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Is Bernie Sanders a socialist... or a communist?

Sanders is a...

  • Socialist.

    Votes: 3 9.1%
  • Communist.

    Votes: 30 90.9%

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Norman

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Is socialist Sanders a communist? Here is what NY post has to say.

"He’s not even a socialist. He’s a communist.

Mainstreaming Sanders requires whitewashing his radical pro-communist past. It won’t be easy to do.

Rewind to 1964.

While attending the University of Chicago, Sanders joined the Young People’s Socialist League, the youth wing of the Socialist Party USA. He also organized for a communist front, the United Packinghouse Workers Union, which at the time was under investigation by the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

After graduating with a political science degree, Sanders moved to Vermont, where he headed the American People’s History Society, an organ for Marxist propaganda. There, he produced a glowing documentary on the life of socialist revolutionary Eugene Debs, who was jailed for espionage during the Red Scare and hailed by the Bolsheviks as “America’s greatest Marxist.”

This subversive hero of Sanders, denounced even by liberal Democrats as a “traitor,” bashed “the barons of Wall Street” and hailed the “triumphant” Bolshevik revolution in Russia.

“Those Russian comrades of ours have made greater sacrifices, have suffered more, and have shed more heroic blood than any like number of men and women anywhere on Earth,” Debs proclaimed. “They have laid the foundation of the first real democracy that ever drew the breath of life in this world.”

Sanders still hangs a portrait of Debs on the wall in his Senate office.

In the early ’70s, Sanders helped found the Liberty Union Party, which called for the nationalization of all US banks and the public takeover of all private utility companies.

After failed runs for Congress, Sanders in 1981 managed to get elected mayor of Burlington, Vt., where he restricted property rights for landlords, set price controls and raised property taxes to pay for communal land trusts. Local small businesses distributed fliers complaining their new mayor “does not believe in free enterprise.”

Sanders took several “goodwill” trips not only to the USSR, but also to Cuba and Nicaragua, where the Soviets were trying to expand their influence in our hemisphere.

In 1985, he traveled to Managua to celebrate the rise to power of the Marxist-Leninist Sandinista government. He called it a “heroic revolution.” Undermining anti-communist US policy, Sanders denounced the Reagan administration’s backing of the Contra rebels in a letter to the Sandinistas.

Sanders also adopted a Soviet sister city outside Moscow and honeymooned with his second wife in the USSR. He put up a Soviet flag in his office, shocking even the Birkenstock-wearing local liberals. At the time, the Evil Empire was on the march around the world, and threatening the US with nuclear annihilation.

Then, in 1989, as the West was on the verge of winning the Cold War, Sanders addressed the national conference of the US Peace Council — a known front for the Communist Party USA, whose members swore an oath not only to the Soviet Union but to “the triumph of Soviet power in the US.”

Today, Sanders wants to bring what he admired in the USSR, Cuba, Nicaragua and other communist states to America.

For starters, he proposes completely nationalizing our health care system and putting private health insurance and drug companies “out of business.” He also wants to break up “big banks” and control the energy industry, while providing “free” college tuition, a “living wage” and guaranteed homeownership and jobs through massive public works projects. Price tag: $18 trillion.

What about those communist sister cities he adopted? “Bernie established them to support people-to-people exchanges which might support peace in the long run,” said Bruce Seifer, who was one of Sanders’ central economic planners directing Burlington businesses to “reinvest their profits in the community.”

In an interview, Seifer claimed that it was “no different than President Nixon opening relations with China.”

Please. Sanders and his Sanderistas are all still pining for what Debs called “the Greater Revolution yet to come.”

https://nypost.com/2016/01/16/dont-be-fooled-by-bernie-sanders-hes-a-diehard-communist/
 
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Neither. "Democratic Socialist". I know y'all wish that qualifier weren't there, but it always has been.
 

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Is Bernie Sanders a socialist... or a communist?
Worse, he's a phony. He lectures others on climate change and wealth, while flying around on private jets and becoming a millionaire who owns 3 houses.
 
