In Your Opinion, What Would Create the Most Jobs?

[uscitizen]

Why does the right keep saying that?

Every time I see it, I stop and try to explain why this is nonsense.

The US government DOES NOT drill for oil. If they did, Republicans would go absolutely bonkers with "Marxist/Socialist/Fascist take over".

The US Government "LEASES" land to oil companies. But that oil belongs to THEM, NOT US.

If they find oil, it goes on the open market. IT DOES NOT COME HERE unless we pay competitive prices for it.

If the price starts to fall, oil companies HOLD BACK on the oil until the price goes back up.

That is the way it works.

NOW, CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL MY WHY THEY BELIEVE "DRILL, BABY, DRILL" WOULD WORK?

the right says that because the oil companies tell them to.
The oil companies now have plenty of leases to keep them busy drilling if they choose to drill.
The oil companies just want more leases to sit on till the price goes up.
And the republican parrots are working for big oil.
They just do not realize it.

actually most of your pet programs are paid for by taxes on oil.....until the government can figure out what to tax instead there is no incentive for the government to push something else.....

Bollocks, oil taxes mostly pays for highway construction and maintenance.

Most pet projects are paid for by selling treasury bonds.

 

[Article 15]

Another world war.

 

[boedicca]

Got that right off of the RNC webpage?

Nope. It wrote it myself.

I don't need anyone to tell me what to think or write. Too bad the same can't be said for you.

 

[RodISHI]

What would create more jobs?

I'm assuming the question concerns Private Sector (Real) Jobs.

- Simplify and cut taxes (flat, no deductions)
- Taxes paid once per year at the end of October (right before major elections in the years they occur)
- Balanced budget amendment
- Automatic sunset provisions in federal programs
- Immediately cut federal spending 20%
- Feds forbidden to place unfunded mandates on states
- No Public Employee unions
- Public employees and officials under the same Social Security, 401K, and medical care programs foisted on the private sector (no special deals or pensions)
- Cost of living increases for Social Security limited to CPI, not wage inflation
- Phase in the Chilean Model for retirement savings
- Starting Public Employee compensation pegged at 25% below private sector for equivalent jobs in the same local area, capped at 100%. Public employee raises not to exceed CPI in any given year. During official recessions, no raises. Vacation balances capped at 4 or 5 weeks accrual (like many private sector companies) - make it use it or lose it. Enact an excessive absenteeism policy to make it easier to fire public employee slackers. We also need some way to limit overtime - haven't worked that out yet.

I can come up with more, but this is a good start.

Got that right off of the RNC webpage?

Nope. It wrote it myself.

I don't need anyone to tell me what to think or write. Too bad the same can't be said for you.

I'd say you did a good job of listing those items too. I think 25% below the private sector is too much though. I would say more like 15% to 17% of the norm.

Universities throughout the country are breaking states with their payrolls and retirement funds. California's budget pays out more to University retirement funds than any of their social programs in the state.

When the tax payer dollars are putting out a half a billion dollars a year to study the safety of one drug for example Botox for drug companies can profit billions every year so that corporates, university retirement and state personal retirement funds that are vested in these drug companies can improve their retirement fund balances that were paid into initially with tax payer dollars, it is a tragically skewed system.

 

[Mr Natural]

Another world war.

We've been at war now for 8 or 9 years. Shouldn't the "War Dividend" be kicking in by now?

 

[rdean]

We currently have 70,000 bridges that are considered unsafe. Our electrical grid is one of the oldest in the world.

"One in seven bridges in the United States is functionally obsolete."
Bridge Collapse in Minnesota: Many Dead, Tens Injured, more Missing in Minneapolis Disaster

1994 La Cienaga Bridge

1989 Cypress Street

Little progress since last year’s bridge collapse
One year after deadly Minneapolis accident, other spans still at risk
No rush to fix bridges since collapse - Life- msnbc.com

File:I35W Collapse - Day 4 - Operations & Scene (95).jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Can anyone say they feel safe driving over America's old bridges after seeing pictures like this?

cypress collapsed during an earthquake....it has since been rerouted and rebuilt .....

la cienaga collapsed in the northridge earthquake ...it was rebuilt in less than a year...

I guess there is a point in there somewhere. And oddly enough, you didn't mention the "Minnesota" bridge, was that an "earthquake"? The truth is that earthquakes happen all the time. Bridges are designed and built to withstand earthquakes, unless they are "old", then, not so much.

 

[edthecynic]

What I would do to stimulate the economy and create AMERICAN jobs is to REPLACE each of Bush's stupid American job killing tax cuts when they expire, DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR, with a cut in the job killing payroll taxes.

This would give the American wage earner an immediate increase in take home pay to spend on a regular basis without costing the employer a single penny stimulating demand, and the businesses that employ Americans would have an immediate cut in the cost of labor without downsizing or outsourcing a single American job as well as saving the cost of compliance.

The businesses that employ the most AMERICANS will get the most benefit from the tax cuts, exactly the group of people you would want to benefit most from tax cuts.

