Is it possible for atheism to ever be anything more than critical theory?

[dblack]

• Nope. What definition of atheism are you imagining?

An atheist does not believe in the spiritual. An atheist does not believe we are anything more than matter. An atheist does not believe that anything exists beyond the material world.

An atheist doesn't believe in gods. The rest is your imagination.

And you need to post in a religious forum to tell me that?

No. So there must be another reason you are here. And that is to spread your beliefs.

Nope. Just defending them. You posted the fucking thread.

Yes. I did post this thread. It is true that the only argument an atheist can make is to criticize the beliefs of those who believe in God. You literally cannot make a positive case for atheism because you cannot prove a negative. Why do you need to defend that?

I'm not. I said, right out of the gate, that there's no "positive" case for atheism. But you went on to slam atheists as communists, which is laughably wrong. I stopped taking you seriously when it became clear you were more interested in jerking off to your strawman than having real conversation.

 

[ding]

An atheist does not believe in the spiritual. An atheist does not believe we are anything more than matter. An atheist does not believe that anything exists beyond the material world.

An atheist doesn't believe in gods. The rest is your imagination.

And you need to post in a religious forum to tell me that?

No. So there must be another reason you are here. And that is to spread your beliefs.

Nope. Just defending them. You posted the fucking thread.

Yes. I did post this thread. It is true that the only argument an atheist can make is to criticize the beliefs of those who believe in God. You literally cannot make a positive case for atheism because you cannot prove a negative. Why do you need to defend that?

I'm not. I said, right out of the gate, that there's no "positive" case for atheism. But you went on to slam atheists as communists, which is laughably wrong. I stopped taking you seriously when it became clear you were more interested in jerking off to your strawman than having real conversation.

There has never been a communist state that was not an atheist state. There has never been a socialist state that was not an irreligious state. The less religious Europe became the more socialistic it became.

Our founding fathers told us that liberty and freedom cannot be maintained without virtue and religion.

The founding fathers of communism told us that atheism is required for their programs and that communism is naturalized humanism.

What more do you need?

 

[Karl Rand]

I don't give one rat's ass what the founders of communism said. They're as full of shit as you are.

Neither do I give much of a shit but there’s no unambigupous single body of doctrine the founders of communism agreed upon. They had as many stupid fights with each other as their modern day supposed followers. Ask a Trotskyite what they think of Leninism.

 

[ding]

Neither do I give much of a shit but there’s no single body of doctrine the founders of communism agreed upon. They had as many stupid fights with each other as their modern day supposed followers.

Only because you ignore history which proves what they said.

Do you understand the concept of corroborating evidence?

 

[WinterBorn]

Totally irrelevant to the topic.

No. Critical theory is the vehicle used by cultural Marxists in the demoralization process.

It is totally relevant to the topic. It is a subversive practice intended to alter the culture. It was developed by behavioral scientists who married the work of Freud to Marx for the express purpose of bringing about a cultural revolution.

They even have a set agenda to achieve their goals.

1. Demoralization
2. Destabilization
3. Crisis
4. Normalization

Do the majority of atheists, as a rule, engage in demoralization or destabilization?

Probably to some degree. Yes.

Not all are actively engaged or aggressive in n it.

WTF? How does my not believing in any deity equate to me engaging in demoralization or destabilization?

Answer? It doesn't. Your claim is either based in ignorance or an outright lie.

Most atheists do neither. They simply live their lives without the belief in some spirit in the sky.

Is that why you are posting in a religious forum? You are just living your life? Give me a break. You are here to subordinate religion.

The forum is called "Religion and ETHICS".

I have posted in this forum often enough. Please find any posts of mine that are anti-religion or were posted to subordinate religion.

 

[ding]

No. Critical theory is the vehicle used by cultural Marxists in the demoralization process.

It is totally relevant to the topic. It is a subversive practice intended to alter the culture. It was developed by behavioral scientists who married the work of Freud to Marx for the express purpose of bringing about a cultural revolution.

They even have a set agenda to achieve their goals.

1. Demoralization
2. Destabilization
3. Crisis
4. Normalization

Do the majority of atheists, as a rule, engage in demoralization or destabilization?

Probably to some degree. Yes.

Not all are actively engaged or aggressive in n it.

WTF? How does my not believing in any deity equate to me engaging in demoralization or destabilization?

Answer? It doesn't. Your claim is either based in ignorance or an outright lie.

Most atheists do neither. They simply live their lives without the belief in some spirit in the sky.

