Is Kim Davis wrong? Or is the Supreme Ct wrong about requiring acceptance of same-sex "marriage"?

[Syriusly]

I'm not a birther, *****!!!


And one has to question the sanity of a class of people that commit suicide in higher than normal numbers. It's a terrible truth of the gay lifestyle.

Liar, you damn sure are an idiot birther.

He has a valid bc, which is more than Obama can say.

He's a Birther who goes on and on about Birther stuff then expects people to not notice. There's no having a sane conversation with him....

Obviously you don't the definition of Birther then.

You're so full of shit.

Mean, irrational, dishonest to the core.

Perfect Democrat material.

Keep going on, Birther.....tell us more about "Barry" and him being a "secret Muslim".

​

Now you understand why so many hate your asses.......

Why do you hate her equines?

 

[Bob Blaylock]

I want all children to have a proper married set of parents. That means a father and a mother. By wise, divine design, it takes a father and a mother to create a child, and it also takes a father and a mother to properly raise that child.

So, you want your small, non-intrusive government to prevent people from having children unless there is a father and a mother in the home....then force them to stay together til the children are grown.

Government cannot be the solution to every problem. I think our present state of moral decay is the result of looking to government to solve problems, where what we really needed to do was to man up, take responsibility for our own problems, and solve them ourselves.

In any event, government should certainly not be in the business of actively contributing to and promoting this moral decay.

 

[mudwhistle]

Interracial marriage was popular to a majority. Southern Democrats (your party BTW) were pretty much last to sign on to it in the 60s

Not even close. 80% of the country was opposed to interracial marriage when the SCOTUS "forced" it upon a populace that was vehemently opposed.

Nobody could prove any harm, so it became legal.

The rationale by Justice Kennedy for same-sex marriage was tha marriage makes children safe.

Okay. Lol

Where in his majority decision was that wording?

Look it up. It's in there.

Doing your homework for you isn't in my job description.

Ah, so you made a claim you can't support...got it.

Nope...I posted a link earlier.

It's up to you to read the friggen thing.

 

[Seawytch]

My civil marriage license doesn't infringe on your religion in any way shape or form. Kim Davis was actually trying to impose her religious views on her secular office...you're down with that kind of Sharia law shit?

As long as any person is unable to marry whomever they wish....this is basically a law that was written by the Supreme Court, which is unconstitutional.

The only reason it made it this far is because the Gay Agenda had to lie and claim that they weren't being discriminatory. Discriminatory against marrying inside your own family or marrying regardless of the age or species of the parties.

So Loving was also unconstitutional. Have you told all the interracial couples?

Look, if you think there is no demonstrable harm in marrying your sibling, your dog (can't consent), a child (can't consent), a dead person (can't consent) or more than one person, you are free to do just as gay and interracial couples did and petition the courts. Somehow I don't think you'll fare as well with many of your hyperbolic nonsense...but have fun storming the castle.

If we were to use Rosie O'Donnell as an example of the harm that same-sex marriages can cause....then it would never have made it to the Supreme Court.

Her adopted child is living with her biological mother....because Rosie is a lousy mother apparently.

That's pathetic even for you. Still can't come up with that demonstrable harm can you?

P
Statistics show higher than normal suicides, higher than normal adverse sexual lifestyles.....and eventually it will show higher than normal divorce.

Btw, you guys justified your arguments by painting all straight couples with the same broad brush. Truth is, you need a license to drive, to own a pet, even to vote, but they'll let any butt-reaming asshole be a father.

Some of them don't deserve the privilege.

So Veterans and overweight people shouldn't be able to marry?

 

[1stRambo]

The Supreme Court is wrong...

... the Constitution says nothing about the status of marriage...

... therefore they have nothing within their jurisdiction to base their decision on...

... until legislation is passed - then and only then can they rule on the Constitutionality of the legislation one way or the other...

... it is not in their purview to legislate laws...

... especially since, at present, sexual orientation is not a protected class.

It says nothing about marriage, but it does say that any law must not deprive citizens of equal protection or due process and those laws banning gay marriage did both.

