Is Bernie Sanders a socialist... or a communist?

[Markle]

Actually the term "Socialist", a trendy marketing term at the time, was already in the name of the party when Hitler joined it. He objected to it but went along for, as you said, its marketing power. And then he organized the "Brownshirts" to attack and intimidate the actual Socialists, and made them the first "guests" at Dachau, while declaring their political party illegal.

Hitler's Economics

• 

10/27/2018Llewellyn H. Rockwell Jr.
[Originally published August 02, 2003.]

[...]
What were those economic policies? He suspended the gold standard, embarked on huge public-works programs like autobahns, protected industry from foreign competition, expanded credit, instituted jobs programs, bullied the private sector on prices and production decisions, vastly expanded the military, enforced capital controls, instituted family planning, penalized smoking, brought about national healthcare and unemployment insurance, imposed education standards, and eventually ran huge deficits. The Nazi interventionist program was essential to the regime's rejection of the market economy and its embrace of socialism in one country.
[my highlight]

Hitler's Economics | Llewellyn H. Rockwell Jr.

 

[Norman]

Actually the term "Socialist", a trendy marketing term at the time, was already in the name of the party when Hitler joined it. He objected to it but went along for, as you said, its marketing power. And then he organized the "Brownshirts" to attack and intimidate the actual Socialists, and made them the first "guests" at Dachau, while declaring their political party illegal.

Hitler's Economics

• 

10/27/2018Llewellyn H. Rockwell Jr.
[Originally published August 02, 2003.]

[...]
What were those economic policies? He suspended the gold standard, embarked on huge public-works programs like autobahns, protected industry from foreign competition, expanded credit, instituted jobs programs, bullied the private sector on prices and production decisions, vastly expanded the military, enforced capital controls, instituted family planning, penalized smoking, brought about national healthcare and unemployment insurance, imposed education standards, and eventually ran huge deficits. The Nazi interventionist program was essential to the regime's rejection of the market economy and its embrace of socialism in one country.
[my highlight]

Hitler's Economics | Llewellyn H. Rockwell Jr.

No matter what you put in front of the word socialist, you end up with a turd.

Democratic socialism is defined as having a socialist economy in which the means of production are socially and collectively owned or controlled, alongside a democratic political system of government. Democratic socialism rejects self-described socialist states just as it rejects Marxism–Leninism.

 

[JWBooth]

Neither. "Democratic Socialist". I know y'all wish that qualifier weren't there, but it always has been.

A distinction without a difference.

 

[Norman]

Neither. "Democratic Socialist". I know y'all wish that qualifier weren't there, but it always has been.

A distinction without a difference.

"It wasn't real socialism".

Take #9645242131242315695...

 

[Norman]

Bernie praising Soviet Union before its collapse



He loved it enough to make it his honeymoon destination.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

 

[wamose]

The Democrat's nominee is going to be a communist. That's why their whole platform consists of attacking Trump. It's probably embarrassing for Dems. to state their true totalitarian positions. I wonder if the Pinko, Bernie, still has Vlad and Xi on speed dial?

 

[Norman]

The Democrat's nominee is going to be a communist. That's why their whole platform consists of attacking Trump. It's probably embarrassing for Dems. to state their true totalitarian positions. I wonder if the Pinko, Bernie, still has Vlad and Xi on speed dial?

Too bad they failed to import enough people from socialist/3rd world countries to make socialism a reality in the land of the free.

 

[NightFox]

Neither. "Democratic Socialist". I know y'all wish that qualifier weren't there, but it always has been.

LOL.. "Democratic Socialist", in other words a Marxist that's good at masking his Marxism and not so good at masking his Nationalism.

Socialism is lower stage (i.e. the "pathway to") Marx's vision of Communism, putting a prefix on it doesn't change the fact that what he wants is ever increasing collectivization and centralized control; All it does is prove that he's too delusional to understand where his philosophy ultimately leads society (authoritarian, oppressive regime that eats its own citizenry in order to maintain absolute power).

The funny thing is, Bernie Sanders isn't a liar yet his whole persona and ideology is a LIE, he actually believes his own wacky philosophy isn't what it actually is.

 

[imawhosure]

Neither. "Democratic Socialist". I know y'all wish that qualifier weren't there, but it always has been.

