Is criminal behavior determined by genetics

[Marion Morrison]

Bullshit. There are genius criminals trying to enslave us all.

Those criminals never go to jail.

There's a problem there..

A problem as old as civilization itself.

The question needs to be ask. Can we ever trust those who lead us? Or, do we even need to be led at all?

Sometimes we can. Yet power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Plato

Truth is where you find it. By the power of God, I know the truth.

 

[fncceo]

Bullshit. There are genius criminals trying to enslave us all.

Those criminals never go to jail.

There's a problem there..

A problem as old as civilization itself.

The question needs to be ask. Can we ever trust those who lead us? Or, do we even need to be led at all?

Sometimes we can. Yet power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Plato

'Star Trek'

 

[xband]

Those criminals never go to jail.

There's a problem there..

A problem as old as civilization itself.

The question needs to be ask. Can we ever trust those who lead us? Or, do we even need to be led at all?

Sometimes we can. Yet power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Plato

'Star Trek'

John Milton in Star Trek from Paradise Lost. Very few if any quote Plato from The Republic. Diogenes of Sinope was blind and carried a lantern in Athens searching for an Honest Man but never found a honest man.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Those criminals never go to jail.

There's a problem there..

A problem as old as civilization itself.

The question needs to be ask. Can we ever trust those who lead us? Or, do we even need to be led at all?

Sometimes we can. Yet power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Plato

'Star Trek'

Wtf?!

 

[Marion Morrison]

Before Star Trek, There was Plato and Socrates. True story.

Am I the uh..obsolete man?

 

[xband]

Before Star Trek, There was Plato and Socrates. True story.

Am I the uh..obsolete man?

Socrates was a student of Plato and so was Archimedes. Homer could have been a student of Plato and the time frame is right.

 

[fncceo]

There's a problem there..

A problem as old as civilization itself.

The question needs to be ask. Can we ever trust those who lead us? Or, do we even need to be led at all?

Sometimes we can. Yet power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Plato

'Star Trek'

Wtf?!

Always

 

[iamwhatiseem]

For as long as official statistics have been kept, blacks in white societies have been overrepresented in all indices of social pathology: crime, illegitimacy, poverty, school failure, and long-term unemployment. The conventional liberal explanation for this is white “racism,” past and present, which has forced blacks into self-destructive choices. More clear-headed observers, however, have sought a partial explanation in the low average IQ of blacks.

And of course we know....intelligence is determined by genes.

Intelligence genes discovered by scientists

Blacks are what they are because of the racist/short-sided social engineering of liberal social policies of the 1950's - 80's. PERIOD.
You collect up ANY group of people, pack them like sardines in housing projects away from the rest of society, give them just enough free stuff to sustain themselves without having to get a job..... and you would see the exact same behavior.
I don't care who person is, if they have nothing to do all day, surrounded by people with nothing to do all day - trouble is the only result.

 

[MacTheKnife]

For as long as official statistics have been kept, blacks in white societies have been overrepresented in all indices of social pathology: crime, illegitimacy, poverty, school failure, and long-term unemployment. The conventional liberal explanation for this is white “racism,” past and present, which has forced blacks into self-destructive choices. More clear-headed observers, however, have sought a partial explanation in the low average IQ of blacks.

And of course we know....intelligence is determined by genes.

Intelligence genes discovered by scientists

Blacks are what they are because of the racist/short-sided social engineering of liberal social policies of the 1950's - 80's. PERIOD.
You collect up ANY group of people, pack them like sardines in housing projects away from the rest of society, give them just enough free stuff to sustain themselves without having to get a job..... and you would see the exact same behavior.
I don't care who person is, if they have nothing to do all day, surrounded by people with nothing to do all day - trouble is the only result.

They exhibit the same behavior no matter where they are in the world.
Blacks in England commit crimes at nearly three times the rate of their population rate.

Now I have no doubt the liberal policies you describe are a disaster.

Yet you are in error to assert that all races would react the same way blacks do if they were in the same situation that blacks have been due to governmental policies.