Bush's redistribution of wealth tax cuts took the Social Security Tax SURPLUS he inherited, collected at SS Payroll Tax Rates, 100% from wage earners making less than $100,000 and businesses that employ Americans, and redistributed most of it to incomes over $100,000 and Capital Gains Tycoons who are exempt from SS Payroll Taxes by using Income Tax Rates for the redistribution of the payroll tax surplus.
By simply saying his tax cuts were "across the board" Bush was able to deceive the gullible into believing it was fair to use the Income Tax rates to redistribute money collected at Payroll Tax rates.

As a result Tycoons who increased profits by outsourcing American jobs for cheaper foreign labor, were rewarded by Bush with a tax cut on that profit gained at the expense of American jobs. Not only that, but to further this redistribution of wealth and outsourcing of American jobs, Bush and the GOP congress raised the threshold on paying SS payroll taxes, making the cost of employing American wage earners even higher to those businesses that employ Americans.

Bush's taxes were given an expiration date so other tax cuts could be tried and compared if these cuts didn't preform as predicted. If you remember they were called "Growth and Job Creating" tax cuts. I say take advantage of that option and try the dollar for dollar replacement tax substitution for comparison.

I predict my dollar for dollar tax substitution will create more growth and American jobs over the same time scale as Bush's.

 

[rdean]

Why does the right keep saying that?

Every time I see it, I stop and try to explain why this is nonsense.

The US government DOES NOT drill for oil. If they did, Republicans would go absolutely bonkers with "Marxist/Socialist/Fascist take over".

The US Government "LEASES" land to oil companies. But that oil belongs to THEM, NOT US.

If they find oil, it goes on the open market. IT DOES NOT COME HERE unless we pay competitive prices for it.

If the price starts to fall, oil companies HOLD BACK on the oil until the price goes back up.

That is the way it works.

NOW, CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL MY WHY THEY BELIEVE "DRILL, BABY, DRILL" WOULD WORK?

the right says that because the oil companies tell them to.
The oil companies now have plenty of leases to keep them busy drilling if they choose to drill.
The oil companies just want more leases to sit on till the price goes up.
And the republican parrots are working for big oil.
They just do not realize it.

Do you think it might be better for oil companies "to sit on" leases until the price [of the leases?] goes down?

I have new Toyota you should look at. Wonderful investment! I expect the price to go down!!!

Unless other countries make more cars. Then your "economic theory" is just as useful as you.

 

[uscitizen]

Got that right off of the RNC webpage?

Nope. It wrote it myself.

I don't need anyone to tell me what to think or write. Too bad the same can't be said for you.

I watch nor listen to any political pundits.

 

[RodISHI]

What I would do to stimulate the economy and create AMERICAN jobs is to REPLACE each of Bush's stupid American job killing tax cuts when they expire, DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR, with a cut in the job killing payroll taxes.

This would give the American wage earner an immediate increase in take home pay to spend on a regular basis without costing the employer a single penny stimulating demand, and the businesses that employ Americans would have an immediate cut in the cost of labor without downsizing or outsourcing a single American job as well as saving the cost of compliance.

The businesses that employ the most AMERICANS will get the most benefit from the tax cuts, exactly the group of people you would want to benefit most from tax cuts.

Bush's redistribution of wealth tax cuts took the Social Security Tax SURPLUS he inherited, collected at SS Payroll Tax Rates, 100% from wage earners making less than $100,000 and businesses that employ Americans, and redistributed most of it to incomes over $100,000 and Capital Gains Tycoons who are exempt from SS Payroll Taxes by using Income Tax Rates for the redistribution of the payroll tax surplus.
By simply saying his tax cuts were "across the board" Bush was able to deceive the gullible into believing it was fair to use the Income Tax rates to redistribute money collected at Payroll Tax rates.

As a result Tycoons who increased profits by outsourcing American jobs for cheaper foreign labor, were rewarded by Bush with a tax cut on that profit gained at the expense of American jobs. Not only that, but to further this redistribution of wealth and outsourcing of American jobs, Bush and the GOP congress raised the threshold on paying SS payroll taxes, making the cost of employing American wage earners even higher to those businesses that employ Americans.

Bush's taxes were given an expiration date so other tax cuts could be tried and compared if these cuts didn't preform as predicted. If you remember they were called "Growth and Job Creating" tax cuts. I say take advantage of that option and try the dollar for dollar replacement tax substitution for comparison.

I predict my dollar for dollar tax substitution will create more growth and American jobs over the same time scale as Bush's.

Vulnerable Democrats ask Congress, Obama to extend Bush tax cuts

You will need to address the Democrat congress on those tax cuts to the rich. They have after all held the purse strings for going on five years now.

 

[boedicca]

I watch nor listen to any political pundits.

Got it - you watch political pundits but don't pay attention.

That means you just absorb the subliminal mind control messages and memes.

 

[Nosmo King]

Doesn't it make sense to lower corporate taxes? You know, entice businesses to want to do business here... The more people working the more income tax the Government will collect.

The corporations might be pleased to headquarter here. But they take the means of production overseas. Where's the American jobs then?