LOL.. "Democratic Socialist", in other words a Marxist that's good at masking his Marxism and not so good at masking his Nationalism.

Socialism is lower stage (i.e. the "pathway to") Marx's vision of Communism, putting a prefix on it doesn't change the fact that what he wants is ever increasing collectivization and centralized control; All it does is prove that he's too delusional to understand where his philosophy ultimately leads society (authoritarian, oppressive regime that eats its own citizenry in order to maintain absolute power).

The funny thing is, Bernie Sanders isn't a liar yet his whole persona and ideology is a LIE, he actually believes his own wacky philosophy isn't what it actually is.

It is rather hysterical when you think about it, how the Left denies the truth!

Lets say----------->

1. BERNARD gets rid of some of some or all of the 2nd amendment.

2. If he takes over healthcare, and his plan DOES outlaw ALL of individual healthcare, check it out.

3. He raises taxes on everyone, and puts in a wealth tax.

4. He insists that fossil fuel vehicles be replaced.

5. ETC, etc!

So now, 49% of the people say nope, not gonna happen, we followed the rules in place, so you go ahead and do FUTURE purchases, but leave us alone.

How does BERNARD get these changes to happen? Think he just asks the people nicely?

Of course not, it is at the point of the GOVERNMENT GUN! You either comply, or? Or what?

Notice, all the Leftists want to RESTRICT you more and more. While Trump gives you more freedom, and if you want to be a Socialist following SOCIALIST principles, well that is up to you. He doesn't FORCE you to buy a gun, accept his tax breaks, or even buy a fossil fuel car. You want to buy an electric car, buy a windmill, put solar on your house? GO FOR IT!

So which party is the party of CONTROL? Which party DEMANDS you do what they say? Which party will almost have to use government force to employ their agenda?

I don't know if BERNARD is a SOCIALIST or a MARXIST, but I do KNOW that Democrats are a bunch of police state tyrants, because they want to RESTRICT/CONSTRICT you more and more, and they need the power, and the bayonet of the Federal Government to do it!

 

[Norman]

Neither. "Democratic Socialist". I know y'all wish that qualifier weren't there, but it always has been.

LOL.. "Democratic Socialist", in other words a Marxist that's good at masking his Marxism and not so good at masking his Nationalism.

Socialism is lower stage (i.e. the "pathway to") Marx's vision of Communism, putting a prefix on it doesn't change the fact that what he wants is ever increasing collectivization and centralized control; All it does is prove that he's too delusional to understand where his philosophy ultimately leads society (authoritarian, oppressive regime that eats its own citizenry in order to maintain absolute power).

The funny thing is, Bernie Sanders isn't a liar yet his whole persona and ideology is a LIE, he actually believes his own wacky philosophy isn't what it actually is.

It is rather hysterical when you think about it, how the Left denies the truth!

Lets say----------->

1. BERNARD gets rid of some of some or all of the 2nd amendment.

2. If he takes over healthcare, and his plan DOES outlaw ALL of individual healthcare, check it out.

3. He raises taxes on everyone, and puts in a wealth tax.

4. He insists that fossil fuel vehicles be replaced.

5. ETC, etc!

So now, 49% of the people say nope, not gonna happen, we followed the rules in place, so you go ahead and do FUTURE purchases, but leave us alone.

How does BERNARD get these changes to happen? Think he just asks the people nicely?

Of course not, it is at the point of the GOVERNMENT GUN! You either comply, or? Or what?

Notice, all the Leftists want to RESTRICT you more and more. While Trump gives you more freedom, and if you want to be a Socialist following SOCIALIST principles, well that is up to you. He doesn't FORCE you to buy a gun, accept his tax breaks, or even buy a fossil fuel car. You want to buy an electric car, buy a windmill, put solar on your house? GO FOR IT!

So which party is the party of CONTROL? Which party DEMANDS you do what they say? Which party will almost have to use government force to employ their agenda?

I don't know if BERNARD is a SOCIALIST or a MARXIST, but I do KNOW that Democrats are a bunch of police state tyrants, because they want to RESTRICT/CONSTRICT you more and more, and they need the power, and the bayonet of the Federal Government to do it!

Socialism and communism are totalitarian anti-American ideologies that have to be defeated at all cost.

As the Bernie staffer said, the first thing they will do is put anyone who disagrees on death camps. That's the communist way.