Nicholas Wade on race and genetics

'Different races behave differently because they are genetically different and genetic differences give rise to differences in social institutions. Wade says that the genetic differences are small—so small that they are almost undetectable at the individual level—but that once a group has been nudged even slightly in a particular genetic direction it may be receptive to institutions that completely change the nature of society.'



Nicholas Wade Takes on the Regime - American Renaissance

 

[iamwhatiseem]

For as long as official statistics have been kept, blacks in white societies have been overrepresented in all indices of social pathology: crime, illegitimacy, poverty, school failure, and long-term unemployment. The conventional liberal explanation for this is white “racism,” past and present, which has forced blacks into self-destructive choices. More clear-headed observers, however, have sought a partial explanation in the low average IQ of blacks.

And of course we know....intelligence is determined by genes.

Intelligence genes discovered by scientists

Blacks are what they are because of the racist/short-sided social engineering of liberal social policies of the 1950's - 80's. PERIOD.
You collect up ANY group of people, pack them like sardines in housing projects away from the rest of society, give them just enough free stuff to sustain themselves without having to get a job..... and you would see the exact same behavior.
I don't care who person is, if they have nothing to do all day, surrounded by people with nothing to do all day - trouble is the only result.

They exhibit the same behavior no matter where they are in the world.
Blacks in England commit crimes at nearly three times the rate of their population rate.

Now I have no doubt the liberal policies you describe are a disaster.

Nicholas Wade Takes on the Regime - American Renaissance

That is not true.
Numerous studies have shown that when whites are in equal social upbringing, fatherless, poor, in inner city areas - they commit the same high % of crime. As well as when blacks are raised like most white people - has a father in their lives, middle class in more suburban neighborhoods - their crime rates/graduation rates/income is equal to whites.
It is not their skin color. It is a self-defeating culture of 70% born w/o a meaningful relationship with a father, mothers with addictions and supported by social programs that enable that life style.

 

[2aguy]

For as long as official statistics have been kept, blacks in white societies have been overrepresented in all indices of social pathology: crime, illegitimacy, poverty, school failure, and long-term unemployment. The conventional liberal explanation for this is white “racism,” past and present, which has forced blacks into self-destructive choices. More clear-headed observers, however, have sought a partial explanation in the low average IQ of blacks.

And of course we know....intelligence is determined by genes.

Intelligence genes discovered by scientists

Nope.......intact families help people become civilized.....it is the wave of fatherless homes, created by left wing policies in the 1960s that spiked the crime rates here in the U.S.....and are slowly turning Europe into a crap hole......

 

[MacTheKnife]

For as long as official statistics have been kept, blacks in white societies have been overrepresented in all indices of social pathology: crime, illegitimacy, poverty, school failure, and long-term unemployment. The conventional liberal explanation for this is white “racism,” past and present, which has forced blacks into self-destructive choices. More clear-headed observers, however, have sought a partial explanation in the low average IQ of blacks.

And of course we know....intelligence is determined by genes.

Intelligence genes discovered by scientists

Blacks are what they are because of the racist/short-sided social engineering of liberal social policies of the 1950's - 80's. PERIOD.
You collect up ANY group of people, pack them like sardines in housing projects away from the rest of society, give them just enough free stuff to sustain themselves without having to get a job..... and you would see the exact same behavior.
I don't care who person is, if they have nothing to do all day, surrounded by people with nothing to do all day - trouble is the only result.

They exhibit the same behavior no matter where they are in the world.
Blacks in England commit crimes at nearly three times the rate of their population rate.

Now I have no doubt the liberal policies you describe are a disaster.

Nicholas Wade Takes on the Regime - American Renaissance

That is not true.
Numerous studies have shown that when whites are in equal social upbringing, fatherless, poor, in inner city areas - they commit the same high % of crime. As well as when blacks are raised like most white people - has a father in their lives, middle class in more suburban neighborhoods - their crime rates/graduation rates/income is equal to whites.
It is not their skin color. It is a self-defeating culture of 70% born w/o a meaningful relationship with a father, mothers with addictions and supported by social programs that enable that life style.

Point us to one of these studies....got a link?

BTW no one said it was because of their skin color.

