Is Anti-Zionism the Same as Anti-Semitism?

[Captain Creeper]

From thousands of years ago?
The fact is, those people got removed from their homes.
What If Britain declared they support the indians taking back this country, and the indians started massacring all of us, and taking our land?
I am not an anti zionist. I am not a zionist. I simply dont give a damn lol. I understand both sides, but im not going to pretend like what they did, wasnt jacked up.

We would mow down those redskins with like dogs! I am not particularly uptight about conquering nations, as it is part of our history. Personally, I do not think the native Americans had any more right to this land as the European settlers. There was no system of land title/ownership back then. The indians were essentially squatters on the land. Was there a little shooty-shooty and such along the way? Sure...both ways.

 

[TNHarley]

You are using their made-up language.

All language is made up. And nakba simply means catastrophe. I would say the displacement and murder of hundreds of thousands of people is a catastrophe.

 

[TNHarley]

We would mow down those redskins with like dogs! I am not particularly uptight about conquering nations, as it is part of our history. Personally, I do not think the native Americans had any more right to this land as the European settlers. There was no system of land title/ownership back then. The indians were essentially squatters on the land. Was there a little shooty-shooty and such along the way? Sure...both ways.

Ok that made me lol. lol
And thats true, but my point still stands.

 

[Captain Creeper]

I am genetically jewish. Do I have a right to kick an arab out of their home and/or kill them in israel?

If he is not there legally, of course. The "PalEsTinAns" are essentially nomadic Arabs. F- them.

 

[Captain Creeper]

uh quit LYING,its just the opposite. when you zioinsts are confronted with opposition with pesky facts you cant refute that separate zionism from jewish good folks with your disingenuous attempt to intellectualize zionism,when you cant prove it and are called out for it,you all are the ones that throw a fit like children and then engage in name calling.

^ Dipshittery 101

 

[Winston]

What if the displaced people had no right to be there in the first place?

Who is this "thing", that grants rights to peoples?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

**** that. Who says the "PalEisTinAns" have a right to be there anyway?

Of course, there was no such thing as a Palestinian when Israel was created, just Arabs and Jews.

Arabs already got 78 percent of the Mandate of Palestine. The Egyptian terrorist who changed his name from al-husseini to Arafat helped create a new "Palestinian" people so the Arabs could get even more.

 

[Churchill]

Living on the land does not necessarily mean you have a RIGHT to be on the land.

That right is enshrined in agreements between the British and the Arabs who helped eject the Turkish colonizers from Palestine and it is enshrined the Mandate for Palestine.

Since then those rights have been reaffirmed by the United Nations and during the Nuremberg Tribunals where German colonization was examined and defenses for it defeated.

 

[Captain Creeper]

Who is this "thing", that grants rights to peoples?

Ok, so the Jews could walk right in there and seize the land then, if there is no right for the others to be there! I am glad we agree on this.

 

[Captain Creeper]

That right is enshrined in agreements between the British and the Arabs who helped eject the Turkish colonizers from Palestine and it is enshrined the Mandate for Palestine.

Since then those rights have been reaffirmed by the United Nations and during the Nuremberg Tribunals where German colonization was examined and defenses for it defeated.

LOL. That is meaningless.

 

[Churchill]

Nakba is a phony, made up term created by the Islamists you support.

This is the mind of the Holocaust denier, you're no different, your just denying a different Holocaust.

The fact of the matter is that Arabs ATTACKED the fledgling state of Israel.

Because it violated an agreement the Arabs had with the British and it imposed a partitioning that the majority of the people were opposed to, a lot of whom were Jews.

Those Arabs who didn't attack STAYED in Israel and continued on with their lives.

Under an apartheid regime where their sons get imprisoned without trial, their homes get demolished, and they must pass through umpteen checkpoints to get across town.

 

[Captain Creeper]

This is the mind of the Holocaust denier, you're no different, your just denying a different Holocaust.

Because it violated an agreement the Arabs had with the British and it imposed a partitioning that the majority of the people were opposed to, a lot of whom were Jews.

Under an apartheid regime where their sons get imprisoned without trial, their homes get demolished, and they must pass through umpteen checkpoints to get across town.

It's neat how you throw terms like "apartheid", "denier", "holocaust", etc..., so as to editorialize your horse shit. You would fit right in at CNN.

 

[Churchill]

If he is not there legally, of course. The "PalEsTinAns" are essentially nomadic Arabs. F- them.

Not true the majority were not Bedouins. Arab villages with Arabic names were all over the maps and those maps went back centuries. Most of those Arab villages were raided and the inhabitants kicked out, the water wells poisoned, farms burned down and the villages renamed with Hebrew names and resettled by colonizing Jews.