 

[imawhosure]

Neither. "Democratic Socialist". I know y'all wish that qualifier weren't there, but it always has been.

LOL.. "Democratic Socialist", in other words a Marxist that's good at masking his Marxism and not so good at masking his Nationalism.

Socialism is lower stage (i.e. the "pathway to") Marx's vision of Communism, putting a prefix on it doesn't change the fact that what he wants is ever increasing collectivization and centralized control; All it does is prove that he's too delusional to understand where his philosophy ultimately leads society (authoritarian, oppressive regime that eats its own citizenry in order to maintain absolute power).

The funny thing is, Bernie Sanders isn't a liar yet his whole persona and ideology is a LIE, he actually believes his own wacky philosophy isn't what it actually is.

It is rather hysterical when you think about it, how the Left denies the truth!

Lets say----------->

1. BERNARD gets rid of some of some or all of the 2nd amendment.

2. If he takes over healthcare, and his plan DOES outlaw ALL of individual healthcare, check it out.

3. He raises taxes on everyone, and puts in a wealth tax.

4. He insists that fossil fuel vehicles be replaced.

5. ETC, etc!

So now, 49% of the people say nope, not gonna happen, we followed the rules in place, so you go ahead and do FUTURE purchases, but leave us alone.

How does BERNARD get these changes to happen? Think he just asks the people nicely?

Of course not, it is at the point of the GOVERNMENT GUN! You either comply, or? Or what?

Notice, all the Leftists want to RESTRICT you more and more. While Trump gives you more freedom, and if you want to be a Socialist following SOCIALIST principles, well that is up to you. He doesn't FORCE you to buy a gun, accept his tax breaks, or even buy a fossil fuel car. You want to buy an electric car, buy a windmill, put solar on your house? GO FOR IT!

So which party is the party of CONTROL? Which party DEMANDS you do what they say? Which party will almost have to use government force to employ their agenda?

I don't know if BERNARD is a SOCIALIST or a MARXIST, but I do KNOW that Democrats are a bunch of police state tyrants, because they want to RESTRICT/CONSTRICT you more and more, and they need the power, and the bayonet of the Federal Government to do it!

Socialism and communism are totalitarian anti-American ideologies that have to be defeated at all cost.

As the Bernie staffer said, the first thing they will do is put anyone who disagrees on death camps. That's the communist way.

Just so you know, if you watched any of the recent Trump rallies, he wasn't lying. People are signing up to vote at a tremendous pace, and a good % of people at his rallies are registered Democrats. TODAY, he has the Left by the cucaraches, and they know it!

Things can happen between now and November, but right now, the DNC is the Titanic after hitting the iceberg, and it is 1/2 way down!

 

[Pogo]

Actually the term "Socialist", a trendy marketing term at the time, was already in the name of the party when Hitler joined it. He objected to it but went along for, as you said, its marketing power. And then he organized the "Brownshirts" to attack and intimidate the actual Socialists, and made them the first "guests" at Dachau, while declaring their political party illegal.

Hitler's Economics

• 

10/27/2018Llewellyn H. Rockwell Jr.
[Originally published August 02, 2003.]

[...]
What were those economic policies? He suspended the gold standard, embarked on huge public-works programs like autobahns, protected industry from foreign competition, expanded credit, instituted jobs programs, bullied the private sector on prices and production decisions, vastly expanded the military, enforced capital controls, instituted family planning, penalized smoking, brought about national healthcare and unemployment insurance, imposed education standards, and eventually ran huge deficits. The Nazi interventionist program was essential to the regime's rejection of the market economy and its embrace of socialism in one country.
[my highlight]

Hitler's Economics | Llewellyn H. Rockwell Jr.

No matter what you put in front of the word socialist, you end up with a turd.

Democratic socialism is defined as having a socialist economy in which the means of production are socially and collectively owned or controlled, alongside a democratic political system of government. Democratic socialism rejects self-described socialist states just as it rejects Marxism–Leninism.

Neither. "Democratic Socialist". I know y'all wish that qualifier weren't there, but it always has been.

A distinction without a difference.

Sorry Revisionistas, words mean things and adjectives have functions.

Let's take a common phrase used on this board, since Hitler was brought in irrelevantly --- "Grammar Nazi".