Is that why you are posting in a religious forum? You are just living your life? Give me a break. You are here to subordinate religion.

The forum is called "Religion and ETHICS".

I have posted in this forum often enough. Please find any posts of mine that are anti-religion or were posted to subordinate religion.

Yes, it is. Why do you think atheists spend all their time discussing religion?

 

[WinterBorn]

Plus the other problem with atheism is that it is a purely political stunt. Mostly used by Marxist political strategists. In contrast, religions offer personal enrichment.

The problem with atheism is that god can't be fully proven nor fully disproven.

Its always going to be a problem for anyone to prove or disprove an idea that’s essentially meaningless.

If you really believed belief in God were meaningless you wouldn’t be here.

What a load of horseshit. A person cannot come here to discuss the various religions, faiths and/or superstitions that have shaped our world? A person cannot come here to challenge those who make ridiculous claims about atheists? A person cannot come here to learn?

Your attempts at telling people why they are posting in this forum are a failure.

 

[WinterBorn]

Totally irrelevant to the topic.

No. Critical theory is the vehicle used by cultural Marxists in the demoralization process.

It is totally relevant to the topic. It is a subversive practice intended to alter the culture. It was developed by behavioral scientists who married the work of Freud to Marx for the express purpose of bringing about a cultural revolution.

They even have a set agenda to achieve their goals.

1. Demoralization
2. Destabilization
3. Crisis
4. Normalization

If you want to make a thread about how critical theory is used my Marxists, go right ahead.

The fact that Marxists use it is irrelevant to the stated topic.

The stated topic is about atheism, not Marxism. But you have insisted on trying to draw a correlation between atheism and Marxism. They are not, repeat NOT, the same thing. And any attempt to paint them as the same thing is being dishonest and deviating from the stated topic.

It is related as atheism is a requirement of altering the culture.

But it is Marxism that is altering the culture, not atheism. If the topic is atheism, make it about atheism.

Atheism and Marxism are inseparable sisters.

So you are claiming all atheists are Marxists?

 

[WinterBorn]

Do the majority of atheists, as a rule, engage in demoralization or destabilization?

Probably to some degree. Yes.

Not all are actively engaged or aggressive in n it.

WTF? How does my not believing in any deity equate to me engaging in demoralization or destabilization?

Answer? It doesn't. Your claim is either based in ignorance or an outright lie.

Most atheists do neither. They simply live their lives without the belief in some spirit in the sky.

Is that why you are posting in a religious forum? You are just living your life? Give me a break. You are here to subordinate religion.

The forum is called "Religion and ETHICS".

I have posted in this forum often enough. Please find any posts of mine that are anti-religion or were posted to subordinate religion.

Yes, it is. Why do you think atheists spend all their time discussing religion?

All our time discussing religion? Silly me. Here I thought all those posts in the Sports forum were about sports.

 

[WinterBorn]

Do the majority of atheists, as a rule, engage in demoralization or destabilization?

Probably to some degree. Yes.

Not all are actively engaged or aggressive in n it.

WTF? How does my not believing in any deity equate to me engaging in demoralization or destabilization?

Answer? It doesn't. Your claim is either based in ignorance or an outright lie.

Most atheists do neither. They simply live their lives without the belief in some spirit in the sky.

Is that why you are posting in a religious forum? You are just living your life? Give me a break. You are here to subordinate religion.

The forum is called "Religion and ETHICS".

I have posted in this forum often enough. Please find any posts of mine that are anti-religion or were posted to subordinate religion.

Yes, it is. Why do you think atheists spend all their time discussing religion?

So have you found any post I made that subordinates religion? Or is anti-religion?

Or will you admit you lied?

 

[ding]

Plus the other problem with atheism is that it is a purely political stunt. Mostly used by Marxist political strategists. In contrast, religions offer personal enrichment.

The problem with atheism is that god can't be fully proven nor fully disproven.

Its always going to be a problem for anyone to prove or disprove an idea that’s essentially meaningless.

If you really believed belief in God were meaningless you wouldn’t be here.

What a load of horseshit. A person cannot come here to discuss the various religions, faiths and/or superstitions that have shaped our world? A person cannot come here to challenge those who make ridiculous claims about atheists? A person cannot come here to learn?

Your attempts at telling people why they are posting in this forum are a failure.

I don’t really see them doing that here. Do you?

Would you like to discuss the various religions with me?

I haven’t seen anyone want to understand my beliefs? You would be the first and it would be welcomed.