You don't seem to have read much about this subject.

 

[Churchill]

It's neat how you throw terms like "apartheid", "denier", "holocaust", etc..., so as to editorialize your horse shit. You would fit right in at CNN.

Sorry, but you can't censor me, try buying a dictionary then you can lookup all those unfamiliar words.

 

[Churchill]

Of course, there was no such thing as a Palestinian when Israel was created, just Arabs and Jews.

Would you like to see the typed notes from a meeting in London between Lord Rothschild, Lawrence of Arabia and leading Zionists? The meeting took place in 1919 thirty years before the state of Israel was formed and the word "Palestinian" is used several times.

Arabs already got 78 percent of the Mandate of Palestine.

The Arabs or rather the people who already lived in Palestine, had just evicted the Turks, it was their land, their territory and the British had agreed to help setup a democratic Palestinian government, but the British betrayed them and secretly agreed to grab some of the territory and assist in the creation of a Jewish colony.

The desire to setup a Jewish state on Arab land was an external political idea, there was no desire among Palestinian Jews for a "Jewish State" they wanted nothing to do with such an idea, it was foreign, a foreign and alien political ideology that was an insult to Judaism.

The vast majority of the inhabitants were not in favor of carving out some arbitrary area (already occupied) and allowing that to be ruled by a Jew supremacist government, it was an unpopular, fringe idea but the British went along with the stupidity just as the USA is going along with today's stupidity.

The Egyptian terrorist who changed his name from al-husseini to Arafat helped create a new "Palestinian" people so the Arabs could get even more.

It was already theirs ! They had lived under Ottoman rule for 400 years and had just forced the Ottomans out !

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Would you like to see the typed notes from a meeting in London between Lord Rothschild, Lawrence of Arabia and leading Zionists? The meeting took place in 1919 thirty years before the state of Israel was formed and the word "Palestinian" is used several times.

The Arabs or rather the people who already lived in Palestine, had just evicted the Turks, it was their land, their territory and the British had agreed to help setup a democratic Palestinian government, but the British betrayed them and secretly agreed to grab some of the territory and assist in the creation of a Jewish colony.

The desire to setup a Jewish state on Arab land was an external political idea, there was no desire among Palestinian Jews for a "Jewish State" they wanted nothing to do with such an idea, it was foreign, a foreign and alien political ideology that was an insult to Judaism.

The vast majority of the inhabitants were not in favor of carving out some arbitrary area (already occupied) and allowing that to be ruled by a Jew supremacist government, it was an unpopular, fringe idea but the British went along with the stupidity just as the USA is going along with today's stupidity.

It was already theirs ! They had lived under Ottoman rule for 400 years and had just forced the Ottomans out !

The British Mandate was known as “Palestine, which was a geo-political term for the region. Therefore Jews living there were known as > Palestinians.

As for the land, 70% of the land designated for the Jews by the British was given to the Hashemites, in order to appease the Arabs.

 

[Hector12]

What happened, Hector12 ? You disappeared.

The Talmud is vast. It is not considered infallible by Jews.

 

[TNHarley]

The Talmud is vast. It is not considered infallible by Jews.

Lol shut the hell up

 

[Hector12]

The British Mandate was known as “Palestine, which was a geo-political term for the region. Therefore Jews living there were known as > Palestinians.

As for the land, 70% of the land designated for the Jews by the British was given to the Hashemites, in order to appease the Arabs.

There is plenty of room in the Arab world for the Palestinians:

 

[ShahdagMountains]

The term anti-Zionism refers to modern-day opposition to Zionism—or, simply put, the denial of the Jewish people’s right to self-determination in their ancestral homeland. Whether motivated by politics, religion, or ignorance, those who espouse anti-Zionist views help to perpetuate a subtle form of antisemitism and often invoke historic antisemitic tropes to disenfranchise the national aspirations of Jewish people.

To grasp the malicious nature of anti-Zionism, one first must understand the shapeshifting nature of antisemitism. Jews have been the subject of antisemitic conspiracy myths for centuries. In Roman, and, later, medieval times, Jews faced accusations of deicide and the poisoning of drinking water and were the subjects of blood libel accusations. These conspiracy myths, which over the ages morphed into allegations that Jews were responsible for global political and economic turmoil, led to persecution and put Jews in grave physical danger.

Many of these antisemitic tropes or their derivatives persist today in the press and on social media, and frequently results in violence that harms Jews in communities worldwide. Now, however, the hate is often influenced by events connected to the complex Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and those spreading it utilize terms such as Zionist and Zionism as euphemisms for Jewish people and their national belief systems.

As Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. explained so succinctly, "When people criticize Zionists, they mean Jews. You're talking antisemitism.”

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