Is a libertarian is essentially a slow conservative?

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Is a libertarian is essentially a slow conservative?
Yes, a liberal finds government power to be magical when applied to any problem, a libertarian finds government makes all problems worse, and conservatives are in the middle finding government power make the economy worse and the soul better.

 

[Natural Citizen]

To be libertarian is to be against the anti-moral precept of government-over-man.

Very, very few modern conservatives value the libertarian ideal. Most modern conservatives are just as rebidly statist as those on the so-called left that they themselves call statist.

To be conservative, though, you first have to ask what the proper role of government should be. That's the first thing. The Founders asked the question, they had a revolution and they wrote a constitution. What they decided was that the proper role of the federal government was to protect liberty, and the Constitution is reflective of this.

If we want to be good coservatives we have a very good guide. It's the Constitution.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

No

any reason???

 

[Moonglow]

The libertarian is the frustrated ugly stepchild of the GOP

 

[BluesLegend]

LOL this thread won't end well

 

[whitehall]

In case you didn't notice, the "libertarian" movement was hijacked by the pot heads. Libertarians are officially the lead political drug legalization party.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Very, very few modern conservative value the libertarian isdeal .Mose modern conservatives are just as rebidly statist as those on the so-called left.

obviously not true even Trump made huge cuts to taxes and regulations

 

[fncceo]

A Libertarian is a conservative that likes to party!

 

[Natural Citizen]

obviously not true even Trump made huge cuts to taxes and regulations

What? What do you mean obviously not?

Trump gave you a regressive tax hike. Not a tax cut. The GOP adopted Chained CPI into their tax bill.

Do you know what that means?

 

[BluesLegend]

Very, very few modern conservative value the libertarian isdeal .Mose modern conservatives are just as rebidly statist as those on the so-called left.

obviously not true even Trump made huge cuts to taxes and regulations

HUGE you meant to say.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

To be conservative, though, you first have to ask what the proper role of government should be. That;s the forst thing. The Founders asked the question, the had a revolution and they wrote a constitution. What they decided was that the proper role of government was to protect liberty, and the Constitution is reflective of this.

If we want to be good coservatives we have a very good guide. It's the Constitution.

problem is liberals killed God so now govt has to step in as the source of morality. Founders did have to worry about this problem because church was very strong then and taken for granted.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

obviously not true even Trump made huge cuts to taxes and regulations

What? What do you mean obviously not?

Trump gave you a tax hike. Not a tax cut. The GOP adopted Chained CPI into their tax bill.

Do you know what that means?

it doesn't matter the intention was to cut taxes and regulations while Democrats opposed. Even Trump would do a lot more if Democrats were not 100% for raising taxes

 

[bripat9643]

To be libertarian is to be against the of government-over-man.

Very, very few modern conservative value the libertarian ideal. Most modern conservatives are just as rebidly statist as those on the so-called left that they themselves call statist.

To be conservative, though, you first have to ask what the proper role of government should be. That;s the forst thing. The Founders asked the question, the had a revolution and they wrote a constitution. What they decided was that the proper role of government was to protect liberty, and the Constitution is reflective of this.

If we want to be good coservatives we have a very good guide. It's the Constitution.

Unfortunately the Founders didn't realize that that concept of "limited government" is an oxymoron.

 

[Moonglow]

In case you didn't notice, the "libertarian" movement was hijacked by the pot heads. Libertarians are officially the lead political drug legalization party.

And who says the pothead coalition doesn't get things done..??

 

[Moonglow]

To be libertarian is to be against the of government-over-man.

Very, very few modern conservative value the libertarian ideal. Most modern conservatives are just as rebidly statist as those on the so-called left that they themselves call statist.

To be conservative, though, you first have to ask what the proper role of government should be. That;s the forst thing. The Founders asked the question, the had a revolution and they wrote a constitution. What they decided was that the proper role of government was to protect liberty, and the Constitution is reflective of this.

If we want to be good coservatives we have a very good guide. It's the Constitution.

Unfortunately the Founders didn't realize that that concept of "limited government" is an oxymoron.

Especially for the slaves..

 

[fncceo]

To be libertarian is to be against the of government-over-man.

Very, very few modern conservative value the libertarian ideal. Most modern conservatives are just as rebidly statist as those on the so-called left that they themselves call statist.

To be conservative, though, you first have to ask what the proper role of government should be. That;s the forst thing. The Founders asked the question, the had a revolution and they wrote a constitution. What they decided was that the proper role of government was to protect liberty, and the Constitution is reflective of this.

If we want to be good coservatives we have a very good guide. It's the Constitution.

Unfortunately the Founders didn't realize that that concept of "limited government" is an oxymoron.

Limited government is possible, but can't be maintained without strict limitations on government power.

Maintenance of the courts, the ability to enforce a contract by legal means, and the defense of right to property are all legitimate powers that can only be be guaranteed by government.

 

[Moonglow]

To be conservative, though, you first have to ask what the proper role of government should be. That;s the forst thing. The Founders asked the question, the had a revolution and they wrote a constitution. What they decided was that the proper role of government was to protect liberty, and the Constitution is reflective of this.

If we want to be good coservatives we have a very good guide. It's the Constitution.

problem is liberals killed God so now govt has to step in as the source of morality. Founders did have to worry about this problem because church was very strong then and taken for granted.

Church/govt. same thing..Both can be sources of abuse.

 

[Pogo]

LOL this thread won't end well

With Special Ed that's a given.

Fun fact: Thomas Jefferson invented the Libertarian Party, 135 years before his own birth.

 

[Moonglow]

LOL this thread won't end well

With Special Ed that's a given.

Fun fact: Thomas Jefferson invented the Libertarian Party, 135 years before his own birth.

Except he was a supporter of public education and the press..

 

[Pogo]

LOL this thread won't end well

With Special Ed that's a given.

Fun fact: Thomas Jefferson invented the Libertarian Party, 135 years before his own birth.

Except he was a supporter of public education and the press..

It's an inside joke. Special Ed has sat on this board and claimed TJ invented the Republican Party, 28 years after his own death -- so I figured I'd get the jump on whatever cockamamie history he comes up with here.