Is Anthropogenic (Human-Caused) Global Warming/AGW Falsifiable?

[Grumblenuts]

Guess you’ll take it up with Iceland. They “ must” be lying ?

I have no argument "with Iceland" and what I said was fine.

 

[Dagosa]

Not true, but it is confusing:

True, "Iceland is" not "the only place where all power comes from geothermal."
True, (see above) all of its grid electricity comes from renewables.
So:
True, "Iceland is the only place where all electrical grid power comes from" geothermal renewables.

So:
True, "85% of the total primary energy supply in Iceland is" renewables.
True, "Most of Iceland's renewables" are hydro geothermal.

True, energy may be supplied as electricity or thermally. Directly through steam, water, or air. Indirectly through heat exchange of any sort.

Recapping the main point just to be crystal, in 2016 anyway:

15% of "primary energy supply in Iceland" came from fossil fuels. Out of 85% left "the share of hydropower was 20%" while "Geothermal energy provided about 65%".

I have no argument "with Iceland" and what I said was fine.

As long as you define “ fine” as incorrect. Iceland uses hydropower to produce MOST of its electricity.

 

[Grumblenuts]

As long as you define “ fine” as incorrect. Iceland uses hydropower to produce MOST of its electricity.

Quote me saying otherwise. "Renewables" means energy such as heat (thermal), not just "electricity."
eta:

There are 6 basic forms of energy:

1. Mechanical energy
2. Chemical energy
3. Thermal or heat energy
4. Electrical energy
5. Nuclear energy
6. Radiation

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Unlike the annual $10 billion or so fossil fuels have been receiving for decades.

If you could stop confusing tax deductions, that every business deducts, with subsidies,
you'd look much less ignorant.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You’re funny…..stupid, but funny. Let’s see, according you Humpers, it’s a fraud, now it’s a trend. So, according to you, everyone is investing in renewables, not because they work, but because it’s a trend. What a dip shit.

They invest in it for PR and to meet stupid government mandates.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Don’t be ridiculous..of course they do. They have for a long time. You can’t even look it up ? They get direct subsidies ( payments) and indirect in the form of tax breaks….they are still called subsidies. Dumbo, the state and feds also subsidize EVs made in America in the form of tax breaks. They are still call subsidies…dah.

They get direct subsidies ( payments) and indirect in the form of tax breaks….

What direct payments do fossil fuel companies get?
What "tax breaks" do they get?

Post some real evidence.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You need to actually read the article. They're talking worldwide and not just including explicit subsidies but tax breaks and the costs of environmental damage.

So fake numbers.

 

[Dagosa]

Quote me saying otherwise. "Renewables" means energy such as heat (thermal), not just "electricity."
eta:

It’s OK.

 

[Dagosa]

Quote me saying otherwise. "Renewables" means energy such as heat (thermal), not just "electricity."
eta:

You’ve been adamant about geothermal providing MOST of the renewables energy. It doesn’t .

 

[Grumblenuts]

It’s OK.

Apparently not.

You’ve been adamant about geothermal providing MOST of the renewables energy. It doesn’t .

You've been adamant. I've been calm. Me:

True, "Most of Iceland's renewables" are hydro geothermal.

I linked and quoted Wikipedia backing me up. Iceland agrees:

Geothermal sources announct{sic} for 66% of Iceland's primary energy use.

Your Forbes article agrees with me. Your Statista link deals solely with electrical power generation.

 

[Redfish]

Even that’s wrong.

Virtually means, nearly, almost. So, what I said is correct, doofus. almost all ,nearly all, of Iceland's power comes from thermal.

 

[Redfish]

You’ve been adamant about geothermal providing MOST of the renewables energy. It doesn’t .

that conversation applied only to Iceland, it is accurate as to that island country only. But on that topic. how many windmills; dams, and solar farms would be needed to provide the power needs of the USA?

 

[Redfish]

Virtually means, nearly, almost. So, what I said is correct, doofus. almost all ,nearly all, of Iceland's power comes from thermal.

