Is Anti-Zionism the Same as Anti-Semitism?

[Churchill]

There was no colonization involved. That is just a dishonest framing device you Muslims use to delegitimize.

Colonize means to send large numbers of settlers to a region and establish political control over that region, so yes, Palestine was colonized.

Jews BOUGHT the land they resettled on, and they originated from that very land.

They also settled on land that they didn't buy and they're still doing it today.

 

[Churchill]

Period. End of story.

No, not according to this forum's rules, I suggest you read them.

Thread 'What Antisemitism Is and Isn't: A Primer'

Oct 4, 2025

Antisemitism is generally viewed as a bigoted attitude toward those of the Jewish faith. For example:

"All Jews must die," "All Jews are inferior to x," "All Jews are murderers," or "Jews should be forbidden to practice their faith."

What antisemitism is not is an informed objection to enacted policies of the Jewish State of Israel. Nor is it a support for the plight of the Palestinian citizenry. For example:

"I oppose what Israel is doing, because x, y, or z," or "I feel sorry for the Palestinians, because x, y, or z."...

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[TNHarley]

There was no country given to anybody. You are merely repeating the talking points of Islamists.

Oh, so the displacement of the people living there didnt actually happen?
So the Nakba, was actually the people that were living there, just gave up their homes? They werent really displaced? They werent evicted? Villages werent destroyed? Deir Yassan was just a big group hug? They were allowed to return?
They just gave up their land out of the goodness of their hearts?
I have used "given" loosely, BTW.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Defining antisemitism: Why anti-Zionism is a form of antisemitism - World Jewish Congress

Representing Jewish Communities In 100 Countries Across Six Continents

www.worldjewishcongress.org

There are a lot of Jew haters that attempt to make the distinction between Jews and Zionism. Yes, there is a difference on certain levels. However the anti-Semites claim that anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism. When confronted with opposition to their disingenuous attempt to intellectualize their anti-Semitism, they throw a fit, like children.

I will point out that this attempt by anti-Semites to launder their vile, bigoted Jew hatred is not organic. The repetitiveness of this narrative makes it clear that these people are merely parroting it. Second, and as I mentioned, they cannot defend their position. Thus, when confronted they throw hissy fits. Therefore, 99 out of 100 times you hear an anti-Semite making the claim that they are not anti-Semitic, and are merely anti-Zionist, you know you are dealing with a shill; a puppet, a useful idiot of the left.

Claiming you are not anti-Semitic, just anti-Zionist is the exact same thing as saying, "I don't hate black people. I just hate 'the N-words'". You say, "Well, you see, some of my best friends are black. I play golf with a black man. I play backgammon with a black man. I even allow negros into my home to clean my toilets. There is absolutely no way that I am racist. But, I hate 'N-Words'. They will rape your wife, rob your home and shiv you on the street. That does not mean I am racist. I have no reason to hate black people. I only dislike a CERTAIN KIND OF BLACK PEOPLE, AND CERTAIN THINGS THOSE PEOPLE DO."

Explain to me how "I haTe ZioNisM but not the Joos..." differs from this in any way. Hint: it does not. YOU are doing exactly the same thing. When you Jew haters write or utter the word "Zionism", it is a dogwhistle for anti-Semites. Jew haters say, "I am perfectly fine with Jews as long as they are not Zionists" (because THEY hate Zionism). This is EXACTLY the same thing as saying, "I am perfectly fine with black people, so long as they work, do not rape my wife, and do not murder me and my family." (as some are prone to do, based upon FBI crime statistics).

Anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism. Zionism was done by Jews to form a Jewish state so they could be protected from the hate and violence they were subjected to since the dawn of time. You cannot extricate the Jew from the Zionism.

^ Cut and paste from Bibi

 

[TNHarley]

I am asking you to document your assertion.

Ok, son. Take my hand and I will show you reality.

