Iran Gets Major Economic Lifeline for Minimal Concessions in Initial Deal

[Bleipriester]

EXCEPT THATS LITERALLY NOT IN THE SIGNED AGREEMENT. Look at what they actually did not what they said.

Yes, it is. The agreement does not only halt the current war, it also rules out new wars in the future.

Agreement in full, it is in Point 1 and Point 8.

MSN

 

[Zincwarrior]

Yes, it is. The agreement does not only halt the current war, it also rules out new wars in the future.

Agreement in full, it is in Point 1 and Point 8.

MSN

CITE IT. CITE THE WORDS.

 

[rightwinger]

Actually China should be nervous too. This means the giant military they are ramping up can be thwarted by any third world power with cheap drones. Taiwan was watching too. In a year they could be making 10,000 drones a month if they wanted.

Just look at what Ukraine did to Russia

 

[Bleipriester]

CITE IT. CITE THE WORDS.

I did. Again:

Point 1: The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran and their allies in the current war by signing this MOU, declare the immediate and permanent termination of military operations on all fronts, including in Lebanon, and undertake from now on not to initiate any war or any military operation against each other, and to refrain from the threat or use of force against each other, and ensuring the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Lebanon. The final deal will confirm the permanent termination of the war on all fronts, including in Lebanon and other provisions of this paragraph.


Point 8: The Islamic Republic of Iran reaffirms that it shall not procure or develop nuclear weapons. The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran have agreed to resolve the disposition of stockpiled enriched material, pursuant to a mechanism that will be mutually agreed upon in accordance with the schedule mentioned in paragraph seven, with the minimum methodology to be down. Blending on site under the supervision of the IAEA. The two parties also agreed to discuss the issue of enrichment and other mutually agreed matters related to the Islamic Republic of Iran's nuclear needs, based on a satisfactory framework being agreed upon in the final deal. The final deal will confirm the provisions of this paragraph. The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran acknowledge the critical importance of the nuclear issues above mentioned, and expressed their intention to immediately address these issues in the negotiations in order to achieve mutual agreement on them.

 

[rightwinger]

I did. Again:

Point 1: The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran and their allies in the current war by signing this MOU, declare the immediate and permanent termination of military operations on all fronts, including in Lebanon, and undertake from now on not to initiate any war or any military operation against each other, and to refrain from the threat or use of force against each other, and ensuring the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Lebanon. The final deal will confirm the permanent termination of the war on all fronts, including in Lebanon and other provisions of this paragraph.


Point 8: The Islamic Republic of Iran reaffirms that it shall not procure or develop nuclear weapons. The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran have agreed to resolve the disposition of stockpiled enriched material, pursuant to a mechanism that will be mutually agreed upon in accordance with the schedule mentioned in paragraph seven, with the minimum methodology to be down. Blending on site under the supervision of the IAEA. The two parties also agreed to discuss the issue of enrichment and other mutually agreed matters related to the Islamic Republic of Iran's nuclear needs, based on a satisfactory framework being agreed upon in the final deal. The final deal will confirm the provisions of this paragraph. The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran acknowledge the critical importance of the nuclear issues above mentioned, and expressed their intention to immediately address these issues in the negotiations in order to achieve mutual agreement on them.

Funny how MAGA is now willing to take Irans word

 

[Bleipriester]

Funny how MAGA is now willing to take Irans word

How could an agreement be made another way? Remember: if these points are being violated, the USA and Iran immediately return to war.

 

[rightwinger]

How could an agreement be made another way? Remember: if these points are being violated, the USA and Iran immediately return to war.

Yea right

Iran will just close the Strait and Trump will come crawling back

 

[Bleipriester]

Yea right

Iran will just close the Strait and Trump will come crawling back

Nope. The agreement says Iran will ensure the free, and duty free, travel of commercial vessels, and in coordination with Oman. Why don´t you read it yourself? The "experts" apparently lie to you.

 

[Lockback]

Nope. The agreement says Iran will ensure the free, and duty free, travel of commercial vessels, and in coordination with Oman. Why don´t you read it yourself? The "experts" apparently lie to you.

Correct.
They'd rather believe lies than do some research.

