So not only are they and you playing games with the starting date, they and you are playing games with the ending date. Their errors are getting progressively worse. And you and them lack the honesty to admit it.
IPCC Issues Bleakest Warning Yet- Only Small Window Left to Save Planet
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Spencer is the only one playing games with start dates. He's fucking famous for it. His science is so fucked up in general that no one listens to him anymore about anything. Except John Christy. But I think they may have a more intimate relationship going on
Look at the graphs. They are saying the exact same thing. In fact, if you look at the last year on your graph - which is ridiculously limited to 2014 - and compare it to Spencer's graph at 2014, Spencer's graph shows a less ridiculous worst case model. So if anything, Spencer is being conservative in his presentation of these ridiculously inaccurate forecasts which are progressively getting worse. For crying out loud even the IPCC is aware of how horribly wrong their models are and has discussed moderating their projections because of it. So don't act like this is some new thing. It's not. Apparently everyone knows it but you.
You really are being disingenuous. You should be ashamed.
Stop Using 'Too Hot' Climate Models, Says Nature Commentary
Too many climate researchers are making unrealistically dire projections about the future consequences of man-made climate change based on computer models
reason.com
Science Under Attack
The weaknesses of computer climate models – in particular their exaggeration of global warming’s impact – have long been denied or downplayed by modelers. But in a recent about-face published in the prestigious scientific journal Nature , a group of prominent climate scientists tell us it’s t
www.scienceunderattack.com
Guest post: How climate scientists should handle ‘hot models’ - Carbon Brief
The latest “CMIP6” generation of climate models includes a subset of “hot models” that have high climate sensitivity.
www.carbonbrief.org
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
www.bloomberg.com
Hooray! Some Scientists Honestly Reporting That Climate Models Run “Too Hot” - ClimateRealism
In a new report, some climate scientists are putting the brakes on future warming and say other researchers should avoid suspect climate models. This research confirms what Climate Realism first reported in August 2021, the climate model Representative Concentration Pathway 8.5 (RCP8.5) produces...
climaterealism.com
Why don't you point out which one of these links shows someone besides Spencer fucking around with model start dates.You really are being disingenuous. You should be ashamed.
Stop Using 'Too Hot' Climate Models, Says Nature Commentary
Too many climate researchers are making unrealistically dire projections about the future consequences of man-made climate change based on computer models
Science Under Attack
The weaknesses of computer climate models – in particular their exaggeration of global warming’s impact – have long been denied or downplayed by modelers. But in a recent about-face published in the prestigious scientific journal Nature , a group of prominent climate scientists tell us it’s t
Guest post: How climate scientists should handle ‘hot models’ - Carbon Brief
The latest “CMIP6” generation of climate models includes a subset of “hot models” that have high climate sensitivity.
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
www.bloomberg.com
Hooray! Some Scientists Honestly Reporting That Climate Models Run “Too Hot” - ClimateRealism
In a new report, some climate scientists are putting the brakes on future warming and say other researchers should avoid suspect climate models. This research confirms what Climate Realism first reported in August 2021, the climate model Representative Concentration Pathway 8.5 (RCP8.5) produces...
Roy Spencer just graphed up their model outputs and compared it to satellite measurements. It's pretty amazing that you accuse him of lying.
Why aren't you aware that their models are running hot. Everyone else is.
I accuse him of lying because he is guilty of lying.
The articles at these links refer to two different cases of Spencer fucking with models.
RealClimate: How to cook a graph in three easy lessons
RealClimate: These days, when global warming inactivists need to trot out somebody with some semblance of scientific credentials (from the dwindling supply who have made themselves available for such purposes), it seems that they increasingly turn to Roy Spencer, a Principal Research Scientist...
www.realclimate.org
Roy Spencer's latest deceit and deception
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U.N.-Backed Banker Alliance Announces “Green” Plan to Transform the Global Financial System
U.N.-Backed Banker Alliance Announces “Green” Plan to Transform the Global Financial System
The most powerful private financial interests in the world, under the cover of COP26, have developed a plan to transform the global financial system by fusing with institutions such as the World Bank and using them to further erode national sovereignty in the developing world.
www.rcreader.com
"The most powerful private financial interests in the world, under the cover of COP26, have developed a plan to transform the global financial system by fusing with institutions such as the World Bank and using them to further erode national sovereignty in the developing world.