 

[2aguy]

For as long as official statistics have been kept, blacks in white societies have been overrepresented in all indices of social pathology: crime, illegitimacy, poverty, school failure, and long-term unemployment. The conventional liberal explanation for this is white “racism,” past and present, which has forced blacks into self-destructive choices. More clear-headed observers, however, have sought a partial explanation in the low average IQ of blacks.

And of course we know....intelligence is determined by genes.

Intelligence genes discovered by scientists

Blacks are what they are because of the racist/short-sided social engineering of liberal social policies of the 1950's - 80's. PERIOD.
You collect up ANY group of people, pack them like sardines in housing projects away from the rest of society, give them just enough free stuff to sustain themselves without having to get a job..... and you would see the exact same behavior.
I don't care who person is, if they have nothing to do all day, surrounded by people with nothing to do all day - trouble is the only result.

They exhibit the same behavior no matter where they are in the world.
Blacks in England commit crimes at nearly three times the rate of their population rate.

Now I have no doubt the liberal policies you describe are a disaster.

Yet you are in error to assert that all races would react the same way blacks do if they were in the same situation that blacks have been due to governmental policies.


Nicholas Wade on race and genetics

'Different races behave differently because they are genetically different and genetic differences give rise to differences in social institutions. Wade says that the genetic differences are small—so small that they are almost undetectable at the individual level—but that once a group has been nudged even slightly in a particular genetic direction it may be receptive to institutions that completely change the nature of society.'



Nicholas Wade Takes on the Regime - American Renaissance

Check out of wedlock birth rates by race.......Black out of wedlock birthrates are over 75% now.......White out of wedlock birthrates are nearing 50%........when you have 75% of your children raised without fathers...in homes controlled by single teenage girls trying to raise children from different males........that is how crime is created...

The racist crap is dumb..........and a distraction that the left wing wants to use to keep people from fixing the problem...

 

[2aguy]

For as long as official statistics have been kept, blacks in white societies have been overrepresented in all indices of social pathology: crime, illegitimacy, poverty, school failure, and long-term unemployment. The conventional liberal explanation for this is white “racism,” past and present, which has forced blacks into self-destructive choices. More clear-headed observers, however, have sought a partial explanation in the low average IQ of blacks.

And of course we know....intelligence is determined by genes.

Intelligence genes discovered by scientists

Blacks are what they are because of the racist/short-sided social engineering of liberal social policies of the 1950's - 80's. PERIOD.
You collect up ANY group of people, pack them like sardines in housing projects away from the rest of society, give them just enough free stuff to sustain themselves without having to get a job..... and you would see the exact same behavior.
I don't care who person is, if they have nothing to do all day, surrounded by people with nothing to do all day - trouble is the only result.

They exhibit the same behavior no matter where they are in the world.
Blacks in England commit crimes at nearly three times the rate of their population rate.

Now I have no doubt the liberal policies you describe are a disaster.

Yet you are in error to assert that all races would react the same way blacks do if they were in the same situation that blacks have been due to governmental policies.


Nicholas Wade on race and genetics

'Different races behave differently because they are genetically different and genetic differences give rise to differences in social institutions. Wade says that the genetic differences are small—so small that they are almost undetectable at the individual level—but that once a group has been nudged even slightly in a particular genetic direction it may be receptive to institutions that completely change the nature of society.'



Nicholas Wade Takes on the Regime - American Renaissance

Read the book "Life at the Bottom." This book details the destruction created by the British welfare state.....creating the fatherless homes in Britain that we began seeing here in the 1960s.........and they have the same results...

It isn't race.....it is broken homes....

 

[iamwhatiseem]

For as long as official statistics have been kept, blacks in white societies have been overrepresented in all indices of social pathology: crime, illegitimacy, poverty, school failure, and long-term unemployment. The conventional liberal explanation for this is white “racism,” past and present, which has forced blacks into self-destructive choices. More clear-headed observers, however, have sought a partial explanation in the low average IQ of blacks.

And of course we know....intelligence is determined by genes.

Intelligence genes discovered by scientists

Blacks are what they are because of the racist/short-sided social engineering of liberal social policies of the 1950's - 80's. PERIOD.
You collect up ANY group of people, pack them like sardines in housing projects away from the rest of society, give them just enough free stuff to sustain themselves without having to get a job..... and you would see the exact same behavior.
I don't care who person is, if they have nothing to do all day, surrounded by people with nothing to do all day - trouble is the only result.

