Is our justice system now gone because of Trump?

[BlackSand]

And when you awoke you saw them standing in front of your bed.

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... And take solace in the idea your bleeding-heart compassion and distrust of those charged to protect you ...
Is what causes you to leave the door unlocked and invite them in ...
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[Luckyone]

Assumptions, on top of speculation and wrapped in a bow of fear mongering. J6 prosecutors way overcharged cases and used unethical methods to force pleas that just did make sense based on the individuals actions. And it all falls at the feet of the Biden regime and Garland. And I don't think the Nuremburg defense will fly for those that participated.

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Bottom line no matter your opinion on the matter, is that everything done up until now has been based on existing laws that are in the Constitution. If used incorrectly, they were able to be appealed and if all of that failed, it could be taken to the Supreme court. That is the way our Justice systems has worked for 248 years. What Trump is trying to install a Justice system that is not based on the Constitution but based on what he personally believes.

That is plain wrong

 

[Nostra]

Bottom line no matter your opinion on the matter, is that everything done up until now has been based on existing laws that are in the Constitution. If used incorrectly, they were able to be appealed and if all of that failed, it could be taken to the Supreme court. That is the way our Justice systems has worked for 248 years. What Trump is trying to install a Justice system that is not based on the Constitution but based on what he personally believes.

That is plain wrong

Elections have consequences. Trump is now your dictator.

Better leave while you can.

 

[Luckyone]

We're only a week or so into his administration and we have four years to go. I don't believe he's going to continue doing all of this and get away with it. I see him being stopped by the courts, law enforcement or/and the military. He will be stopped.

With Congress and the Supreme court being his puppets, there is a decent chance that he will NOT BE stopped.

 

[Luckyone]

Looks bad for the short term , in the long term this transgression will be looked at for what it is , another criminal act.

I hope you are right but right now, I have great doubts

 

[Nostra]

With Congress and the Supreme court being his puppets, there is a decent chance that he will NOT BE stopped.

There is no stopping him. Trump controls EVERYTHING!

Deal with it, loser.

 

[westwall]

Bottom line no matter your opinion on the matter, is that everything done up until now has been based on existing laws that are in the Constitution. If used incorrectly, they were able to be appealed and if all of that failed, it could be taken to the Supreme court. That is the way our Justice systems has worked for 248 years. What Trump is trying to install a Justice system that is not based on the Constitution but based on what he personally believes.

That is plain wrong

No, lawfare is NOT in the COTUS.

That is why you lost the election.

 

[BlackSand]

Bottom line no matter your opinion on the matter, is that everything done up until now has been based on existing laws that are in the Constitution. If used incorrectly, they were able to be appealed and if all of that failed, it could be taken to the Supreme court. That is the way our Justice systems has worked for 248 years. What Trump is trying to install a Justice system that is not based on the Constitution but based on what he personally believes.

That is plain wrong

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Our Constitution also delegates powers to the Executive Branch ...
As well as provides a means for Impeachment in regard to Presidential actions.

Give it your best shot ... He's had practice ...
Understand ... If that's the game you want to play ... You're gonna get what you ask for.
We're not afraid of you and your ilk ... And you should reevaluate your options considering your recent losses.

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[Stryder50]

I'm finding that questions I've always had about world history are being answered in real time.

Such as, "how could they have let this happen?"

You should have been asking that during the Obama and Biden years when they were on the agenda to "fundamentally change America(USA)."
AND doing something to help prevent it happening, Komrade.

 

[Stryder50]

So you’re admitting that Trump is behaving like an authoritarian dictator and perverting the justice system.

Fascinating.

Not even close to the level we saw from Obama and Biden!

 

[Nostra]

Trump is bombing Congress on Tuesday.


MUUUUUUUUAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!

 

[Luckyone]

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Our Constitution also delegates powers to the Executive Branch ...
As well as provides a means for Impeachment in regard to Presidential actions.

Give it your best shot ... He's had practice ...
Understand ... If that's the game you want to play ... You're gonna get what you ask for.
We're not afraid of you and your ilk ... And you should reevaluate your options considering your recent losses.

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Tell that to the Venezuelan people

 

[westwall]

Tell that to the Venezuelan people

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Ummmm, Chavez stole his elections too. Socialists and progressives have a history of that.

 

[BlackSand]

Tell that to the Venezuelan people

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I'm telling you ... And I have never looked towards Venezuela for guidance.

I'm willing to bet you'll squeal and cry about everything ...
But there's a great possibility Congress won't move towards Impeachment ...
Because that would call for an investigation ... Your crooked actors won't be able to protect each other ...
And the American People will learn exactly what they did ... In detail.

Go for it ... I dare you ...
If you aren't going to listen to the American People ... That's going to be your foolish mistake.

