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Is it fair to blame Donald Trump for the damage done by Covid?

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Cuomo was the first Governor to face a major COVID outbreak
At the time, there was little known about the virus and how it spreads. He received no guidance on how he should deal with nursing home residents and nobody at the time recommended against it.

You are Monday Morning Quarterbacking
Guidance? After a short period of telling New Yorkers not to worry and go back to work. Maybe Andy was advised by his brother who was a CNN anchor of how advantageous it would be to blame Trump so he reversed course and screamed about NY needing thousands of new resuscitators. It seems that Cuomo was obviously aware of the impact of the virus when he demanded resuscitators but he still issued an Executive Order that doomed about an estimated 10,000 nursing home residents.
 

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The patients were dying right off the bat and everyone knew why.

Make you the same offer

Show any guidance from Feb 2020 detailing how nursing home patients should be housed
Show anyone advising Cuomo he should not be doing that
 

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Guidance? After a short period of telling New Yorkers not to worry and go back to work. Maybe Andy was advised by his brother who was a CNN anchor of how advantageous it would be to blame Trump so he reversed course and screamed about NY needing thousands of new resuscitators. It seems that Cuomo was obviously aware of the impact of the virus when he demanded resuscitators but he still issued an Executive Order that doomed about an estimated 10,000 nursing home residents.
OK
You got nothing

Anyone have ANYTHING from Feb 2020 on the dangers of housing nursing home patients

Anyone? Anyone?

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Make you the same offer

Show any guidance from Feb 2020 detailing how nursing home patients should be housed
Show anyone advising Cuomo he should not be doing that
Trump provided a navy vessel and Cuomo, receiving an incentive from nursing home owners to contribute to his next campaign, sent them to sure death.
 

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You got nothing

Anyone have ANYTHING from Feb 2020 on the dangers of housing nursing home patients

Anyone? Anyone?

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Doctors and nurses who worked in them.
Did you expect the media to report that their dear Future President Cuomo was being bribed to send old people to their deaths?
 

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Trump provided a navy vessel and Cuomo, receiving an incentive from nursing home owners to contribute to his next campaign, sent them to sure death.

OK
Show where Cuomo was advised to use the Navy Ships to house Nursing Home Patients

Trump was the guy in charge
Why did he leave it to Governors to figure out how to fight COVID?
 

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Doctors and nurses who worked in them.
Did you expect the media to report that their dear Future President Cuomo was being bribed to send old people to their deaths?
OK

Show me where Doctors and Nurses advised Cuomo on how nursing home patients should be housed
 

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Show where Cuomo was advised to use the Navy Ships to house Nursing Home Patients

Trump was the guy in charge
Why did he leave it to Governors to figure out how to fight COVID?

Whenever Trump took charge you called him a tyrant.
 

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OK

Show me where Doctors and Nurses advised Cuomo on how nursing home patients should be housed
You're funny...Cuomo wasn't going to let anyone get in the way of his next campaign being funded.
 

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Nice Ship

Show where Trumps experts said it should be used to house the elderly
Did you read the article or are you afraid you'll never get another consulting gig from the leader of your local Democratic club?
 

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Did you read the article or are you afraid you'll never get another consulting gig from the leader of your local Democratic club?
Show where it said it should be used to house nursing home patients
 

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Show where it said it should be used to house nursing home patients
Patients in danger of contracting the corona virus.
Cuomo and the nursing home owners knew they could make a fortune by diagnosing and dumping the dead day after day.

By the way, your questions are as relevant as you never criticizing a Liberal because you'll never get another job.
You actually believe the Lame Stream Media would report the truth when they could turn this into an anti-Trump campaign.
 

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That, the media, is who you get your information from unless you lived with Trump at the WH.

so he never stood in front of the American people and spoke to us even once? are you sure about that?
 

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A Link?
You mean you don't watch the news every night?
Even if I supplied a Link you would you would scream I selected a special night.
Do yourself a favor and watch the news.

No, I do not watch the news. Watching the news is far and away the worst possible way to be informed. They pick your stores and you are influenced by their emotions and even their appearance.

But I do know from reading the actual news that Trump never tried to close the entire US border.
 

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No, I do not watch the news. Watching the news is far and away the worst possible way to be informed. They pick your stores and you are influenced by their emotions and even their appearance.