They have appellate jurisdiction over any case arising under the Constitution of the laws of the United States. The case before them arose under the 14th and 5th Amendment to the Constitution

Legislation was passed. In the two states whose laws were challenged, Michigan and Indiana. As well as in most states. Were you not aware that they passed laws banning gay marriage?

They did not legislate laws; they struck down unconstitutional provisions of laws.

At present, sexual orientation is a suspect class.

Gee , o for 5.

Yo, you said this in your Post?

""It says nothing about marriage, but it does say that any law must not deprive citizens of equal protection or due process and those laws banning gay marriage did both.""

Did you read it? It says a lot! The protection under the Law? Says nothing about Marriage? It means the Pursuit of Life Liberty and Happiness!!! Nothing about abnormal behavior? Men + Men, or Women + Women? These abnormal people have the same Rights as me, not more or less! If they wish to marry the opposite sex, like I did, fine, but not more rights than me!!! Another thing? You Mini Socialist who are always crying about Separation of Government and Religion? How could the Supreme Court pass a Law like Gay Marriage? It is Unconstitutional, Period!!! But not really to you Mini Socialist, as long as it fits the Agenda!!! ""Lets Screw Up America!!!""

"GTP"
*** City!

 

[Syriusly]

My civil marriage license doesn't infringe on your religion in any way shape or form. Kim Davis was actually trying to impose her religious views on her secular office...you're down with that kind of Sharia law shit?

As long as any person is unable to marry whomever they wish....this is basically a law that was written by the Supreme Court, which is unconstitutional.

The only reason it made it this far is because the Gay Agenda had to lie and claim that they weren't being discriminatory. Discriminatory against marrying inside your own family or marrying regardless of the age or species of the parties.

So Loving was also unconstitutional. Have you told all the interracial couples?

Look, if you think there is no demonstrable harm in marrying your sibling, your dog (can't consent), a child (can't consent), a dead person (can't consent) or more than one person, you are free to do just as gay and interracial couples did and petition the courts. Somehow I don't think you'll fare as well with many of your hyperbolic nonsense...but have fun storming the castle.

If we were to use Rosie O'Donnell as an example of the harm that same-sex marriages can cause....then it would never have made it to the Supreme Court.

Her adopted child is living with her biological mother....because Rosie is a lousy mother apparently.

That's pathetic even for you. Still can't come up with that demonstrable harm can you?

P
. Truth is, you need a license to drive, to own a pet, even to vote, but they'll let any butt-reaming asshole be a father.

Some of them don't deserve the privilege.

So now you want the government deciding which men get to be fathers?

I mean I agree with you- I have met many men who happened to father children who didn't deserve the privilege. All to often just sharing their sperm with womenkind and having children as a result- but with no intent.

Gay men and gay women- they only bring children into this world by intent. Or they adopt the children abandoned by their biological parents.

Nothing is perfect, but I think people becoming parents because they intend to be parents is more promising than those who just happen to father a child because of a one night stand with a girl they got drunk.

 

[mudwhistle]

As long as any person is unable to marry whomever they wish....this is basically a law that was written by the Supreme Court, which is unconstitutional.

The only reason it made it this far is because the Gay Agenda had to lie and claim that they weren't being discriminatory. Discriminatory against marrying inside your own family or marrying regardless of the age or species of the parties.

So Loving was also unconstitutional. Have you told all the interracial couples?

Look, if you think there is no demonstrable harm in marrying your sibling, your dog (can't consent), a child (can't consent), a dead person (can't consent) or more than one person, you are free to do just as gay and interracial couples did and petition the courts. Somehow I don't think you'll fare as well with many of your hyperbolic nonsense...but have fun storming the castle.

If we were to use Rosie O'Donnell as an example of the harm that same-sex marriages can cause....then it would never have made it to the Supreme Court.

Her adopted child is living with her biological mother....because Rosie is a lousy mother apparently.

That's pathetic even for you. Still can't come up with that demonstrable harm can you?

P
Statistics show higher than normal suicides, higher than normal adverse sexual lifestyles.....and eventually it will show higher than normal divorce.

