CDZ Is Iran a sponsor of Terrorism?

[Mindful]

Yes. The Iran theocracy is evil. The fact that they're messianic makes an Iran with nuclear weapons a nightmare -- a real danger to the civilized world!

I remember Ahmadinejad enthusing about the apocalyptic end of times. With almost religious fervour.

 

[Penelope]

Yes. The Iran theocracy is evil. The fact that they're messianic makes an Iran with nuclear weapons a nightmare -- a real danger to the civilized world!

A lot of Christians are messianic and they have nukes. I think Saudi Arabia is more a terrorist, for Israelites its Iran and Iraq. Bibi's bomb pic was for Iran.

 

[sparky]

Simple poll with 2 choices

This is not about the US, either stick to the OP or leave

Binary thinking is the penchant of fascists

~S~

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Iran spreads terrorism, primarily by proxy.

The US spreads terror among the terrorists. Since we will now hold the sponsoring nation responsible for the work of their proxies, this will likely expand and accelerate.

 

[sartre play]

We the people did not get a voice about wanting the real possibility of a new war, we are not even out of the old one.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

If the US is a state sponsor of terrorism, Iran is a state sponsor of terrorism. If the US is not a state sponsor of terrorism, Iran is not a state sponsor of terrorism. Iran has designated the entire US military as a terrorist organisation.

The term terrorism doesn't mean anything you want it to mean simply because you support the Mullahs.

 

[Penelope]

Iran spreads terrorism, primarily by proxy.

The US spreads terror among the terrorists. Since we will now hold the sponsoring nation responsible for the work of their proxies, this will likely expand and accelerate.

So does Saudi Arabia, but you don't see us sanctioning SA.

 

[Penelope]

We the people did not get a voice about wanting the real possibility of a new war, we are not even out of the old one.

McCain said it right in a debate in 2008, we will never leave the ME.

 

[cnm]

If the US is a state sponsor of terrorism, Iran is a state sponsor of terrorism. If the US is not a state sponsor of terrorism, Iran is not a state sponsor of terrorism. Iran has designated the entire US military as a terrorist organisation.

The term terrorism doesn't mean anything you want it to mean simply because you support the Mullahs.

True. These are the meanings given by a couple of dictionaries, which fit both countries or neither country.

terrorism
the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion

terrorism
the systematic and organized use of violence and intimidation to force a government or community, etc to act in a certain way or accept certain demands.​

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Simple poll with 2 choices. It is a public poll so we can see who believes what. It is in CDZ to avoid name calling and personal attacks. Feel free to explain why you voted how you did. Be warned this is NOT a thread about the USA, Israel or any other Country it is about Iran. Be aware that the US has designated Iran as a State Sponsor of terrorism before you vote. I would LOVE to hear why if you disagree , your rationale.

Yes, Iran is a State Sponsor of Terrorism...

In Lebanon you can see the many years of destruction that is left by Hebollah war with Israel and in Yemen you can see Iran prints all over that war...

In Syria they have been involved in keeping Assad and in Iraq they support Shi'ite Militants...

They back countries like North Korea and have funded Cartels and Latino Gangs...

So yes they are a State Sponsor of Terrorism, but so is Russia, China and even the United States of America...

 

[Yarddog]

One where you actually explain as I have what terror acts the US sponsored and supported.

You have explained nothing, you've made vague unreferenced claims, you haven't even defined terrorism.

Number one, Terrorists like Iran and its proxies, Hezbollah for example, specifically target civilians.. don't mind torturing them in horrendous ways as well.. to the death. yes you can and will compare the US to them, after all we waterboarded a terrorist.
The US has been trying to achieve peace settlements through out the Middle East and in places like Korea. Real terrorists don't waste their time with trying to find peace. Iran for example isn't looking for solutions with Israel, they are looking to kill them all. that is the purpose of Hezbollah. Our military hasnt always acted perfectly because every military operation in the close proximity of civilians is going to have too many variables, but to compare what we do militarily to targeting civilians... doing things like taking a power drill to someones family etc.. things that your Hezbollah bretheren are known for, is completely ludicrous.
The problem with liberals is its not a perfect world and they live in a place they can criticize. Yes, the US has done some bad things but in the real world you just have to pick a side. Pick a side with who you think has the best intentions. Most of us here choose to support the U.S.... you should pack up and move to Iran. Give them your full support.

 

[Syriusly]

Simple poll with 2 choices. It is a public poll so we can see who believes what. It is in CDZ to avoid name calling and personal attacks. Feel free to explain why you voted how you did. Be warned this is NOT a thread about the USA, Israel or any other Country it is about Iran. Be aware that the US has designated Iran as a State Sponsor of terrorism before you vote. I would LOVE to hear why if you disagree , your rationale.

Absolutely Iran is and has been. Not the only country doing so of course- Syria is another. But Iran certainly is.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

If the US is a state sponsor of terrorism, Iran is a state sponsor of terrorism. If the US is not a state sponsor of terrorism, Iran is not a state sponsor of terrorism. Iran has designated the entire US military as a terrorist organisation.

The term terrorism doesn't mean anything you want it to mean simply because you support the Mullahs.