Now what would "Grammar Nazi" mean? By y'all's logic it must mean somebody who will march you off to a concentration camp or gas chamber for misusing a semicolon. Either that or somebody who wants to grammatically annex Poland.

That what it means?

 

[Pogo]

Neither. "Democratic Socialist". I know y'all wish that qualifier weren't there, but it always has been.

LOL.. "Democratic Socialist", in other words a Marxist that's good at masking his Marxism and not so good at masking his Nationalism.

Socialism is lower stage (i.e. the "pathway to") Marx's vision of Communism, putting a prefix on it doesn't change the fact that what he wants is ever increasing collectivization and centralized control; All it does is prove that he's too delusional to understand where his philosophy ultimately leads society (authoritarian, oppressive regime that eats its own citizenry in order to maintain absolute power).

The funny thing is, Bernie Sanders isn't a liar yet his whole persona and ideology is a LIE, he actually believes his own wacky philosophy isn't what it actually is.

It is rather hysterical when you think about it, how the Left denies the truth!

Lets say----------->

1. BERNARD gets rid of some of some or all of the 2nd amendment.

2. If he takes over healthcare, and his plan DOES outlaw ALL of individual healthcare, check it out.

3. He raises taxes on everyone, and puts in a wealth tax.

4. He insists that fossil fuel vehicles be replaced.

5. ETC, etc!

So now, 49% of the people say nope, not gonna happen, we followed the rules in place, so you go ahead and do FUTURE purchases, but leave us alone.

How does BERNARD get these changes to happen? Think he just asks the people nicely?

Of course not, it is at the point of the GOVERNMENT GUN! You either comply, or? Or what?

Notice, all the Leftists want to RESTRICT you more and more. While Trump gives you more freedom, and if you want to be a Socialist following SOCIALIST principles, well that is up to you. He doesn't FORCE you to buy a gun, accept his tax breaks, or even buy a fossil fuel car. You want to buy an electric car, buy a windmill, put solar on your house? GO FOR IT!

So which party is the party of CONTROL? Which party DEMANDS you do what they say? Which party will almost have to use government force to employ their agenda?

I don't know if BERNARD is a SOCIALIST or a MARXIST, but I do KNOW that Democrats are a bunch of police state tyrants, because they want to RESTRICT/CONSTRICT you more and more, and they need the power, and the bayonet of the Federal Government to do it!

Socialism and communism are totalitarian anti-American ideologies that have to be defeated at all cost.

As the Bernie staffer said, the first thing they will do is put anyone who disagrees on death camps. That's the communist way.

Just so you know, if you watched any of the recent Trump rallies, he wasn't lying. People are signing up to vote at a tremendous pace, and a good % of people at his rallies are registered Democrats. TODAY, he has the Left by the cucaraches, and they know it!

Things can happen between now and November, but right now, the DNC is the Titanic after hitting the iceberg, and it is 1/2 way down!

Links to any of that?

 

[Norman]

Actually the term "Socialist", a trendy marketing term at the time, was already in the name of the party when Hitler joined it. He objected to it but went along for, as you said, its marketing power. And then he organized the "Brownshirts" to attack and intimidate the actual Socialists, and made them the first "guests" at Dachau, while declaring their political party illegal.

Hitler's Economics

• 

10/27/2018Llewellyn H. Rockwell Jr.
[Originally published August 02, 2003.]

[...]
What were those economic policies? He suspended the gold standard, embarked on huge public-works programs like autobahns, protected industry from foreign competition, expanded credit, instituted jobs programs, bullied the private sector on prices and production decisions, vastly expanded the military, enforced capital controls, instituted family planning, penalized smoking, brought about national healthcare and unemployment insurance, imposed education standards, and eventually ran huge deficits. The Nazi interventionist program was essential to the regime's rejection of the market economy and its embrace of socialism in one country.
[my highlight]

Hitler's Economics | Llewellyn H. Rockwell Jr.

No matter what you put in front of the word socialist, you end up with a turd.

Democratic socialism is defined as having a socialist economy in which the means of production are socially and collectively owned or controlled, alongside a democratic political system of government. Democratic socialism rejects self-described socialist states just as it rejects Marxism–Leninism.

Neither. "Democratic Socialist". I know y'all wish that qualifier weren't there, but it always has been.

A distinction without a difference.

Sorry Revisionistas, words mean things and adjectives have functions.

