Iran Opens Strait of Hormuz

[Darkwind]

oil prices are plummeting ..

Yep, so in six months or so, the gas prices should drop, too!

Up like a rocket, down like a balloon.

 

[mudwhistle]

The Strait was open before Trump and Netanyahu decided to attack Iran.

Why do you give Trump credit for ending a mess he created?

Not until you Democrats admit you shut down the government and threw open our borders, which caused the ICE problem.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

What did America win exactly?? The strait was open before Iran was attacked

1. The world economy is on the verge of recession
2. There was no regime change in Iran
3. The people are still oppressed and now are suffering from the bombing
4. Iran still have numerous drones and missiles
5. Iran still has its uranium and has not disavowed making a bomb
6. Iran is still supporting Hamas and its other proxy militias
7. The US military is over extended and munitions are depleted.
8. NATO has been undermined and weakened and America is no longer a trusted ally
9. China has broadly benefited strategically and economically from the Iran war, observing U.S. military tactics, strengthening its influence, and advancing its green technology dominance despite energy risks
10. The US pissed away billions and billions of dollars at the expense of taxpayers and domestic needs . What happened to America first?

Disagree https://www.usmessageboard.com/members/darkwind.19727/ ?? Please explain which of the points that I made are not correct

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

What did America win exactly?? The strait was open before Iran was attacked

1. The world economy is on the verge of recession
2. There was no regime change in Iran
3. The people are still oppressed and now are suffering from the bombing
4. Iran still have numerous drones and missiles
5. Iran still has its uranium and has not disavowed making a bomb
6. Iran is still supporting Hamas and its other proxy militias
7. The US military is over extended and munitions are depleted.
8. NATO has been undermined and weakened and America is no longer a trusted ally
9. China has broadly benefited strategically and economically from the Iran war, observing U.S. military tactics, strengthening its influence, and advancing its green technology dominance despite energy risks
10. The US pissed away billions and billions of dollars at the expense of taxpayers and domestic needs . What happened to America first?

Diagree https://www.usmessageboard.com/members/westwall.23239/ Which of my points do you disagree with? Which are not true

 

[IM2]

Not until you Democrats admit you shut down the government and threw open our borders, which caused the ICE problem.

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It has been said that when Obama left office border crossings were at a more than 3 decade low.

“In fiscal year 2017, the last year of the Obama administration and the first of Trump’s, 303,916 migrants were arrested by the Border Patrol. This was the lowest level in more than three decades. The Clinton, Bush and Obama administrations had worked hard to tackle the problem of illegal migration through substantial increases in border security staffing, improvements in technology, innovations in strategy and improved security coordination and assistance to Mexico. Coupled with improved economic conditions in Mexico, these administrations were hugely successful in deterring and breaking the cycle of illegal crossing: Unlawful Mexican economic immigration, which had historically been the primary immigration enforcement issue at the border, dropped nearly 90 percent between 2000 and 2016.”

So how did border crossings go from a 40-year low in 2017 to a crisis in 2021? Alan Bersin, former Commissioner of U.S. Customs and Border Protection/Assistant Secretary and Chief diplomatic officer for the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, Nate Bruggeman, Fomer Policy Staff for the Department of Homeland Security and Customs and Border Protection, and Ben Rohrbaugh former Director for Enforcement and Border Security at the National Security Council, wrote an article published in Politico on April 5, 2019 titled: Yes, There’s a Crisis on the Border. And It’s Trump’s Fault. In this article, the authors argue that President Trump's singular focus on constructing a border wall—regarded as a vanity project—rather than addressing and reforming the asylum system contributed to the challenges at the border witnessed during President Biden's term.

“Despite the administration’s attempts to shift blame for the chaos, make no mistake: It is Donald Trump himself who is responsible. Through misguided policies, political stunts and a failure of leadership, the president has created the conditions that allowed the asylum problem at the border to explode into a crisis. The solution to our current border troubles lies in reforming the U.S. asylum system and immigration courts and helping Central America address its challenges—not in a “big beautiful” wall or shutting down the border. Yet effective action on these issues has been missing. And the president has now so poisoned the political well with his approach that there is little hope of meaningful congressional action until after the next election. Unless the administration changes course, the immigration crisis will only continue to worsen.”

