Is another Civil War brewing?

[dannyboys]

I don't know what planet you are living on, but it sure isn't Earth(or Earf if you live in the inner city).

Oh, its earth:

U.S. Liberals at Record 24%, but Still Trail Conservatives

Liberals are at a record high of 24%. Conservatives are a point off an all time low at 38, a slow decline since 2010. While liberals have been ascending during the same period.

Maybe instead of living in your parents basement typing an a plastic keyboard that is made from PETROLEUM you get out and see what is going on in America. Let me remind you of the past election and even though the Republicrats still aren't listening to US, more and more Americans are moving away from your socialist president and more towards what made America great. Republicans Rule House and Senate for First Time in 8 Years - NBC News

Again, more people voted for democratic house and senate candidates than voted for republican. You can hardly claim to have the 'people' behind you when more vote against you than vote for you. Democratic house and senate candidates got 98 million votes. Republican house and senate candidates got only 94 million votes.

You can babble on about basements all you like. But the numbers don't change. Nor apparently does your desperate, willful ignorance of them.

Oh, and Obama's approval numbers are steady. And about 15 points higher than the last republican president at this point in his presidency.

Republicans are 90% white and getting older all the time.

Liberals are only a part of the Democratic Party. Democrats have conservatives. Republicans have no liberals.

Republicans have engaged in a steady tactic of purging their own party of moderates, pragmatists, and anyone willing to cross the aisle to get things done. What they don't seem to realize is that moderates and liberals make up the majority of the electorate.

Then why did the DEMs lose so badly in the mid-terms?

 

[Old Rocks]

We did not lose badly in the mid-terms. We lost exactly as expected in the Senate because of the geography of the seats that were up for election. For the same reason that the Dems will win the Senate back in 2016.

 

[Unkotare]

We did not lose badly in the mid-terms. ...

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

We did not lose badly in the mid-terms. We lost exactly as expected in the Senate because of the geography of the seats that were up for election. For the same reason that the Dems will win the Senate back in 2016.

Remember that when liberals lose, they win, because no matter what they are delusional. After the government shutdown, the liberal lickspittle lapdog media had warned the Repub's that they were going to get a shellacking in the midterms and the Repub's took more seats. But it didn't matter for the Repukes went against the people and didn't stop Obummber from continuing of the desecration of America. So here we are with the Donald, who is going against the establishment, both (R) and (D) and the career politicians have no clue on what to do. Both republican and democratic voters are tending towards Trump, he just might be the next president, and boy , is he going to inherit a mess left to him, by the most incompetent jerk who ever resided in the rainbow house.

 

[Skylar]

We did not lose badly in the mid-terms. We lost exactly as expected in the Senate because of the geography of the seats that were up for election. For the same reason that the Dems will win the Senate back in 2016.

Remember that when liberals lose, they win, because no matter what they are delusional. After the government shutdown, the liberal lickspittle lapdog media had warned the Repub's that they were going to get a shellacking in the midterms and the Repub's took more seats. But it didn't matter for the Repukes went against the people and didn't stop Obummber from continuing of the desecration of America. So here we are with the Donald, who is going against the establishment, both (R) and (D) and the career politicians have no clue on what to do. Both republican and democratic voters are tending towards Trump, he just might be the next president, and boy , is he going to inherit a mess left to him, by the most incompetent jerk who ever resided in the rainbow house.

So the Republicans hitting the lowest approaval rating of any party in Gallup recording history is a *win* for republicans?

Hey, try it again. See how a government shut down works for you. I double dog dare you.

 

[Skylar]

A civil war just can't come out of nowhere. The U.S. government is stronger than it has ever been. A militia army would stand a chance against the U.S. armed forces that have drone, attack helicopters, satellite etc. Raising and army to fight the U.S. government would be tough. On top of that you have the mass spying and monitoring capabilities of the NSA, CIA and FBI. It would be very hard to organize or communicate.

So the guys that say they need their guns to protect themselves from the U.S. government are either fools or lying!

So there would have to be a few events: the generals in the army turn on the President, a major terrorist attack that destroys the U.S. infrastructure, a plague etc.


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Well, there is some middle ground. While the US army does have tanks and missiles and such that the people don't have, those are almost never used. 99.9999% of interactions between the public and the government are small arms. In a stand up war the 'militias' would obvious have their asses handed to them. But in pretty much any other lower level engagement it would be small arms v. small arms.