Let's take a common phrase used on this board, since Hitler was brought in irrelevantly --- "Grammar Nazi".

Now what would "Grammar Nazi" mean? By y'all's logic it must mean somebody who will march you off to a concentration camp or gas chamber for misusing a semicolon. Either that or somebody who wants to grammatically annex Poland.

That what it means?

I already gave the definition of democratic socialist.

"Democratic socialism is defined as having a socialist economy in which the means of production are socially and collectively owned or controlled, alongside a democratic political system of government. Democratic socialism rejects self-described socialist states just as it rejects Marxism–Leninism."

It's a breed of socialism, just as toxic and destructive as the rest. But like the rest it promises you free shit and just as high status as those who work their ass off so it must be good, right?

 

[Dragonlady]

Is socialist Sanders a communist? Here is what NY post has to say.

"He’s not even a socialist. He’s a communist.

Mainstreaming Sanders requires whitewashing his radical pro-communist past. It won’t be easy to do.

Rewind to 1964.

While attending the University of Chicago, Sanders joined the Young People’s Socialist League, the youth wing of the Socialist Party USA. He also organized for a communist front, the United Packinghouse Workers Union, which at the time was under investigation by the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

After graduating with a political science degree, Sanders moved to Vermont, where he headed the American People’s History Society, an organ for Marxist propaganda. There, he produced a glowing documentary on the life of socialist revolutionary Eugene Debs, who was jailed for espionage during the Red Scare and hailed by the Bolsheviks as “America’s greatest Marxist.”

This subversive hero of Sanders, denounced even by liberal Democrats as a “traitor,” bashed “the barons of Wall Street” and hailed the “triumphant” Bolshevik revolution in Russia.

“Those Russian comrades of ours have made greater sacrifices, have suffered more, and have shed more heroic blood than any like number of men and women anywhere on Earth,” Debs proclaimed. “They have laid the foundation of the first real democracy that ever drew the breath of life in this world.”

Sanders still hangs a portrait of Debs on the wall in his Senate office.

In the early ’70s, Sanders helped found the Liberty Union Party, which called for the nationalization of all US banks and the public takeover of all private utility companies.

After failed runs for Congress, Sanders in 1981 managed to get elected mayor of Burlington, Vt., where he restricted property rights for landlords, set price controls and raised property taxes to pay for communal land trusts. Local small businesses distributed fliers complaining their new mayor “does not believe in free enterprise.”

Sanders took several “goodwill” trips not only to the USSR, but also to Cuba and Nicaragua, where the Soviets were trying to expand their influence in our hemisphere.

In 1985, he traveled to Managua to celebrate the rise to power of the Marxist-Leninist Sandinista government. He called it a “heroic revolution.” Undermining anti-communist US policy, Sanders denounced the Reagan administration’s backing of the Contra rebels in a letter to the Sandinistas.

Sanders also adopted a Soviet sister city outside Moscow and honeymooned with his second wife in the USSR. He put up a Soviet flag in his office, shocking even the Birkenstock-wearing local liberals. At the time, the Evil Empire was on the march around the world, and threatening the US with nuclear annihilation.

Then, in 1989, as the West was on the verge of winning the Cold War, Sanders addressed the national conference of the US Peace Council — a known front for the Communist Party USA, whose members swore an oath not only to the Soviet Union but to “the triumph of Soviet power in the US.”

Today, Sanders wants to bring what he admired in the USSR, Cuba, Nicaragua and other communist states to America.

For starters, he proposes completely nationalizing our health care system and putting private health insurance and drug companies “out of business.” He also wants to break up “big banks” and control the energy industry, while providing “free” college tuition, a “living wage” and guaranteed homeownership and jobs through massive public works projects. Price tag: $18 trillion.

What about those communist sister cities he adopted? “Bernie established them to support people-to-people exchanges which might support peace in the long run,” said Bruce Seifer, who was one of Sanders’ central economic planners directing Burlington businesses to “reinvest their profits in the community.”

In an interview, Seifer claimed that it was “no different than President Nixon opening relations with China.”

Please. Sanders and his Sanderistas are all still pining for what Debs called “the Greater Revolution yet to come.”

https://nypost.com/2016/01/16/dont-be-fooled-by-bernie-sanders-hes-a-diehard-communist/

That you even ask this question shows what a brain dead waste of skin you really are. Quoting the New York post proves it.

