Zone1 Is it time to re_evaluate the conduct of ordinary Germans during the holocaust and the rise of nazis ?

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I dont mean the nazis need to be looked at again. I mean the ordinary German. They have often been castigated for knowing enough to put a stop to fascism. They must have known about the concentration camps and did nothing. They kept their heads down and stayed silent.

But is that a fair assessment ?

Maybe we should look at their behaviour again.

We are seeing the rise of fascism in the US. Its happening as we speak. And the american people are complicit in its rise.

Politicians. judges and unions are passive in their opposition as a few oligarchs use their wealth to support their man. Law breaking is now the law.

Vast swathes of the US are being turned into police states as people are being rounded up and sent to a terror camp without trial. Trans people are being cancelled from public life and the constitution is being assaulted every day by a fraudster who is trying to see how far he can get without pushback.

Thiss is how it started in Nazi Germany. Where are the grown ups fighting for the US ?
He has purged his own party and it now consists of weak sycophants. They will not say a peep. Similarly he owns the corrupt judges who waive thru his edicts.

Trump is rebuilding a pre civil rights society without opposition. So should we cut Germany some slack and accept that they were no worse than anyone else ?

The evidence is they were just the same as everyone else.

 
How odd - a poster who is devoted to those whose number one priority in life is to kill Jews is now posturing about imaginary Nazis.

Man, there is cognitive dissonance, and then there is Tammy.
 
How odd - a poster who is devoted to those whose number one priority in life is to kill Jews is now posturing about imaginary Nazis.

Man, there is cognitive dissonance, and then there is Tammy.
Herr Field Marshal Tainant and his loon Lefties try to convince us that the nation of Israel are now the Nazis conducing mass genocide against Palestinians while they sing "Gas the Jews" on Left wing college campuses around the world.

At least he still recognizes that his National Socialist cousin is still evil, but ironically would be considered a hero today if he murdered all the Zionists in Israel today.

What a sick twisted mental state these people operate in every day.

It is impressive.
 
How odd - a poster who is devoted to those whose number one priority in life is to kill Jews is now posturing about imaginary Nazis.

Man, there is cognitive dissonance, and then there is Tammy.
Im surprised that you cant notice the similarities. Trump is waging war on minorities just like hitler did.
I wiould think that jewish people were as uncomfortable as anyone at seeing the rise of hate in the US.
They arent your friends you know.
 
Herr Field Marshal Tainant and his loon Lefties try to convince us that the nation of Israel are now the Nazis conducing mass genocide against Palestinians while they sing "Gas the Jews" on Left wing college campuses around the world.

At least he still recognizes that his National Socialist cousin is still evil, but ironically would be considered a hero today if he murdered all the Zionists in Israel today.

What a sick twisted mental state these people operate in every day.

It is impressive.
Hitler is still a hero to many in the GOP. Miller, Bannon Musk are all actual nazis. they arent hiding it.
When they have finished with the gays and trannys and then the muslims they will come for you.
 
Are you referring to your little moustache and the way you persecute Jews.

I didn't imagine I even needed to point that out.
No im referring to the demonisation of minorities. I think it went over your head.
"Poisoning the blood" is just a nazi trope. as well. So do you think we demonise the germans unjustly?
 
Im surprised that you cant notice the similarities. Trump is waging war on minorities just like hitler did.
I wiould think that jewish people were as uncomfortable as anyone at seeing the rise of hate in the US.
They arent your friends you know.
You have to have real comparisons of living between then and now. Germans were suffering. Fascism/Communism or any dictatorships ways were rising on that continent. Alternative histories will say to you that the then globalists started WW 1, turned Czarist Russia into the Communist Soviet Union, caused the American Great Depression and WW 2.
 
I dont mean the nazis need to be looked at again. I mean the ordinary German. They have often been castigated for knowing enough to put a stop to fascism. They must have known about the concentration camps and did nothing. They kept their heads down and stayed silent.

But is that a fair assessment ?

Maybe we should look at their behaviour again.

We are seeing the rise of fascism in the US. Its happening as we speak. And the american people are complicit in its rise.

Politicians. judges and unions are passive in their opposition as a few oligarchs use their wealth to support their man. Law breaking is now the law.

Vast swathes of the US are being turned into police states as people are being rounded up and sent to a terror camp without trial. Trans people are being cancelled from public life and the constitution is being assaulted every day by a fraudster who is trying to see how far he can get without pushback.

Thiss is how it started in Nazi Germany. Where are the grown ups fighting for the US ?
He has purged his own party and it now consists of weak sycophants. They will not say a peep. Similarly he owns the corrupt judges who waive thru his edicts.