True. These are the meanings given by a couple of dictionaries, which fit both countries or neither country.

terrorism
the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion

terrorism
the systematic and organized use of violence and intimidation to force a government or community, etc to act in a certain way or accept certain demands.​

Based upon the intentional killing of innocent people BECAUSE they are innocent people.

You are trying to conflate that with any state action undertaken against those who engage in terrorism -- a very dishonest ruse intended to support the terrorism through the use of false equivalences.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Take the discussion on the US to his thread. You know the one in the bottom section of the board. This thread is about Iran.

 

[skye]

When Soleimani was alive, and under the Mullahs with the Islamic Revolution , yes Iran is/was a sponsor of terrorism ...absolutely!

Now that Soleimani - who was Number One sponsor of terrorism in the world - is dead (Thank you President Trump! ) we have to wait and see what way Iran decides to go.


so that's why I couldn't vote...I will give Iran the benefit of the doubt.

 

[skye]

Happening as we speak in Iran!

 

[gtopa1]

If the US is a state sponsor of terrorism, Iran is a state sponsor of terrorism. If the US is not a state sponsor of terrorism, Iran is not a state sponsor of terrorism. Iran has designated the entire US military as a terrorist organisation.

The term terrorism doesn't mean anything you want it to mean simply because you support the Mullahs.

True. These are the meanings given by a couple of dictionaries, which fit both countries or neither country.

terrorism
the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion

terrorism
the systematic and organized use of violence and intimidation to force a government or community, etc to act in a certain way or accept certain demands.​

Terrorists demand ther own way; the US and allies d emand Justice and the Rule. of Law
You just hate the USA.

 

[Ria_Longhorn]

Yes. The Iran theocracy is evil. The fact that they're messianic makes an Iran with nuclear weapons a nightmare -- a real danger to the civilized world!

A lot of Christians are messianic and they have nukes. I think Saudi Arabia is more a terrorist, for Israelites its Iran and Iraq. Bibi's bomb pic was for Iran.

Penelope wrote:
"A lot of Christians are messianic and they have nukes."
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RL replies:

The thing is those messianic Christians didn't fire over 30 rockets at the American-Iraqi base, killing an American interpreter while wounding three American soldiers; those messianic Christians didn't storm the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad with the intention of burning it down; those messianic Christians didn't shoot down an American drone; those messianic Christians didn't capture two American Navy boats, blindfolded and bound the U.S. crew and then replaced the American flag with an Iranian one; those messianic Christians don't parade their missiles every year with "Death to America" written on them!

 

[Ria_Longhorn]

Yes. The Iran theocracy is evil. The fact that they're messianic makes an Iran with nuclear weapons a nightmare -- a real danger to the civilized world!

I remember Ahmadinejad enthusing about the apocalyptic end of times. With almost religious fervour.

"Ahmadinejad's preoccupation with the Mahdi* is raising concerns in the West that a nuclear Iran could actually bring about the global war that he envisions taking place upon the Mahdi's arrival.

"In a videotaped meeting with Ayatollah Javadi Amoli in Tehran, Ahmadinejad described an event that took place while he was addressing the United Nations in New York in 2006.

"He recounted being surrounded by a green light from heaven that supposedly shone down on the podium. A transcript of the speech indicates that others from his entourage alerted him to the light, which, they say, appeared as he spoke the words 'in the name of Allah.'

"Ahmadinejad also claims that for the 28 minutes he spoke, none of the world leaders in the audience blinked. To him, and those in his delegation, it was a clear sign that Ahmadinejad's main mission is to pave the path for the reappearance of Imam Mahdi. He has said as much in several speeches, including a speech in Tehran on November 16, 2006.

"... Muslims believe that when the Mahdi returns, he will reign on earth for seven years before bring about a final judgement, and the end of the world."

Gary Frazier, It Could Happen Tomorrow, p.41

*Mahdi - Wikipedia

 

[Penelope]

Yes. The Iran theocracy is evil. The fact that they're messianic makes an Iran with nuclear weapons a nightmare -- a real danger to the civilized world!

A lot of Christians are messianic and they have nukes. I think Saudi Arabia is more a terrorist, for Israelites its Iran and Iraq. Bibi's bomb pic was for Iran.

Penelope wrote:
"A lot of Christians are messianic and they have nukes."
= = = = = = = =

RL replies:

The thing is those messianic Christians didn't fire over 30 rockets at the American-Iraqi base, killing an American interpreter while wounding three American soldiers; those messianic Christians didn't storm the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad with the intention of burning it down; those messianic Christians didn't shoot down an American drone; those messianic Christians didn't capture two American Navy boats, blindfolded and bound the U.S. crew and then replaced the American flag with an Iranian one; those messianic Christians don't parade their missiles every year with "Death to America" written on them!

Well what the heck were those American soldiers doing in Iraq??

And those navy boats boys were treated with respect, they were given good food and released.

I doubt they wanted to burn the embassy in Bagdad down.

Well in a way I don't blame them for saying death to America, when you say under your breath death to Iran.

After all Iran never attacked American soil. Nor for that matter did Iraq. You must be a Zionist.