That being said, if any 'militia' started killings cops, soldiers and fire fighters in the name of their 'revolution', they'd have much more serious issue to content with. The vast swaths of a very well armed population that simply wouldn't put up with their shit. And would simply end them once they started their 'war'.

I'd give it about a day......a sunrise to sunset day.....before the very 'revolutionaries' that were shooting at cops and soldiers in the morning were begging the same for protection in the evening. As the very well armed and organized public would very simple cull the 'revolutionaries' with the same concern and afterthought one dedicates to putting down a rabid animal.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

We did not lose badly in the mid-terms. We lost exactly as expected in the Senate because of the geography of the seats that were up for election. For the same reason that the Dems will win the Senate back in 2016.

Remember that when liberals lose, they win, because no matter what they are delusional. After the government shutdown, the liberal lickspittle lapdog media had warned the Repub's that they were going to get a shellacking in the midterms and the Repub's took more seats. But it didn't matter for the Repukes went against the people and didn't stop Obummber from continuing of the desecration of America. So here we are with the Donald, who is going against the establishment, both (R) and (D) and the career politicians have no clue on what to do. Both republican and democratic voters are tending towards Trump, he just might be the next president, and boy , is he going to inherit a mess left to him, by the most incompetent jerk who ever resided in the rainbow house.

So the Republicans hitting the lowest approaval rating of any party in Gallup recording history is a *win* for republicans?

Hey, try it again. See how a government shut down works for you. I double dog dare you.

Parties Race To Use Shutdown For 2014 Leverage

Government Shutdown Sparks Race For 2014 Elections Leverage

Election 2014: Lessons from the GOP landslide in the Silver State

At the top of the ticket, the loss of the Senate, and roughly a dozen House seats, puts the Republicans in fairly firm control of the U.S. Congress heading into 2015.

When Obama closed the WW2 memorial to the veterans, then open it to the illegals for a rally, I think that helped put the nail in the coffin for Dirty Harry Ried(who made over 5 million dollars in shady land deals). So yeah, let Obama close the government again, because the butchers of babies will be defunded, more Americans will elect more Repubs for Senate and Congress, and Trump will be a shoe in.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

A civil war just can't come out of nowhere. The U.S. government is stronger than it has ever been. A militia army would stand a chance against the U.S. armed forces that have drone, attack helicopters, satellite etc. Raising and army to fight the U.S. government would be tough. On top of that you have the mass spying and monitoring capabilities of the NSA, CIA and FBI. It would be very hard to organize or communicate.

So the guys that say they need their guns to protect themselves from the U.S. government are either fools or lying!

So there would have to be a few events: the generals in the army turn on the President, a major terrorist attack that destroys the U.S. infrastructure, a plague etc.


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Well, there is some middle ground. While the US army does have tanks and missiles and such that the people don't have, those are almost never used. 99.9999% of interactions between the public and the government are small arms. In a stand up war the 'militias' would obvious have their asses handed to them. But in pretty much any other lower level engagement it would be small arms v. small arms.

That being said, if any 'militia' started killings cops, soldiers and fire fighters in the name of their 'revolution', they'd have much more serious issue to content with. The vast swaths of a very well armed population that simply wouldn't put up with their shit. And would simply end them once they started their 'war'.

I'd give it about a day......a sunrise to sunset day.....before the very 'revolutionaries' that were shooting at cops and soldiers in the morning were begging the same for protection in the evening. As the very well armed and organized public would very simple cull the 'revolutionaries' with the same concern and afterthought one dedicates to putting down a rabid animal.

You are very correct since liberals don't like guns, they probably don't have guns, so in their revolution will bring bricks or knives, while We the People will exercise our 2nd amendment and put down the liberal riot real quick. I for one have been prepping for the day, liberals will go outside the LAW.

 

[Skylar]

A civil war just can't come out of nowhere. The U.S. government is stronger than it has ever been. A militia army would stand a chance against the U.S. armed forces that have drone, attack helicopters, satellite etc. Raising and army to fight the U.S. government would be tough. On top of that you have the mass spying and monitoring capabilities of the NSA, CIA and FBI. It would be very hard to organize or communicate.

