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Is Bernie Sanders a socialist... or a communist?

Sanders is a...

  • Socialist.

    Votes: 3 9.1%
  • Communist.

    Votes: 30 90.9%

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Neither. "Democratic Socialist". I know y'all wish that qualifier weren't there, but it always has been.
So how much better is it with the prefix added in?

Last time Hitler added "national" in front of socialist, things did not turn out well.

Democratic socialist is still a socialist so your reply added nothing.
Because Democratic Socialism is different from just Socialism,Communism,National Socialism etc.
 
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Neither. "Democratic Socialist". I know y'all wish that qualifier weren't there, but it always has been.
So how much better is it with the prefix added in?

Last time Hitler added "national" in front of socialist, things did not turn out well.

Democratic socialist is still a socialist so your reply added nothing.
Because Democratic Socialism is different from just Socialism,Communism,National Socialism etc.
From an American perspective there is barely any difference. All the same authoritarian freedom hating shit.

Democratic socialism is a far left totalitarian ideology that advocates government should control basically all property. In practice, yes there will be death camps, gulags and guillotines, as people refuse to comply with the inferior anti-American system. Just as advertised by Bernie staffers.
 

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Neither. "Democratic Socialist". I know y'all wish that qualifier weren't there, but it always has been.
So how much better is it with the prefix added in?

Last time Hitler added "national" in front of socialist, things did not turn out well.

Democratic socialist is still a socialist so your reply added nothing.
Because Democratic Socialism is different from just Socialism,Communism,National Socialism etc.
From an American perspective there is barely any difference. All the same authoritarian freedom hating shit.

Democratic socialism is a far left totalitarian ideology that advocates government should control basically all property. In practice, yes there will be death camps, gulags and guillotines, as people refuse to comply with the inferior anti-American system. Just as advertised by Bernie staffers.
Democratic socialism - Wikipedia

You are WAY off. Oh and if you consider DS authoritarian then you must realize the Oligarchy we have is the same damn thing.
 

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Neither. "Democratic Socialist". I know y'all wish that qualifier weren't there, but it always has been.

The "qualifier," doesn't mean anything once you put "socialist" on the end of it.....you dope......
 

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Socialism is Communism without the meth lab.

As the saying goes....communism is socialism in a hurry...

As Ann Coulter put it..."Communists are socialists who really mean it...."
 
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Neither. "Democratic Socialist". I know y'all wish that qualifier weren't there, but it always has been.
So how much better is it with the prefix added in?

Last time Hitler added "national" in front of socialist, things did not turn out well.

Democratic socialist is still a socialist so your reply added nothing.
Because Democratic Socialism is different from just Socialism,Communism,National Socialism etc.
From an American perspective there is barely any difference. All the same authoritarian freedom hating shit.

Democratic socialism is a far left totalitarian ideology that advocates government should control basically all property. In practice, yes there will be death camps, gulags and guillotines, as people refuse to comply with the inferior anti-American system. Just as advertised by Bernie staffers.
Democratic socialism - Wikipedia

You are WAY off. Oh and if you consider DS authoritarian then you must realize the Oligarchy we have is the same damn thing.
I am way off, yet here is the very first sentence from the article.

"Democratic socialism is a political philosophy supporting political democracy within a socially owned economy,"

Socially owned = government owned economy.

You fool. It's basically communism. 100% anti-American.
 

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Neither. "Democratic Socialist". I know y'all wish that qualifier weren't there, but it always has been.
A distinction without a difference.
Sorry Revisionistas, words mean things and adjectives have functions.

Let's take a common phrase used on this board, since Hitler was brought in irrelevantly --- "Grammar Nazi".

Now what would "Grammar Nazi" mean? By y'all's logic it must mean somebody who will march you off to a concentration camp or gas chamber for misusing a semicolon. Either that or somebody who wants to grammatically annex Poland.

That what it means?
Dissemble and deflect all you want, the rhetorical fallacy remains, it is a distinction without a difference. Laying a wispy gauze over it changes nothing.
 

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BERNARD should be our preferred candidate.

WHY?

Because his supporters are incompetent, irrelevant, and immaterial!

You know what they really have?

The USSR and BERNARD, lol. If that is a winner and we can't defeat such bullsh**, then we deserve to lose!
 
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BERNARD should be our preferred candidate.

WHY?

Because his supporters are incompetent, irrelevant, and immaterial!

You know what they really have?

The USSR and BERNARD, lol. If that is a winner and we can't defeat such bullsh**, then we deserve to lose!
The democrats seem to be incapable of defeating the old communist.
 

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Neither. "Democratic Socialist". I know y'all wish that qualifier weren't there, but it always has been.
So how much better is it with the prefix added in?