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[Nostra]

Trump is gonna move every Marine down to protect Mar A Lago and rule the world from a golf course.

it's gonna be AWESOME1

 

[Luckyone]

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I'm telling you ... And I have never looked towards Venezuela for guidance.

I'm willing to bet you'll squeal and cry about everything ...
But there's a great possibility Congress won't move towards Impeachment ...
Because that would call for an investigation ... Your crooked actors won't be able to protect each other ...
And the American People will learn exactly what they did ... In detail.

Go for it ... I dare you ...
If you aren't going to listen to the American People ... That's going to be your foolish mistake.

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I dare you to put your money where your mouth is. I say this country will be worse in 2028 than it was in 2024. You want to take that bet?

 

[BlackSand]

I dare you to put your money where your mouth is. I say this country will be worse in 2028 than it was in 2024. You want to take that bet?

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Reading what you post ... I would have to be less than scrupulous to even take the bet from a sucker like you.
You're a hand-wringing, pearl clutching political hack that likes to pretend your opinion has the power to change the world.

Your visions and desires to see the country fall asunder under President Trump ...
In light of your desire to ignore the previous Administration in that regard ...
Means I would not only have to play party to your narrowminded ignorance ...
But rob you of any dignity remaining by taking your money.

I mean if you want to put your money in a pile and burn it ... That's on you nitwit ...

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[DonGlock26]

Our justice system is being attacked and dismantled by Trump

What to Know​

Acting Deputy Attorney General Emil Bove ordered the firing of several prosecutors involved in the investigation into Trump's alleged attempt to overturn the 2020 election results. Around two dozen employees at the U.S. attorney's office in Washington, D.C., were fired on Bove's order.

Bove, who was Trump's attorney in the Republican's criminal cases, also sought to have several senior FBI executives retire or be fired by Monday. Bove requested the names of all FBI agents assigned to investigate or prosecute January 6 cases—a list that could include thousands—in what is believed to be a step toward terminating them as well.

Trump is working toward getting rid of ANYONE that disagrees with him. In essence, free speech begone..............to be replaced with this

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Do this or begone

The American People voted to drain the swamp.

 

[berg80]

Staffed by some of the most experienced prosecutors in the Department, my Office operated under the same Department policies and procedures that guide all federal prosecutors. The regulations under which I was appointed required that we do so, see 28 C.F.R. § 600.7(a), and our work benefited from those processes. The Department has long recognized that proceeding with "uniformity of policy ... is necessary to the prestige of federal law." Robert H. Jackson, "The Federal Prosecutor" (April 1, 1940). As a result, throughout our work we regularly consulted the Justice Manual, the Department's publicly available guidebook on policies and procedures, and adhered to its requirements.

Our work rested upon the fundamental value of our democracy that we exist as "a government of laws, and not of men." John Adams, Novanglus, No. VII at 84 (Mar. 6, 1775). In making decisions as Special Counsel, I considered as a first principle whether our actions would contribute to upholding the rule of law, and acted accordingly. Our committed adherence to the rule of law is why we not only followed Department policies and procedures, but strictly observed legal requirements and dutifully respected the judicial decisions and precedents our prosecutions prompted. That is also why, in my decision-making, I heeded the imperative that "[n]o man in this country is so high that he is above the law," United States v. Lee, I 06 U.S. 196,220 (1882).

https://www.justice.gov/storage/Report-of-Special-Counsel-Smith-Volume-1-January-2025.pdf

Smith and his team followed the letter of the law in performing their assigned task. What they found during their investigation compelled them to convene a grand jury, the members of which voted to indict trump based on the overwhelming evidence. Twice in the J6 case.

The Superseding Trump Indictment Charts Jack Smith’s Path Forward​

Smith has reworked the Jan. 6 case against Trump in light of the Supreme Court’s decision on presidential immunity.

www.lawfaremedia.org

trump's lawfare ensued, and the cases were postponed until they became moot after the election. IOW, trump's strategy of avoiding having to stand trial, not prove his innocence, worked. No amount of spin from trump fans alters those fundamental facts.

Just today I've read the comments from a few trump supporters claiming that the cases against trump being dropped shows they never should have been brought. Or that it's evidence of his innocence. Neither belief is grounded in reality. Smith resigned because he knew he would be fired. He dropped the cases because he knew trump's DoJ would drop them. And because of the OLC prohibition against prosecuting a sitting prez. Not because of the viability of the cases based on the facts.

The dismissal of the criminal cases does not erase the evidence of trump's guilt. Rather, the dismissals will always be an indictment of our system of justice. One ill prepared to deal with the unforeseen circumstances of how a rich man, aided by his enablers, exploited weaknesses in our system of justice to arrive at an unjust end.

 

[berg80]

The American People voted to drain the swamp.

Horseshit. A plurality voted against inflation and our failed immigration policies going back 30 years. They didn't vote for Dotard so he could take out revenge on members of the DoJ who were doing their jobs.