But I do know from reading the actual news that Trump never tried to close the entire US border.
Try AP News, BBC and Reuters for 5 minutes a day.
You are correct as almost every other outlet is skewed beyond these 3.
Trump wanted flights suspended; he knew he couldn't close the entire border because both parties want an open border.
 

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Try AP News, BBC and Reuters for 5 minutes a day.

I do read stories from them. The only time I watch news is for a live event that is being broadcast as it happens.
 

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He pretty clearly enabled the notion that this was being overblown, and that stopped people from getting vaccinated. How many of them died? How many of them spread it to others that died? I don't believe that's a small number.

Overall, he:
  • LIED to the American public about the severity of a deadly global pandemic as it was bearing down on us
  • ATTACKED our best health and science officials when they were just trying to do their damn jobs
  • MOCKED Americans who were just trying to protect themselves and their loved ones with masks and social distancing
  • THANKED supporters who gathered in indoor spaces without masks, creating super-spreader events
  • MAINTAINED an environment of not taking the virus seriously, which obviously spread to the sheep, no doubt spreading the virus further
  • IGNORED health safety protocols at the fucking WHITE HOUSE, turning it into a fucking COVID HOT SPOT that needed to be FUMIGATED
  • LIED AGAIN to the American public by constantly saying "we're turning the corner on the virus", even when they knew goddamn well we were no
As opposed to Biden and Democrats who:

- We're too busy with failed Coop attempts and failed Impeachments yo see the pandemic coming

- Opposed the life-saving travel ban...the one Biden later said was the right thing to do...before Biden imposed his own travel bans

- Lied about the life-saving ability of therapeutics and harmed/killed Americans by withholding them just so Trump would not be proven right...which he has been

- Undermined confidence in the vaccines by declaring they would not take vaccines created under Trump (Biden, Harris, Pelosi, & others)

- After the world watched Biden get both vaccines before being sworn in, the dementia-ravaged SOB attempted to claim credit for them, claiming the vaccines did not exist until he was sworn in

- Despite all evidence pointing to a Wuhan lab leak, Compromised CCP Biden blamed everyone except the country who vmcreated and Unleashed it on the world, killing thousands of Americans...and still does

- Fauci and the NIH helped fund Gain Of Function Testing & only now has the NIH been FORCED to come clean and admit it. Fauci is still playing word games yo save his ass
-- NOW it has been exposed the sick little bastard was torturing and killing puppies and monkeys

- Democrats used the pandemic to issue Un-Constitutional, illegal quarantine, mask, and vaccine mandates, victims civil & Constitutional rights, wiping out all successes experienced under Ttump, & to bankrupt/ destroy over 50% of all minority-owned small businesses,forcing millions of Americans back onto Democrat social program plantations they had escaped under Trump

- Democrats have used the virus to cause the supply chain crisis, inflation, decreasing job growth, and to hurt the economy

- Democrats intentionally murdered tens of thousands of elderly Americans after acknowledging they were the most susceptible to die from the virus by then packing nursing homes with virus-infected patients

- Biden began withholding life-saving COVID-19 treatments from states who refused to enforce Biden's illegal vaccine mandates

- Liberals began refusing to give needy patients life-saving organ transplants to patients who had not gotten the vaccine, despite the fact they had natural immunity, etc...
- Can you say 'extortion?

- Speaking of extortion, 1sr Responders and military members are being told they will be fired, dishonorable discharged, and their earned benefits will be withheld

- Firing thousands of critical job holders endangers lives, and doing so in the middle of Biden's bad economy only hurts the economy more
- Proving his mandates are all about control, the hypocritical tyrants constantly are caught violating their own mandates ... and Exempting 1.8 million illegals - 30-40% which are infected - from getting vaccines proves it is all about control and / or Nidrn doesn't give a damn about American lives
 

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America has 2,273 COVID deaths per million pop

Korea has 54

Korea didn't have to shutdown. Korea didn't have to pay out 2, trillion dollar stimulus programs.

No reason trump couldn't have copied Korea. They would've shared their strategy for fighting COVID.

trump killed 600,000 Americans, more Americans than the Nazis did.

How many people fly into Korea on a daily basis, compared to the US?
 

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