Is God vs Satan - Final Battle how the world supposed to end?

[hangover]

God's laws don't change.

If that is true then the only thing about the Law that could have become obsolete after Christ first appeared was the way people understood and applied the Law as it is taught to be understood and applied in the Talmud, what Jesus called the traditions of men, not the Law itself. By teaching that the Law was figurative and the subjects hidden Jesus effectively created a new heaven and a new earth for all those who could perceive it without adding, subtracting, or changing a single word of the written Law.

It follows then, since Gods laws don't change, the only way that there could ever be a possibility of a new heaven and a new earth is if people change the way they understand those subjects that has obviously become lost to time and perverted from the way that Jesus originally taught to understand and apply the Law, the only way to the kingdom of heaven and eternal life, by saying 'eat my flesh' ..

A lot of "so called" Christians don't believe in evolution, even though it's right in front of their faces. In the last 150 years, we gone from horse back to the moon....we've gone from candles to the electrical lighting of the whole planet. Knowledge only doubled from the invention of the steam engine until 1950. Now knowledge doubles every twenty years...by 2020 knowledge will double every two days.

At that rate, we will have the knowledge to travel to a different galaxy in less that 100 years. Ta da! New heaven, new earth.

Everything we know comes from the knowledge of God. God gives us that knowledge when we are ready to know it.

 

[hobelim]

God's laws don't change.

If that is true then the only thing about the Law that could have become obsolete after Christ first appeared was the way people understood and applied the Law as it is taught to be understood and applied in the Talmud, what Jesus called the traditions of men, not the Law itself. By teaching that the Law was figurative and the subjects hidden Jesus effectively created a new heaven and a new earth for all those who could perceive it without adding, subtracting, or changing a single word of the written Law.

It follows then, since Gods laws don't change, the only way that there could ever be a possibility of a new heaven and a new earth is if people change the way they understand those subjects that has obviously become lost to time and perverted from the way that Jesus originally taught to understand and apply the Law, the only way to the kingdom of heaven and eternal life, by saying 'eat my flesh' ..

A lot of "so called" Christians don't believe in evolution, even though it's right in front of their faces. In the last 150 years, we gone from horse back to the moon....we've gone from candles to the electrical lighting of the whole planet. Knowledge only doubled from the invention of the steam engine until 1950. Now knowledge doubles every twenty years...by 2020 knowledge will double every two days.

At that rate, we will have the knowledge to travel to a different galaxy in less that 100 years. Ta da! New heaven, new earth.

Everything we know comes from the knowledge of God. God gives us that knowledge when we are ready to know it.

Nah, your thoughts have been diverted by superstitious woo-woo lore.

When Jesus first walked the earth people were entering the kingdom of heaven way back then and no spaceships, time travel; no new solar systems or new planets were involved.

 

[hangover]

God's laws don't change.

If that is true then the only thing about the Law that could have become obsolete after Christ first appeared was the way people understood and applied the Law as it is taught to be understood and applied in the Talmud, what Jesus called the traditions of men, not the Law itself. By teaching that the Law was figurative and the subjects hidden Jesus effectively created a new heaven and a new earth for all those who could perceive it without adding, subtracting, or changing a single word of the written Law.

It follows then, since Gods laws don't change, the only way that there could ever be a possibility of a new heaven and a new earth is if people change the way they understand those subjects that has obviously become lost to time and perverted from the way that Jesus originally taught to understand and apply the Law, the only way to the kingdom of heaven and eternal life, by saying 'eat my flesh' ..

A lot of "so called" Christians don't believe in evolution, even though it's right in front of their faces. In the last 150 years, we gone from horse back to the moon....we've gone from candles to the electrical lighting of the whole planet. Knowledge only doubled from the invention of the steam engine until 1950. Now knowledge doubles every twenty years...by 2020 knowledge will double every two days.

At that rate, we will have the knowledge to travel to a different galaxy in less that 100 years. Ta da! New heaven, new earth.

Everything we know comes from the knowledge of God. God gives us that knowledge when we are ready to know it.

Nah, your thoughts have been diverted by superstitious woo-woo lore.

When Jesus first walked the earth people were entering the kingdom of heaven way back then and no spaceships, time travel; no new solar systems or new planets were involved.

Elijah and Enoch were both taken up to heaven in spaceships. They were called fiery chariots back then.