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Neither. "Democratic Socialist". I know y'all wish that qualifier weren't there, but it always has been.
So how much better is it with the prefix added in?

Last time Hitler added "national" in front of socialist, things did not turn out well.

Democratic socialist is still a socialist so your reply added nothing.
 
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Is socialist Sanders a communist? Here is what NY post has to say.

"He’s not even a socialist. He’s a communist.

Mainstreaming Sanders requires whitewashing his radical pro-communist past. It won’t be easy to do.

Rewind to 1964.

While attending the University of Chicago, Sanders joined the Young People’s Socialist League, the youth wing of the Socialist Party USA. He also organized for a communist front, the United Packinghouse Workers Union, which at the time was under investigation by the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

After graduating with a political science degree, Sanders moved to Vermont, where he headed the American People’s History Society, an organ for Marxist propaganda. There, he produced a glowing documentary on the life of socialist revolutionary Eugene Debs, who was jailed for espionage during the Red Scare and hailed by the Bolsheviks as “America’s greatest Marxist.”

This subversive hero of Sanders, denounced even by liberal Democrats as a “traitor,” bashed “the barons of Wall Street” and hailed the “triumphant” Bolshevik revolution in Russia.


“Those Russian comrades of ours have made greater sacrifices, have suffered more, and have shed more heroic blood than any like number of men and women anywhere on Earth,” Debs proclaimed. “They have laid the foundation of the first real democracy that ever drew the breath of life in this world.”

Sanders still hangs a portrait of Debs on the wall in his Senate office.

In the early ’70s, Sanders helped found the Liberty Union Party, which called for the nationalization of all US banks and the public takeover of all private utility companies.


After failed runs for Congress, Sanders in 1981 managed to get elected mayor of Burlington, Vt., where he restricted property rights for landlords, set price controls and raised property taxes to pay for communal land trusts. Local small businesses distributed fliers complaining their new mayor “does not believe in free enterprise.”

Sanders took several “goodwill” trips not only to the USSR, but also to Cuba and Nicaragua, where the Soviets were trying to expand their influence in our hemisphere.

In 1985, he traveled to Managua to celebrate the rise to power of the Marxist-Leninist Sandinista government. He called it a “heroic revolution.” Undermining anti-communist US policy, Sanders denounced the Reagan administration’s backing of the Contra rebels in a letter to the Sandinistas.

Sanders also adopted a Soviet sister city outside Moscow and honeymooned with his second wife in the USSR. He put up a Soviet flag in his office, shocking even the Birkenstock-wearing local liberals. At the time, the Evil Empire was on the march around the world, and threatening the US with nuclear annihilation.

Then, in 1989, as the West was on the verge of winning the Cold War, Sanders addressed the national conference of the US Peace Council — a known front for the Communist Party USA, whose members swore an oath not only to the Soviet Union but to “the triumph of Soviet power in the US.”

Today, Sanders wants to bring what he admired in the USSR, Cuba, Nicaragua and other communist states to America.

For starters, he proposes completely nationalizing our health care system and putting private health insurance and drug companies “out of business.” He also wants to break up “big banks” and control the energy industry, while providing “free” college tuition, a “living wage” and guaranteed homeownership and jobs through massive public works projects. Price tag: $18 trillion.

What about those communist sister cities he adopted? “Bernie established them to support people-to-people exchanges which might support peace in the long run,” said Bruce Seifer, who was one of Sanders’ central economic planners directing Burlington businesses to “reinvest their profits in the community.”

In an interview, Seifer claimed that it was “no different than President Nixon opening relations with China.”

Please. Sanders and his Sanderistas are all still pining for what Debs called “the Greater Revolution yet to come.”

https://nypost.com/2016/01/16/dont-be-fooled-by-bernie-sanders-hes-a-diehard-communist/
Who cares?

His goal is to destroy our great country and he has no chance of winning the Democrat nomination much less win the presidential election. NONE whatsoever!
 

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Where is the option for hypocrite? Owns three homes, has always been a Govt employee, vilifies the private sector of which he knows very little about. True “winner”.
 

