Is it fair to have pit bulls around other people?

[Anguille]

Off topic - how does an angry eel turn into a nosy neighbor and then back again? Simply bewitching...

LOL! Echo and Dis requested the name change from Gunny and I agreed to it.

 

[Coyote]

Irrelevant.

An average of 4 Pitbull fatalities and 10 maimings a year, out of a population of 5 million pitbulls....

Out of a populatiion of 254.4 million cars, there are ... six million car accidents each year, causing permenant injury to 2 million of those people and killing 40,000 people AND the leading cause of death for individuals between 2 and 34 years old is motor vehicle crashes.


Which is statistically relevant? Which causes more real loss of life and limb...hmmm?

So you're suggesting that pit bull owners should be required to get a license and have their dog's registered and inspected annually. Interesting idea.

Hmm...now where did I suggest that....

 

[Anguille]

An average of 4 Pitbull fatalities and 10 maimings a year, out of a population of 5 million pitbulls....

Out of a populatiion of 254.4 million cars, there are ... six million car accidents each year, causing permenant injury to 2 million of those people and killing 40,000 people AND the leading cause of death for individuals between 2 and 34 years old is motor vehicle crashes.


Which is statistically relevant? Which causes more real loss of life and limb...hmmm?

So you're suggesting that pit bull owners should be required to get a license and have their dog's registered and inspected annually. Interesting idea.

Hmm...now where did I suggest that....

I wonder what planet manifold posts from?
My city requires all dogs be licensed and be regularly vaccinated against rabies. I assume most districts do the same.

 

[Toronado3800]

Pit Bulls are interesting. I'm not allowed to own a lion or even bob cat w/o quite the bit of paperwork.

I'll say folks are allowed to have the dog but are entirely responsible for its behavior. Dog bites someone who wasn't taunting it owner gets charged with assault. Dog bites someone breaking into the house no big deal.

Then whoever will take the time to train and treat their dog right will still own one.

Interesting point, as a juvenile I had one exciting experience with a rottweiler. Darn thing swallowed one of my mittens as we were going at it! All because I was walking across its front yard. (busy street, no side walk)

Its my only bad experience with a big dog though. Folks and their shih tzu and other goofy dogs bread to be tiny but not smart. I've seen probably five of those bite folks. Funny none of them lord awful animals got put down.

 

[Anguille]

I wonder why Ravi slunk out of this thread?

 

[Ravi]

It seemed pointless to continue reading your mindless babbling on the subject and watching you ignore points that others made.

Don't worry, I'm working tirelessly to ban the breeding of pit bulls in my county.

IMO, breeding pit bulls is animal cruelty since so many of them must be put down because of the danger to the public they pose.

 

[Anguille]

It seemed pointless to continue reading your mindless babbling on the subject and watching you ignore points that others made.

Don't worry, I'm working tirelessly to ban the breeding of pit bulls in my county.

IMO, breeding pit bulls is animal cruelty since so many of them must be put down because of the danger to the public they pose.

Yeah, I really believe that's why you left this thread.

 

[Ravi]

Whatever kind of dog that is and for whatever reason it was provoked into baring it's fangs, it's only representative of that individual dog.

Right. But Petey the little rascal's dog represents all pit bulls.

Epic Fail!

Like this one...very funny.

 

[manifold]

So you're suggesting that pit bull owners should be required to get a license and have their dog's registered and inspected annually. Interesting idea.

Hmm...now where did I suggest that....

I wonder what planet manifold posts from?
My city requires all dogs be licensed and be regularly vaccinated against rabies. I assume most districts do the same.

Nice strawman.

But I guess I left it ambiguous enough to allow a skilled charlatan such as yourself to dive right in.


Good for you.

 

[ron scott]

hey thanks coyote, that works!

 

[ron scott]

new here and would like to know how i can keep track of my posts?
is there a way to do that?
the search window sort of helped but I still had to dig through pages to find my last post
and I know I have other posts I made that didn't come up when I searched my user name..


thanks, anyone,

"nice dog"

If you click on your name next to your avatar on a message - it should show a pull down menu that lets you look at all your posts. (I'm not sure I'm explaining it well, but give it a try?)

sorry, experimenting with reply, thanks again.
* firstreply did not add "quote message in reply" and it seemed discomboggled (is that a word?)