THERE ARE NO COMMUNISTS. COMMUNISM IS A FAILED IDEAOLOGY THAT DIED WHEN THE BERLIN WALL CAME DOWN. ALL OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD ARE SOCIALIST, INCLUDING THE USA.

MEDICARE, PUBLIC EDUCATION, AND SOCIAL SECURITY ALL ARE "SOCIALIST PROGRAMS'. THE USA IS ALREADY A SOCIALIST COUNTRY.

 

[Norman]

Is socialist Sanders a communist? Here is what NY post has to say.

"He’s not even a socialist. He’s a communist.

Mainstreaming Sanders requires whitewashing his radical pro-communist past. It won’t be easy to do.

Rewind to 1964.

While attending the University of Chicago, Sanders joined the Young People’s Socialist League, the youth wing of the Socialist Party USA. He also organized for a communist front, the United Packinghouse Workers Union, which at the time was under investigation by the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

After graduating with a political science degree, Sanders moved to Vermont, where he headed the American People’s History Society, an organ for Marxist propaganda. There, he produced a glowing documentary on the life of socialist revolutionary Eugene Debs, who was jailed for espionage during the Red Scare and hailed by the Bolsheviks as “America’s greatest Marxist.”

This subversive hero of Sanders, denounced even by liberal Democrats as a “traitor,” bashed “the barons of Wall Street” and hailed the “triumphant” Bolshevik revolution in Russia.

“Those Russian comrades of ours have made greater sacrifices, have suffered more, and have shed more heroic blood than any like number of men and women anywhere on Earth,” Debs proclaimed. “They have laid the foundation of the first real democracy that ever drew the breath of life in this world.”

Sanders still hangs a portrait of Debs on the wall in his Senate office.

In the early ’70s, Sanders helped found the Liberty Union Party, which called for the nationalization of all US banks and the public takeover of all private utility companies.

After failed runs for Congress, Sanders in 1981 managed to get elected mayor of Burlington, Vt., where he restricted property rights for landlords, set price controls and raised property taxes to pay for communal land trusts. Local small businesses distributed fliers complaining their new mayor “does not believe in free enterprise.”

Sanders took several “goodwill” trips not only to the USSR, but also to Cuba and Nicaragua, where the Soviets were trying to expand their influence in our hemisphere.

In 1985, he traveled to Managua to celebrate the rise to power of the Marxist-Leninist Sandinista government. He called it a “heroic revolution.” Undermining anti-communist US policy, Sanders denounced the Reagan administration’s backing of the Contra rebels in a letter to the Sandinistas.

Sanders also adopted a Soviet sister city outside Moscow and honeymooned with his second wife in the USSR. He put up a Soviet flag in his office, shocking even the Birkenstock-wearing local liberals. At the time, the Evil Empire was on the march around the world, and threatening the US with nuclear annihilation.

Then, in 1989, as the West was on the verge of winning the Cold War, Sanders addressed the national conference of the US Peace Council — a known front for the Communist Party USA, whose members swore an oath not only to the Soviet Union but to “the triumph of Soviet power in the US.”

Today, Sanders wants to bring what he admired in the USSR, Cuba, Nicaragua and other communist states to America.

For starters, he proposes completely nationalizing our health care system and putting private health insurance and drug companies “out of business.” He also wants to break up “big banks” and control the energy industry, while providing “free” college tuition, a “living wage” and guaranteed homeownership and jobs through massive public works projects. Price tag: $18 trillion.

What about those communist sister cities he adopted? “Bernie established them to support people-to-people exchanges which might support peace in the long run,” said Bruce Seifer, who was one of Sanders’ central economic planners directing Burlington businesses to “reinvest their profits in the community.”

In an interview, Seifer claimed that it was “no different than President Nixon opening relations with China.”

Please. Sanders and his Sanderistas are all still pining for what Debs called “the Greater Revolution yet to come.”

https://nypost.com/2016/01/16/dont-be-fooled-by-bernie-sanders-hes-a-diehard-communist/

That you even ask this question shows what a brain dead waste of skin you really are. Quoting the New York post proves it.

THERE ARE NO COMMUNISTS. COMMUNISM IS A FAILED IDEAOLOGY THAT DIED WHEN THE BERLIN WALL CAME DOWN. ALL OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD ARE SOCIALIST, INCLUDING THE USA.