 

[OldFlame]

Trump had a losing hand and nothing to bargain with

Trump surrendered to Iran and gave them the Strait

Sez the propaganda troll. lol

 

[OldFlame]

Iran does not need a nuclear weapon as a deterrent

They have the Strait and closing it does more economic damage than. Nuke ever will

Who should control it?

 

[rightwinger]

Sez the propaganda troll. lol

Let’s see what Republicans have to say

The Core Claims from Republicans
A powerful contingent of conservative figures, commentators, and lawmakers argue that Trump caved on his previous demand for Iran's "unconditional surrender". They contend that the White House gave up too much strategic leverage for too little in return. [1, 2, 3, 4]
Key Republican criticisms center on the following arguments:

• "American Surrender": Well-known conservative radio host Erick Erickson openly stated that "Trump has surrendered to Iran," adding that "those who kill Americans love this deal." [1, 2]
• Reassembling the Obama Deal: Figures like former George W. Bush aide Marc Thiessen and Senator Lindsey Graham noted with concern that the framework mirrors the 2015 JCPOA nuclear agreement—which Trump famously tore up during his first term. Senator Graham publicly called the initial details "awful" and expressed severe skepticism that a verifiable nuclear peace agreement can ever be reached with the Iranian regime. [1, 2, 3, 4]
• "Worst Foreign Policy Blunder in Decades": Louisiana Senator Bill Cassidy harshly condemned the deal, stating that "Reagan is rolling over in his grave." Cassidy pointed out that before the war, Iran was being crushed by sanctions, but under the new agreement, sanctions will be lifted, and Iran's nuclear ambitions remain uncurbed. [1]
• The $300 Billion Reconstruction Fund: Lawmakers like North Carolina Senator Thom Tillis expressed sharp concern over Vice President JD Vance's confirmation that the agreement paves the way for a $300 billion fund to finance Iran’s recovery. [1, 2, 3]

 

[rightwinger]

Who should control it?

Used to be open didn’t it?

 

[OldFlame]

Yea right

Iran will just close the Strait and Trump will come crawling back

How will they 'close the straight', explain the logistics.

 

[OldFlame]

Used to be open didn’t it?

Who should control it?

 

[rightwinger]

Who should control it?

Nobody
That is the way it was for a hundred years…..BEFORE TRUMP

 

[OldFlame]

Let’s see what Republicans have to say

The Core Claims from Republicans
A powerful contingent of conservative figures, commentators, and lawmakers argue that Trump caved on his previous demand for Iran's "unconditional surrender". They contend that the White House gave up too much strategic leverage for too little in return. [1, 2, 3, 4]
Key Republican criticisms center on the following arguments:

• "American Surrender": Well-known conservative radio host Erick Erickson openly stated that "Trump has surrendered to Iran," adding that "those who kill Americans love this deal." [1, 2]
• Reassembling the Obama Deal: Figures like former George W. Bush aide Marc Thiessen and Senator Lindsey Graham noted with concern that the framework mirrors the 2015 JCPOA nuclear agreement—which Trump famously tore up during his first term. Senator Graham publicly called the initial details "awful" and expressed severe skepticism that a verifiable nuclear peace agreement can ever be reached with the Iranian regime. [1, 2, 3, 4]
• "Worst Foreign Policy Blunder in Decades": Louisiana Senator Bill Cassidy harshly condemned the deal, stating that "Reagan is rolling over in his grave." Cassidy pointed out that before the war, Iran was being crushed by sanctions, but under the new agreement, sanctions will be lifted, and Iran's nuclear ambitions remain uncurbed. [1]
• The $300 Billion Reconstruction Fund: Lawmakers like North Carolina Senator Thom Tillis expressed sharp concern over Vice President JD Vance's confirmation that the agreement paves the way for a $300 billion fund to finance Iran’s recovery. [1, 2, 3]

Nice recap of the Fox News article, you have 5 or 6 people making comments, never even heard of Erickson.

 

[OldFlame]

Nobody
That is the way it was for a hundred years…..BEFORE TRUMP

So Iran didn't control it prior to Trump?

 

[rightwinger]

How will they 'close the straight', explain the logistics.

Tens of thousands of drones

But they closed it without firing a shot
Just the threat and insurance companies will stop the ships

 

[OldFlame]

Tens of thousands of drones

But they closed it without firing a shot
Just the threat and insurance companies will stop the ships

Yet the US Navy has been there for months keeping it closed to Iranian ports.