I stand corrected iceland power generation - Bing

But that does not change the fact that Dagosa is a raving lunatic

 

[Crick]

my error, should have said virtually all. happy now?

No, you should not. THIRTY percent of Iceland's power is produced from geothermal sources.

 

[Grumblenuts]

No, you should not. THIRTY percent of Iceland's power is produced from geothermal sources.

Additionally, virtually all of Iceland's energy comes from renewables as opposed to fossil fuel sources. Yes, most of their electricity comes from renewable hydroelectric. However, most of that goes to smelt aluminum, not toward heating or powering citizen's homes.

Iceland's consumption of electricity per capita was seven times higher than EU 15 average in 2008. The majority of the electricity is sold to industrial users, mainly aluminium smelters and producers of ferroalloy. The aluminum industry in Iceland used up to 70% of produced electricity in 2013.[2]

 

[Grumblenuts]

that conversation applied only to Iceland, it is accurate as to that island country only. But on that topic. how many windmills; dams, and solar farms would be needed to provide the power needs of the USA?

Forget hydroelectric for starters:

Solar power could replace all US hydro dams using ‘just 13% of the space’

Banks of solar panels would be able to replace every electricity-producing dam in the US using just 13% of the space, according to a new study. The researchers say this “surprisingly modest” figure provides a “tantalising” vision of what could be achieved if the nation phased out a power source...

www.carbonbrief.org

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Forget hydroelectric for starters:

Solar power could replace all US hydro dams using ‘just 13% of the space’

Banks of solar panels would be able to replace every electricity-producing dam in the US using just 13% of the space, according to a new study. The researchers say this “surprisingly modest” figure provides a “tantalising” vision of what could be achieved if the nation phased out a power source...

www.carbonbrief.org

13% of the area of the reservoirs, not 13% of the area of the dams.

The researchers say this “surprisingly modest” figure provides a “tantalising” vision of what could be achieved

Modest? LOL!

How many panels do we need to replace the power hydro produces at 10 pm?

 

[Dagosa]

Virtually means, nearly, almost. So, what I said is correct, doofus. almost all ,nearly all, of Iceland's power comes from thermal.

Nope. It comes from hydro. I had a reference, no one else did. We are talking about power generation as o 2022, not 2016. That’s old shit.

Apparently not.

You've been adamant. I've been calm. Me:

I linked and quoted Wikipedia backing me up. Iceland agrees:

Your Forbes article agrees with me. Your Statista link deals solely with electrical power generation.

ha ha
Of course it deals with electric power generation. Everything else is meaningless as a model for the rest of the world. Electricity is the primary power all renewables are geared to produce.

 

[Dagosa]

Apparently not.

You've been adamant. I've been calm. Me:

I linked and quoted Wikipedia backing me up. Iceland agrees:

Your Forbes article agrees with me. Your Statista link deals solely with electrical power generation.

Iceland's electricity is produced almost entirely from renewable energy sources:

Apparently not.

You've been adamant. I've been calm. Me:

I linked and quoted Wikipedia backing me up. Iceland agrees:

Your Forbes article agrees with me. Your Statista link deals solely with electrical power generation.

the government of Iceland.
“Renewable energy provided almost 100% of electricity production, with about 73% coming fromhydropower and 27% from geothermal power. Most of the hydropower plants are owned by Landsvirkjun (the National Power Company) which is the main supplier of electricity in Iceland.”

Government of Iceland | En…​

government.is

 

[Dagosa]

I stand corrected iceland power generation - Bing

But that does not change the fact that Dagosa is a raving lunatic

Nothing has changed. You’re an asshole.
Power generation is electricity.
The Icelandic gov…..
“Renewable energy provided almost 100% of electricity production, with about 73% coming fromhydropower and 27% from geothermal power. Most of the hydropower plants are owned by Landsvirkjun (the National Power Company) which is the main supplier of electricity in Iceland.

Government of Iceland | En…​

government.is