Is CA in a Death Spiral or in a Political Shift to the Right?

[Dschrute3]

Go with 'Death Spiral.' Californians are in for a dismal future.

 

[IsaacNewton]

The poor moving in, the middle class moving out and the Traditional leftist financial base is gone:

SCOTUS did away with the PSU scam of a fig leaf over patronage jobs.

The end to unlimited SALT deduction and skipping normal preventions of fires and floods by not spending money because of the Trump tax cut bill.

So, will the technical bankruptcy of robbing Peter and Paul cause default and a bail-out with teeth or will CA just collapse?

Jesus f'ing Christ you people just construct these weirdo batshit wet dreams in your head that have zero resemblance to reality and then you pass the conspiracy theory around to each other in your daily circle jerks. California has a budget surplus of billions of dollars more than the entire yearly budget of some red states.

You are just so used to living in shitholes you can't see through the shit.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

There is zero evidence California is moving to the right. As a matter of fact, it's the exact opposite.

 

[william the wie]

Good luck to all the state of CA retirees trying to find their pension teat in the future. Your past and present legislature folks just never seemed to get around to funding all those hundreds of millions yous guys thought you’d be depending on in your golden years. But, hey, the Hollyweirdos might make an interesting movie out of all your retirement sufferings. Hopefully one of those ensemble cast productions so all of your favorite lefty actors can earn another fat paycheck at your expense.

Calpers no doubt is an axe ready to fall, they just got a 67% reducton in their checks. They have shipping so ports are their ONLY strong point. If they get the resession based trade war Bill Mahr is hoping for THAT is gone.

They did have a strong point. For everything east of the mountains savings on fuel and delivery time make east coast harbors from Boston to Galvaston cheaper. mostly due to the topology

This will be the first year SALT takes full effect. As you may recall they were allowed to file early last year to avoid it. And all hell is going to break loose!

CA will see a gigantic fire season followed by an epic mudslide season. Then comes the bondholder lawsuits against the state and local politicians.

 

[westwall]

Good luck to all the state of CA retirees trying to find their pension teat in the future. Your past and present legislature folks just never seemed to get around to funding all those hundreds of millions yous guys thought you’d be depending on in your golden years. But, hey, the Hollyweirdos might make an interesting movie out of all your retirement sufferings. Hopefully one of those ensemble cast productions so all of your favorite lefty actors can earn another fat paycheck at your expense.

Calpers no doubt is an axe ready to fall, they just got a 67% reducton in their checks. They have shipping so ports are their ONLY strong point. If they get the resession based trade war Bill Mahr is hoping for THAT is gone.

The longshoreman have struck so many times that two super ports are being built to bypass CA. One in Canada, and one in Mexico. Both are currently operational and now when i drive to the Bay, or fly over I see very, very few ships when the place used to be humming. CA is screwed.

 

[william the wie]

There is zero evidence California is moving to the right. As a matter of fact, it's the exact opposite.

that's the reason for the death spiral alterative.

 

[Meister]

The current economic fair is we have a rainy day fund of some billions of dollars. The debt is being paired down every day. It is not easy fixing all the years of republican deficits. But Brown is getting it done.

Seriously? The democrats own the politics in Ca. That does include the debt....and no matter how much you spin it, your debt is growing every day.
Rainy day fund is a fairy tale. The only way you achieve that is through fuzzy math. But, thanks for putting a smile on my face and a good chuckle with your yarn.

 

[william the wie]

Good luck to all the state of CA retirees trying to find their pension teat in the future. Your past and present legislature folks just never seemed to get around to funding all those hundreds of millions yous guys thought you’d be depending on in your golden years. But, hey, the Hollyweirdos might make an interesting movie out of all your retirement sufferings. Hopefully one of those ensemble cast productions so all of your favorite lefty actors can earn another fat paycheck at your expense.

Calpers no doubt is an axe ready to fall, they just got a 67% reducton in their checks. They have shipping so ports are their ONLY strong point. If they get the resession based trade war Bill Mahr is hoping for THAT is gone.

The longshoreman have struck so many times that two super ports are being built to bypass CA. One in Canada, and one in Mexico. Both are currently operational and now when i drive to the Bay, or fly over I see very, very few ships when the place used to be humming. CA is screwed.