They exhibit the same behavior no matter where they are in the world.
Blacks in England commit crimes at nearly three times the rate of their population rate.

Now I have no doubt the liberal policies you describe are a disaster.

Yet you are in error to assert that all races would react the same way blacks do if they were in the same situation that blacks have been due to governmental policies.


Nicholas Wade on race and genetics

'Different races behave differently because they are genetically different and genetic differences give rise to differences in social institutions. Wade says that the genetic differences are small—so small that they are almost undetectable at the individual level—but that once a group has been nudged even slightly in a particular genetic direction it may be receptive to institutions that completely change the nature of society.'



Nicholas Wade Takes on the Regime - American Renaissance

Check out of wedlock birth rates by race.......Black out of wedlock birthrates are over 75% now.......White out of wedlock birthrates are nearing 50%........when you have 75% of your children raised without fathers...in homes controlled by single teenage girls trying to raise children from different males........that is how crime is created...

The racist crap is dumb..........and a distraction that the left wing wants to use to keep people from fixing the problem...

But at the same time, until Democrats can see that their social engineering programs are only contributing to the problem - they will continue to patronize and enable the culture that is hamstringing ANY possibility blacks will improve their lot in life.

 

[2aguy]

For as long as official statistics have been kept, blacks in white societies have been overrepresented in all indices of social pathology: crime, illegitimacy, poverty, school failure, and long-term unemployment. The conventional liberal explanation for this is white “racism,” past and present, which has forced blacks into self-destructive choices. More clear-headed observers, however, have sought a partial explanation in the low average IQ of blacks.

And of course we know....intelligence is determined by genes.

Intelligence genes discovered by scientists

Blacks are what they are because of the racist/short-sided social engineering of liberal social policies of the 1950's - 80's. PERIOD.
You collect up ANY group of people, pack them like sardines in housing projects away from the rest of society, give them just enough free stuff to sustain themselves without having to get a job..... and you would see the exact same behavior.
I don't care who person is, if they have nothing to do all day, surrounded by people with nothing to do all day - trouble is the only result.

They exhibit the same behavior no matter where they are in the world.
Blacks in England commit crimes at nearly three times the rate of their population rate.

Now I have no doubt the liberal policies you describe are a disaster.

Nicholas Wade Takes on the Regime - American Renaissance

That is not true.
Numerous studies have shown that when whites are in equal social upbringing, fatherless, poor, in inner city areas - they commit the same high % of crime. As well as when blacks are raised like most white people - has a father in their lives, middle class in more suburban neighborhoods - their crime rates/graduation rates/income is equal to whites.
It is not their skin color. It is a self-defeating culture of 70% born w/o a meaningful relationship with a father, mothers with addictions and supported by social programs that enable that life style.

Point us to one of these studies....got a link?

BTW no one said it was because of their skin color.

Here ...a start...

Study: Crime rates linked to out-of-wedlock births

A study in the latest issue of The Journal of Law and Economics finds a link between out-of-wedlock births and rates of murder and other crimes.
-------

According to the study, in the years from 1965 to 2002, higher rates of out-of-wedlock births in a given year correlate with higher crime rates roughly 20 years later, when members of that birth cohort had become adults. The findings suggest that children born out of wedlock may receive lower educational and other resource investments from their parents, and may therefore be more likely to commit crimes as adults, say the study’s authors, economists Todd D. Kendall, of the consulting firm Compass Lexecon, and Robert Tamura of Clemson University.

 

[2aguy]

For as long as official statistics have been kept, blacks in white societies have been overrepresented in all indices of social pathology: crime, illegitimacy, poverty, school failure, and long-term unemployment. The conventional liberal explanation for this is white “racism,” past and present, which has forced blacks into self-destructive choices. More clear-headed observers, however, have sought a partial explanation in the low average IQ of blacks.

And of course we know....intelligence is determined by genes.