 

[hobelim]

Elijah and Enoch were both taken up to heaven in spaceships. They were called fiery chariots back then.

Before every prophet receives a word from God they perceive in their minds, the Shekinah, described as a burning bush by Moses, the glory of God by others, and chariots of fire by Elijah. Thats why Elijah told Elisha that he would become a prophet like him if he sees that when Elijah dies, is taken up into heaven.

Being "taken up" into heaven by a whirlwind is a euphemism for them being killed by a mob, at the center of a swirling storm of angry people like in a lynching.

 

[Moonglow]

 

[james bond]

I lol'd but the answer is wrong. As a coincidence, atheists are usually wrong.

 

[September]

The Zoroastrian influence on Abrahamism is particularly evident in Christianity. The Satan of Judaism was not depicted as the source of all evil, as Christians believe, and there was no perceived duality between Satan and God...​

 

[HaShev]

I lol'd but the answer is wrong. As a coincidence, atheists are usually wrong.

Hate to break the news, but even trinitarians get it wrong. The original trinity was
Father-Mother-son, before it changed to Father-word-son, then as you claim it today it changed to Father-holy spirit-son.

Since Jesus is claimed the Morning Star in Rev 22:16 and never mentions the father's name it requires KNOWLEDGE of mythologies, symbolism, and archeological discoveries to pinpoint the trinity's characters.
Father of morning star=Baal
Mother=Isis (Ishtar=Easter)
Son=Morning Star (Lucifer Jesus)

Father Baal was found with predated similar stories given to the dying son Jesus therefore he is Father Baal-Word or spirit of Father Baal-Dying "son" mythology of the Canaanites whereby in dying the son(morning star) surpasses his father on the throne as a mask for Baal worship under the guise of the new impersonated image.
This is why it says 1/3 would be lead to worship The fallen first messiah
aka Lucifer (morning star), that they'd become like wormwood(poisonous & deadly herb). That they'd be deceived, even the elect.
There's also a warning in the scrolls of those who claim a son of God.
An Aramaic Apocalypse" 4Q246 part2
"The Son of God he will be proclaimed (or proclaim himself) and the son of the most high they will call him....They will reign for years on the earth & they will trample all. People will trample people.
(THIS has Happened in the Name of the Church of the son of Baal)
Research the Baal cross, it's the one with the radiant sun (circle) behind the cross.
Research The British Museum's
Marduk's Ordeal tablet (Bel Tablet).
discovered in the town of
Nineveh in Assyria, and dates from 700 B.C.
described in a passion play in which:
(1) Bel is taken prisoner;
(2) Bel is tried in a great hall;
(3) Bel is smitten;
(4) Bel is led away to the Mount (a sacred grove on a
hilltop);
(5) with Bel are taken two malefactors, one of whom is
released;
(6) After Bel has gone to the Mount and is executed,
the city breaks into tumult;
(7) Bel's clothes are carried away;
(8.) Bel goes down into the Mount and disappears from
life;
(9) weeping women seek Bel at the Tomb;
(10) Bel is brought back to life.
Baal's birthday is Dec 25th thus father and son are one in the same mythology.

Now you can secret the number of His name. Baal Jesus=666 in ASCll numerology used to secret numbers from names.

 

[hobelim]

Now you can secret the number of His name. Baal Jesus=666 in ASCll numerology used to secret numbers from names.

Bullshit. the number 666 has nothing whatever to do with numerology or the name of Jesus.

The only other time the number 666, the number of the beast, a man, is mentioned in the entire Bible is in describing Solomons stipend of 666 talents (25 tons) of gold taken from the temple treasury every year, not to mention tributes, tolls and taxes bled from the population daily.

Its the same model Rome, the scarlet beast, based its corrupt religious/political system of mind control and perpetual fleecing of the befuddled population on.

and the same corrupt Temple worship theocracy that you can't wait to curse humanity with, again.

 

[HaShev]

The only bull is you had to avoid the whole post which clearly paints a very clear picture you are not willing to address, so you point out one selective portion to rant about in smokescreen technique to avoid the rest.
It's like pointing to the belt on the dress worn by the pink striped purple angry bull that walked into the fine china shop. Forget the belt, what is that weird painted bull doing in your fragile palace and why is he wearing a dress?
You always address and create the lamest missdirections=ad hominem techniques fool no-one of spiritual light, only others in darkness fall for the missdirections and use those techniques when they can't address or refute truth and rationalism..

