Is it Possible for Israel and Palestine to Peacefully Coexist?

[ESay]

Why not? In 1948, what other government emerged to make a claim over part of the Mandate for Palestine territory?

No one. The territory of future Arab Palestinian state was occupied by Israel, Jordan and Egypt.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Wait, wait. Who is invading force here and disrupting territorial integrity? Palestinian state that is occupied by Israel? I already told you that the two-state solution is not about Israel and Jordan. Israel doesn't have a right to all of the former Mandatory Palestine.

Who is invading force here and disrupting territorial integrity? Palestinian state that is occupied by Israel?

Israel occupied the state of Palestine? When did Israel invade?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

No one. The territory of future Arab Palestinian state was occupied by Israel, Jordan and Egypt.

Damn, your imaginary country really has to **** up to be occupied by 3 countries before it even exists.

 

[ESay]

Who is invading force here and disrupting territorial integrity? Palestinian state that is occupied by Israel?

Israel occupied the state of Palestine? When did Israel invade?

Israel has been occupying the territory that was supposed to be the Palestinian state (and as for now is recognized by such by 146 countries) since the late 1960s.

 

[ESay]

Damn, your imaginary country really has to **** up to be occupied by 3 countries before it even exists.

Yes, shit happens.

 

[Lisa558]

Who is invading force here and disrupting territorial integrity? Palestinian state that is occupied by Israel?

Israel occupied the state of Palestine? When did Israel invade?

Don’t you remember? The Jews snuck into Gaza on the morning of a Muslim holiday, and decapitated babies, burned toddlers alive, raped women until they died from the trauma, cut off their breasts and tossed them around while the wounded woman bled out in agony, stabbed men to death, forced girls’ legs open and shot guns up their vaginas, even went to a Muslim Music festival and raped and murdered 200 teenagers.

Oh wait….i got mixed up. Never mind…..

 

[MarcATL]

Israel needs to learn to behave themselves.

They can't help but brutalize the Palestinians.

Until they can act civilized, they'll be no peace between the two.

Unfortunately.

 

[Shusha]

No one. The territory of future Arab Palestinian state was occupied by Israel, Jordan and Egypt.

In 1948, what territory was Palestine that was occupied by Israel? What legal process created that State of Palestine and delineated its territory as separate from Israel?

 

[Shusha]

Wait, wait. Who is invading force here and disrupting territorial integrity? Palestinian state that is occupied by Israel? I already told you that the two-state solution is not about Israel and Jordan. Israel doesn't have a right to all of the former Mandatory Palestine.

Jordan and Egypt invaded and occupied territory that they had no sovereign claim to. That use of belligerent armed force disrupted the territorial integrity of a single territorial unit that had never previously been divided and had no delineated demarcation lines to create two separate territories.

 

[Shusha]

You know, I consider all these talks about 'borders that aren't borders because they weren't supposed to be borders and thus can't be borders' as not worth a dime. The Palestinian-Israeli border is not unique in that 'the line' wasn't supposed to be a border (as was with the former Soviet republics, former Yugoslavia), was recognized as a border without agreement between the sides (Kosovo/Serbia border), was created as a border out of armistice agreements between the sides (South/North Korean border, Japan/Soviet border). Really, maybe it is enough to kick a death horse?

Uti possidetis juris. The new sovereigns adopt the previous administration's boundary lines. Universal customary international law.

 

[Shusha]

Damn, your imaginary country really has to **** up to be occupied by 3 countries before it even exists.

Its a time-travelling state. Maybe it went back in time to murder its grandfather and that is what snuffed it out of existence?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Israel has been occupying the territory that was supposed to be the Palestinian state (and as for now is recognized by such by 146 countries) since the late 1960s.

In the late 60s, Israel invaded the state of Palestine?

Weird, I don't remember learning about that in school. What day was it? Link?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yes, shit happens.

Especially to those terrorist loving assholes.

 

[Shusha]

You know, I consider all these talks about 'borders that aren't borders because they weren't supposed to be borders and thus can't be borders' as not worth a dime.

Yeah, I know you do. I press it to try to shake people out of the rut of "there is only one answer". Holding to a black and white "only one right answer" approach is prolonging the conflict.

 

[ESay]

In 1948, what territory was Palestine that was occupied by Israel? What legal process created that State of Palestine and delineated its territory as separate from Israel?

Legal process began in 1947 when the UN Commission was created at the request of the British government to divide the Mandatory Palestine into Jewish and Arab states. The plan was accepted by the UN resolution.

 

[ESay]

Jordan and Egypt invaded and occupied territory that they had no sovereign claim to. That use of belligerent armed force disrupted the territorial integrity of a single territorial unit that had never previously been divided and had no delineated demarcation lines to create two separate territories.

The Arab countries rejected this plan and began a war against newly-formed Jewish state. The result of this war was an armistice agreement between the warring sides that put in place a demarcation line that later became a recognized border of the Palestinian state.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

The Arab countries rejected this plan and began a war against newly-formed Jewish state. The result of this war was an armistice agreement between the warring sides that put in place a demarcation line that later became a recognized border of the Palestinian state.

There is no Palestinian State.

 

[ESay]

Uti possidetis juris. The new sovereigns adopt the previous administration's boundary lines. Universal customary international law.

In other words, the side that managed to be the first in claiming its sovereignty over the territory has the right to own it. At least according to Israel's narratives. Why the Palestinian Arabs can't use this principle is known only to the Ancient Rome, apparently.

 

[ESay]

Yeah, I know you do. I press it to try to shake people out of the rut of "there is only one answer". Holding to a black and white "only one right answer" approach is prolonging the conflict.

That's great. How can a person with a black-and-white mindset shake anyone from this paradigm is a wonder for me.

 

[ESay]

In the late 60s, Israel invaded the state of Palestine?

Weird, I don't remember learning about that in school. What day was it? Link?

Read again my post, slowly. Maybe that helps.