Internet Comments Posted By Hasan Raised Concerns

[JenyEliza]

Apparently, Mr. Hassan posted these comments online approximately 6 months ago. Certainly these comments are of concern (to me), especially in light of today's events, and they should have been of concern to his chain of command (if they were aware of them).

According to the article, these comments were brought to the attention of some un-named "authorities", but apparently no action was taken. Not sure what "action" could have been taken--absent inappropriate behavior/actions on Hassan's part at that point.

Having an unpopular geo-political view isn't a crime when one is a civilian--but having said view while being an active (and set to be deployed) member of the US military might be a separate issue that needs to be addressed. Somehow we need to find a way to stop these kinds of fraggings before more of them happen. This one is not the first carried out by a Moslem on active duty in the US military.

Internet Comments Posted By Hasan Raised Concerns - KTXL

By: Matthew Keys FOX40 News
The following are Internet comments reportedly made by Fort Hood gunman Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, which caught the eye of authorities and raised concerns as early as six months ago:

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"There was a grenade thrown amongs [sic] a group of American soldiers. One of the soldiers, feeling that it was to late for everyone to flee jumped on the grave with the intention of saving his comrades. Indeed he saved them. He inentionally [sic] took his life (suicide) for a noble cause i.e. saving the lives of his soldier. To say that this soldier committed suicide is inappropriate. Its more appropriate to say he is a brave hero that sacrificed his life for a more noble cause. Scholars have paralled [sic] this to suicide bombers whose intention, by sacrificing their lives, is to help save Muslims by killing enemy soldiers. If one suicide bomber can kill 100 enemy soldiers because they were caught off guard that would be considered a strategic victory. Their intention is not to die because of some despair. The same can be said for the Kamikazees in Japan. They died (via crashing their planes into ships) to kill the enemies for the homeland. You can call them crazy i you want but their act was not one of suicide that is despised by Islam. So the scholars main point is that "IT SEEMS AS THOUGH YOUR INTENTION IS THE MAIN ISSUE" and Allah (SWT) knows best."

- Nidal Hasan's online comment

Anyone care to share their thoughts on this?

 

[Emma]

Their intention is not to die because of some despair.

That was the key point he was making.

 

[Luissa]

I think the guy had a problem with war, don't think he did this for islam.

 

[JW Frogen]

Indeed, Allah has no problem with war.

 

[JenyEliza]

I'm pretty sure the guy has several problems....war being one of them, Islam being another....and an inability to control his base urge to mass murder being another...the list of his problems is endless.

Now (with any luck) his biggest problem is going to be the Firing Squad.

 

[Emma]

I think the guy had a problem with war, don't think he did this for islam.

I don't think his post in the OP is relevant, either (if it was indeed Hasan who wrote this). Without knowing the context, topic or what author he is referencing, it's pretty much worthless regarding what he did today.

I tried to google, but all I got were news reports on the shootings. One article (ABC?) said he was equating our soldiers with suicide bombers. I don't think he was (in the way they implied) except to point out that the soldiers, bombers, and pilots all died intentionally for what they saw as a greater cause, not because they were what we typically consider "suicidal". As he's a psychiatrist, it makes sense he'd see it that way. Perhaps he was arguing against calling them suicide bombers because of that and because Islam forbids suicide. JMO.

 

[strollingbones]

*sits back and watches the sane try to figure out the motiviates of the insane*

 

[Fatality]

I think the guy had a problem with war, don't think he did this for islam.

he had no problem with war, he purposefully and decidedly killed his enemies, he is an agent of war.

 

[JenyEliza]

After doing a bit more reading about this fellow, I suspect he had less of a problem with war in general, than war against Moslems...

Suspect reportedly upset about deployment

Hasan is a devout Muslim born in Arlington, Va., to Palestinian parents from the West Bank,

Hasan was promoted to major in July 2008, despite what military officials familiar with his confidential service record said was a poor performance evaluation, and was then told this year to report to Texas for duty. The call to serve in Iraq followed and, according to U.S. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison — based on a briefing she received about the killings — Hasan "appeared to be upset about that."

In light of Thursday's events, Hutchison said, "There is a lot of investigation going on into his background and what he was doing that was not known before."

According to The Associated Press, Hasan had drawn law enforcement attention about six months ago with troubling Internet postings discussing suicide bombings and other threats.

Col. Terry Lee, who says he worked with Hasan, told Fox that Hasan had turned against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

"He said maybe the Muslims should stand up and fight against the aggressor; at first we thought he was talking about how Muslims should stand up and help the armed forces in Iraq and in Afghanistan, but apparently that wasn't the case," Lee said. "He would make comments to other individuals about how we should not be in the war in the first place."