I wonder how that will work out with Panama canal improvement and east coast topology.

 

[BrokeLoser]

The poor moving in, the middle class moving out and the Traditional leftist financial base is gone:

SCOTUS did away with the PSU scam of a fig leaf over patronage jobs.

The end to unlimited SALT deduction and skipping normal preventions of fires and floods by not spending money because of the Trump tax cut bill.

So, will the technical bankruptcy of robbing Peter and Paul cause default and a bail-out with teeth or will CA just collapse?

Jesus f'ing Christ you people just construct these weirdo batshit wet dreams in your head that have zero resemblance to reality and then you pass the conspiracy theory around to each other in your daily circle jerks. California has a budget surplus of billions of dollars more than the entire yearly budget of some red states.

You are just so used to living in shitholes you can't see through the shit.

“Hypothetically speaking”
If a state ranked the highest in the union in poverty rate, ranked last in quality of life, was home to the most on welfare, the most homeless and the most illegal aliens would you consider it a super shithole?

 

[DarkFury]

The poor moving in, the middle class moving out and the Traditional leftist financial base is gone:

SCOTUS did away with the PSU scam of a fig leaf over patronage jobs.

The end to unlimited SALT deduction and skipping normal preventions of fires and floods by not spending money because of the Trump tax cut bill.

So, will the technical bankruptcy of robbing Peter and Paul cause default and a bail-out with teeth or will CA just collapse?

Jesus f'ing Christ you people just construct these weirdo batshit wet dreams in your head that have zero resemblance to reality and then you pass the conspiracy theory around to each other in your daily circle jerks. California has a budget surplus of billions of dollars more than the entire yearly budget of some red states.

You are just so used to living in shitholes you can't see through the shit.

“Hypothetically speaking”
If a state ranked the highest in the union in poverty rate, ranked last in quality of life, was home to the most on welfare, the most homeless and the most illegal aliens would you consider it a super shithole?

You toss in radicals and it's the Gaza strip of America.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

The poor moving in, the middle class moving out and the Traditional leftist financial base is gone:

SCOTUS did away with the PSU scam of a fig leaf over patronage jobs.

The end to unlimited SALT deduction and skipping normal preventions of fires and floods by not spending money because of the Trump tax cut bill.

So, will the technical bankruptcy of robbing Peter and Paul cause default and a bail-out with teeth or will CA just collapse?

How about BOTH. The State of California has successfully socialized the state so that in the end, there will only be two people: the super rich living behind iron gates and the very poor everywhere else. Then all the California snobs can ride around seeing only palm trees, swimming pools and luxurious homes for themselves and tell themselves what a success California has been as a model for the country.

A modern day India.

Caste in Stone

Familyism is even more primitive than tribalism. The HeirDads even protect their unearned future with the one-sided slogan "The sons should not suffer for the sins of the fathers." Their dumbed-down subjects have been made incapable of seeing that If HeirHeads are rewarded with what their father made, they must be punished for what he took. Independent men would tell them they can't have one without risking facing the other.

 

[BrokeLoser]

The poor moving in, the middle class moving out and the Traditional leftist financial base is gone:

SCOTUS did away with the PSU scam of a fig leaf over patronage jobs.

The end to unlimited SALT deduction and skipping normal preventions of fires and floods by not spending money because of the Trump tax cut bill.

So, will the technical bankruptcy of robbing Peter and Paul cause default and a bail-out with teeth or will CA just collapse?

Jesus f'ing Christ you people just construct these weirdo batshit wet dreams in your head that have zero resemblance to reality and then you pass the conspiracy theory around to each other in your daily circle jerks. California has a budget surplus of billions of dollars more than the entire yearly budget of some red states.

You are just so used to living in shitholes you can't see through the shit.

“Hypothetically speaking”
If a state ranked the highest in the union in poverty rate, ranked last in quality of life, was home to the most on welfare, the most homeless and the most illegal aliens would you consider it a super shithole?

You toss in radicals and it's the Gaza strip of America.

Someday I’ll produce a documentary called “Wetbacks Gone Wild”, featuring the Mexifornian illegals and how they cause the mass degradation they do.

 

[william the wie]

With all of this bad news plus out migration taking away the tax base the bond holders and retirees will be suing the state for decades.