Btw, you guys justified your arguments by painting all straight couples with the same broad brush. Truth is, you need a license to drive, to own a pet, even to vote, but they'll let any butt-reaming asshole be a father.

Some of them don't deserve the privilege.

So Veterans and overweight people shouldn't be able to marry?

WTF are you babbling about!!!

 

[Syriusly]

The Supreme Court is wrong...

... the Constitution says nothing about the status of marriage...

... therefore they have nothing within their jurisdiction to base their decision on...

... until legislation is passed - then and only then can they rule on the Constitutionality of the legislation one way or the other...

... it is not in their purview to legislate laws...

... especially since, at present, sexual orientation is not a protected class.

It says nothing about marriage, but it does say that any law must not deprive citizens of equal protection or due process and those laws banning gay marriage did both.

They have appellate jurisdiction over any case arising under the Constitution of the laws of the United States. The case before them arose under the 14th and 5th Amendment to the Constitution

Legislation was passed. In the two states whose laws were challenged, Michigan and Indiana. As well as in most states. Were you not aware that they passed laws banning gay marriage?

They did not legislate laws; they struck down unconstitutional provisions of laws.

At present, sexual orientation is a suspect class.

Gee , o for 5.

! Another thing? You Mini Socialist who are always crying about Separation of Government and Religion? How could the Supreme Court pass a Law like Gay Marriage? It is Unconstitutional, Period!!!]

You mini fascists don't even know that the Supreme Court can't pass laws. Really- do you even have a clue why same gender marriage is now legal in every state?

I doubt it.

 

[Seawytch]

For the record, I support same-sex marriage, but I wanted them to get it in a more legit manner, not through lying and ignoring the eventual Pandora's Box this will eventually open.

What is the "more legit manner" you have in mind? Using the court system set up by the U.S. Constitution isn't legit?

The exact same system that "forced" his interracial marriage on a very unwilling (80%) populace.

Link

Interracial marriage was popular to a majority. Southern Democrats (your party BTW) were pretty much last to sign on to it in the 60s

Nobody could prove any harm, so it became legal.

The rationale by Justice Kennedy for same-sex marriage was tha marriage makes children safe.

Okay. Lol

What a huge lie that is.

Prove it

I did...you ignored it.

Need it again? Okay..

The SCOTUS ruled against the OVERWHELMING opinion of the American people in 1965...which allowed YOU to be married to your wife. You're okay with that "tyranny" though I'll bet...

 

[Syriusly]

So Loving was also unconstitutional. Have you told all the interracial couples?

Look, if you think there is no demonstrable harm in marrying your sibling, your dog (can't consent), a child (can't consent), a dead person (can't consent) or more than one person, you are free to do just as gay and interracial couples did and petition the courts. Somehow I don't think you'll fare as well with many of your hyperbolic nonsense...but have fun storming the castle.

If we were to use Rosie O'Donnell as an example of the harm that same-sex marriages can cause....then it would never have made it to the Supreme Court.

Her adopted child is living with her biological mother....because Rosie is a lousy mother apparently.

That's pathetic even for you. Still can't come up with that demonstrable harm can you?

P
Statistics show higher than normal suicides, higher than normal adverse sexual lifestyles.....and eventually it will show higher than normal divorce.

Btw, you guys justified your arguments by painting all straight couples with the same broad brush. Truth is, you need a license to drive, to own a pet, even to vote, but they'll let any butt-reaming asshole be a father.

Some of them don't deserve the privilege.

So Veterans and overweight people shouldn't be able to marry?

WTF are you babbling about!!!

You pointed out that homosexuals have a higher rate of suicides than normal- she was pointing out- accurately- that veterans have a higher rate of suicide also.

So- should we judge homosexuals and veterans the same based upon their shared higher incidences of suicide?

 

[Seawytch]

So Loving was also unconstitutional. Have you told all the interracial couples?