Last time Hitler added "national" in front of socialist, things did not turn out well.

Democratic socialist is still a socialist so your reply added nothing.
Because Democratic Socialism is different from just Socialism,Communism,National Socialism etc.
From an American perspective there is barely any difference. All the same authoritarian freedom hating shit.

Democratic socialism is a far left totalitarian ideology that advocates government should control basically all property. In practice, yes there will be death camps, gulags and guillotines, as people refuse to comply with the inferior anti-American system. Just as advertised by Bernie staffers.
Democratic socialism - Wikipedia

You are WAY off. Oh and if you consider DS authoritarian then you must realize the Oligarchy we have is the same damn thing.
I am way off, yet here is the very first sentence from the article.

"Democratic socialism is a political philosophy supporting political democracy within a socially owned economy,"

Socially owned = government owned economy.

You fool. It's basically communism. 100% anti-American.
Socially owned is the PEOPLE run it. Not the government.
 

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BERNARD should be our preferred candidate.

WHY?

Because his supporters are incompetent, irrelevant, and immaterial!

You know what they really have?

The USSR and BERNARD, lol. If that is a winner and we can't defeat such bullsh**, then we deserve to lose!
The democrats seem to be incapable of defeating the old communist.

The apples don't fall to far from the tree my friend.

Can they stop BERNARD?

ANSWER=50-50!

The real question is-------------->how far off the reservation is this primary, when their whole project, is to STOP their delegate LEADER?

We are at a point in time to LAUGH their incompetence off this board, we really are.

That doesn't mean they have lost; what it means is--------------->as of now, they are the LAUGHINSTOCK of world politics. Let us keep it that way-)
 
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So how much better is it with the prefix added in?

Last time Hitler added "national" in front of socialist, things did not turn out well.

Democratic socialist is still a socialist so your reply added nothing.
Because Democratic Socialism is different from just Socialism,Communism,National Socialism etc.
From an American perspective there is barely any difference. All the same authoritarian freedom hating shit.

Democratic socialism is a far left totalitarian ideology that advocates government should control basically all property. In practice, yes there will be death camps, gulags and guillotines, as people refuse to comply with the inferior anti-American system. Just as advertised by Bernie staffers.
Democratic socialism - Wikipedia

You are WAY off. Oh and if you consider DS authoritarian then you must realize the Oligarchy we have is the same damn thing.
I am way off, yet here is the very first sentence from the article.

"Democratic socialism is a political philosophy supporting political democracy within a socially owned economy,"

Socially owned = government owned economy.

You fool. It's basically communism. 100% anti-American.
Socially owned is the PEOPLE run it. Not the government.
That's fucking retarded. Who do you think runs means of production under any system.

It's the people you moron, not many apes running things.

"Democratic socialists argue that capitalism is inherently incompatible with the values of freedom, equality and solidarity and that these ideals can only be achieved through the realisation of a socialist society"

We made it to the second sentence. Sounds real American, not a bit socialist. Shall I go on reading your link?
 

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Because Democratic Socialism is different from just Socialism,Communism,National Socialism etc.
From an American perspective there is barely any difference. All the same authoritarian freedom hating shit.

Democratic socialism is a far left totalitarian ideology that advocates government should control basically all property. In practice, yes there will be death camps, gulags and guillotines, as people refuse to comply with the inferior anti-American system. Just as advertised by Bernie staffers.
Democratic socialism - Wikipedia

You are WAY off. Oh and if you consider DS authoritarian then you must realize the Oligarchy we have is the same damn thing.
I am way off, yet here is the very first sentence from the article.

"Democratic socialism is a political philosophy supporting political democracy within a socially owned economy,"

Socially owned = government owned economy.

You fool. It's basically communism. 100% anti-American.
Socially owned is the PEOPLE run it. Not the government.
That's fucking retarded. Who do you think runs means of production under any system.

It's the people you moron, not many apes running things.

"Democratic socialists argue that capitalism is inherently incompatible with the values of freedom, equality and solidarity and that these ideals can only be achieved through the realisation of a socialist society"

We made it to the second sentence. Sounds real American, not a bit socialist. Shall I go on reading your link?
Sounds better than Crapitalism where the rich get richer and the worker gets the shaft while he is employed making shit wages and then gets the shaft even harder when he is forced to train his foreign replacement OR his job is sent overseas sending him to the welfare line but yall keep bowing down at the altar of Crapitalism.
 
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"Although most democratic socialists seek a gradual transition to socialism,[5] democratic socialism can support either revolutionary or reformist politics as means to establish socialism."