 

[ding]

Probably to some degree. Yes.

Not all are actively engaged or aggressive in n it.

WTF? How does my not believing in any deity equate to me engaging in demoralization or destabilization?

Answer? It doesn't. Your claim is either based in ignorance or an outright lie.

Most atheists do neither. They simply live their lives without the belief in some spirit in the sky.

Is that why you are posting in a religious forum? You are just living your life? Give me a break. You are here to subordinate religion.

The forum is called "Religion and ETHICS".

I have posted in this forum often enough. Please find any posts of mine that are anti-religion or were posted to subordinate religion.

Yes, it is. Why do you think atheists spend all their time discussing religion?

So have you found any post I made that subordinates religion? Or is anti-religion?

Or will you admit you lied?

Your condemnation is much more veiled than others. You are more subtle than others. I credit you for that. But let’s be honest, you don’t come here to learn or because you are curious.

 

[WinterBorn]

• Nope. What definition of atheism are you imagining?

An atheist does not believe in the spiritual. An atheist does not believe we are anything more than matter. An atheist does not believe that anything exists beyond the material world.

An atheist doesn't believe in gods. The rest is your imagination.

And you need to post in a religious forum to tell me that?

No. So there must be another reason you are here. And that is to spread your beliefs.

Nope. Just defending them. You posted the fucking thread.

Yes. I did post this thread. It is true that the only argument an atheist can make is to criticize the beliefs of those who believe in God. You literally cannot make a positive case for atheism because you cannot prove a negative. Why do you need to defend that?

No, that is not true.

I have not posted anything resembling a critique of those who believe in God. I have, however, corrected your ridiculous claim that atheists are marxists. As dblack said, some come here to defend what an atheist is or is not. And your claims are bogus, thereby deserving of replies from those who know.

 

[ding]

Probably to some degree. Yes.

Not all are actively engaged or aggressive in n it.

WTF? How does my not believing in any deity equate to me engaging in demoralization or destabilization?

Answer? It doesn't. Your claim is either based in ignorance or an outright lie.

Most atheists do neither. They simply live their lives without the belief in some spirit in the sky.

Is that why you are posting in a religious forum? You are just living your life? Give me a break. You are here to subordinate religion.

The forum is called "Religion and ETHICS".

I have posted in this forum often enough. Please find any posts of mine that are anti-religion or were posted to subordinate religion.

Yes, it is. Why do you think atheists spend all their time discussing religion?

All our time discussing religion? Silly me. Here I thought all those posts in the Sports forum were about sports.

I was talking about this room.

I love sports though. I’m a big fan of golf.

 

[WinterBorn]

Plus the other problem with atheism is that it is a purely political stunt. Mostly used by Marxist political strategists. In contrast, religions offer personal enrichment.

The problem with atheism is that god can't be fully proven nor fully disproven.

Its always going to be a problem for anyone to prove or disprove an idea that’s essentially meaningless.

If you really believed belief in God were meaningless you wouldn’t be here.

What a load of horseshit. A person cannot come here to discuss the various religions, faiths and/or superstitions that have shaped our world? A person cannot come here to challenge those who make ridiculous claims about atheists? A person cannot come here to learn?

Your attempts at telling people why they are posting in this forum are a failure.

I don’t really see them doing that here. Do you?

Would you like to discuss the various religions with me?

I haven’t seen anyone want to understand my beliefs? You would be the first and it would be welcomed.

When someone insists that everyone with my beliefs is a marxist, is a real discussion expected? Every point you have made has been refuted, and yet you still want to insist that all atheists want to subordinate religions.

 

[WinterBorn]

WTF? How does my not believing in any deity equate to me engaging in demoralization or destabilization?

Answer? It doesn't. Your claim is either based in ignorance or an outright lie.

Most atheists do neither. They simply live their lives without the belief in some spirit in the sky.

Is that why you are posting in a religious forum? You are just living your life? Give me a break. You are here to subordinate religion.

The forum is called "Religion and ETHICS".

I have posted in this forum often enough. Please find any posts of mine that are anti-religion or were posted to subordinate religion.

Yes, it is. Why do you think atheists spend all their time discussing religion?

So have you found any post I made that subordinates religion? Or is anti-religion?

Or will you admit you lied?

Your condemnation is much more veiled than others. You are more subtle than others. I credit you for that. But let’s be honest, you don’t come here to learn or because you are curious.

I have not condemned any religion. I have condemned attacks on atheists and the insistence that we are all Marxists.

