Is Mark Kelly a traitor?

[EMH]

According to Pro Israel Christians, Kelly is a "conservative"

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U.S. Senator Mark Kelly (D-AZ) has maintained a strong pro-Israel stance, affirming its right to self-defense while also expressing concerns regarding the humanitarian crisis in Gaza and the need to protect Palestinian civilians. He has visited Israel multiple times and supported military aid packages.
Key aspects of Senator Kelly's position and actions regarding Israel:

• Support for Israel's Security: Kelly has consistently stated the United States stands with Israel as an ally and supports its right to defend itself against terror attacks by Hamas and other groups.
• Military and Financial Aid: He voted in favor of a $95 billion supplemental funding package that included $26 billion in aid for Israel. He also expressed readiness to work with colleagues to provide additional aid as needed for Israel's defense.

 

[Mac1958]

Jeebers. The recent incident is not the first time Kelly has been accused of being a traitor by the regime. After plotting to steal the 2020 how trump has the nerve of calling anyone a traitor is beyond me.

It's the alternate universe. The orange con man/Putin fanboy is the patriot.

Evidently Hegseth is trying to conjure up a punishment that won't require a trial.

Kelly's crime, of course, was repeating longtime military rules. I guess you're not supposed to do that.

 

[JoeB131]

A lot of the Crazy Democrat Cultists love war because they are War Profiteers.
Some of the Crazy Democrat Cultists hate Trump so much that they don't want Trump to have a successful peace deal.
Zelenskyy is not defending freedom or democracy.
Zelenskyy has canceled elections and censored his opposition.
Ukraine is a one-party totalitarian police state.
Mark Kelly is supporting a one-party totalitarian police state, not "freedom"

Let's get real here.

Ukraine is much closer to a Democracy than Russia is.

The Parliament cancelled elections, not Zelenskyy himself.

Now, yes, a peace deal is desireable because this thing has ground down into a stalemate. But any peace has to be based on preventing Putin from trying this again in five years.

But as long as Trump is beholden to Putin, that isn't going to happen.

 

[JoeB131]

Ukraine is not our ally. We have a common enemy which is Putin’s Russia. As for minerals, after giving Ukraine hundreds of billions, shouldn’t we get something in return? Even as poor as the infant USA was after the revolution, it sent a massive food and grain convoy to France to help feed the French people during a bad harvest.

Actually, we completely stiffed France on the money they loaned us, which is why Louis XVI got the ultimate haircut.

But don't let that stop you from your rah-rah history where the Founding Slave Rapists were always swell guys.

 

[Failzero]

Kelly is a Doofus and he is following Miley’s lead on scoring cheap points by adocating traitorous activities to thwart Trump .

 

[westwall]

Jeebers. The recent incident is not the first time Kelly has been accused of being a traitor by the regime. After plotting to steal the 2020 how trump has the nerve of calling anyone a traitor is beyond me.

Well, Kelley is a partner in a chinese spy balloon company. You DO remember that balloon that joey bribem let sail all the way across the country, stopping at military bases along the way, you DO remember that don't you? And he was filmed riding a bike waving the flag of the chinese communist party. I don't know too many non traitors that would do that.

Do you?

 

[JoeB131]

Well, Kelley is a partner in a chinese spy balloon company. You DO remember that balloon that joey bribem let sail all the way across the country, stopping at military bases along the way, you DO remember that don't you? And he was filmed riding a bike waving the flag of the chinese communist party. I don't know too many non traitors that would do that.

Do you?

What I remember was that it turned out to be a weather balloon and they found it had stopped transmitting back to China weeks before it went off course.

2023 Chinese balloon incident - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

In June, preliminary investigation by the U.S. reported the presence of reconnaissance equipment on board the balloon downed in February. There were conflicting reports on whether it had collected any intelligence during its flight. It does not appear to have sent anything back to China. The Wall Street Journal said the balloon carried off-the-shelf U.S. gear. Pentagon spokesperson Brigadier General Patrick S. Ryder did not confirm that information but said that Chinese drones in the past have utilized off-the-shelf U.S. equipment. He also said that mitigation efforts "contributed" to the balloon not collecting any intelligence while transiting or overflying the United States.

On September 17, 2023, in an interview with CBS news, General Mark Milley, the retiring 20th US chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, stated "I would say it was a spy balloon that we know with high degree of certainty got no intelligence, and didn't transmit any intelligence back to China." Technical experts had also found that the balloon's sensors had never been activated while it was travelling over the Continental United States. The general also touched on a leading theory that the reason that it was flying over the United States, was probably because it was blown off-track, where the balloon had been heading towards Hawaii however winds at 60,000 feet simply came into the equation. Milley said, "those winds are very high.. the particular motor on that aircraft can't go against those winds at that altitude.

 

[westwall]

What I remember was that it turned out to be a weather balloon and they found it had stopped transmitting back to China weeks before it went off course.

2023 Chinese balloon incident - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

In June, preliminary investigation by the U.S. reported the presence of reconnaissance equipment on board the balloon downed in February. There were conflicting reports on whether it had collected any intelligence during its flight. It does not appear to have sent anything back to China. The Wall Street Journal said the balloon carried off-the-shelf U.S. gear. Pentagon spokesperson Brigadier General Patrick S. Ryder did not confirm that information but said that Chinese drones in the past have utilized off-the-shelf U.S. equipment. He also said that mitigation efforts "contributed" to the balloon not collecting any intelligence while transiting or overflying the United States.