 

[james bond]

Morning Star may refer to Lucifer, but it isn't Satan Lucifer.

Isaiah 14:12 - Bible Gateway

In this context, "Lucifer" means morning star. Jesus is the actual bright morning star and not the Satan Lucifer.

That said, I don't think you'll get it cause you're . A lot can happen when you're .

 

[hobelim]

The only bull is you had to avoid the whole post which clearly paints a very clear picture you are not willing to address, so you point out one selective portion to rant about in smokescreen technique to avoid the rest.
It's like pointing to the belt on the dress worn by the pink striped purple angry bull that walked into the fine china shop. Forget the belt, what is that weird painted bull doing in your fragile palace and why is he wearing a dress?
You always address and create the lamest missdirections=ad hominem techniques fool no-one of spiritual light, only others in darkness fall for the missdirections and use those techniques when they can't address or refute truth and rationalism..

Talk about lame misdirection!

Your whole post led to your false conclusion that 666= Jesus to which I replied:

Bullshit. the number 666 has nothing whatever to do with numerology or the name of Jesus.

The only other time the number 666, the number of the beast, a man, is mentioned in the entire Bible is in describing Solomons stipend of 666 talents (25 tons) of gold taken from the temple treasury every year, not to mention tributes, tolls and taxes bled from the population daily.

Its the same model Rome, the scarlet beast, based its corrupt religious/political system of mind control and perpetual fleecing of the befuddled population on.

and the same corrupt Temple worship theocracy that you can't wait to curse humanity with, again.



Why don't you try to address or refute this truth with rationalism?

Of all the people written about in scripture is Solomon the only man associated with the number 666 or not?

Do you not dream of reinstating Temple worship or not, slaughtering farm animals, throwing scraps to the poor and collecting money for your services, etc., in the exact same way that Solomon, the only named man clearly associated with the number 666, imposed upon the Jewish population?

I will tell you something. Try to hear.

By openly professing your dedication to such a thing shows that you have received the mark of the beast, like a giant black thumbprint, right smack in the middle of your forehead like a carefully crafted satanic phylactery.

 

[HaShev]

No it didn't, it's the opposite way around,
you don't know the number of his name till you secret the fathers name they avoid to utter. This means ypu literally spoke opposite=outright lied.
Proves my point you worship and do everything in reverse.
Including chronically on the time line reversing where Olam Habah is.

Jews read right to left for a reason, while you read left to right like you perceive a linear time line.
We do what we do, because world to come is at the end not the beginning and at that position that best knows where we went wrong, thus brings order to the chaos.
It requires working from that place which knows best thus right to left, not left (beginning history)to right(future history) lost failures working their way fumbling to the world to eventually come out of what Chaos? Chaos begetts chaos, you view and do everything opposite logic. You probably don't even get this, because you are so twisted in your thinking.

 

[hobelim]

You probably don't even get this, because you are so twisted in your thinking.

Oh I get it alright.





Of all the people written about in scripture is Solomon the only man named who is associated with the number 666 or not?


Do you or do you not dream of reinstating Temple worship, slaughtering farm animals, throwing scraps to the poor and collecting money for your services, etc., in the exact same way that Solomon, the only man clearly associated with the number 666, imposed Temple worship and subjugated the Jewish population with intolerable burdens according to the most superficial and ignorant literal interpretations of the written law??


You can answer by talking about Jewish people reading from right to left all you want but its not like people don't already know the truth to these simple questions already making it abundantly clear even to the most confused of your Jewish and Christian friends and neighbors exactly who is engaging in deliberate deception.

 

[Mudda]

Satan already won. Man is a fucking mean son of a bitch.

 

[HaShev]

Hobe you havn't addressed the 500 lb Baal in the room and your question was answered in 2-3 other topic posts.
I rest my case.
According to your own comments you are creating deceptions. But we already knew that by your smoke screening and repeating the same failed ad hominem tactics....this would make a good
Captain Obvious commercial.