So which camp does Bernie belong in? His staffers are obviously the revolutionary type, but he has not made it clear yet.
 
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From an American perspective there is barely any difference. All the same authoritarian freedom hating shit.

Democratic socialism is a far left totalitarian ideology that advocates government should control basically all property. In practice, yes there will be death camps, gulags and guillotines, as people refuse to comply with the inferior anti-American system. Just as advertised by Bernie staffers.
Democratic socialism - Wikipedia

You are WAY off. Oh and if you consider DS authoritarian then you must realize the Oligarchy we have is the same damn thing.
I am way off, yet here is the very first sentence from the article.

"Democratic socialism is a political philosophy supporting political democracy within a socially owned economy,"

Socially owned = government owned economy.

You fool. It's basically communism. 100% anti-American.
Socially owned is the PEOPLE run it. Not the government.
That's fucking retarded. Who do you think runs means of production under any system.

It's the people you moron, not many apes running things.

"Democratic socialists argue that capitalism is inherently incompatible with the values of freedom, equality and solidarity and that these ideals can only be achieved through the realisation of a socialist society"

We made it to the second sentence. Sounds real American, not a bit socialist. Shall I go on reading your link?
Sounds better than Crapitalism where the rich get richer and the worker gets the shaft while he is employed making shit wages and then gets the shaft even harder when he is forced to train his foreign replacement OR his job is sent overseas sending him to the welfare line but yall keep bowing down at the altar of Crapitalism.
Sounds like you need to get the fuck out of America, moocher.
 

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Neither. "Democratic Socialist". I know y'all wish that qualifier weren't there, but it always has been.
Making up a new political party
"Democratic-Socialism" is a way of sugar coating a cyanide pill.
Translation: you don't like somebody else's self-description so you take it upon yourself to change it for him.'

How fascistic of you.

"Don't tell me what you think --- *I* will tell you what you think!" SMH
I changed nothing. I merely clarified their description.

Once again, "Democratic-Socialism" is a way of sugar coating a cyanide pill.
The qualifier is meaningless....You can say "chocolate covered" before "dog turd" and that doesn't change a lump of shit into a Snickers bar.
 

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Democratic socialism - Wikipedia

You are WAY off. Oh and if you consider DS authoritarian then you must realize the Oligarchy we have is the same damn thing.
I am way off, yet here is the very first sentence from the article.

"Democratic socialism is a political philosophy supporting political democracy within a socially owned economy,"

Socially owned = government owned economy.

You fool. It's basically communism. 100% anti-American.
Socially owned is the PEOPLE run it. Not the government.
That's fucking retarded. Who do you think runs means of production under any system.

It's the people you moron, not many apes running things.

"Democratic socialists argue that capitalism is inherently incompatible with the values of freedom, equality and solidarity and that these ideals can only be achieved through the realisation of a socialist society"

We made it to the second sentence. Sounds real American, not a bit socialist. Shall I go on reading your link?
Sounds better than Crapitalism where the rich get richer and the worker gets the shaft while he is employed making shit wages and then gets the shaft even harder when he is forced to train his foreign replacement OR his job is sent overseas sending him to the welfare line but yall keep bowing down at the altar of Crapitalism.
Sounds like you need to get the fuck out of America, moocher.
Ah yes there is that compassion CONservatives have for people who simply want a good paying job to take care of their families. Fuck them that's right! Its the republicunt way! Demoncrat way as well!
 
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I am way off, yet here is the very first sentence from the article.

"Democratic socialism is a political philosophy supporting political democracy within a socially owned economy,"

Socially owned = government owned economy.

You fool. It's basically communism. 100% anti-American.
Socially owned is the PEOPLE run it. Not the government.
That's fucking retarded. Who do you think runs means of production under any system.

It's the people you moron, not many apes running things.

"Democratic socialists argue that capitalism is inherently incompatible with the values of freedom, equality and solidarity and that these ideals can only be achieved through the realisation of a socialist society"

We made it to the second sentence. Sounds real American, not a bit socialist. Shall I go on reading your link?
Sounds better than Crapitalism where the rich get richer and the worker gets the shaft while he is employed making shit wages and then gets the shaft even harder when he is forced to train his foreign replacement OR his job is sent overseas sending him to the welfare line but yall keep bowing down at the altar of Crapitalism.
Sounds like you need to get the fuck out of America, moocher.
Ah yes there is that compassion CONservatives have for people who simply want a good paying job to take care of their families. Fuck them that's right! Its the republicunt way! Demoncrat way as well!
You don't simply want to do that. You want to other people's money to do that, moocher.

That being said, agree about the immigration. Sander is an open borders socialist.
 

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