MEDICARE, PUBLIC EDUCATION, AND SOCIAL SECURITY ALL ARE
"SOCIALIST PROGRAMS'. THE USA IS ALREADY A SOCIALIST COUNTRY.

USA is NOT a socialist country.

Socialism has never worked anywhere.

Go fuck yourself, Canadian colluder.

 

[NightFox]

Actually the term "Socialist", a trendy marketing term at the time, was already in the name of the party when Hitler joined it. He objected to it but went along for, as you said, its marketing power. And then he organized the "Brownshirts" to attack and intimidate the actual Socialists, and made them the first "guests" at Dachau, while declaring their political party illegal.

Hitler's Economics

• 

10/27/2018Llewellyn H. Rockwell Jr.
[Originally published August 02, 2003.]

[...]
What were those economic policies? He suspended the gold standard, embarked on huge public-works programs like autobahns, protected industry from foreign competition, expanded credit, instituted jobs programs, bullied the private sector on prices and production decisions, vastly expanded the military, enforced capital controls, instituted family planning, penalized smoking, brought about national healthcare and unemployment insurance, imposed education standards, and eventually ran huge deficits. The Nazi interventionist program was essential to the regime's rejection of the market economy and its embrace of socialism in one country.
[my highlight]

Hitler's Economics | Llewellyn H. Rockwell Jr.

No matter what you put in front of the word socialist, you end up with a turd.

Democratic socialism is defined as having a socialist economy in which the means of production are socially and collectively owned or controlled, alongside a democratic political system of government. Democratic socialism rejects self-described socialist states just as it rejects Marxism–Leninism.

Neither. "Democratic Socialist". I know y'all wish that qualifier weren't there, but it always has been.

A distinction without a difference.

Sorry Revisionistas, words mean things and adjectives have functions.

Let's take a common phrase used on this board, since Hitler was brought in irrelevantly --- "Grammar Nazi".

Now what would "Grammar Nazi" mean? By y'all's logic it must mean somebody who will march you off to a concentration camp or gas chamber for misusing a semicolon. Either that or somebody who wants to grammatically annex Poland.

That what it means?

I already gave the definition of democratic socialist.

"Democratic socialism is defined as having a socialist economy in which the means of production are socially and collectively owned or controlled, alongside a democratic political system of government. Democratic socialism rejects self-described socialist states just as it rejects Marxism–Leninism."

It's a breed of socialism, just as toxic and destructive as the rest. But like the rest it promises you free shit and just as high status as those who work their ass off so it must be good, right?

Notice how these types are always so quick to attempt to counter with but..but..but...it's "Democratic Socialism" in an effort to differentiate it from SOCIALISM? Why the fuck do they include the word socialism in the moniker if they're so adamant that it isn't socialism? The schizophrenic denizens of the left change their masks so often they don't even understand what they believe in anymore.

Apparently some people believe that if you put lipstick on the pig that you can't call it a pig anymore. At least Karl Marx was honest about what socialism is; specifically the state between capitalism and communism, these dishonest bastages today cannot even acknowledge the WORD that they use to define themselves, it's pretty pathetic.

 

[Norman]

Actually the term "Socialist", a trendy marketing term at the time, was already in the name of the party when Hitler joined it. He objected to it but went along for, as you said, its marketing power. And then he organized the "Brownshirts" to attack and intimidate the actual Socialists, and made them the first "guests" at Dachau, while declaring their political party illegal.

Hitler's Economics

• 

10/27/2018Llewellyn H. Rockwell Jr.
[Originally published August 02, 2003.]

[...]
What were those economic policies? He suspended the gold standard, embarked on huge public-works programs like autobahns, protected industry from foreign competition, expanded credit, instituted jobs programs, bullied the private sector on prices and production decisions, vastly expanded the military, enforced capital controls, instituted family planning, penalized smoking, brought about national healthcare and unemployment insurance, imposed education standards, and eventually ran huge deficits. The Nazi interventionist program was essential to the regime's rejection of the market economy and its embrace of socialism in one country.
[my highlight]

Hitler's Economics | Llewellyn H. Rockwell Jr.

No matter what you put in front of the word socialist, you end up with a turd.

Democratic socialism is defined as having a socialist economy in which the means of production are socially and collectively owned or controlled, alongside a democratic political system of government. Democratic socialism rejects self-described socialist states just as it rejects Marxism–Leninism.