Sanhedrin 59a: “Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal.”
Abodah Zara 26b: “Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed.”
Libbre David 37: “To communicate anything to a Goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly.”
Schabouth Hag. 6d: “Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording.”
Hilkkoth Akum X1: “Show no mercy to the Goyim.”
Choschen Hamm 388, 15: “If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth.
Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17: “A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them.”
Baba Necia 114, 6: “The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts.
Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D: “When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves.”
Aboda Sarah 37a: “A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated.”
Gad. Shas. 2:2: “A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl.”

Would you like more? The talmud is full of violent, hateful BS like this.
As I said, its extremely similar to the quran.

 

[Captain Creeper]

You can be against displacement, while not having hatred for a group of people.
Just like you can be against the israeli govt, and not have hatred for jews.
I mean, sure. They probably hate you goyim, but you dont have to hate them.

The displaced here want to murder Jews, displaced or not.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Only people who truly don’t understand Zionism can insist that anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism

I’ve probably posted a dozen separate demonstrations of Jews protesting Israel and Zionism, it doesn’t register

 

[Hector12]

Ah yes, you know who started that whole meme? Anti-Semites.

"While thus examining the working of the Jewish race over long periods of history, the anxious question suddenly occurred to me whether perhaps inscrutable Destiny, for reasons unknown to us poor mortals, had not unalterably decreed the final victory to this little race?"

- Adolf Hitler, from Mein Kampf, Volume I, Chapter II, "Years of Study and Suffering in Vienna"

"Also the intellectual abilities were schooled in the course of centuries. Today the Jew is looked upon as 'clever,' and in a certain sense he has been so at all times."

- Adolf Hitler from Mein Kampf, from Volume I, Chapter XI, "Nation and Race"

 

[Churchill]

The displaced here want to murder Jews, displaced or not.

They want to resist being colonized, it stands to reason if the colonizers are Jews then they'll be resisting and fighting Jews.

If the colonizers were Germans then it would be the same, those being colonized would be fighting Germans.

Why are you struggling with this stuff?

 

[Captain Creeper]

Oh, so the displacement of the people living there didnt actually happen?
So the Nakba, was actually the people that were living there, just gave up their homes? They werent really displaced? They werent evicted? Villages werent destroyed? Deir Yassan was just a big group hug? They were allowed to return?
They just gave up their land out of the goodness of their hearts?
I have used "given" loosely, BTW.

What if the displaced people had no right to be there in the first place?

 

[Captain Creeper]

Not if you lived on the land they were about to colonize, nope, then you'd start complaining perhaps even fight, then they'd call you a terrorist etc etc.

Living on the land does not necessarily mean you have a RIGHT to be on the land.

 

[TNHarley]

What if the displaced people had no right to be there in the first place?

From thousands of years ago?
The fact is, those people got removed from their homes.
What If Britain declared they support the indians taking back this country, and the indians started massacring all of us, and taking our land?
I am not an anti zionist. I am not a zionist. I simply dont give a damn lol. I understand both sides, but im not going to pretend like what they did, wasnt jacked up.

 

[Captain Creeper]

"MISHNA: A girl who is three years and one day old, whose father arranged her betrothal, is betrothed through intercourse, as the halakhic status of intercourse with her is that of intercourse in all halakhic senses. And in a case where the childless husband of a girl three years and one day old dies, if his brother the yavam engages in intercourse with her, he acquires her".

English Explanation of Mishnah Niddah 5:2:1 | Sefaria Library

If he was eating terumah when he felt that his limbs shook, he should take hold of his member and swallow the terumah. If a man is eating terumah and he feels...

www.sefaria.org

What the **** that THAT have to do with this thread?!?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Oh, so the displacement of the people living there didnt actually happen?
So the Nakba, was actually the people that were living there, just gave up their homes? They werent really displaced? They werent evicted? Villages werent destroyed? Deir Yassan was just a big group hug? They were allowed to return?
They just gave up their land out of the goodness of their hearts?
I have used "given" loosely, BTW.

Nakba is a phony, made up term created by the Islamists you support.

The fact of the matter is that Arabs ATTACKED the fledgling state of Israel. Those Arabs who didn't attack STAYED in Israel and continued on with their lives.

 

[Captain Creeper]

They want to resist being colonized, it stands to reason if the colonizers are Jews then they'll be resisting and fighting Jews.