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He's a Marxist. That pretty much covers both socialist, communist and all forms in between: Anarcho-socialism, Utopian socialism, State-Communism, Democratic-socialism, Social Democratic-socialism, Libertarian-socialism, Christian-socialism, and Market-communism.
 
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Bernie thinks he just a Socialist, but people don't give up their stuff and descend into poverty without a fight---so a Socialist who gains power learns quickly that he needs FORCE to accomplish his ends. And he turns authoritarian--like "The Bern's" followers already are---Bolsheviks.

Socialism is not new. You can say it goes at least back to ancient Greece.

And, it has always failed, because of human nature and because there is a natural INequality in Ability and also Motivation.

Freedom and Equality are not partners. If you give a motivated person the freedom to fulfill his destiny he will always be more successful than the ones who will sit on the porch and wait for their Fee Shit. Human Nature at work.

What Socialism has going for it is that young people don't know its history, and lazy dumb-asses don't care. They just want their Free Shit.
 

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Is socialist Sanders a communist? Here is what NY post has to say.

"He’s not even a socialist. He’s a communist.

Mainstreaming Sanders requires whitewashing his radical pro-communist past. It won’t be easy to do.

Rewind to 1964.

While attending the University of Chicago, Sanders joined the Young People’s Socialist League, the youth wing of the Socialist Party USA. He also organized for a communist front, the United Packinghouse Workers Union, which at the time was under investigation by the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

After graduating with a political science degree, Sanders moved to Vermont, where he headed the American People’s History Society, an organ for Marxist propaganda. There, he produced a glowing documentary on the life of socialist revolutionary Eugene Debs, who was jailed for espionage during the Red Scare and hailed by the Bolsheviks as “America’s greatest Marxist.”

This subversive hero of Sanders, denounced even by liberal Democrats as a “traitor,” bashed “the barons of Wall Street” and hailed the “triumphant” Bolshevik revolution in Russia.

“Those Russian comrades of ours have made greater sacrifices, have suffered more, and have shed more heroic blood than any like number of men and women anywhere on Earth,” Debs proclaimed. “They have laid the foundation of the first real democracy that ever drew the breath of life in this world.”

Sanders still hangs a portrait of Debs on the wall in his Senate office.

In the early ’70s, Sanders helped found the Liberty Union Party, which called for the nationalization of all US banks and the public takeover of all private utility companies.

After failed runs for Congress, Sanders in 1981 managed to get elected mayor of Burlington, Vt., where he restricted property rights for landlords, set price controls and raised property taxes to pay for communal land trusts. Local small businesses distributed fliers complaining their new mayor “does not believe in free enterprise.”

Sanders took several “goodwill” trips not only to the USSR, but also to Cuba and Nicaragua, where the Soviets were trying to expand their influence in our hemisphere.

In 1985, he traveled to Managua to celebrate the rise to power of the Marxist-Leninist Sandinista government. He called it a “heroic revolution.” Undermining anti-communist US policy, Sanders denounced the Reagan administration’s backing of the Contra rebels in a letter to the Sandinistas.

Sanders also adopted a Soviet sister city outside Moscow and honeymooned with his second wife in the USSR. He put up a Soviet flag in his office, shocking even the Birkenstock-wearing local liberals. At the time, the Evil Empire was on the march around the world, and threatening the US with nuclear annihilation.

Then, in 1989, as the West was on the verge of winning the Cold War, Sanders addressed the national conference of the US Peace Council — a known front for the Communist Party USA, whose members swore an oath not only to the Soviet Union but to “the triumph of Soviet power in the US.”

Today, Sanders wants to bring what he admired in the USSR, Cuba, Nicaragua and other communist states to America.

For starters, he proposes completely nationalizing our health care system and putting private health insurance and drug companies “out of business.” He also wants to break up “big banks” and control the energy industry, while providing “free” college tuition, a “living wage” and guaranteed homeownership and jobs through massive public works projects. Price tag: $18 trillion.