Look, if you think there is no demonstrable harm in marrying your sibling, your dog (can't consent), a child (can't consent), a dead person (can't consent) or more than one person, you are free to do just as gay and interracial couples did and petition the courts. Somehow I don't think you'll fare as well with many of your hyperbolic nonsense...but have fun storming the castle.

If we were to use Rosie O'Donnell as an example of the harm that same-sex marriages can cause....then it would never have made it to the Supreme Court.

Her adopted child is living with her biological mother....because Rosie is a lousy mother apparently.

That's pathetic even for you. Still can't come up with that demonstrable harm can you?

P
Statistics show higher than normal suicides, higher than normal adverse sexual lifestyles.....and eventually it will show higher than normal divorce.

Btw, you guys justified your arguments by painting all straight couples with the same broad brush. Truth is, you need a license to drive, to own a pet, even to vote, but they'll let any butt-reaming asshole be a father.

Some of them don't deserve the privilege.

So Veterans and overweight people shouldn't be able to marry?

WTF are you babbling about!!!

You held up suicide rates and health issues as a demonstrable harm in allowing gays to marry each other. Using your twisted logic, veterans and fat people shouldn't marry. Stupid huh?

 

[Syriusly]

What is the "more legit manner" you have in mind? Using the court system set up by the U.S. Constitution isn't legit?

The exact same system that "forced" his interracial marriage on a very unwilling (80%) populace.

Link

Interracial marriage was popular to a majority. Southern Democrats (your party BTW) were pretty much last to sign on to it in the 60s

Nobody could prove any harm, so it became legal.

The rationale by Justice Kennedy for same-sex marriage was tha marriage makes children safe.

Okay. Lol

What a huge lie that is.

Prove it

I did...you ignored it.

Need it again? Okay..

The SCOTUS ruled against the OVERWHELMING opinion of the American people in 1965...which allowed YOU to be married to your wife. You're okay with that "tyranny" though I'll bet...

Maybe he isn't- maybe he is still upset that the 'will of the people' to forbid mixed race marriages was thwarted.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Interracial marriage was popular to a majority. Southern Democrats (your party BTW) were pretty much last to sign on to it in the 60s

Not even close. 80% of the country was opposed to interracial marriage when the SCOTUS "forced" it upon a populace that was vehemently opposed.

Nobody could prove any harm, so it became legal.

The rationale by Justice Kennedy for same-sex marriage was tha marriage makes children safe.

Okay. Lol

Where in his majority decision was that wording?

Look it up. It's in there.

Doing your homework for you isn't in my job description.

Ah, so you made a claim you can't support...got it.

Nope...I posted a link earlier.

It's up to you to read the friggen thing.

you can lead a donkey to water

but you cant make em drink it

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Arraigned marriages, political marriages, marriages between cousins, marriages between minors have all been part of the marriage picture.

And always between a man and a woman. That's always been, and always will be, an essential, defining characteristic of marriage. The means of determining which man marries which woman, under what circumstances may change, but the pairing of male and female will not.

 

[Seawytch]

Interracial marriage was popular to a majority. Southern Democrats (your party BTW) were pretty much last to sign on to it in the 60s

Not even close. 80% of the country was opposed to interracial marriage when the SCOTUS "forced" it upon a populace that was vehemently opposed.

Nobody could prove any harm, so it became legal.

The rationale by Justice Kennedy for same-sex marriage was tha marriage makes children safe.

Okay. Lol

Where in his majority decision was that wording?

Look it up. It's in there.

Doing your homework for you isn't in my job description.

Ah, so you made a claim you can't support...got it.

Nope...I posted a link earlier.

It's up to you to read the friggen thing.

I've read the ruling. The language you're claiming isn't in it.

 

[Seawytch]

The exact same system that "forced" his interracial marriage on a very unwilling (80%) populace.

Link

Interracial marriage was popular to a majority. Southern Democrats (your party BTW) were pretty much last to sign on to it in the 60s

Nobody could prove any harm, so it became legal.

The rationale by Justice Kennedy for same-sex marriage was tha marriage makes children safe.

Okay. Lol

What a huge lie that is.

Prove it

I did...you ignored it.

Need it again? Okay..