So the guys that say they need their guns to protect themselves from the U.S. government are either fools or lying!

So there would have to be a few events: the generals in the army turn on the President, a major terrorist attack that destroys the U.S. infrastructure, a plague etc.


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Well, there is some middle ground. While the US army does have tanks and missiles and such that the people don't have, those are almost never used. 99.9999% of interactions between the public and the government are small arms. In a stand up war the 'militias' would obvious have their asses handed to them. But in pretty much any other lower level engagement it would be small arms v. small arms.

That being said, if any 'militia' started killings cops, soldiers and fire fighters in the name of their 'revolution', they'd have much more serious issue to content with. The vast swaths of a very well armed population that simply wouldn't put up with their shit. And would simply end them once they started their 'war'.

I'd give it about a day......a sunrise to sunset day.....before the very 'revolutionaries' that were shooting at cops and soldiers in the morning were begging the same for protection in the evening. As the very well armed and organized public would very simple cull the 'revolutionaries' with the same concern and afterthought one dedicates to putting down a rabid animal.

You are very correct since liberals don't like guns, they probably don't have guns, so in their revolution will bring bricks or knives, while We the People will exercise our 2nd amendment and put down the liberal riot real quick. I for one have been prepping for the day, liberals will go outside the LAW.

Oh, plenty of liberals have guns. So do plenty of moderates. And independents. And even among conservatives those that would wage war against the US and kill our soldiers and law enforcement officers is a small fraction.

Its a fringe conservative fantasy that when their ilk 'rise up' and start killing cops in the name of the 'revolution' that the reaction of the people around them would be to join. In reality, they'd be horrified and enfuriated. As these cops and soldiers are our brothers, sisters, daughters and parents. We'd ******* end the little 'revolutionaries', with a bullet in the brain of each of the would-be cop killers.

And wouldn't give it more thought than taking out the trash.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

A civil war just can't come out of nowhere. The U.S. government is stronger than it has ever been. A militia army would stand a chance against the U.S. armed forces that have drone, attack helicopters, satellite etc. Raising and army to fight the U.S. government would be tough. On top of that you have the mass spying and monitoring capabilities of the NSA, CIA and FBI. It would be very hard to organize or communicate.

So the guys that say they need their guns to protect themselves from the U.S. government are either fools or lying!

So there would have to be a few events: the generals in the army turn on the President, a major terrorist attack that destroys the U.S. infrastructure, a plague etc.


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Well, there is some middle ground. While the US army does have tanks and missiles and such that the people don't have, those are almost never used. 99.9999% of interactions between the public and the government are small arms. In a stand up war the 'militias' would obvious have their asses handed to them. But in pretty much any other lower level engagement it would be small arms v. small arms.

That being said, if any 'militia' started killings cops, soldiers and fire fighters in the name of their 'revolution', they'd have much more serious issue to content with. The vast swaths of a very well armed population that simply wouldn't put up with their shit. And would simply end them once they started their 'war'.

I'd give it about a day......a sunrise to sunset day.....before the very 'revolutionaries' that were shooting at cops and soldiers in the morning were begging the same for protection in the evening. As the very well armed and organized public would very simple cull the 'revolutionaries' with the same concern and afterthought one dedicates to putting down a rabid animal.

You are very correct since liberals don't like guns, they probably don't have guns, so in their revolution will bring bricks or knives, while We the People will exercise our 2nd amendment and put down the liberal riot real quick. I for one have been prepping for the day, liberals will go outside the LAW.

Oh, plenty of liberals have guns. So do plenty of moderates. And independents. And even among conservatives those that would wage war against the US and kill our soldiers and law enforcement officers is a small fraction.

Its a fringe conservative fantasy that when their ilk 'rise up' and start killing cops in the name of the 'revolution' that the reaction of the people around them would be to join. In reality, they'd be horrified and enfuriated. As these cops and soldiers are our brothers, sisters, daughters and parents. We'd ******* end the little 'revolutionaries', with a bullet in the brain of each of the would-be cop killers.

And wouldn't give it more thought than taking out the trash.

Van Jones calls for complete revolution. Finally, Obama throws this vile communist a$$hole under the same bus he threw Rev. Wrong and his own grandmother under.