On November 3, an “industry-led and UN-convened” alliance of private banking and financial institutions announced plans at the COP26 conference to overhaul the role of global and regional financial institutions, including the World Bank and IMF, as part of a broader plan to “transform” the global financial system. The officially stated purpose of this proposed overhaul, per alliance members, is to promote the transition to a “net zero” economy. However, the group’s proposed “re-imagining” of international financial institutions, according to their recently published “progress report,” would also move to merge these institutions with the private-banking interests that compose the alliance; create a new system of “global financial governance”; and erode national sovereignty among developing countries by forcing them to establish business environments deemed “friendly” to the interests of alliance members. In other words, the powerful banking interests that compose this group are pushing to recreate the entire global financial system for their benefit under the guise of promoting sustainability.
This alliance, called the Glasgow Financial Alliance for Net Zero (GFANZ), was launched in April by John Kerry, U.S. Special Presidential Envoy for Climate Change; Janet Yellen, U.S. Secretary of the Treasury and former chair of the Federal Reserve; and Mark Carney, U.N. Special Envoy for Climate Action and Finance and former chair of the Bank of England and Bank of Canada. Carney, who is also the U.K. prime minister’s Finance Advisor for the COP26 conference, currently co-chairs the alliance with U.S. billionaire and former mayor of New York City, Michael Bloomberg."
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". . . Today, MDBs are used as “instruments of power” that utilize debt to force developing nations to implement policies that benefit foreign interests rather than their own national interests. If GFANZ gets its way, the MDBs of tomorrow will be used to essentially eliminate national sovereignty, privatize the “natural assets” (e.g., ecosystems, ecological processes) of the developing world, and force increasingly technocratic policies designed by global governance institutions and think tanks on ever more disenfranchised populations.
Though GFANZ has cloaked itself in lofty rhetoric of “saving the planet,” its plans ultimately amount to a corporate-led coup that will make the global financial system even more corrupt and predatory and further reduce the sovereignty of national governments in the developing world."
U.N.-Backed Banker Alliance Announces “Green” Plan to Transform the Global Financial System
U.N.-Backed Banker Alliance Announces “Green” Plan to Transform the Global Financial System
The most powerful private financial interests in the world, under the cover of COP26, have developed a plan to transform the global financial system by fusing with institutions such as the World Bank and using them to further erode national sovereignty in the developing world.
"The most powerful private financial interests in the world, under the cover of COP26, have developed a plan to transform the global financial system by fusing with institutions such as the World Bank and using them to further erode national sovereignty in the developing world.
On November 3, an “industry-led and UN-convened” alliance of private banking and financial institutions announced plans at the COP26 conference to overhaul the role of global and regional financial institutions, including the World Bank and IMF, as part of a broader plan to “transform” the global financial system. The officially stated purpose of this proposed overhaul, per alliance members, is to promote the transition to a “net zero” economy. However, the group’s proposed “re-imagining” of international financial institutions, according to their recently published “progress report,” would also move to merge these institutions with the private-banking interests that compose the alliance; create a new system of “global financial governance”; and erode national sovereignty among developing countries by forcing them to establish business environments deemed “friendly” to the interests of alliance members. In other words, the powerful banking interests that compose this group are pushing to recreate the entire global financial system for their benefit under the guise of promoting sustainability.
This alliance, called the Glasgow Financial Alliance for Net Zero (GFANZ), was launched in April by John Kerry, U.S. Special Presidential Envoy for Climate Change; Janet Yellen, U.S. Secretary of the Treasury and former chair of the Federal Reserve; and Mark Carney, U.N. Special Envoy for Climate Action and Finance and former chair of the Bank of England and Bank of Canada. Carney, who is also the U.K. prime minister’s Finance Advisor for the COP26 conference, currently co-chairs the alliance with U.S. billionaire and former mayor of New York City, Michael Bloomberg."
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". . . Today, MDBs are used as “instruments of power” that utilize debt to force developing nations to implement policies that benefit foreign interests rather than their own national interests. If GFANZ gets its way, the MDBs of tomorrow will be used to essentially eliminate national sovereignty, privatize the “natural assets” (e.g., ecosystems, ecological processes) of the developing world, and force increasingly technocratic policies designed by global governance institutions and think tanks on ever more disenfranchised populations.
Though GFANZ has cloaked itself in lofty rhetoric of “saving the planet,” its plans ultimately amount to a corporate-led coup that will make the global financial system even more corrupt and predatory and further reduce the sovereignty of national governments in the developing world."
You don't think that actually transforming the entire planet to net zero CO2 emissions might need to involve the world's financiers?
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