Build infrastructure. Water treatment plants. Waste water treatment plants. And the piping to distribute potable water and collect sewage.

Build highways which aid commerce. Rebuild crumbling bridges and via ducts.

These projects benefit everyone while creating jobs in design and over sight, construction, materials and distribution, and equipment sales and manufacture.

It's a win-win-win.

 

[edthecynic]

What I would do to stimulate the economy and create AMERICAN jobs is to REPLACE each of Bush's stupid American job killing tax cuts when they expire, DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR, with a cut in the job killing payroll taxes.

This would give the American wage earner an immediate increase in take home pay to spend on a regular basis without costing the employer a single penny stimulating demand, and the businesses that employ Americans would have an immediate cut in the cost of labor without downsizing or outsourcing a single American job as well as saving the cost of compliance.

The businesses that employ the most AMERICANS will get the most benefit from the tax cuts, exactly the group of people you would want to benefit most from tax cuts.

Bush's redistribution of wealth tax cuts took the Social Security Tax SURPLUS he inherited, collected at SS Payroll Tax Rates, 100% from wage earners making less than $100,000 and businesses that employ Americans, and redistributed most of it to incomes over $100,000 and Capital Gains Tycoons who are exempt from SS Payroll Taxes by using Income Tax Rates for the redistribution of the payroll tax surplus.
By simply saying his tax cuts were "across the board" Bush was able to deceive the gullible into believing it was fair to use the Income Tax rates to redistribute money collected at Payroll Tax rates.

As a result Tycoons who increased profits by outsourcing American jobs for cheaper foreign labor, were rewarded by Bush with a tax cut on that profit gained at the expense of American jobs. Not only that, but to further this redistribution of wealth and outsourcing of American jobs, Bush and the GOP congress raised the threshold on paying SS payroll taxes, making the cost of employing American wage earners even higher to those businesses that employ Americans.

Bush's taxes were given an expiration date so other tax cuts could be tried and compared if these cuts didn't preform as predicted. If you remember they were called "Growth and Job Creating" tax cuts. I say take advantage of that option and try the dollar for dollar replacement tax substitution for comparison.

I predict my dollar for dollar tax substitution will create more growth and American jobs over the same time scale as Bush's.

Vulnerable Democrats ask Congress, Obama to extend Bush tax cuts

You will need to address the Democrat congress on those tax cuts to the rich. They have after all held the purse strings for going on five years now.

Unfortunately no one in either party has offered this tax plan so I have no one to vote for which is one of many reasons why I am a lifelong registered independent who votes third Party or write-in.

So if you want to discuss tax cuts, lets discuss my Cynical tax cut please.

 

[boedicca]

Uh...infrastructure without a healthy private sector is just a bunch of roads to nowhere.

Just sayin'.

 

[Truthmatters]

Uh...infrastructure without a healthy private sector is just a bunch of roads to nowhere.

Just sayin'.

You are planning the failure of the US?

When you build infrastructure it allows business to use it for decades to come.

When you dont build infrastructure businesses can not opperate to their best outcome.

 

[Mr Natural]

Doesn't it make sense to lower corporate taxes? You know, entice businesses to want to do business here... The more people working the more income tax the Government will collect.

The corporations might be pleased to headquarter here. But they take the means of production overseas. Where's the American jobs then?

Build infrastructure. Water treatment plants. Waste water treatment plants. And the piping to distribute potable water and collect sewage.

Build highways which aid commerce. Rebuild crumbling bridges and via ducts.

These projects benefit everyone while creating jobs in design and over sight, construction, materials and distribution, and equipment sales and manufacture.

It's a win-win-win.

But what about all those overpaid American workers with their outlandish demands?

Aren't they just going to suck the life-blood out of the poor, put upon corporations that will be forced to hire them?

 

[rdean]

Uh...infrastructure without a healthy private sector is just a bunch of roads to nowhere.

Just sayin'.

With no infrastructure, you won't have either.

Just sayin'.

 

[boedicca]

It's a matter of what comes first, bub.

Burdening the private sector with heavy taxation in order to build the infrastructure is backasswards.

 

[uscitizen]

Doesn't it make sense to lower corporate taxes? You know, entice businesses to want to do business here... The more people working the more income tax the Government will collect.

The corporations might be pleased to headquarter here. But they take the means of production overseas. Where's the American jobs then?

Build infrastructure. Water treatment plants. Waste water treatment plants. And the piping to distribute potable water and collect sewage.

Build highways which aid commerce. Rebuild crumbling bridges and via ducts.

These projects benefit everyone while creating jobs in design and over sight, construction, materials and distribution, and equipment sales and manufacture.

It's a win-win-win.

In central Red KY the Germans own both the public water company and electric company.
and public tax dollars are going for a dam to give the german owned water company more water to sell to us.

 

[Mr. H.]

Drill baby drill.

that would create few jobs.

Conserve, conserve, conserve. Save our oil for later when it is $200/bbl.

1.2 million jobs, and billions in revenues/royalties for the U.S. Treasury.