In terms of presidential greatness, it's Trump by a wide margin. Clinton/Biden/0bama are dead last.

[Mashmont]

????????


Been in since 1985.

Done Great under EVERY Potus, (Bush Years)
Trump is nothing special dude.

Really. You make 16% every year?

I ALWAYS have data to shoot down your claims.



NFL situation.

1). If team A takes an early lead, and never gives up the lead, and wins by 50, in the Championship Game (Super Bowl) against Team C.

2). If Team B, in the same season, plays a back and forth game with Team C, In the Conference Championship, with lead changes 11 times and wins by 1 in the last second with a game winning FG.


Which team was 'probably' more dominant?

I'll take the team that takes the most leads AND scores the most points. Translated to the stock market, that would be President Trump.

 

[jacksonlamb]

Under which President since 1950 has the Stock Market done best?
Using the S&P 500 as the standard measure (the index most economists use for long‑term presidential comparisons), the average annualized returns break down like this:

~15% annual S&P 500 return The strongest sustained 8‑year market performance since WWII.Key factors often cited by economists: tech boom, low inflation, deficit reduction, and expanding globalization.
~13.8% annual return This period includes the recovery from the Great Recession and the longest bull market in U.S. history up to that point.
~13.6% annual return Post‑war expansion, infrastructure investment, and stable inflation.

www.macrosights.com/presidents-vs-snp500?utm_source=copilot.com

 

[Winco]

Really. You make 16% every year?

Do you need help with these FACTUAL math charts?

Where are you getting this 16% per year claim?
Term 1 of trump
Term 1 and 2 of Obama

Here are some FACTS.

Using the Dow Jones Industrial Average closing levels on or very near each inauguration date, here are the approximate total gains for each presidential term:

Presidential Term	Dow at Start	Dow at End	Total Gain
Barack Obama Term 1 (2009–2013)	~7,949	~13,649	+72%
Barack Obama Term 2 (2013–2017)	~13,649	~19,827	+45%
Donald Trump Term 1 (2017–2021)	~19,827	~31,188	+57%
Joe Biden Term 1 (2021–2025)	~31,188	~44,544	+43%
Donald Trump Term 2 (Jan. 2025–June 2026, to date)	~44,544	~51,671	+16%

C'mon Mashmont, you do understand this 16% on trumps 2nd term is over 17 months. Less than 12% annually. Still nice, but it is NO OBAMA Market. OUCH. BTW, Obama at 72% is, here's the math for you....( 72/4) = 18% per years. Ouch, FACTS hurt your claim.

 

[Slyhunter]

Under which President since 1950 has the Stock Market done best?
Using the S&P 500 as the standard measure (the index most economists use for long‑term presidential comparisons), the average annualized returns break down like this:

~15% annual S&P 500 return The strongest sustained 8‑year market performance since WWII.Key factors often cited by economists: tech boom, low inflation, deficit reduction, and expanding globalization.
~13.8% annual return This period includes the recovery from the Great Recession and the longest bull market in U.S. history up to that point.
~13.6% annual return Post‑war expansion, infrastructure investment, and stable inflation.

www.macrosights.com/presidents-vs-snp500?utm_source=copilot.com

low inflation? since when?

 

[jacksonlamb]

low inflation? since when?

Mashmont was lying again, so I corrected him again.

I remembered when you chose violence, then you remembered your were just this tall and turned and ran. Smart choice.

 

[Care4all]

13 killed? Any idea how many Americans died in FDR's war? 416,000. Yet you leftwingers call him a hero. I would say Trump now is officially the greatest wartime president of all time. This is either his eighth or ninth victory, though it was the biggest.

Seek mental health help! ASAP!

 

[Mac1958]

Done Great under EVERY Potus, (Bush Years)
Trump is nothing special dude.

After all the chaos (which they somehow magically "don't see"), they're reduced to pointing to the stock market. Which also hit highs under Clinton, Dubya, Obama and Biden. Which is being COMPLETELY buoyed by the AI buildout (and ANY market analysis will prove that, in Normal World).

A few too many of these people are, and I sincerely don't like using this word, simply stupid.

 

[Mashmont]

After all the chaos (which they somehow magically "don't see"), they're reduced to pointing to the stock market. Which also hit highs under Clinton, Dubya, Obama and Biden. Which is being COMPLETELY buoyed by the AI buildout (and ANY market analysis will prove that, in Normal World).

A few too many of these people are, and I sincerely don't like using this word, simply stupid.

As if tech stocks shouldn’t count because you don’t like them.

 

[Winco]

As if tech stocks shouldn’t count because you don’t like them.

Oh I love the tech stocks.

But remember, you made every excuse known to man to avoid giving credit to Obama and Biden.

Always an excuse for their successes,

AND

Always an excuse for trumps failures.

 

[jacksonlamb]

Obama and Biden did better with the stock market than Trump.

Clinton did better than everybody.

 

[Mashmont]

Oh I love the tech stocks.

But remember, you made every excuse known to man to avoid giving credit to Obama and Biden.

Always an excuse for their successes,

AND

Always an excuse for trumps failures.

I’ll ask again. What specifically did Biden do to grow wealth? You don’t know, and neither does he.

It’s comical that Mac would pretend AI doesn’t count. Now that oil is stabilized, the Trump market is exploding. Just like he said it would. Now well over 52,000

 

[Mashmont]

Obama and Biden did better with the stock market than Trump.

Clinton did better than everybody.

The GOP Congresses did well, you mean. Clinton stood in the way.

 

[jacksonlamb]

The GOP Congresses did well, you mean. Clinton stood in the way.

He led the way, including the blind GOP.