In fact, you can find posts of mine defending people's right to their faith and their worship. So, if there is someone here who is not trying to understand or learn, that would be you more than me.

 

[WinterBorn]

WTF? How does my not believing in any deity equate to me engaging in demoralization or destabilization?

Answer? It doesn't. Your claim is either based in ignorance or an outright lie.

Most atheists do neither. They simply live their lives without the belief in some spirit in the sky.

Is that why you are posting in a religious forum? You are just living your life? Give me a break. You are here to subordinate religion.

The forum is called "Religion and ETHICS".

I have posted in this forum often enough. Please find any posts of mine that are anti-religion or were posted to subordinate religion.

Yes, it is. Why do you think atheists spend all their time discussing religion?

All our time discussing religion? Silly me. Here I thought all those posts in the Sports forum were about sports.

I was talking about this room.

I love sports though. I’m a big fan of golf.

There have been discussions on ethics as well. But when I see threads started denigrating atheists, yes I tend to step in and see what is being said.

 

[WinterBorn]

Plus the other problem with atheism is that it is a purely political stunt. Mostly used by Marxist political strategists. In contrast, religions offer personal enrichment.

The problem with atheism is that god can't be fully proven nor fully disproven.

Its always going to be a problem for anyone to prove or disprove an idea that’s essentially meaningless.

If you really believed belief in God were meaningless you wouldn’t be here.

What a load of horseshit. A person cannot come here to discuss the various religions, faiths and/or superstitions that have shaped our world? A person cannot come here to challenge those who make ridiculous claims about atheists? A person cannot come here to learn?

Your attempts at telling people why they are posting in this forum are a failure.

I don’t really see them doing that here. Do you?

Would you like to discuss the various religions with me?

I haven’t seen anyone want to understand my beliefs? You would be the first and it would be welcomed.

No, I haven't. But then, your beliefs haven't been part of our conversation. Just your erroneous ideas about atheism.

 

[WinterBorn]

Plus the other problem with atheism is that it is a purely political stunt. Mostly used by Marxist political strategists. In contrast, religions offer personal enrichment.

The problem with atheism is that god can't be fully proven nor fully disproven.

Its always going to be a problem for anyone to prove or disprove an idea that’s essentially meaningless.

If you really believed belief in God were meaningless you wouldn’t be here.

What a load of horseshit. A person cannot come here to discuss the various religions, faiths and/or superstitions that have shaped our world? A person cannot come here to challenge those who make ridiculous claims about atheists? A person cannot come here to learn?

Your attempts at telling people why they are posting in this forum are a failure.

I don’t really see them doing that here. Do you?

Would you like to discuss the various religions with me?

I haven’t seen anyone want to understand my beliefs? You would be the first and it would be welcomed.

Oh, and one more thing about your "Would you like to discuss the various religions with me?" remark.

So far, in this thread, you have told me what atheists do. You have told me that I only come here to condemn religions. And you have told me that I am a Marxist. You have not accepted one thing I have said, despite the fact that I am talking about atheism, and I am an atheist.

Why would I want to discuss various religions with someone who only accepts his own views and insists he knows why other posts what they do?

 

[ding]

The problem with atheism is that god can't be fully proven nor fully disproven.

Its always going to be a problem for anyone to prove or disprove an idea that’s essentially meaningless.

If you really believed belief in God were meaningless you wouldn’t be here.

What a load of horseshit. A person cannot come here to discuss the various religions, faiths and/or superstitions that have shaped our world? A person cannot come here to challenge those who make ridiculous claims about atheists? A person cannot come here to learn?

Your attempts at telling people why they are posting in this forum are a failure.

I don’t really see them doing that here. Do you?

Would you like to discuss the various religions with me?

I haven’t seen anyone want to understand my beliefs? You would be the first and it would be welcomed.

When someone insists that everyone with my beliefs is a marxist, is a real discussion expected? Every point you have made has been refuted, and yet you still want to insist that all atheists want to subordinate religions.

Did I say that? I said atheists who further the goals of marxists are either their dupes or they are Marxists themselves.

Atheism does lead to socialism and communism. Which does not mean that all atheists are marxists or communist.

Would you agree that there has never been a communist state that wasn't a militant atheist state?

Would you agree that the less religious Europe became the more socialistic it became?

Would you disagree that the founding fathers of communism believed that the more humanistic their society became the more communistic it became?

So how is it that their beliefs were not matched by what happened in history?