Intelligence genes discovered by scientists

Blacks are what they are because of the racist/short-sided social engineering of liberal social policies of the 1950's - 80's. PERIOD.
You collect up ANY group of people, pack them like sardines in housing projects away from the rest of society, give them just enough free stuff to sustain themselves without having to get a job..... and you would see the exact same behavior.
I don't care who person is, if they have nothing to do all day, surrounded by people with nothing to do all day - trouble is the only result.

They exhibit the same behavior no matter where they are in the world.
Blacks in England commit crimes at nearly three times the rate of their population rate.

Now I have no doubt the liberal policies you describe are a disaster.

Yet you are in error to assert that all races would react the same way blacks do if they were in the same situation that blacks have been due to governmental policies.


Nicholas Wade on race and genetics

'Different races behave differently because they are genetically different and genetic differences give rise to differences in social institutions. Wade says that the genetic differences are small—so small that they are almost undetectable at the individual level—but that once a group has been nudged even slightly in a particular genetic direction it may be receptive to institutions that completely change the nature of society.'



Nicholas Wade Takes on the Regime - American Renaissance

Check out of wedlock birth rates by race.......Black out of wedlock birthrates are over 75% now.......White out of wedlock birthrates are nearing 50%........when you have 75% of your children raised without fathers...in homes controlled by single teenage girls trying to raise children from different males........that is how crime is created...

The racist crap is dumb..........and a distraction that the left wing wants to use to keep people from fixing the problem...

But at the same time, until Democrats can see that their social engineering programs are only contributing to the problem - they will continue to patronize and enable the culture that is hamstringing ANY possibility blacks will improve their lot in life.

No....it works for them..........poor people work for the left wing.....they vote power to the democrats who use that power to enrich themselves.....

 

[MacTheKnife]

For as long as official statistics have been kept, blacks in white societies have been overrepresented in all indices of social pathology: crime, illegitimacy, poverty, school failure, and long-term unemployment. The conventional liberal explanation for this is white “racism,” past and present, which has forced blacks into self-destructive choices. More clear-headed observers, however, have sought a partial explanation in the low average IQ of blacks.

And of course we know....intelligence is determined by genes.

Intelligence genes discovered by scientists

Blacks are what they are because of the racist/short-sided social engineering of liberal social policies of the 1950's - 80's. PERIOD.
You collect up ANY group of people, pack them like sardines in housing projects away from the rest of society, give them just enough free stuff to sustain themselves without having to get a job..... and you would see the exact same behavior.
I don't care who person is, if they have nothing to do all day, surrounded by people with nothing to do all day - trouble is the only result.

They exhibit the same behavior no matter where they are in the world.
Blacks in England commit crimes at nearly three times the rate of their population rate.

Now I have no doubt the liberal policies you describe are a disaster.

Yet you are in error to assert that all races would react the same way blacks do if they were in the same situation that blacks have been due to governmental policies.


Nicholas Wade on race and genetics

'Different races behave differently because they are genetically different and genetic differences give rise to differences in social institutions. Wade says that the genetic differences are small—so small that they are almost undetectable at the individual level—but that once a group has been nudged even slightly in a particular genetic direction it may be receptive to institutions that completely change the nature of society.'



Nicholas Wade Takes on the Regime - American Renaissance

Check out of wedlock birth rates by race.......Black out of wedlock birthrates are over 75% now.......White out of wedlock birthrates are nearing 50%........when you have 75% of your children raised without fathers...in homes controlled by single teenage girls trying to raise children from different males........that is how crime is created...

The racist crap is dumb..........and a distraction that the left wing wants to use to keep people from fixing the problem...

Are you claiming that genetics is dumb?

Anyhow what you and all those articles are essentially saying is that poverty causes crime....which was debunked long ago.

Actually it is vice versa....crime causes poverty.

Huntley Haverstock, "Poverty Does Not Cause Crime" | Counter-Currents Publishing

 

[MacTheKnife]

For as long as official statistics have been kept, blacks in white societies have been overrepresented in all indices of social pathology: crime, illegitimacy, poverty, school failure, and long-term unemployment. The conventional liberal explanation for this is white “racism,” past and present, which has forced blacks into self-destructive choices. More clear-headed observers, however, have sought a partial explanation in the low average IQ of blacks.