The SCOTUS ruled against the OVERWHELMING opinion of the American people in 1965...which allowed YOU to be married to your wife. You're okay with that "tyranny" though I'll bet...

Maybe he isn't- maybe he is still upset that the 'will of the people' to forbid mixed race marriages was thwarted.

He's in an interracial marriage...that's the irony of his position.

 

[Seawytch]

If we were to use Rosie O'Donnell as an example of the harm that same-sex marriages can cause....then it would never have made it to the Supreme Court.

Her adopted child is living with her biological mother....because Rosie is a lousy mother apparently.

That's pathetic even for you. Still can't come up with that demonstrable harm can you?

P
Statistics show higher than normal suicides, higher than normal adverse sexual lifestyles.....and eventually it will show higher than normal divorce.

Btw, you guys justified your arguments by painting all straight couples with the same broad brush. Truth is, you need a license to drive, to own a pet, even to vote, but they'll let any butt-reaming asshole be a father.

Some of them don't deserve the privilege.

So Veterans and overweight people shouldn't be able to marry?

WTF are you babbling about!!!

You pointed out that homosexuals have a higher rate of suicides than normal- she was pointing out- accurately- that veterans have a higher rate of suicide also.

So- should we judge homosexuals and veterans the same based upon their shared higher incidences of suicide?

Aaaaannnnnddddd....

Crickets.

 

[mudwhistle]

What is the "more legit manner" you have in mind? Using the court system set up by the U.S. Constitution isn't legit?

The exact same system that "forced" his interracial marriage on a very unwilling (80%) populace.

Link

Interracial marriage was popular to a majority. Southern Democrats (your party BTW) were pretty much last to sign on to it in the 60s

Nobody could prove any harm, so it became legal.

The rationale by Justice Kennedy for same-sex marriage was tha marriage makes children safe.

Okay. Lol

What a huge lie that is.

Prove it

I did...you ignored it.

Need it again? Okay..

The SCOTUS ruled against the OVERWHELMING opinion of the American people in 1965...which allowed YOU to be married to your wife. You're okay with that "tyranny" though I'll bet...

So be it. If anyone wanted to fight it, they could.
First they have to prove the harm mixed couples caused........

If anyone wants to fight same-sex marriages they still can.

 

[mudwhistle]

That's pathetic even for you. Still can't come up with that demonstrable harm can you?

P
Statistics show higher than normal suicides, higher than normal adverse sexual lifestyles.....and eventually it will show higher than normal divorce.

Btw, you guys justified your arguments by painting all straight couples with the same broad brush. Truth is, you need a license to drive, to own a pet, even to vote, but they'll let any butt-reaming asshole be a father.

Some of them don't deserve the privilege.

So Veterans and overweight people shouldn't be able to marry?

WTF are you babbling about!!!

You pointed out that homosexuals have a higher rate of suicides than normal- she was pointing out- accurately- that veterans have a higher rate of suicide also.

So- should we judge homosexuals and veterans the same based upon their shared higher incidences of suicide?

Aaaaannnnnddddd....

Crickets.

Guess you forgot that typing takes time......especially on a cell with a fucked up spellchecker.

Guess this is the 60s all over again...with respect to same-sex marriage.

 

[Seawytch]

P
Statistics show higher than normal suicides, higher than normal adverse sexual lifestyles.....and eventually it will show higher than normal divorce.

Btw, you guys justified your arguments by painting all straight couples with the same broad brush. Truth is, you need a license to drive, to own a pet, even to vote, but they'll let any butt-reaming asshole be a father.

Some of them don't deserve the privilege.

So Veterans and overweight people shouldn't be able to marry?

WTF are you babbling about!!!

You pointed out that homosexuals have a higher rate of suicides than normal- she was pointing out- accurately- that veterans have a higher rate of suicide also.

So- should we judge homosexuals and veterans the same based upon their shared higher incidences of suicide?

Aaaaannnnnddddd....

Crickets.

Guess you forgot that typing takes time......especially on a cell with a fucked up spellchecker.

Uh huh...if it makes you feel better.