Trump is rebuilding a pre civil rights society without opposition. So should we cut Germany some slack and accept that they were no worse than anyone else ?

The evidence is they were just the same as everyone else.



Well with the rise of anti-semitism on college campuses, YOU know, where Muslim and non muslim protestors alike, single out and Intimidate people who are Jewish, as if they had anything to do with what is going on in Israel. Just because they are Jewish.
Yes we have seen this insanity. So you might have a slight point.
 
No im referring to the demonisation of minorities. ?
Yes, you demonize Jews who are a tiny minority on the world stage and support genocidal Arabs, instead.

I already knew that, as did anybody else paying attention.
 
You have to have real comparisons of living between then and now. Germans were suffering. Fascism/Communism or any dictatorships ways were rising on that continent. Alternative histories will say to you that the then globalists started WW 1, turned Czarist Russia into the Communist Soviet Union, caused the American Great Depression and WW 2.
I doubt it very much.
 
Yes, you demonize Jews who are a tiny minority on the world stage and support genocidal Arabs, instead.

I already knew that, as did anybody else paying attention.
I criticise fascist murderers. In this instance they happen to be Jewish, Many Jewish people are appalled what is being done in their name.
Back to the thread topic. Trumps actions are no different to hitlers early action. Should we stop deminising germans ?
 
Well with the rise of anti-semitism on college campuses, YOU know, where Muslim and non muslim protestors alike, single out and Intimidate people who are Jewish, as if they had anything to do with what is going on in Israel. Just because they are Jewish.
Yes we have seen this insanity. So you might have a slight point.
Anti semitism is likely to rise in relation to atrocities in Gaza. A similar thing happened after 9/11. Muslims were targetted.
 
Im surprised that you cant notice the similarities. Trump is waging war on minorities just like hitler did.
I wiould think that jewish people were as uncomfortable as anyone at seeing the rise of hate in the US.
They arent your friends you know.

Illegal immigrants are not a racial minority.
 
I dont mean the nazis need to be looked at again. I mean the ordinary German. They have often been castigated for knowing enough to put a stop to fascism. They must have known about the concentration camps and did nothing. They kept their heads down and stayed silent.

But is that a fair assessment ?

Maybe we should look at their behaviour again.

We are seeing the rise of fascism in the US. Its happening as we speak. And the american people are complicit in its rise.

Politicians. judges and unions are passive in their opposition as a few oligarchs use their wealth to support their man. Law breaking is now the law.

Vast swathes of the US are being turned into police states as people are being rounded up and sent to a terror camp without trial. Trans people are being cancelled from public life and the constitution is being assaulted every day by a fraudster who is trying to see how far he can get without pushback.

Thiss is how it started in Nazi Germany. Where are the grown ups fighting for the US ?
He has purged his own party and it now consists of weak sycophants. They will not say a peep. Similarly he owns the corrupt judges who waive thru his edicts.

Trump is rebuilding a pre civil rights society without opposition. So should we cut Germany some slack and accept that they were no worse than anyone else ?

The evidence is they were just the same as everyone else.

I think you should direct your energies to more positive pursuits than to bash me and other Americans because we want our country back.
 
We WERE seeing the rise of fascism in the US. We certainly drifted too far into the digesting stomach of tyranny. Fortunately the people rose up and elected Trump who put together a team of warriors.
 
Im surprised that you cant notice the similarities. Trump is waging war on minorities just like hitler did.
I wiould think that jewish people were as uncomfortable as anyone at seeing the rise of hate in the US.
They arent your friends you know.
Jewish people are uncomfortable with the rise of antisemitism by leftists like you as seen by the screams of “Death to Jews!” and bullying and assaults on college campuses. THAT is the hate, spread by the Left.

There is nothing hateful about rounding up illegal criminal alien scumbags and removing them from our country.
 
Anti semitism is likely to rise in relation to atrocities in Gaza. A similar thing happened after 9/11. Muslims were targetted.
The antisemites are using GAZA, spreading lies about “genocide”, specifically to advance antisemitism. You are a prime example.

The subhuman monsters in this situation are the Palestinians who bring them children out to celebrate as the Muslim terrorists parade around the little coffins of the Jewish babies they tortured to death.
 
The antisemites are using GAZA, spreading lies about “genocide”, specifically to advance antisemitism. You are a prime example.

The subhuman monsters in this situation are the Palestinians who bring them children out to celebrate as the Muslim terrorists parade around the little coffins of the Jewish babies they tortured to death.
People can see the might of the US being used to murder children and steal land. A backlash is inevitable.
Its why 9 /11 happened and will happen again.
Far better to stop the killing and sit down and talk.
But do you agree we need to re-evaluate the conduct of germen civilians ? What have you done personally to stop the slaughter ?
 
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