BREAKING: Al Sharpton Announces Nationwide Race Riots... Here's the List of Cities He's Targeting

BREAKING: Al Sharpton Announces Nationwide Race Riots… Here’s the List of Cities He’s Targeting

Louis Farrakhan Cites Koran, Calls for 10,000 to “Rise Up And Kill Those Who Kill Us”

Louis Farrakhan Cites Koran, Calls for 10,000 to “Rise Up And Kill Those Who Kill Us”
Incites murder of police, federal officials

When liberals start accusing Conservatives about trying to cause a problem, it is the liberals who are "ACTUALLY" doing what they say conservatives are going to do. Rules for Radicals is their playbook. Like I said, BRING IT ON, you will find many police and military are conservatives, who will not do what you liberals want to do. Bunch of dumbasses who vote liberal.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

New Black Panther leader: Kill white babies by bombing nurseries

New Black Panther leader: Kill white babies by bombing nurseries

Now why would another liberal organization want to kill WHITE babies? Isn't that being "RACIST"? I personally would have no trouble putting a .223 into one of these thugs.

 

[Skylar]

New Black Panther leader: Kill white babies by bombing nurseries

New Black Panther leader: Kill white babies by bombing nurseries

Now why would another liberal organization want to kill WHITE babies? Isn't that being "RACIST"? I personally would have no trouble putting a .223 into one of these thugs.

This was interesting:

In a video posted at Breitbart.com on Tuesday, a New Black Panther Leader identified by The Blaze as possibly being King Samir Shabazz, said that blacks will have to kill white babies “seconds” after they’re born, while suggesting bombing nurseries.

New Black Panther leader: Kill white babies by bombing nurseries

So he's the new black panther party leader......but they're not exactly sure who he is. He's 'possibly' King Samir Shabazz.

Possibly, huh? That's what you call baseless speculation that the article clearly can't back up.

 

[Skylar]

A civil war just can't come out of nowhere. The U.S. government is stronger than it has ever been. A militia army would stand a chance against the U.S. armed forces that have drone, attack helicopters, satellite etc. Raising and army to fight the U.S. government would be tough. On top of that you have the mass spying and monitoring capabilities of the NSA, CIA and FBI. It would be very hard to organize or communicate.

So the guys that say they need their guns to protect themselves from the U.S. government are either fools or lying!

So there would have to be a few events: the generals in the army turn on the President, a major terrorist attack that destroys the U.S. infrastructure, a plague etc.


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Well, there is some middle ground. While the US army does have tanks and missiles and such that the people don't have, those are almost never used. 99.9999% of interactions between the public and the government are small arms. In a stand up war the 'militias' would obvious have their asses handed to them. But in pretty much any other lower level engagement it would be small arms v. small arms.

That being said, if any 'militia' started killings cops, soldiers and fire fighters in the name of their 'revolution', they'd have much more serious issue to content with. The vast swaths of a very well armed population that simply wouldn't put up with their shit. And would simply end them once they started their 'war'.

I'd give it about a day......a sunrise to sunset day.....before the very 'revolutionaries' that were shooting at cops and soldiers in the morning were begging the same for protection in the evening. As the very well armed and organized public would very simple cull the 'revolutionaries' with the same concern and afterthought one dedicates to putting down a rabid animal.

You are very correct since liberals don't like guns, they probably don't have guns, so in their revolution will bring bricks or knives, while We the People will exercise our 2nd amendment and put down the liberal riot real quick. I for one have been prepping for the day, liberals will go outside the LAW.

Oh, plenty of liberals have guns. So do plenty of moderates. And independents. And even among conservatives those that would wage war against the US and kill our soldiers and law enforcement officers is a small fraction.

Its a fringe conservative fantasy that when their ilk 'rise up' and start killing cops in the name of the 'revolution' that the reaction of the people around them would be to join. In reality, they'd be horrified and enfuriated. As these cops and soldiers are our brothers, sisters, daughters and parents. We'd ******* end the little 'revolutionaries', with a bullet in the brain of each of the would-be cop killers.

And wouldn't give it more thought than taking out the trash.

Van Jones calls for complete revolution. Finally, Obama throws this vile communist a$$hole under the same bus he threw Rev. Wrong and his own grandmother under.