Neither. "Democratic Socialist". I know y'all wish that qualifier weren't there, but it always has been.

A distinction without a difference.

Sorry Revisionistas, words mean things and adjectives have functions.

Let's take a common phrase used on this board, since Hitler was brought in irrelevantly --- "Grammar Nazi".

Now what would "Grammar Nazi" mean? By y'all's logic it must mean somebody who will march you off to a concentration camp or gas chamber for misusing a semicolon. Either that or somebody who wants to grammatically annex Poland.

That what it means?

I already gave the definition of democratic socialist.

"Democratic socialism is defined as having a socialist economy in which the means of production are socially and collectively owned or controlled, alongside a democratic political system of government. Democratic socialism rejects self-described socialist states just as it rejects Marxism–Leninism."

It's a breed of socialism, just as toxic and destructive as the rest. But like the rest it promises you free shit and just as high status as those who work their ass off so it must be good, right?

Notice how these types are always so quick to attempt to counter with but..but..but...it's "Democratic Socialism" in an effort to differentiate it from SOCIALISM? Why the fuck do they include the word socialism in the moniker if they're so adamant that it isn't socialism? The schizophrenic denizens of the left change their masks so often they don't even understand what they believe in anymore.

Apparently some people believe that if you put lipstick on the pig that you can't call it a pig anymore. At least Karl Marx was honest about what socialism is; specifically the state between capitalism and communism, these dishonest bastages today cannot even acknowledge the WORD that they use to define themselves, it's pretty pathetic.

Democratic socialism is socialism. And the "democratic" in front of it, has no practical meaning. Just a feel good word added to it.

 

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Hitler's Economics

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10/27/2018Llewellyn H. Rockwell Jr.
[Originally published August 02, 2003.]

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What were those economic policies? He suspended the gold standard, embarked on huge public-works programs like autobahns, protected industry from foreign competition, expanded credit, instituted jobs programs, bullied the private sector on prices and production decisions, vastly expanded the military, enforced capital controls, instituted family planning, penalized smoking, brought about national healthcare and unemployment insurance, imposed education standards, and eventually ran huge deficits. The Nazi interventionist program was essential to the regime's rejection of the market economy and its embrace of socialism in one country.
[my highlight]

Hitler's Economics | Llewellyn H. Rockwell Jr.

No matter what you put in front of the word socialist, you end up with a turd.

Democratic socialism is defined as having a socialist economy in which the means of production are socially and collectively owned or controlled, alongside a democratic political system of government. Democratic socialism rejects self-described socialist states just as it rejects Marxism–Leninism.

Neither. "Democratic Socialist". I know y'all wish that qualifier weren't there, but it always has been.

A distinction without a difference.

Sorry Revisionistas, words mean things and adjectives have functions.

Let's take a common phrase used on this board, since Hitler was brought in irrelevantly --- "Grammar Nazi".

Now what would "Grammar Nazi" mean? By y'all's logic it must mean somebody who will march you off to a concentration camp or gas chamber for misusing a semicolon. Either that or somebody who wants to grammatically annex Poland.

That what it means?

I already gave the definition of democratic socialist.

"Democratic socialism is defined as having a socialist economy in which the means of production are socially and collectively owned or controlled, alongside a democratic political system of government. Democratic socialism rejects self-described socialist states just as it rejects Marxism–Leninism."

It's a breed of socialism, just as toxic and destructive as the rest. But like the rest it promises you free shit and just as high status as those who work their ass off so it must be good, right?

Notice how these types are always so quick to attempt to counter with but..but..but...it's "Democratic Socialism" in an effort to differentiate it from SOCIALISM? Why the fuck do they include the word socialism in the moniker if they're so adamant that it isn't socialism? The schizophrenic denizens of the left change their masks so often they don't even understand what they believe in anymore.

Apparently some people believe that if you put lipstick on the pig that you can't call it a pig anymore. At least Karl Marx was honest about what socialism is; specifically the state between capitalism and communism, these dishonest bastages today cannot even acknowledge the WORD that they use to define themselves, it's pretty pathetic.

Democratic socialism is socialism. And the "democratic" in front of it, has no practical meaning. Just a feel good word added to it.

Rewind to post 2. Read it again until it sinks in.