unless it was possible and attainable. The Bible is full of words that speak about change. Repentance, metamorphosis, transformation, conversion, resurrection, rebirth, renewal, regeneration, healing and transfiguration.

You had that set up, didn't ya? Because it's too fast to type in response.

If you believe in a religion, you have no choices in how to behave.

If you have faith, you can.

 

[ding]

Point #5: Religion teaches accountability and responsibility.

Absolutely not. I missed this one before. Religion teaches absolute belief. And they kill because of it.

1738 Freedom is exercised in relationships between human beings. Every human person, created in the image of God, has the natural right to be recognized as a free and responsible being. All owe to each other this duty of respect. The right to the exercise of freedom, especially in moral and religious matters, is an inalienable requirement of the dignity of the human person. This right must be recognized and protected by civil authority within the limits of the common good and public order.32

Catechism of the Catholic Church - Man's freedom

 

[RWS]

Point 8: Religion inspires a sense of wonder in nature and the universe.

So does science. In a more logical way.

Believing in Santa Claus, does not make your wonder any greater than ours.

 

[ding]

Point #6: Religion teaches that we have a choice in how we behave.

MAJOR NO. If you had a choice, it would be a faith.

The Greek word for repent is "metanoia." Metanoia means to change your mind. Our thoughts, the flow of consciousness which determines our behaviors, can change. Metanoia has to do with moral activity, but goes beyond that. Jesus was teaching that we could change our mind about how we treat people. We don’t have to be unforgiving and cynical. We can change our mind about being negative. We can think positive thoughts and walk in faith instead of doubt. We can change our minds about sin. Rather than being caught in the strongholds of consistent habits of lust or selfishness, for example, we can experience freedom and selflessness. Jesus would not have told us to change unless it was possible and attainable. The Bible is full of words that speak about change. Repentance, metamorphosis, transformation, conversion, resurrection, rebirth, renewal, regeneration, healing and transfiguration.

You had that set up, didn't ya? Because it's too fast to type in response.

If you believe in a religion, you have no choices in how to behave.

If you have faith, you can.

1731 Freedom is the power, rooted in reason and will, to act or not to act, to do this or that, and so to perform deliberate actions on one's own responsibility. By free will one shapes one's own life. Human freedom is a force for growth and maturity in truth and goodness; it attains its perfection when directed toward God, our beatitude.

Catechism of the Catholic Church - Man's freedom

 

[RWS]

Point #5: Religion teaches accountability and responsibility.

Absolutely not. I missed this one before. Religion teaches absolute belief. And they kill because of it.

1738 Freedom is exercised in relationships between human beings. Every human person, created in the image of God, has the natural right to be recognized as a free and responsible being. All owe to each other this duty of respect. The right to the exercise of freedom, especially in moral and religious matters, is an inalienable requirement of the dignity of the human person. This right must be recognized and protected by civil authority within the limits of the common good and public order.32

Catechism of the Catholic Church - Man's freedom

That's a statement that you can state your bullshit. In real life or on here on the forum.

That's not a statement that it is correct.

You are losing badly so far, ding.

 

[RWS]

Should I start on my offensive?

Let me know when you're done.

 

[ding]

Point 8: Religion inspires a sense of wonder in nature and the universe.

So does science. In a more logical way.

Believing in Santa Claus, does not make your wonder any greater than ours.

Science is the study of nature to discover the order within nature so as to make predictions of nature.

Romans 1
19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. 20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world,[g] in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.

 

[ding]

Point #5: Religion teaches accountability and responsibility.

Absolutely not. I missed this one before. Religion teaches absolute belief. And they kill because of it.

1738 Freedom is exercised in relationships between human beings. Every human person, created in the image of God, has the natural right to be recognized as a free and responsible being. All owe to each other this duty of respect. The right to the exercise of freedom, especially in moral and religious matters, is an inalienable requirement of the dignity of the human person. This right must be recognized and protected by civil authority within the limits of the common good and public order.32

Catechism of the Catholic Church - Man's freedom

That's a statement that you can state your bullshit. In real life or on here on the forum.

That's not a statement that it is correct.

You are losing badly so far, ding.

I'm happy enough to let the judges decide that.

 

[RWS]

You may need help from your friends.

Jus sayin....

 

[RWS]

Point #8: Religion helps us feel connected to one another and to nature.

Why? When religion likes to kill everyone and burn down the territory so it cannot be used later.

 

[ding]

Should I start on my offensive?

Let me know when you're done.

It's always been your case to make, RWS. What are you waiting for?

I'm making mine.

 

[ding]

Point #9: Religion helps us feel less alone in the world.

 

[RWS]

Ding, you're stuck on the current Santa Claus version of your religion. That's why you like it.

You haven't done research into why you were born into it, and what can possibly happen in the future, that you will have to follow.

 

[RWS]

Point #9: Religion helps us feel less alone in the world.

K, you're making me laugh now.

 

[ding]

Point #10: Religion serves to ennoble the human spirit.

 

[RWS]

Should I start on my offensive?

Let me know when you're done.

It's always been your case to make, RWS. What are you waiting for?

I'm making mine.

You're speaking nonsense, and I'm replying to each one.

I don't think you're ready for me.

 

[ding]

Point #11: Religion serves to bind the community together.

 

[ding]

Should I start on my offensive?

Let me know when you're done.

It's always been your case to make, RWS. What are you waiting for?

I'm making mine.

You're speaking nonsense, and I'm replying to each one.

I don't think you're ready for me.

I'm happy enough to let the judges decide that.

 

[RWS]

Point #10: Religion serves to ennoble the human spirit.

What? It serves to enslave the humans, to serve a made-up spirit from the ruler.