BREAKING: Al Sharpton Announces Nationwide Race Riots... Here's the List of Cities He's Targeting

BREAKING: Al Sharpton Announces Nationwide Race Riots… Here’s the List of Cities He’s Targeting

Louis Farrakhan Cites Koran, Calls for 10,000 to “Rise Up And Kill Those Who Kill Us”

Louis Farrakhan Cites Koran, Calls for 10,000 to “Rise Up And Kill Those Who Kill Us”
Incites murder of police, federal officials

When liberals start accusing Conservatives about trying to cause a problem, it is the liberals who are "ACTUALLY" doing what they say conservatives are going to do. Rules for Radicals is their playbook. Like I said, BRING IT ON, you will find many police and military are conservatives, who will not do what you liberals want to do. Bunch of dumbasses who vote liberal.

And you demonstrate yet again why there will be no 'civil war'. Your ilk are always giving us excuses why its someone else that has to fight. Not you. And wars aren't fought with 'soldiers' who have only excuses why they won't fight.

Its an 'army' of half assed Jeffersons. And not a Hamilton or Washington among them.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

A civil war just can't come out of nowhere. The U.S. government is stronger than it has ever been. A militia army would stand a chance against the U.S. armed forces that have drone, attack helicopters, satellite etc. Raising and army to fight the U.S. government would be tough. On top of that you have the mass spying and monitoring capabilities of the NSA, CIA and FBI. It would be very hard to organize or communicate.

So the guys that say they need their guns to protect themselves from the U.S. government are either fools or lying!

So there would have to be a few events: the generals in the army turn on the President, a major terrorist attack that destroys the U.S. infrastructure, a plague etc.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Well, there is some middle ground. While the US army does have tanks and missiles and such that the people don't have, those are almost never used. 99.9999% of interactions between the public and the government are small arms. In a stand up war the 'militias' would obvious have their asses handed to them. But in pretty much any other lower level engagement it would be small arms v. small arms.

That being said, if any 'militia' started killings cops, soldiers and fire fighters in the name of their 'revolution', they'd have much more serious issue to content with. The vast swaths of a very well armed population that simply wouldn't put up with their shit. And would simply end them once they started their 'war'.

I'd give it about a day......a sunrise to sunset day.....before the very 'revolutionaries' that were shooting at cops and soldiers in the morning were begging the same for protection in the evening. As the very well armed and organized public would very simple cull the 'revolutionaries' with the same concern and afterthought one dedicates to putting down a rabid animal.

You are very correct since liberals don't like guns, they probably don't have guns, so in their revolution will bring bricks or knives, while We the People will exercise our 2nd amendment and put down the liberal riot real quick. I for one have been prepping for the day, liberals will go outside the LAW.

Oh, plenty of liberals have guns. So do plenty of moderates. And independents. And even among conservatives those that would wage war against the US and kill our soldiers and law enforcement officers is a small fraction.

Its a fringe conservative fantasy that when their ilk 'rise up' and start killing cops in the name of the 'revolution' that the reaction of the people around them would be to join. In reality, they'd be horrified and enfuriated. As these cops and soldiers are our brothers, sisters, daughters and parents. We'd ******* end the little 'revolutionaries', with a bullet in the brain of each of the would-be cop killers.

And wouldn't give it more thought than taking out the trash.

Van Jones calls for complete revolution. Finally, Obama throws this vile communist a$$hole under the same bus he threw Rev. Wrong and his own grandmother under.

BREAKING: Al Sharpton Announces Nationwide Race Riots... Here's the List of Cities He's Targeting

BREAKING: Al Sharpton Announces Nationwide Race Riots… Here’s the List of Cities He’s Targeting

Louis Farrakhan Cites Koran, Calls for 10,000 to “Rise Up And Kill Those Who Kill Us”

Louis Farrakhan Cites Koran, Calls for 10,000 to “Rise Up And Kill Those Who Kill Us”
Incites murder of police, federal officials

When liberals start accusing Conservatives about trying to cause a problem, it is the liberals who are "ACTUALLY" doing what they say conservatives are going to do. Rules for Radicals is their playbook. Like I said, BRING IT ON, you will find many police and military are conservatives, who will not do what you liberals want to do. Bunch of dumbasses who vote liberal.

And you demonstrate yet again why there will be no 'civil war'. Your ilk are always giving us excuses why its someone else that has to fight. Not you. And wars aren't fought with 'soldiers' who have only excuses why they won't fight.