And of course we know....intelligence is determined by genes.

Intelligence genes discovered by scientists

Blacks are what they are because of the racist/short-sided social engineering of liberal social policies of the 1950's - 80's. PERIOD.
You collect up ANY group of people, pack them like sardines in housing projects away from the rest of society, give them just enough free stuff to sustain themselves without having to get a job..... and you would see the exact same behavior.
I don't care who person is, if they have nothing to do all day, surrounded by people with nothing to do all day - trouble is the only result.

They exhibit the same behavior no matter where they are in the world.
Blacks in England commit crimes at nearly three times the rate of their population rate.

Now I have no doubt the liberal policies you describe are a disaster.

Nicholas Wade Takes on the Regime - American Renaissance

That is not true.
Numerous studies have shown that when whites are in equal social upbringing, fatherless, poor, in inner city areas - they commit the same high % of crime. As well as when blacks are raised like most white people - has a father in their lives, middle class in more suburban neighborhoods - their crime rates/graduation rates/income is equal to whites.
It is not their skin color. It is a self-defeating culture of 70% born w/o a meaningful relationship with a father, mothers with addictions and supported by social programs that enable that life style.

Point us to one of these studies....got a link?

BTW no one said it was because of their skin color.

Here ...a start...

Study: Crime rates linked to out-of-wedlock births

A study in the latest issue of The Journal of Law and Economics finds a link between out-of-wedlock births and rates of murder and other crimes.
-------

According to the study, in the years from 1965 to 2002, higher rates of out-of-wedlock births in a given year correlate with higher crime rates roughly 20 years later, when members of that birth cohort had become adults. The findings suggest that children born out of wedlock may receive lower educational and other resource investments from their parents, and may therefore be more likely to commit crimes as adults, say the study’s authors, economists Todd D. Kendall, of the consulting firm Compass Lexecon, and Robert Tamura of Clemson University.

What you are essentially claiming is that poverty produces crime....that has been debunked long ago....Poverty Doesn’t Cause Crime | National Review

 

[iamwhatiseem]

For as long as official statistics have been kept, blacks in white societies have been overrepresented in all indices of social pathology: crime, illegitimacy, poverty, school failure, and long-term unemployment. The conventional liberal explanation for this is white “racism,” past and present, which has forced blacks into self-destructive choices. More clear-headed observers, however, have sought a partial explanation in the low average IQ of blacks.

And of course we know....intelligence is determined by genes.

Intelligence genes discovered by scientists

Blacks are what they are because of the racist/short-sided social engineering of liberal social policies of the 1950's - 80's. PERIOD.
You collect up ANY group of people, pack them like sardines in housing projects away from the rest of society, give them just enough free stuff to sustain themselves without having to get a job..... and you would see the exact same behavior.
I don't care who person is, if they have nothing to do all day, surrounded by people with nothing to do all day - trouble is the only result.

They exhibit the same behavior no matter where they are in the world.
Blacks in England commit crimes at nearly three times the rate of their population rate.

Now I have no doubt the liberal policies you describe are a disaster.

Yet you are in error to assert that all races would react the same way blacks do if they were in the same situation that blacks have been due to governmental policies.


Nicholas Wade on race and genetics

'Different races behave differently because they are genetically different and genetic differences give rise to differences in social institutions. Wade says that the genetic differences are small—so small that they are almost undetectable at the individual level—but that once a group has been nudged even slightly in a particular genetic direction it may be receptive to institutions that completely change the nature of society.'



Nicholas Wade Takes on the Regime - American Renaissance

Check out of wedlock birth rates by race.......Black out of wedlock birthrates are over 75% now.......White out of wedlock birthrates are nearing 50%........when you have 75% of your children raised without fathers...in homes controlled by single teenage girls trying to raise children from different males........that is how crime is created...

The racist crap is dumb..........and a distraction that the left wing wants to use to keep people from fixing the problem...

Are you claiming that genetics is dumb?

No he is saying that your linked study does not include glaring socioeconomic and cultural differences that greatly effect behavior.
If I have time, I can try to find the studies. Which is very difficult to do (find any studies on blacks that are not drum beating "racism, racism, racism)