"He was hoping that President Obama would pull troops out," Lee said. "When things weren't going that way, he became more agitated, more frustrated with the conflicts over there."

I suspect in the coming days we will learn (albeit the MSM will be quite resistant) that Hassan's motive was religious in nature, rather than his being some kind of conscientious objector.

IOW, for Hassan, it was all about Big Mo---he fragged American soliders and civilians, on an American Army Base, all for Big Mo.

Disgusting.

 

[JenyEliza]

I think the guy had a problem with war, don't think he did this for islam.

he had no problem with war, he purposefully and decidedly killed his enemies, he is an agent of war.

Precisely!

Suspect reportedly upset about deployment

Col. Terry Lee, who says he worked with Hasan, told Fox that Hasan had turned against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

"He said maybe the Muslims should stand up and fight against the aggressor; at first we thought he was talking about how Muslims should stand up and help the armed forces in Iraq and in Afghanistan, but apparently that wasn't the case," Lee said. "He would make comments to other individuals about how we should not be in the war in the first place."

But leave it to the libbie kool-aid drinkers to be serving up red kool-aid.

 

[JenyEliza]

*sits back and watches the sane try to figure out the motiviates of the insane*

Yeah, point taken!

 

[Emma]

If that were the case, it would seem he'd serve the cause better if he'd been deployed. Or in a number of other ways as he was an officer. But who knows. I guess we'll find out soon enough as they've seized his computer and other stuff.

 

[strollingbones]

internet thoughts? so now we will report them? many times you vent on the net things you would not other places...and you play the devil's advocate...in war is the object not to destroy the enemy....perhaps the highest and best useage policy is shocking in war...but its still there...he is musing about how one man can kill the larger number of his enemy. how one man's work is valor while another man's work is cowardness and the cultural perceiption of both.

 

[JenyEliza]

internet thoughts? so now we will report them? many times you vent on the net things you would not other places...and you play the devil's advocate...in war is the object not to destroy the enemy....perhaps the highest and best useage policy is shocking in war...but its still there...he is musing about how one man can kill the larger number of his enemy. how one man's work is valor while another man's work is cowardness and the cultural perceiption of both.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/curre...ted-by-hasan-raised-concerns.html#post1687255

*sits back and watches the sane try to figure out the motiviates of the insane*

 

[strollingbones]

the comments are on what he wrote....that is all....and the suggestion that ideas vented on the net should be given how much merit...

a group of friends and i plotted for almost a year....on the perfect way to rob an brink's car...hey we all have odd hobbies...should we have been reported?

 

[JenyEliza]

the comments are on what he wrote....that is all....and the suggestion that ideas vented on the net should be given how much merit...

a group of friends and i plotted for almost a year....on the perfect way to rob an brink's car...hey we all have odd hobbies...should we have been reported?

Are you serious? Did you really plot a Brinks heist?

Were your plans serious?

If they were real plans, hell yes you should have been reported.

 

[chanel]

You should not have been reported bones, but if you had carried it out, we would have the right to use your intentions against you in court AND in the court of public opinion. This guy posted jihadist crap, and now there are people saying "well it was just an expression of thoughts" HE KILLED 12 PEOPLE! His thoughts became actions and we have every right to be angry.

If true, it's relevant. Very relevant.

 

[JenyEliza]

More credence to my thoughts on Hassan:

Army post shooting rampage leaves 13 dead, 30 hurt

Authorities have not ruled out that Hasan was acting on behalf of some unidentified radical group, the official said. He would not say whether any evidence had come to light to support that theory.

Normally "authorities" rather quickly rush to the conclusion that a shooting or other such suspect event is *not* related to any radical group and/or is not connected to Islamic terrorism. *Rarely* will you see comments like that above....

And.....also from the same article.

"Overseas you are ready for it. But here you can't even defend yourself."

And make no mistake about it....Hassan *knew this*, which is why he chose to cut loose at Ft. Hood *before* they sent his butt overseas and everyone would be armed and ready to defend themselves.

 

[JenyEliza]

You should not have been reported bones, but if you had carried it out, we would have the right to use your intentions against you in court AND in the court of public opinion. This guy posted jihadist crap, and now there are people saying "well it was just an expression of thoughts" HE KILLED 12 PEOPLE! His thoughts became actions and we have every right to be angry.

If true, it's relevant. Very relevant.

Actually, he killed 13. One died overnight.

 

[chanel]

So sad.