Its an 'army' of half assed Jeffersons. And not a Hamilton or Washington among them.

Seems that the secular BIGOTS of the left are at it again, and the liberal lickspittle lapdog media just turns a blind eye on the events. Could this be more pressure that Obama wants to get the black people to react and go rioting again?

6 Black Churches in Ferguson Burned Down in 10 Days

 

[Delta4Embassy]

... or is that alarmist?
Even the "gay marriage" is aligning South vs. North...or no?

Would rule out the possibility of a cops vs not-cops thing.

 

[Bonzi]

Not sure what the division is or the most MAJOR division is in this country.
Right now it seems mostly political because of the election next year.....

But there are definitely divisions and subdivisions. Certainly NOT what our forefathers had in mind......

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Five wounded in stabbing rampage at California college

Five students were stabbed Wednesday at the University of California, Merced, and the suspect was fatally shot by police, the school said.

Good thing that a good guy with a gun was able to stop the minority from hurting others. Why would I say this? Because if it was a WHITE MALE, there would be a picture of the perp, and the story would be how the white guy stabbed this person and stabbed that person. Ah well, lets see if it was an illegal, and watch the story disappear, like the illegal who shot the girl in San Fran. Oh you forgot about that? That is why liberals end up getting the vote, how easy you all forget.

 

[Skylar]

Five wounded in stabbing rampage at California college

Five students were stabbed Wednesday at the University of California, Merced, and the suspect was fatally shot by police, the school said.

Good thing that a good guy with a gun was able to stop the minority from hurting others. Why would I say this? Because if it was a WHITE MALE, there would be a picture of the perp, and the story would be how the white guy stabbed this person and stabbed that person. Ah well, lets see if it was an illegal, and watch the story disappear, like the illegal who shot the girl in San Fran. Oh you forgot about that? That is why liberals end up getting the vote, how easy you all forget.

Wow.......that post should come with a shambling walk and a long moan of 'Braaaaaains'.

As that's quite the zombie thread you're trying to reanimate.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Five wounded in stabbing rampage at California college

Five students were stabbed Wednesday at the University of California, Merced, and the suspect was fatally shot by police, the school said.

Good thing that a good guy with a gun was able to stop the minority from hurting others. Why would I say this? Because if it was a WHITE MALE, there would be a picture of the perp, and the story would be how the white guy stabbed this person and stabbed that person. Ah well, lets see if it was an illegal, and watch the story disappear, like the illegal who shot the girl in San Fran. Oh you forgot about that? That is why liberals end up getting the vote, how easy you all forget.

Wow.......that post should come with a shambling walk and a long moan of 'Braaaaaains'.

As that's quite the zombie thread you're trying to reanimate.

Looks like I was quite right, that it WASNT a white guy. Just another Lone Wolf, who smiled as he hacked up innocent people who just wanted to live their lives in peace. The religion of peace hard at work. And to think Obama is going to INVITE in 200,000 more of these guys from Syria. Faisal Mohammad identified as mass stabber at California college

MERCED, Calif. — The male student killed by campus police after he stabbed four people at University of California, Merced, has been identified as freshman Faisal Mohammad, school officials said Thursday.

Later in the article the NEWS reporter says that authorities are trying to figure out why this guy would do what he did. Just shows how ******* stupid liberal news orgs are. By the way, it took good guys with guns to kill this bad guy.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

This U.S. city has become the first to elect a Muslim-majority city council

But the Muslim population in Hamtramck has grown steadily due to immigration, said University of Michigan-Dearborn associate professor Sally Howell, who has written a book on Michigan and U.S. Muslims. Dearborn has many Arab-American immigrants, but Hamtramck likely became the first city to have a Muslim-majority population in 2013. She estimates that about 50 percent of the city is made up of Muslims, and the city has at least seven mosques, more mosques per capita than anywhere else in the country.

“The growth is taking place in these Muslim communities, and they are transforming the city scape,” Howell said. “It’s become much more visible in the last 15 years.”

This is very disturbing news. I thought religion and government was supposed to be separated? I remember some liberal complaining that they would not want a Mormon in office because he would force his religion on the rest of US. Double standards? Without them liberals would have no standards at all. Of course a Mormon wouldn't cut your head off, if you didn't like his policies, where with a Muslim........