These words were written nearly 2 years before Biden was sworn into office on January 20th, 2021. Donald Trump was warned in 2019 that he needed to change the focus of his immigration policy, but he did not.

Trump sabotaged a strong bipartisan immigration bill worked on by Republican James Lankford and Kyrsten Sinema, and then used the problem he increased as a campaign issue an you stupid, uninformed idiots fell for it. So nobody has to admit what you have made up. The fact is that Trump started a war that caused the Strait to be closed, and he does not deserve credit for it being reopened.

 

[luiza]

Iran was the threat so, to that extent, they opened it.

WRONG
It's full of mines and if the Cheeky Chappies decide to barely move on removing them or identifying their exact position , the Strait remains shut .


It's just another scripted move .
An intermission period .

 

[yidnar]

Yep, so in six months or so, the gas prices should drop, too!

Up like a rocket, down like a balloon.

nah ..the increase was due to the conflict and the strait .. it appears that it may be over with the democrat and their islomofascist allies defeat ..

 

[TimFitz]

Can't wait to hear how the dumocraps blame this on Trump. My guess, now they want the strait closed and boots on the ground.

He started the war and created the crisis.

He doesn’t get a win for making a mess.

 

[luiza]

But US blockade is still in effect

Trump (and America) win another round

WRONG
The Strait is mined and remains closed until Iran at minimum identifies mine positions and / or helps remove these fireworks .
The Cease Fire ends Wednesday and I feel sure the Cheeky Chappies will be as cleverly obstructive until then as seems sensible to them .


Just another scripted Intermission period .
Go get an ice cream etc until things start again .

 

[TimFitz]

Trump trumped the mullahs here. They closed the strait, and Trump said fine, and the US Navy closed it tighter that the President's rear end. It only took a few days to bring Tehran to its senses.

Trump and Netanyahu created the crisis in the first place.

This was all totally unnecessary and unprovoked.

Solving a problem that you caused is not a victory, except perhaps over the Fool in the White House’s own stupidity.

Trump caused $4.25 gas. Trump is the reason there is gas rationing and emergency energy conservation in Asia.

Trump is the cause of US servicemen’s deaths.

None of this would have happened without him.

The Trump cult will play the short memory game.

Nobody else will.

But he can “shore up” his image by portraying himself as Jesus Christ.

I won’t be at all surprised when he claims to be a peacemaker after starting a war,.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

oil prices are plummeting ..

My local gouging Exxon just dropped $.06 in the past 1/2 hour.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

WRONG
It's full of mines and if the Cheeky Chappies decide to barely move on removing them or identifying their exact position , the Strait remains shut .


It's just another scripted move .
An intermission period .

When is your time-bomb scheduled to explode?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Iran didn't have much choice. They've played their last card

 

[jknowgood]

The Strait was open before Trump and Netanyahu decided to attack Iran.

Why do you give Trump credit for ending a mess he created?

He neutralized Iran. A win for the world.

He started the war and created the crisis.

He doesn’t get a win for making a mess.

Trump made the world safer, we had to pay more for gas for a couple of weeks. It was worth it. I mean we paid high gas prices under Biden for four years, because he wanted to force us. To buy EVs.

 

[yidnar]

My local gouging Exxon just dropped $.06 in the past 1/2 hour.

not surprising since the reason gas surged was because of an acute action .. not a policy , or supply problem .. hence the lefts claim that it will take gas prices a year or more to come down is wrong ..

 

[Mac-7]

He started the war and created the crisis.

He doesn’t get a win for making a mess.

I think you will know how wrong you are in about a week

 

[yidnar]

He neutralized Iran. A win for the world.

Trump made the world safer, we had to pay more for gas for a couple of weeks. It was worth it. I mean we paid high gas prices under Biden for four years, because he wanted to force us. To buy EVs.

and we paid even higher gas prices under Biden ! much much higher !

 

[struth]

I love how all of the reports say that Iran opened it, I guess they just asked nicely for the US Navy to move their ships and the US Navy complied with their say so.

Yes. because they opened the Straits. Being nice gets you far in life

 

[SeaMajor7]

He started the war and created the crisis.

He doesn’t get a win for making a mess.

No, he just ENDED the war started by the ISLAMIC REGIME 47 YEARS AGO, you ******* retarded asshole.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

I mean we paid high gas prices under Biden for four years, because he wanted to force us. To buy EVs.

Obama did the same thing before Biden.