On September 17, 2023, in an interview with CBS news, General Mark Milley, the retiring 20th US chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, stated "I would say it was a spy balloon that we know with high degree of certainty got no intelligence, and didn't transmit any intelligence back to China." Technical experts had also found that the balloon's sensors had never been activated while it was travelling over the Continental United States. The general also touched on a leading theory that the reason that it was flying over the United States, was probably because it was blown off-track, where the balloon had been heading towards Hawaii however winds at 60,000 feet simply came into the equation. Milley said, "those winds are very high.. the particular motor on that aircraft can't go against those winds at that altitude.

Weather balloons don't navigate, retard.

 

[JoeB131]

Weather balloons don't navigate, retard.

The more sophiticated ones do.

China already has spy satellites; they don't need spy balloons.

Military Satellites by Country 2026

Data on the number of military satellites each country has sent into orbit, including details on which country has the most military satellites and which country launched the first military satellite.

worldpopulationreview.com

 

[MarathonMike]

“Everyone wants this war to end, but any agreement has to protect Ukraine’s security and can’t be a giveaway to Putin,” Kelly had written

In this context, I think Musk's comment is unfounded. But Kelly's insane encouragement of soldiers to disobey their orders because he wants to smear President Trump IS borderline treasonous.

Kelly's comment per the Ukraine war contains "and can't be a giveaway to Putin". A typically vague statement, but we know that means that Putin can't retain the Ukrainian territory that is now occupied by his troops. Anyone with half a brain knows that INSURES a perpetual meat grinder war. So no, that statement is not treasonous, but it is stupid.

 

[Lesh]

Kelly is a Doofus and he is following Miley’s lead on scoring cheap points by adocating traitorous activities to thwart Trump .

Thwart Trump? What in his attempt to do illegal activities?

 

[westwall]

The more sophiticated ones do.

China already has spy satellites; they don't need spy balloons.

Military Satellites by Country 2026

Data on the number of military satellites each country has sent into orbit, including details on which country has the most military satellites and which country launched the first military satellite.

worldpopulationreview.com

Spy ballons give an extra capability, loitering time. They can stay over a single space for days. Which is what kelleys balloon did.

And no, weather balloons don't navigate. They are one use devices.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Actually, we completely stiffed France on the money they loaned us, which is why Louis XVI got the ultimate haircut.

But don't let that stop you from your rah-rah history where the Founding Slave Rapists were always swell guys.

As usual you are full of crap. Here is the answer for the Department of State Website:

Did the USA pay back the French loans made during the Revolutionary war?​

Yes, the United States did pay back the loans it incurred during the American Revolutionary War to France. The final installment of the debt was settled in the 19th century, and the U.S. was able to settle its debts with the French Government with the help of James Swan, an American banker who privately assumed French debts at a slightly higher interest rate. This settlement allowed the young country to place itself on a more sound financial footing.

U.S. Department of State+2

 

[westwall]

As usual you are full of crap. Here is the answer for the Department of State Website:

Did the USA pay back the French loans made during the Revolutionary war?​

Yes, the United States did pay back the loans it incurred during the American Revolutionary War to France. The final installment of the debt was settled in the 19th century, and the U.S. was able to settle its debts with the French Government with the help of James Swan, an American banker who privately assumed French debts at a slightly higher interest rate. This settlement allowed the young country to place itself on a more sound financial footing.
U.S. Department of State+2

JoeyB is a fountain of fake news.

 

[Failzero]

Thwart Trump? What in his attempt to do illegal activities?

Undermining his control

 

[sartre play]

Kelly really doesn't support Ukraine, I think he's just a regular war hawk seeking to try and get President Trump involved in a ground war in Asia - so the libs have a chance in a future election.

And YOU know this?? HOW?

 

[JoeB131]

As usual you are full of crap. Here is the answer for the Department of State Website:

Did the USA pay back the French loans made during the Revolutionary war?​

Yes, the United States did pay back the loans it incurred during the American Revolutionary War to France. The final installment of the debt was settled in the 19th century, and the U.S. was able to settle its debts with the French Government with the help of James Swan, an American banker who privately assumed French debts at a slightly higher interest rate. This settlement allowed the young country to place itself on a more sound financial footing.
U.S. Department of State+2

Wow. They settled those debts (or to be more precise, someone bought them up) 20 years after they were made and two years after Louis XVI got his head cut off for bankrupting the country.

Spy ballons give an extra capability, loitering time. They can stay over a single space for days. Which is what kelleys balloon did.

And no, weather balloons don't navigate. They are one use devices.

Except the government admitted that particular balloon hadn't been transmitting data... but don't let that stop you.

Kelley must have you guys really scared. I might have to look into supporting him.

 

[westwall]

Wow. They settled those debts (or to be more precise, someone bought them up) 20 years after they were made and two years after Louis XVI got his head cut off for bankrupting the country.



Except the government admitted that particular balloon hadn't been transmitting data... but don't let that stop you.

Kelley must have you guys really scared. I might have to look into supporting him.

No, they didn't you liar.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Wow. They settled those debts (or to be more precise, someone bought them up) 20 years after they were made and two years after Louis XVI got his head cut off for bankrupting the country.



Except the government admitted that particular balloon hadn't been transmitting data... but don't let that stop you.

Kelley must have you guys really scared. I might have to look into supporting him.

Only you would trust a statement from the Biden administration which was in ass covering mode.

 

[MarathonMike]

Thwart Trump? What in his attempt to do illegal activities?

Yeah right, "illegal activities" as determined by the lawless Democrats and their lapdog Media.