What about those communist sister cities he adopted? “Bernie established them to support people-to-people exchanges which might support peace in the long run,” said Bruce Seifer, who was one of Sanders’ central economic planners directing Burlington businesses to “reinvest their profits in the community.”

In an interview, Seifer claimed that it was “no different than President Nixon opening relations with China.”

Please. Sanders and his Sanderistas are all still pining for what Debs called “the Greater Revolution yet to come.”

https://nypost.com/2016/01/16/dont-be-fooled-by-bernie-sanders-hes-a-diehard-communist/
I believe he's actually BOTH and not fit to be president.
 

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Neither. "Democratic Socialist". I know y'all wish that qualifier weren't there, but it always has been.
Making up a new political party
"Democratic-Socialism" is a way of sugar coating a cyanide pill.
Translation: you don't like somebody else's self-description so you take it upon yourself to change it for him.'

How fascistic of you.

"Don't tell me what you think --- *I* will tell you what you think!" SMH
 

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Neither. "Democratic Socialist". I know y'all wish that qualifier weren't there, but it always has been.
Making up a new political party
"Democratic-Socialism" is a way of sugar coating a cyanide pill.
Translation: you don't like somebody else's self-description so you take it upon yourself to change it for him.'

How fascistic of you.

"Don't tell me what you think --- *I* will tell you what you think!" SMH
I changed nothing. I merely clarified their description.

Once again, "Democratic-Socialism" is a way of sugar coating a cyanide pill.
 

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Neither. "Democratic Socialist". I know y'all wish that qualifier weren't there, but it always has been.
Making up a new political party
"Democratic-Socialism" is a way of sugar coating a cyanide pill.
Translation: you don't like somebody else's self-description so you take it upon yourself to change it for him.'

How fascistic of you.

"Don't tell me what you think --- *I* will tell you what you think!" SMH
I changed nothing. I merely clarified their description.

Once again, "Democratic-Socialism" is a way of sugar coating a cyanide pill.
Objection overruled. Translation stands.

I am the president of Asia. Your argument is invalid.
 

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IT WILL BE PAID BY TAX PAYERS, donald.
Tax payers do not pay tariffs.
When the taxpayers buy goods that has the tariff taxes added to a price increase by the distributors and retailers, they are paying for the tariffs.
It’s just that simple.

Weird how democrats have no concerns with how much prices will increase by raising minimum wage to $15-20.
Neither. "Democratic Socialist". I know y'all wish that qualifier weren't there, but it always has been.
So how much better is it with the prefix added in?

Last time Hitler added "national" in front of socialist, things did not turn out well.

Democratic socialist is still a socialist so your reply added nothing.
The uniformed.
Hitler was pro- business, anti-union and he either killed or confined socialist to concentration camps. Those are facts.
Hitler inserted “Socialist” in the National German Socialist Workers’ Party early on to get the backing of the labor unions, which he outlawed later after his regime gained total power.
Also, Hitler was a Fascist.
 

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IT WILL BE PAID BY TAX PAYERS, donald.
Tax payers do not pay tariffs.
When the taxpayers buy goods that has the tariff taxes added to a price increase by the distributors and retailers, they are paying for the tariffs.
It’s just that simple.

Weird how democrats have no concerns with how much prices will increase by raising minimum wage to $15-20.
Neither. "Democratic Socialist". I know y'all wish that qualifier weren't there, but it always has been.
So how much better is it with the prefix added in?

Last time Hitler added "national" in front of socialist, things did not turn out well.

Democratic socialist is still a socialist so your reply added nothing.
The uniformed.
Hitler was pro- business, anti-union and he either killed or confined socialists to concentration camps. Those are facts.
Hitler inserted “Socialist” in the National German Socialist Workers’ Party early on to get the backing of the labor unions, which he outlawed later after his regime gained total power.
Also, Hitler was a Fascist.
Actually the term "Socialist", a trendy marketing term at the time, was already in the name of the party when Hitler joined it. He objected to it but went along for, as you said, its marketing power. And then he organized the "Brownshirts" to attack and intimidate the actual Socialists, and made them the first "guests" at Dachau, while declaring their political party illegal.
 

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