 

[ron scott]

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seems there should be a discombobbled, but don't think they is!
who writes these dictionaries anyway? republicans?
LOL

 

[Coyote]

It seemed pointless to continue reading your mindless babbling on the subject and watching you ignore points that others made.
Don't worry, I'm working tirelessly to ban the breeding of pit bulls in my county.

IMO, breeding pit bulls is animal cruelty since so many of them must be put down because of the danger to the public they pose.

That is strange. There have been countless posts countering your points. Have you missed them? Or....did you ignore them?

 

[Coyote]

hey thanks coyote, that works!

 

[Anguille]

It seemed pointless to continue reading your mindless babbling on the subject and watching you ignore points that others made.

Don't worry, I'm working tirelessly to ban the breeding of pit bulls in my county.

IMO, breeding pit bulls is animal cruelty since so many of them must be put down because of the danger to the public they pose.

You participate in the fear mongering about pit bulls which leads to them being put down and then you call for a ban on breeding them because they get put down.

How many pit bulls have actually been put down because they are a genuine danger to the public? Compare that number to the number of pit bulls that have never caused anyone any harm. Tell me again if that justifies banning them.

I'm not talking about dogs put down as a result of laws which require confiscation and mass exterminations of all pit bulls in a certain area, I'm speaking about the number of pit bulls that have actually attacked people and have been put down as a result.

There are examples among all breeds and mixed breeds too of dogs who have been put down because they were dangerous. By your reasoning we should ban the breeding of all dogs. Is it your aim to eliminate dogs altogether?

I am in favor of stricter regulations governing the breeding of all dogs. Many breeds have been cruelly abused for the sake of fashion and monetary gain. It's animal cruelty to exploit Chihuahuas with birth defects to breed teacup Chihuahuas, poor creatures only survive a few months or years and then die slow deaths due to the birth defects. As do many of the toy breeds.

Pit bulls aren't known to suffer from as many genetic problems as many other breeds but anyone in the business of breeding them to try and emphasize unnatural aggression and fighting skills should be shut down and sent to jail for animal cruelty. Responsible breeders breeding them to be healthy family pets should be allowed to continue same as any other dog breeder.

I am against breeding in general because there are so many unscrupulous breeders but I realize that in most areas, the natural way of letting your pooch run lose to mate with whoever she chooses and producing a litter of good old All American mutts the old fashioned way is over. So, since I think dogs are important to us in so many ways, I have to accept that as time goes on, we will be relying more and more on breeders to provide them for us. Before that happens though I would like to see the number of dogs produced from breeding operations reduced until all the unwanted strays in the world have a home.

 

[Anguille]

Hmm...now where did I suggest that....

I wonder what planet manifold posts from?
My city requires all dogs be licensed and be regularly vaccinated against rabies. I assume most districts do the same.

Nice strawman.

But I guess I left it ambiguous enough to allow a skilled charlatan such as yourself to dive right in.


Good for you.

Thanks for the complement. Being called a skilled charlatan by non other than the fabled MP himself is a great honor.

I notice that while you have proposed several breed specific laws you have yet to mention any support for laws that are aimed at reducing dog related death and injury as a result of neglect and abuse of dogs - which is what experts tell us is the major factor contributing to this problem. You even took to your bed and weeped for a week it looked like your hero, Michael Vick, Dog Abuser Extraordinaire, was not going to be allowed to play football anymore.

I hope you don't own a dog. You seem to me to be the type of person would spend a lot of money to buy a status building trophy dog like a Golden Retriever, thinking it's some kind of warranteed product and then proceed to neglect it, never train it or give it proper exercise and socialization with people and other dogs and end up totally baffled as to why the dog ate your kid.

 

[manifold]

Hey Ang.



Fuck you, you lying ****.

 

[Anguille]

Hey Ang.



Fuck you, you lying ****.

 

[manifold]

Looks like the lying **** is feeling guilty.


Unfortunately I'm not in the absolution business.

You'll need to find yourself a priest.

 

[Anguille]

Feeling guilty? Because you're having another meltdown?

Not my fault that I hit a nerve.