Example of opposite man's beliefs:
We believe in Life, you believe in death.
We believe Moshiach serves mankind, you believe mankind should serve lucifer.
We believe you have to create the world to come paradise, you believe it already existed, so do nothing to create it then complain as to why you live in such a hell.
We believe in reading proper tenses, you believe in avoiding them thus Past plural tense is read singular future by our clan.
Third person tense is is read first person tense by your brethren who thus make their icon be the man he spoke of third person tense. World "TO COME" CLEARLY Means not yet here, not yet arrived, maybe you youself asked your parents during a trip "are we there yet" and they replied NO!
then why in the world would you confuse tenses and think that it already exists when you know you are far from there yet?
Answer: you are opposite man, king of the twists, aka adversary aka opposition
("Saw Tawn"ist)

 

[BreezeWood]

According to Revelations...after the battle of Armageddon - -

You must not have read this so I'll post it again.


that's the point, not everyone is convinced as written in that book the ending will be an armageddon especially written by those who do not understand why satan is dead.

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Wake up and smell the coffee. Satan is reeking havoc on earth every minute of every day. All suffering comes from Satan. God didn't destroy Sodom and Gomorrah, evil did. Satan became the embodiment of evil when he rebelled against God.

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Satan is reeking havoc on earth every minute of every day - -

is our existence the work of the Almighty or the responsibility of many including "your" satan ?


satan is dead ... from your other thread, do you believe the Almighty would allow satan to be included with the new Singularity - what evil that exists is self generated by the individual, account for your own actions that is what is necessary for attainment to the Everlasting.

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[foggedinn]

The Day of Atonement is playing itself out. It began two thousand years ago with the beheading of John and the crucifixion of Jesus. These are the bullock and the Lamb slain on the Day of Atonement. All that remains is the one to whom all sin is imputed, the scapegoat. When that man of sin is revealed, he will tell us the rest.
The church should be looking forward to it with eager anticipation and great joy. Instead, they fear it. The church stands ready to oppose, contend with and overcome a man sent from God.

 

[hobelim]

Hobe you havn't addressed the 500 lb Baal in the room and your question was answered in 2-3 other topic posts.
I rest my case.
According to your own comments you are creating deceptions. But we already knew that by your smoke screening and repeating the same failed ad hominem tactics....this would make a good
Captain Obvious commercial.

You watch entirely too much TV. Baal has nothing whatever to do with the name of Jesus in any form or language.

Your style of etymology amounts to saying that a therapist is really the-rapist or the word jewelry means that Jews worship Jew-Els.

You really should give it a rest.

Example of opposite man's beliefs:
We believe in Life, you believe in death.
We believe Moshiach serves mankind, you believe mankind should serve lucifer.
We believe you have to create the world to come paradise, you believe it already existed, so do nothing to create it then complain as to why you live in such a hell.
We believe in reading proper tenses, you believe in avoiding them thus Past plural tense is read singular future by our clan.
Third person tense is is read first person tense by your brethren who thus make their icon be the man he spoke of third person tense. World "TO COME" CLEARLY Means not yet here, not yet arrived, maybe you youself asked your parents during a trip "are we there yet" and they replied NO!
then why in the world would you confuse tenses and think that it already exists when you know you are far from there yet?

We again? Ugh.

I do not believe in death, I do not believe that mankind serves the Messiah. I do not worship Jesus or any Icon. Do you believe that there are no consequences to making false accusations against another person?

The world to come is the promised reward of the righteous, eternal life in the kingdom of God. Of course it is already in existence as surely as God already exists even if a person hasn't seen him and "is not there yet". In this world those who conform to the will of God as it was originally intended to be understood and applied as taught by Moses, and again by Jesus, enter that realm before they die and live life in all its fullness here and now on earth exactly as it is in heaven. Once a person enters the realm of God they will never know what it is to die.

The promise of life made to all those who master the law while still living in this world is a promise fulfilled in this world.. This who do not enter the kingdom of God or receive that life before they die physical deaths are judged according to their words and deeds.

If it is something that you think has yet to be created by your 'we' of believers you will never find a place in the world to come. Paradise is something impossible for man to create. In the same way that any man made material representation of God will always result in a false image, any man made attempt at creating a paradise on earth other than by aspiring to the one already in existence will always result in something false, somewhere east of Eden, no matter how fancy the Temple because a man made Temple is not the subject of the term "sanctuary of God"..

The promise for disobedience to the law is death. That you think that the law is about what to eat and what to wear and is about slaughtering animals in a man made Temple to create a paradise on earth that doesn't already exist clearly shows that you have your reward already.

 

[peach174]

Could God lose? If not, why is Satan even trying to win?

Satan knows he can't win.
His purpose is to get as much of mankind to not believe in God and taking away everlasting life.