If the colonizers were Germans then it would be the same, those being colonized would be fighting Germans.

Why are you struggling with this stuff?

**** that. Who says the "PalEisTinAns" have a right to be there anyway?

 

[TNHarley]

Nakba is a phony, made up term created by the Islamists you support.

The fact of the matter is that Arabs ATTACKED the fledgling state of Israel. Those Arabs who didn't attack STAYED in Israel and continued on with their lives.

Now I support islam? In a thread with me bashing islam?
Are you really going to go there? You are smart, act like it.

 

[Hector12]

"MISHNA: A girl who is three years and one day old, whose father arranged her betrothal, is betrothed through intercourse, as the halakhic status of intercourse with her is that of intercourse in all halakhic senses. And in a case where the childless husband of a girl three years and one day old dies, if his brother the yavam engages in intercourse with her, he acquires her".

English Explanation of Mishnah Niddah 5:2:1 | Sefaria Library

If he was eating terumah when he felt that his limbs shook, he should take hold of his member and swallow the terumah. If a man is eating terumah and he feels...

www.sefaria.org

This is what i got from your quote:

IntroductionThis mishnah teaches that in a legal sense, sexual relations with a girl over the age of three counts as sexual relations.I should emphasize that this mishnah in no way condones such an act (which is certainly rape)

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Defining antisemitism: Why anti-Zionism is a form of antisemitism - World Jewish Congress

Representing Jewish Communities In 100 Countries Across Six Continents

www.worldjewishcongress.org

There are a lot of Jew haters that attempt to make the distinction between Jews and Zionism. Yes, there is a difference on certain levels. However the anti-Semites claim that anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism. When confronted with opposition to their disingenuous attempt to intellectualize their anti-Semitism, they throw a fit, like children.

I will point out that this attempt by anti-Semites to launder their vile, bigoted Jew hatred is not organic. The repetitiveness of this narrative makes it clear that these people are merely parroting it. Second, and as I mentioned, they cannot defend their position. Thus, when confronted they throw hissy fits. Therefore, 99 out of 100 times you hear an anti-Semite making the claim that they are not anti-Semitic, and are merely anti-Zionist, you know you are dealing with a shill; a puppet, a useful idiot of the left.

Claiming you are not anti-Semitic, just anti-Zionist is the exact same thing as saying, "I don't hate black people. I just hate 'the N-words'". You say, "Well, you see, some of my best friends are black. I play golf with a black man. I play backgammon with a black man. I even allow negros into my home to clean my toilets. There is absolutely no way that I am racist. But, I hate 'N-Words'. They will rape your wife, rob your home and shiv you on the street. That does not mean I am racist. I have no reason to hate black people. I only dislike a CERTAIN KIND OF BLACK PEOPLE, AND CERTAIN THINGS THOSE PEOPLE DO."

Explain to me how "I haTe ZioNisM but not the Joos..." differs from this in any way. Hint: it does not. YOU are doing exactly the same thing. When you Jew haters write or utter the word "Zionism", it is a dogwhistle for anti-Semites. Jew haters say, "I am perfectly fine with Jews as long as they are not Zionists" (because THEY hate Zionism). This is EXACTLY the same thing as saying, "I am perfectly fine with black people, so long as they work, do not rape my wife, and do not murder me and my family." (as some are prone to do, based upon FBI crime statistics).

Anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism. Zionism was done by Jews to form a Jewish state so they could be protected from the hate and violence they were subjected to since the dawn of time. You cannot extricate the Jew from the Zionism.

uh quit LYING,its just the opposite. when you zioinsts are confronted with opposition with pesky facts you cant refute that separate zionism from jewish good folks with your disingenuous attempt to intellectualize zionism,when you cant prove it and are called out for it,you all are the ones that throw a fit like children and then engage in name calling.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Now I support islam? In a thread with me bashing islam?
Are you really going to go there? You are smart, act like it.

You are using their made-up language.

 

[TNHarley]

**** that. Who says the "PalEisTinAns" have a right to be there anyway?

I am genetically jewish. Do I have a right to kick an arab out of their home and/or kill them in israel?